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« Reply #525 on: September 20, 2014, 01:56:39 am »
Name of the person causing trouble: 71st_Pte_Slif
Nature of their offense: Intnetional Teamkill at spawn
Time and date of their offense: 9/19/14 - 7:51 PM EST
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question.: Witness
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« Reply #526 on: September 20, 2014, 03:27:39 am »
Name of the person causing trouble: 71st_Pte_Slif
Nature of their offense: Intnetional Teamkill at spawn
Time and date of their offense: 9/19/14 - 7:51 PM EST
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question.: Witness
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!):
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Banned. Thanks for the report.

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« Reply #527 on: September 20, 2014, 07:46:26 pm »
Unban request
Name under which you were banned: I_Dislike_Mexicans_Alot
What was happening when you got banned: I said there were no good white people to mow my lawn, also just groupfighting like normal when I was banned without any warning whatsoever.
Time and Date: Sometime last weekend 9/13/14-9/14/14 I think
Timezone: Eastern timezone
User Identification Number: 466855
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« Reply #528 on: September 20, 2014, 08:25:49 pm »
Unban request
Name under which you were banned: I_Dislike_Mexicans_Alot
What was happening when you got banned: I said there were no good white people to mow my lawn, also just groupfighting like normal when I was banned without any warning whatsoever.
Time and Date: Sometime last weekend 9/13/14-9/14/14 I think
Timezone: Eastern timezone
User Identification Number: 466855

You were being racist, and that wasn't the only reason.

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« Reply #529 on: September 20, 2014, 08:33:47 pm »
I'm Mexican too  :(

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« Reply #530 on: September 20, 2014, 08:39:04 pm »
You were being racist, and that wasn't the only reason.
I don't see who I was being racist too  :-\ and I'd like to hear these "other" reasons.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2014, 08:41:58 pm by Puppytron »

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« Reply #531 on: September 20, 2014, 10:48:20 pm »
I'm Mexican too  :(

Being of the same ethnicity you're insulting doesn't make it any better.

You were being racist, and that wasn't the only reason.
I don't see who I was being racist too  :-\ and I'd like to hear these "other" reasons.

Even if there was no one else in the server of that ethnicity, it still doesn't make it OK.

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« Reply #532 on: September 20, 2014, 11:05:52 pm »
I'm Mexican too  :(

Being of the same ethnicity you're insulting doesn't make it any better.

You were being racist, and that wasn't the only reason.
I don't see who I was being racist too  :-\ and I'd like to hear these "other" reasons.

Even if there was no one else in the server of that ethnicity, it still doesn't make it OK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_contemporary_ethnic_groups It doesn't appear that "Mexican" is an ethnicity.

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« Reply #533 on: September 20, 2014, 11:07:30 pm »
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I'm Mexican too  :(

Being of the same ethnicity you're insulting doesn't make it any better.

You were being racist, and that wasn't the only reason.
I don't see who I was being racist too  :-\ and I'd like to hear these "other" reasons.

Even if there was no one else in the server of that ethnicity, it still doesn't make it OK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_contemporary_ethnic_groups It doesn't appear that "Mexican" is an ethnicity.
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Stop trying to be cute. Your responses to these critiques is not helping you in any way shape or form.

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« Reply #534 on: September 20, 2014, 11:17:36 pm »
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I'm Mexican too  :(

Being of the same ethnicity you're insulting doesn't make it any better.

You were being racist, and that wasn't the only reason.
I don't see who I was being racist too  :-\ and I'd like to hear these "other" reasons.

Even if there was no one else in the server of that ethnicity, it still doesn't make it OK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_contemporary_ethnic_groups It doesn't appear that "Mexican" is an ethnicity.
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Stop trying to be cute. Your responses to these critiques is not helping you in any way shape or form.

no, he's a funny guy d00d.

Does nationality work better for you?

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« Reply #535 on: September 20, 2014, 11:21:04 pm »
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I'm Mexican too  :(

Being of the same ethnicity you're insulting doesn't make it any better.

You were being racist, and that wasn't the only reason.
I don't see who I was being racist too  :-\ and I'd like to hear these "other" reasons.

Even if there was no one else in the server of that ethnicity, it still doesn't make it OK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_contemporary_ethnic_groups It doesn't appear that "Mexican" is an ethnicity.
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Stop trying to be cute. Your responses to these critiques is not helping you in any way shape or form.
These "critiques" are blatantly wrong and the fact remains that I was not racist in anyway shape or form. It's a serious stretch to turn disliking a nationality into an ignorant hate of an entire ethnicity. If I came into came into the server as I_Dislike_Canadians_Alot does it mean I hate an entire ethnic group? No. Nor would I get banned for having that name.
     I'm also trying to figure out how saying that "There are no good white people to mow my lawn" is racist, there simply weren't any good white people to mow my lawn and at the moment I said that I got perma banned without any warning or explanation. It's like going into a cooking club, saying that you'd like to make a real nice creamy creampie and getting kicked out for an innappropriate sexual reference, only reason you'd get kicked out is because someone has their mind in the gutter. Zzehth clearly thought that what I said was obviously meant to offend him, which it was not and I'm sorry if he took it the wrong way.

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« Reply #536 on: September 20, 2014, 11:35:31 pm »
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I'm Mexican too  :(

Being of the same ethnicity you're insulting doesn't make it any better.

You were being racist, and that wasn't the only reason.
I don't see who I was being racist too  :-\ and I'd like to hear these "other" reasons.

Even if there was no one else in the server of that ethnicity, it still doesn't make it OK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_contemporary_ethnic_groups It doesn't appear that "Mexican" is an ethnicity.
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Stop trying to be cute. Your responses to these critiques is not helping you in any way shape or form.
These "critiques" are blatantly wrong and the fact remains that I was not racist in anyway shape or form. It's a serious stretch to turn disliking a nationality into an ignorant hate of an entire ethnicity. If I came into came into the server as I_Dislike_Canadians_Alot does it mean I hate an entire ethnic group? No. Nor would I get banned for having that name.
     I'm also trying to figure out how saying that "There are no good white people to mow my lawn" is racist, there simply weren't any good white people to mow my lawn and at the moment I said that I got perma banned without any warning or explanation. It's like going into a cooking club, saying that you'd like to make a real nice creamy creampie and getting kicked out for an innappropriate sexual reference, only reason you'd get kicked out is because someone has their mind in the gutter. Zzehth clearly thought that what I said was obviously meant to offend him, which it was not and I'm sorry if he took it the wrong way.

Puppy, you arguing with every moderator that replies to your appeal does not help your case. You arguing with everyone does NOT make anyone want to help you, or believe you. There is really no point in starting a pissing contest in the thread. That being said not every permanent ban is permanent, for now however, it will remain so. Post an unban request again in 4 days and I will unban you personally. Now enough with the arguing back and forth.

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« Reply #537 on: September 20, 2014, 11:38:52 pm »
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I'm Mexican too  :(

Being of the same ethnicity you're insulting doesn't make it any better.

You were being racist, and that wasn't the only reason.
I don't see who I was being racist too  :-\ and I'd like to hear these "other" reasons.

Even if there was no one else in the server of that ethnicity, it still doesn't make it OK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_contemporary_ethnic_groups It doesn't appear that "Mexican" is an ethnicity.
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Stop trying to be cute. Your responses to these critiques is not helping you in any way shape or form.
These "critiques" are blatantly wrong and the fact remains that I was not racist in anyway shape or form. It's a serious stretch to turn disliking a nationality into an ignorant hate of an entire ethnicity. If I came into came into the server as I_Dislike_Canadians_Alot does it mean I hate an entire ethnic group? No. Nor would I get banned for having that name.
     I'm also trying to figure out how saying that "There are no good white people to mow my lawn" is racist, there simply weren't any good white people to mow my lawn and at the moment I said that I got perma banned without any warning or explanation. It's like going into a cooking club, saying that you'd like to make a real nice creamy creampie and getting kicked out for an innappropriate sexual reference, only reason you'd get kicked out is because someone has their mind in the gutter. Zzehth clearly thought that what I said was obviously meant to offend him, which it was not and I'm sorry if he took it the wrong way.

I'm still not the admin that banned you. My poor choice of words is irrelevant as I did correct myself. I'm not going to get into the petty bullshit of "I was just stating something you misunderstood me". In my mind, it is blatantly obvious what your intent was. We leave it up to admins to make their judgement and I do believe Zzehth made the right choice. /end pissing contest

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« Reply #538 on: September 21, 2014, 12:05:29 am »
Zzeth
"You were being racist, and that wasn't the only reason. "
What's the definition of a racist: having or showing the belief that a particular race is superior to another.
What is the definition of race? A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.There can be African, European, or Hispanic Mexicans- he was clearly not being a racist by any definition of the word. Also, saying "that wasn't the only reason." doesn't absolve you from providing any actual proof/argument, but nice try.

As far as thinking one nation is superior to the other? It's pretty damned obvious to the casual observer that Mexico isn't all that impressive.

Also, pretty insane to call people gringos and then ban someone permanently for saying they dislike Mexicans, that is of course assuming you're banning people for being nationalistic and not just looking for an excuse to ban people you don't like- but you wouldn't do that, would you?

Shine
"Being of the same ethnicity you're insulting doesn't make it any better."
Really? Then why don't you go into the ghetto and complain about how it's unacceptable for blacks to be self-hating and use the "n-word". There's a reason why a famous white guy who says "n*****" becomes a social pariah, but a black man who said the exact same thing would be ignored; if you are a devout Buddhist, any criticisms you levy against Buddhism (even if crude) will be understood as "one of us." So no, Shine, it actually does make a difference. 

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"Stop trying to be cute. Your responses to these critiques is not helping you in any way shape or form."
That's right Puppy! Stop trying to defend your position! The admins are infallible, they are beyond questioning, comrade! If you keep ons with these heresies we will be of throwings you in gulag!
By the way, "stop trying to be cute" isn't actually an argument as to why he is guilty of any crime.

Shine
"I'm still not the admin that banned you. My poor choice of words is irrelevant as I did correct myself. I'm not going to get into the petty bullshit of "I was just stating something you misunderstood me". In my mind, it is blatantly obvious what your intent was. We leave it up to admins to make their judgement and I do believe Zzehth made the right choice. /end pissing contest"

"My poor choice of words is irrelevant"- oh, so you can rescind any statement at anytime? In that case, I'm sure Puppy will just "correct" his original statement and you can unban him as soon as you read this- that is assuming that you don't have a double standard for admins.

"In my mind, it is blatantly obvious what your intent was." So if an admin can somehow construe what you said to be offensive by applying his own understanding of what you meant, which is impossible for said admin to know, they can ban you? Good to know you guys have such reasonable standards.

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« Reply #539 on: September 21, 2014, 12:06:58 am »
Oh my...
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