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Title: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on April 10, 2022, 03:41:51 pm
feel free to discuss
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on April 10, 2022, 03:45:32 pm
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Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Janne on April 10, 2022, 03:46:45 pm
why not ?
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on April 10, 2022, 03:47:58 pm
why not ?
Because this is something that can happen to anyone around us, would you not care if it happened to your parents or someone you liked and someone would be joking about it ?
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Nock on April 10, 2022, 03:49:24 pm
i think it depends how close you are to the person
if it was your deceased relative or friend, and know they would have been okay joking around with their death etc then i guess it's okay for their family and close friends but thats as far as it goes
but over randoms on the internet, it's just being edgy and cringe imo
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Janne on April 10, 2022, 03:50:40 pm
why not ?
Because this is something that can happen to anyone around us, would you not care if it happened to your parents or someone you liked and someone would be joking about it ?

it would be a cunt move but

a) why would i care about what any of u losers think or say
b) i wouldnt be talking about it on the forums

the only victim here is u morons and 99% of u never even talked to the guy

its funny how half of u racist mofos dont care about the actual harm you cause with actually living victims being hurt by your words.

point out how fucking performatively and pathetically u guys fake caring about someone u never even talk to and all heal breaks loose

funny !
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Vegi. on April 10, 2022, 03:51:10 pm
dw it's all accepted since I'm homophobic and racist  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Gibby Jr on April 10, 2022, 03:51:17 pm
Being respectful about someone’s death is the bare minimum you’d expect from a functional human being.

It is not ‘performative outrage’, as Janne seems to think,  to say that someone publicly making fun of a person’s death is a retard. Have some basic decency.
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Janne on April 10, 2022, 03:52:16 pm
Being respectful about someone’s death is the bare minimum you’d expect from a functional human being.

It is not ‘performative outrage’, as Janne seems to think,  to say that someone publicly making fun of a person’s death is a retard. Have some basic decency.
if u wanna show ur respect stfu and dont make it about yourself lol
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Gibby Jr on April 10, 2022, 03:54:10 pm
Being respectful about someone’s death is the bare minimum you’d expect from a functional human being.

It is not ‘performative outrage’, as Janne seems to think,  to say that someone publicly making fun of a person’s death is a retard. Have some basic decency.
if u wanna show ur respect stfu and dont make it about yourself lol

1) I didn’t even post a message about Jones, so what the fuck are you talking about
2) Someone posting a message of condolence and being respectful about someone’s death is not making something about yourself
3) Why are you mad that people are rightly calling you a moron for lacking common sense and decency?
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on April 10, 2022, 03:54:53 pm
why not ?
Because this is something that can happen to anyone around us, would you not care if it happened to your parents or someone you liked and someone would be joking about it ?

it would be a cunt move but

a) why would i care about what any of u losers think or say
b) i wouldnt be talking about it on the forums

the only victim here is u morons and 99% of u never even talked to the guy

its funny how half of u racist mofos dont care about the actual harm you cause with actually living victims being hurt by your words.

point out how fucking performatively and pathetically u guys fake caring about someone u never even talk to and all heal breaks loose

funny !
Why you think people try to "farm" social credits by wishing someone condolences it's just a normal thing to do and i don't think anyone here thought they would be "looking nice and kind" if they wish condolences lol..
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Barro112 on April 10, 2022, 03:55:31 pm
Being respectful about someone’s death is the bare minimum you’d expect from a functional human being.

It is not ‘performative outrage’, as Janne seems to think,  to say that someone publicly making fun of a person’s death is a retard. Have some basic decency.
if u wanna show ur respect stfu and dont make it about yourself lol
No one was making it about themselves by giving their condolences, only you were by being edgy and cringe and starting a braindead discussion.
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on April 10, 2022, 03:56:06 pm
Being respectful about someone’s death is the bare minimum you’d expect from a functional human being.

It is not ‘performative outrage’, as Janne seems to think,  to say that someone publicly making fun of a person’s death is a retard. Have some basic decency.
if u wanna show ur respect stfu and dont make it about yourself lol
No one was making it about themselves by giving their condolences, only you were by being edgy and cringe and starting a braindead discussion.
I agree at 100%
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Janne on April 10, 2022, 03:56:17 pm
Being respectful about someone’s death is the bare minimum you’d expect from a functional human being.

It is not ‘performative outrage’, as Janne seems to think,  to say that someone publicly making fun of a person’s death is a retard. Have some basic decency.
if u wanna show ur respect stfu and dont make it about yourself lol

1) I didn’t even post a message about Jones, so what the fuck are you talking about
2) Someone posting a message of condolence and being respectful about someone’s death is not making something about yourself
3) Why are you mad that people are rightly calling you a moron for lacking common sense and decency?
1) it was a general statement
2) ok
3) again i dont care about what u morons say. how am i the mad one did u read title for this threadd ?
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Janne on April 10, 2022, 03:56:48 pm
Being respectful about someone’s death is the bare minimum you’d expect from a functional human being.

It is not ‘performative outrage’, as Janne seems to think,  to say that someone publicly making fun of a person’s death is a retard. Have some basic decency.
if u wanna show ur respect stfu and dont make it about yourself lol
No one was making it about themselves by giving their condolences, only you were by being edgy and cringe and starting a braindead discussion.

cope
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on April 10, 2022, 03:57:58 pm
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Being respectful about someone’s death is the bare minimum you’d expect from a functional human being.

It is not ‘performative outrage’, as Janne seems to think,  to say that someone publicly making fun of a person’s death is a retard. Have some basic decency.
if u wanna show ur respect stfu and dont make it about yourself lol

1) I didn’t even post a message about Jones, so what the fuck are you talking about
2) Someone posting a message of condolence and being respectful about someone’s death is not making something about yourself
3) Why are you mad that people are rightly calling you a moron for lacking common sense and decency?
1) it was a general statement
2) ok
3) again i dont care about what u morons say. how am i the mad one did u read title for this threadd ?
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Well brother I'm not upset by what you did, I'm just shocked because as much as I can be an asshole to others on this game and that's why I'm not going to moralize to you because I'm not blameless myself, but to make fun of someone's suicide is something that's really fucked I don't know if you realize
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on April 10, 2022, 03:58:19 pm
Mainly just commenting so that I can see if it gets off the rails.

Regarding Jones, I barely interacted with him and didn't know him on a personal level like others. However someone passing away is always sad and its a shame for his family and friends.
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Janne on April 10, 2022, 04:01:42 pm
Spoiler
Being respectful about someone’s death is the bare minimum you’d expect from a functional human being.

It is not ‘performative outrage’, as Janne seems to think,  to say that someone publicly making fun of a person’s death is a retard. Have some basic decency.
if u wanna show ur respect stfu and dont make it about yourself lol

1) I didn’t even post a message about Jones, so what the fuck are you talking about
2) Someone posting a message of condolence and being respectful about someone’s death is not making something about yourself
3) Why are you mad that people are rightly calling you a moron for lacking common sense and decency?
1) it was a general statement
2) ok
3) again i dont care about what u morons say. how am i the mad one did u read title for this threadd ?
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Well brother I'm not upset by what you did, I'm just shocked because as much as I can be an asshole to others on this game and that's why I'm not going to moralize to you because I'm not blameless myself, but to make fun of someone's suicide is something that's really fucked I don't know if you realize

edgy for sure but pretty mild and harmless compared to a lot of hateful stuff perpetuated by certain people :-)
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Gibby Jr on April 10, 2022, 04:03:29 pm
Spoiler
Being respectful about someone’s death is the bare minimum you’d expect from a functional human being.

It is not ‘performative outrage’, as Janne seems to think,  to say that someone publicly making fun of a person’s death is a retard. Have some basic decency.
if u wanna show ur respect stfu and dont make it about yourself lol

1) I didn’t even post a message about Jones, so what the fuck are you talking about
2) Someone posting a message of condolence and being respectful about someone’s death is not making something about yourself
3) Why are you mad that people are rightly calling you a moron for lacking common sense and decency?
1) it was a general statement
2) ok
3) again i dont care about what u morons say. how am i the mad one did u read title for this threadd ?
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Well brother I'm not upset by what you did, I'm just shocked because as much as I can be an asshole to others on this game and that's why I'm not going to moralize to you because I'm not blameless myself, but to make fun of someone's suicide is something that's really fucked I don't know if you realize

edgy for sure but pretty mild and harmless compared to a lot of hateful stuff perpetuated by certain people :-)

“Guys I made fun of someone’s death but it’s ok because other people are hateful sometimes”

??
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Janne on April 10, 2022, 04:08:08 pm
Spoiler
Being respectful about someone’s death is the bare minimum you’d expect from a functional human being.

It is not ‘performative outrage’, as Janne seems to think,  to say that someone publicly making fun of a person’s death is a retard. Have some basic decency.
if u wanna show ur respect stfu and dont make it about yourself lol

1) I didn’t even post a message about Jones, so what the fuck are you talking about
2) Someone posting a message of condolence and being respectful about someone’s death is not making something about yourself
3) Why are you mad that people are rightly calling you a moron for lacking common sense and decency?
1) it was a general statement
2) ok
3) again i dont care about what u morons say. how am i the mad one did u read title for this threadd ?
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Well brother I'm not upset by what you did, I'm just shocked because as much as I can be an asshole to others on this game and that's why I'm not going to moralize to you because I'm not blameless myself, but to make fun of someone's suicide is something that's really fucked I don't know if you realize

edgy for sure but pretty mild and harmless compared to a lot of hateful stuff perpetuated by certain people :-)

“Guys I made fun of someone’s death but it’s ok because other people are hateful sometimes”

??

no u idiot i made a harmless joke and u all act like i killed a child but when someone actually says something harmful i dont see any threads being made
 xD



Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on April 10, 2022, 04:09:35 pm
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Being respectful about someone’s death is the bare minimum you’d expect from a functional human being.

It is not ‘performative outrage’, as Janne seems to think,  to say that someone publicly making fun of a person’s death is a retard. Have some basic decency.
if u wanna show ur respect stfu and dont make it about yourself lol

1) I didn’t even post a message about Jones, so what the fuck are you talking about
2) Someone posting a message of condolence and being respectful about someone’s death is not making something about yourself
3) Why are you mad that people are rightly calling you a moron for lacking common sense and decency?
1) it was a general statement
2) ok
3) again i dont care about what u morons say. how am i the mad one did u read title for this threadd ?
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Well brother I'm not upset by what you did, I'm just shocked because as much as I can be an asshole to others on this game and that's why I'm not going to moralize to you because I'm not blameless myself, but to make fun of someone's suicide is something that's really fucked I don't know if you realize

edgy for sure but pretty mild and harmless compared to a lot of hateful stuff perpetuated by certain people :-)

“Guys I made fun of someone’s death but it’s ok because other people are hateful sometimes”

??

no u idiot i made a harmless joke and u all act like i killed a child but when someone actually says something harmful i dont see any threads being made
 xD
Exhibit A: https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=47848.0
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Janne on April 10, 2022, 04:12:22 pm
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Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on April 10, 2022, 04:13:22 pm
Spoiler
Being respectful about someone’s death is the bare minimum you’d expect from a functional human being.

It is not ‘performative outrage’, as Janne seems to think,  to say that someone publicly making fun of a person’s death is a retard. Have some basic decency.
if u wanna show ur respect stfu and dont make it about yourself lol

1) I didn’t even post a message about Jones, so what the fuck are you talking about
2) Someone posting a message of condolence and being respectful about someone’s death is not making something about yourself
3) Why are you mad that people are rightly calling you a moron for lacking common sense and decency?
1) it was a general statement
2) ok
3) again i dont care about what u morons say. how am i the mad one did u read title for this threadd ?
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Well brother I'm not upset by what you did, I'm just shocked because as much as I can be an asshole to others on this game and that's why I'm not going to moralize to you because I'm not blameless myself, but to make fun of someone's suicide is something that's really fucked I don't know if you realize

edgy for sure but pretty mild and harmless compared to a lot of hateful stuff perpetuated by certain people :-)

“Guys I made fun of someone’s death but it’s ok because other people are hateful sometimes”

??

no u idiot i made a harmless joke and u all act like i killed a child but when someone actually says something harmful i dont see any threads being made
 xD
It's not true, for example one day I said a racist retarded joke to Smallest in a 45thN gf (i apologised to him) I was instant banned from your server and I'm still banned since 1 years but you making jokes about someone's suicide and blaming it on 55th for joking you will have nothing at all and you will not be banned from anywhere and you think you're the victim in the story because there's a thread to talk about it calmly?
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Vegi. on April 10, 2022, 04:13:29 pm
Do you think I didn't speak about it to Coco that he shouldn't be surprised that his actions got consequences when he says stuff like that.
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Gibby Jr on April 10, 2022, 04:14:01 pm
Spoiler
Being respectful about someone’s death is the bare minimum you’d expect from a functional human being.

It is not ‘performative outrage’, as Janne seems to think,  to say that someone publicly making fun of a person’s death is a retard. Have some basic decency.
if u wanna show ur respect stfu and dont make it about yourself lol

1) I didn’t even post a message about Jones, so what the fuck are you talking about
2) Someone posting a message of condolence and being respectful about someone’s death is not making something about yourself
3) Why are you mad that people are rightly calling you a moron for lacking common sense and decency?
1) it was a general statement
2) ok
3) again i dont care about what u morons say. how am i the mad one did u read title for this threadd ?
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Well brother I'm not upset by what you did, I'm just shocked because as much as I can be an asshole to others on this game and that's why I'm not going to moralize to you because I'm not blameless myself, but to make fun of someone's suicide is something that's really fucked I don't know if you realize

edgy for sure but pretty mild and harmless compared to a lot of hateful stuff perpetuated by certain people :-)

“Guys I made fun of someone’s death but it’s ok because other people are hateful sometimes”

??

no u idiot i made a harmless joke and u all act like i killed a child but when someone actually says something harmful i dont see any threads being made
 xD

Even the people whose hateful activities you are trying to use as justification for your own disrespectful post aren’t stupid enough to post their garbage on the forums. Other people being hateful =/= justification to make fun of tragedy. There are a lot of idiots in this community but your lack of basic decency really puts you up there with the all time dumbest.
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Janne on April 10, 2022, 04:21:18 pm
Spoiler
Being respectful about someone’s death is the bare minimum you’d expect from a functional human being.

It is not ‘performative outrage’, as Janne seems to think,  to say that someone publicly making fun of a person’s death is a retard. Have some basic decency.
if u wanna show ur respect stfu and dont make it about yourself lol

1) I didn’t even post a message about Jones, so what the fuck are you talking about
2) Someone posting a message of condolence and being respectful about someone’s death is not making something about yourself
3) Why are you mad that people are rightly calling you a moron for lacking common sense and decency?
1) it was a general statement
2) ok
3) again i dont care about what u morons say. how am i the mad one did u read title for this threadd ?
[close]
Well brother I'm not upset by what you did, I'm just shocked because as much as I can be an asshole to others on this game and that's why I'm not going to moralize to you because I'm not blameless myself, but to make fun of someone's suicide is something that's really fucked I don't know if you realize

edgy for sure but pretty mild and harmless compared to a lot of hateful stuff perpetuated by certain people :-)

“Guys I made fun of someone’s death but it’s ok because other people are hateful sometimes”

??

no u idiot i made a harmless joke and u all act like i killed a child but when someone actually says something harmful i dont see any threads being made
 xD

Even the people whose hateful activities you are trying to use as justification for your own disrespectful post aren’t stupid enough to post their garbage on the forums. Other people being hateful =/= justification to make fun of tragedy. There are a lot of idiots in this community but your lack of basic decency really puts you up there with the all time dumbest.
bro it was a joke how the fuck can you be this offended on someones behalf you didnt even know? fake outrage at its finest. i'm sure next time you see someone doing a distasteful joke about something actually hateful you will be just as livid :)
Do you think I didn't speak about it to Coco that he shouldn't be surprised that his actions got consequences when he says stuff like that.

please stop ur actually a moron xD

Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: LEVIS on April 10, 2022, 04:21:50 pm
Being respectful about someone’s death is the bare minimum you’d expect from a functional human being.

It is not ‘performative outrage’, as Janne seems to think,  to say that someone publicly making fun of a person’s death is a retard. Have some basic decency.
if u wanna show ur respect stfu and dont make it about yourself lol

1) I didn’t even post a message about Jones, so what the fuck are you talking about
2) Someone posting a message of condolence and being respectful about someone’s death is not making something about yourself
3) Why are you mad that people are rightly calling you a moron for lacking common sense and decency?
1) it was a general statement
2) ok
3) again i dont care about what u morons say. how am i the mad one did u read title for this threadd ?
maybe just maybe you can keep your thoughts to yourself and let people give condolence.
you are allowed to have your own opinion but doesn't mean that you have to share it especially in these moments
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Janne on April 10, 2022, 04:22:43 pm
Being respectful about someone’s death is the bare minimum you’d expect from a functional human being.

It is not ‘performative outrage’, as Janne seems to think,  to say that someone publicly making fun of a person’s death is a retard. Have some basic decency.
if u wanna show ur respect stfu and dont make it about yourself lol

1) I didn’t even post a message about Jones, so what the fuck are you talking about
2) Someone posting a message of condolence and being respectful about someone’s death is not making something about yourself
3) Why are you mad that people are rightly calling you a moron for lacking common sense and decency?
1) it was a general statement
2) ok
3) again i dont care about what u morons say. how am i the mad one did u read title for this threadd ?
maybe just maybe you can keep your thoughts to yourself and let people give condolence.
you are allowed to have your own opinion but doesn't mean that you have to share it especially in these moments

virtue signal spotted :-)
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: LEVIS on April 10, 2022, 04:27:14 pm
Being respectful about someone’s death is the bare minimum you’d expect from a functional human being.

It is not ‘performative outrage’, as Janne seems to think,  to say that someone publicly making fun of a person’s death is a retard. Have some basic decency.
if u wanna show ur respect stfu and dont make it about yourself lol

1) I didn’t even post a message about Jones, so what the fuck are you talking about
2) Someone posting a message of condolence and being respectful about someone’s death is not making something about yourself
3) Why are you mad that people are rightly calling you a moron for lacking common sense and decency?
1) it was a general statement
2) ok
3) again i dont care about what u morons say. how am i the mad one did u read title for this threadd ?
maybe just maybe you can keep your thoughts to yourself and let people give condolence.
you are allowed to have your own opinion but doesn't mean that you have to share it especially in these moments

virtue signal spotted :-)
janne you are a moron
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: R1bazZz on April 10, 2022, 04:27:41 pm
Janne has finally hit rock bottom
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Vegi. on April 10, 2022, 04:28:47 pm
Janne has finally hit rock bottom
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Steinmann on April 10, 2022, 04:34:02 pm
Janne has finally hit rock bottom
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Janne on April 10, 2022, 04:37:48 pm
good virtue signaling u fucking sheep lmao
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on April 10, 2022, 04:40:14 pm
Janne is clearly the rarest of sigma males, a lone wolf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB5KMBNXuys
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Janne on April 10, 2022, 04:44:29 pm
atleast somebody sees it
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Louisss on April 10, 2022, 04:48:13 pm
Delete this thread you dumb cunts.
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Fietta on April 10, 2022, 04:49:37 pm
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(https://i.imgur.com/oolUnC7.png)
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? @fietta

Delete this thread you dumb cunts.
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Gunmen on April 10, 2022, 05:08:49 pm
why not ?
this might be the most DISRESPECTFUL, but at the same time BRAVEST troll of all time on FSE.
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Kubus on April 10, 2022, 05:13:44 pm
why not ?
this might be the most DISRESPECTFUL, but at the same time BRAVEST troll of all time on FSE.
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Melsyo on April 10, 2022, 05:18:35 pm
why not ?
this might be the most DISRESPECTFUL, but at the same time BRAVEST troll of all time on FSE.
Trust me, there's no bravery involved
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Janne on April 10, 2022, 05:21:49 pm
surely disrespecting someone whos alive is much worse since they are actually there to receive and be affected by it :-)
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Giorno on April 10, 2022, 05:27:43 pm
So based bro, keep fighting the good fight for us Janne ✊ 8)
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Fietta on April 10, 2022, 05:40:11 pm
surely disrespecting someone whos alive is much worse since they are actually there to receive and be affected by it :-)

(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/mFiywP9BUHDC8AIRBDYJvXdfQiA=/1400x1050/filters:format(jpeg)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/23265504/Spider_Man_meme.jpg)
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Alf on April 10, 2022, 05:45:04 pm
Well this is certainly the lowest I’ve seen someone go on FSE, that’s saying something
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Kubus on April 10, 2022, 05:47:27 pm
Well this is certainly the lowest I’ve seen someone go on FSE, that’s saying something

did you see my regimental list ratings ?  :)
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: DayBoul on April 10, 2022, 06:37:50 pm
why not ?
Because this is something that can happen to anyone around us, would you not care if it happened to your parents or someone you liked and someone would be joking about it ?

it would be a cunt move but

a) why would i care about what any of u losers think or say
b) i wouldnt be talking about it on the forums

the only victim here is u morons and 99% of u never even talked to the guy

its funny how half of u racist mofos dont care about the actual harm you cause with actually living victims being hurt by your words.

point out how fucking performatively and pathetically u guys fake caring about someone u never even talk to and all heal breaks loose

funny !
janne was being the empathetic one this whole time, yall are just an unsensitive mob
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: sidney crosby on April 10, 2022, 07:19:06 pm
why not ?
Because this is something that can happen to anyone around us, would you not care if it happened to your parents or someone you liked and someone would be joking about it ?

it would be a cunt move but

a) why would i care about what any of u losers think or say
b) i wouldnt be talking about it on the forums

the only victim here is u morons and 99% of u never even talked to the guy

its funny how half of u racist mofos dont care about the actual harm you cause with actually living victims being hurt by your words.

point out how fucking performatively and pathetically u guys fake caring about someone u never even talk to and all heal breaks loose

funny !
Very based


Well this is certainly the lowest I’ve seen someone go on FSE, that’s saying something
muppet
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: RedFeu on April 10, 2022, 08:52:23 pm
You should have kept going to school Janne cuz when i see how sick ur brain is, it feels like ur mum, after shitting such a trash, realized she should have took this pill
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Zeyden 狼 on April 10, 2022, 09:44:02 pm
Spoiler
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? @fietta

Delete this thread you dumb cunts.
Just to be clear, I didn't quote the person in question once in my posts or in the title of the thread or anything else because my question is much more general than the incident, I know that in some cultures it's unacceptable to make fun of dead people and in others it's less of a big deal so i wanna see what poeple think about it because personally it shocked me. So before anyone comes and says "your thread is disrespectful" no, there is nothing inappropriate about asking a question after this morning's incident

Anyway yes, everyone said what they had to say and I was especially curious to see what Janne thought of it all and I don't think there's much point in keeping the thread alive
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Muhataa on April 10, 2022, 10:10:49 pm
I know Nico(Jones, he used to play under  his IRL name on many regiments) since 2016, He used to hang out with the bulgarians most of the time when they were actively playing,
most of you didn't even play back then nor knew shit about the game
The guy was always positive and near by friendly person that meant no harm to anyone
Janne writing such ''troll statements'' (If i was in 55th for that long i'd do the same)
Making fun out of a death person is a big disgusting thing you could do to mean harm to others.





Janne delete your posts/messages/statements
with no harm



Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: MikeyBruh on April 10, 2022, 11:03:26 pm
how is this even a discussions shouldnt not making fun of a death be the bare minimum
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: flo on April 11, 2022, 12:30:49 am
I know Nico(Jones, he used to play under  his IRL name on many regiments) since 2016, He used to hang out with the bulgarians most of the time when they were actively playing,
most of you didn't even play back then nor knew shit about the game
The guy was always positive and near by friendly person that meant no harm to anyone
Janne writing such ''troll statements'' (If i was in 55th for that long i'd do the same)
Making fun out of a death person is a big disgusting thing you could do to mean harm to others.





Janne delete your posts/messages/statements
with no harm
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Kore on April 11, 2022, 01:11:08 am
surely disrespecting someone whos alive is much worse since they are actually there to receive and be affected by it :-)

you could argue that the dead person can't defend themselves and hit back ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Janne on April 11, 2022, 05:39:34 am
I know Nico(Jones, he used to play under  his IRL name on many regiments) since 2016, He used to hang out with the bulgarians most of the time when they were actively playing,
most of you didn't even play back then nor knew shit about the game
The guy was always positive and near by friendly person that meant no harm to anyone
Janne writing such ''troll statements'' (If i was in 55th for that long i'd do the same)
Making fun out of a death person is a big disgusting thing you could do to mean harm to others.





Janne delete your posts/messages/statements
with no harm

only people being harmed here is you morons choosing to get offended BY A JOKE
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Nock on April 11, 2022, 05:53:04 am
I know Nico(Jones, he used to play under  his IRL name on many regiments) since 2016, He used to hang out with the bulgarians most of the time when they were actively playing,
most of you didn't even play back then nor knew shit about the game
The guy was always positive and near by friendly person that meant no harm to anyone
Janne writing such ''troll statements'' (If i was in 55th for that long i'd do the same)
Making fun out of a death person is a big disgusting thing you could do to mean harm to others.





Janne delete your posts/messages/statements
with no harm

only people being harmed here is you morons choosing to get offended BY A JOKE

haha so funny look how based and lonely and edgy and cringe i am hahaha
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Janne on April 11, 2022, 06:18:12 am
I know Nico(Jones, he used to play under  his IRL name on many regiments) since 2016, He used to hang out with the bulgarians most of the time when they were actively playing,
most of you didn't even play back then nor knew shit about the game
The guy was always positive and near by friendly person that meant no harm to anyone
Janne writing such ''troll statements'' (If i was in 55th for that long i'd do the same)
Making fun out of a death person is a big disgusting thing you could do to mean harm to others.





Janne delete your posts/messages/statements
with no harm

only people being harmed here is you morons choosing to get offended BY A JOKE

haha so funny look how based and lonely and edgy and cringe i am hahaha
it's fine if you think im cringe but acting like i killed a child is ten times more cringe
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Nock on April 11, 2022, 09:27:08 am
I know Nico(Jones, he used to play under  his IRL name on many regiments) since 2016, He used to hang out with the bulgarians most of the time when they were actively playing,
most of you didn't even play back then nor knew shit about the game
The guy was always positive and near by friendly person that meant no harm to anyone
Janne writing such ''troll statements'' (If i was in 55th for that long i'd do the same)
Making fun out of a death person is a big disgusting thing you could do to mean harm to others.





Janne delete your posts/messages/statements
with no harm

only people being harmed here is you morons choosing to get offended BY A JOKE

haha so funny look how based and lonely and edgy and cringe i am hahaha
it's fine if you think im cringe but acting like i killed a child is ten times more cringe
for the love of god just go back to 4chan or wherever your edginess came from and bring along your racist non-friends thanks
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Phil The Thril on April 11, 2022, 11:09:41 am
i mean the joke was pretty tasteless but really not that offensive and certainly not egregious enough to have a 5 page thread dedicated to it and the person who is clearly enjoying the attention its brought him
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Vegi. on April 11, 2022, 11:11:07 am
i mean the joke was pretty tasteless but really not that offensive and certainly not egregious enough to have a 5 page thread dedicated to it and the person who is clearly enjoying the attention its brought him
I mean what else is there supposed to do on FSE?
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Janne on April 11, 2022, 11:11:22 am
I know Nico(Jones, he used to play under  his IRL name on many regiments) since 2016, He used to hang out with the bulgarians most of the time when they were actively playing,
most of you didn't even play back then nor knew shit about the game
The guy was always positive and near by friendly person that meant no harm to anyone
Janne writing such ''troll statements'' (If i was in 55th for that long i'd do the same)
Making fun out of a death person is a big disgusting thing you could do to mean harm to others.





Janne delete your posts/messages/statements
with no harm

only people being harmed here is you morons choosing to get offended BY A JOKE

haha so funny look how based and lonely and edgy and cringe i am hahaha
it's fine if you think im cringe but acting like i killed a child is ten times more cringe
for the love of god just go back to 4chan or wherever your edginess came from and bring along your racist non-friends thanks
bring along what ? i don't make friends with racist people i thought that should've been obvious considering what i've posted here lol. the joke wasn't for everyone but that's fine it was just a fucking joke.
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Janne on April 11, 2022, 11:11:56 am
i mean the joke was pretty tasteless but really not that offensive and certainly not egregious enough to have a 5 page thread dedicated to it and the person who is clearly enjoying the attention its brought him

this
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Fwuffy on April 11, 2022, 11:26:10 am
ur not wrong janne, i just wouldn't have put it as eloquently as u
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Janne on April 11, 2022, 11:27:45 am
ur not wrong janne, i just wouldn't have put it as eloquently as u

banned from mm
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Fwuffy on April 11, 2022, 12:10:52 pm
ur not wrong janne, i just wouldn't have put it as eloquently as u

banned from mm
;-; kms
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Muhataa on April 11, 2022, 12:23:28 pm
I will not repeat again

Delete your latest posts about the joke u've made about Jones(Nico)

Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: MarxeiL on April 11, 2022, 12:27:26 pm
So based bro, keep fighting the good fight for us Janne ✊ 8)
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Janne on April 11, 2022, 12:33:35 pm
I will not repeat again

Delete your latest posts about the joke u've made about Jones(Nico)

or what ?
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: MarxeiL on April 11, 2022, 12:39:27 pm
Why would you all populate so hard about someone's death? Especially how you could be sad for a guy who literally had everything in his life, parents, university, he lived in a good European country, he didn't need to fight for his life, and I'm sure he didn't know what despair is. Yet he didn't give a fuck about his parents, about everything and everyone who cared about him, and committed suicide. This is the most stupid and most egotistical option you could ever do, especially at his age. You could be sad about him being mentally ill, but telling him to rest in peace after such a tremendous move is just disrespecting other people's death, people which deserve to rest in peace much more than this kid.

I'm not saying making jokes about someone's death is good, but also the way you all act is foolish.
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: crazypro25. on April 11, 2022, 12:44:29 pm
Big Bruh
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Muhataa on April 11, 2022, 01:04:54 pm
Why would you all populate so hard about someone's death? Especially how you could be sad for a guy who literally had everything in his life, parents, university, he lived in a good European country, he didn't need to fight for his life, and I'm sure he didn't know what despair is. Yet he didn't give a fuck about his parents, about everything and everyone who cared about him, and committed suicide. This is the most stupid and most egotistical option you could ever do, especially at his age. You could be sad about him being mentally ill, but telling him to rest in peace after such a tremendous move is just disrespecting other people's death, people which deserve to rest in peace much more than this kid.

I'm not saying making jokes about someone's death is good, but also the way you all act is foolish.

You have to blame Janne for his doings for also provoking this & starting it.

Seems like Janne has no intention so far of removing his statements/messages/posts about Nico(Jones)

See you soon

Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Gibby Jr on April 11, 2022, 02:06:35 pm
Why would you all populate so hard about someone's death? Especially how you could be sad for a guy who literally had everything in his life, parents, university, he lived in a good European country, he didn't need to fight for his life, and I'm sure he didn't know what despair is. Yet he didn't give a fuck about his parents, about everything and everyone who cared about him, and committed suicide. This is the most stupid and most egotistical option you could ever do, especially at his age. You could be sad about him being mentally ill, but telling him to rest in peace after such a tremendous move is just disrespecting other people's death, people which deserve to rest in peace much more than this kid.

I'm not saying making jokes about someone's death is good, but also the way you all act is foolish.

This is absolute nonsense. Because other people have suffered more than him it’s not sad? How much does one have to suffer for it to be worth considering being “sad” about in your view? It is absolutely insane to say that it is disrespecting “other people’s deaths” to say “rest in peace” to Jones. I don’t understand how you can even come to that conclusion.

Yes, some people die in greater suffering than others but that doesn’t mean those who suffered “less” deserve less respect.
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Fietta on April 11, 2022, 02:17:36 pm
Delete this thread you dumb cunts.
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Vegi. on April 11, 2022, 02:22:54 pm
Why would you all populate so hard about someone's death? Especially how you could be sad for a guy who literally had everything in his life, parents, university, he lived in a good European country, he didn't need to fight for his life, and I'm sure he didn't know what despair is. Yet he didn't give a fuck about his parents, about everything and everyone who cared about him, and committed suicide. This is the most stupid and most egotistical option you could ever do, especially at his age. You could be sad about him being mentally ill, but telling him to rest in peace after such a tremendous move is just disrespecting other people's death, people which deserve to rest in peace much more than this kid.

I'm not saying making jokes about someone's death is good, but also the way you all act is foolish.

This is absolute nonsense. Because other people have suffered more than him it’s not sad? How much does one have to suffer for it to be worth considering being “sad” about in your view? It is absolutely insane to say that it is disrespecting “other people’s deaths” to say “rest in peace” to Jones. I don’t understand how you can even come to that conclusion.

Yes, some people die in greater suffering than others but that doesn’t mean those who suffered “less” deserve less respect.
It's alright Gibby, he just made a self-centered comment because his country is suffering now.
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Kore on April 11, 2022, 04:21:50 pm
Why would you all populate so hard about someone's death? Especially how you could be sad for a guy who literally had everything in his life, parents, university, he lived in a good European country, he didn't need to fight for his life, and I'm sure he didn't know what despair is. Yet he didn't give a fuck about his parents, about everything and everyone who cared about him, and committed suicide. This is the most stupid and most egotistical option you could ever do, especially at his age. You could be sad about him being mentally ill, but telling him to rest in peace after such a tremendous move is just disrespecting other people's death, people which deserve to rest in peace much more than this kid.

I'm not saying making jokes about someone's death is good, but also the way you all act is foolish.

This is absolute nonsense. Because other people have suffered more than him it’s not sad? How much does one have to suffer for it to be worth considering being “sad” about in your view? It is absolutely insane to say that it is disrespecting “other people’s deaths” to say “rest in peace” to Jones. I don’t understand how you can even come to that conclusion.

Yes, some people die in greater suffering than others but that doesn’t mean those who suffered “less” deserve less respect.
It's alright Gibby, he just made a self-centered comment because his country is suffering now.

Bruh

Not trying to disrespecting the guy, but marxeil has a point
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: DayBoul on April 11, 2022, 05:30:51 pm
Why would you all populate so hard about someone's death? Especially how you could be sad for a guy who literally had everything in his life, parents, university, he lived in a good European country, he didn't need to fight for his life, and I'm sure he didn't know what despair is. Yet he didn't give a fuck about his parents, about everything and everyone who cared about him, and committed suicide. This is the most stupid and most egotistical option you could ever do, especially at his age. You could be sad about him being mentally ill, but telling him to rest in peace after such a tremendous move is just disrespecting other people's death, people which deserve to rest in peace much more than this kid.

I'm not saying making jokes about someone's death is good, but also the way you all act is foolish.

You have to blame Janne
over marxeil's dead fucking body lol
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Dokletian on April 11, 2022, 05:42:57 pm
>supposedly has everything in life and hasn‘t suffered a single moment in his life
>commits suicide
ok buddy

I wouldn‘t recommend following this comparative logic. Eventually it always leads into a vicious circle of endless 'A is not even that bad if you compare it to X', which leads to nowhere. Hell, equipped with such logic, one might even argue that currently Ukrainians shouldn‘t complain so much about their situation, since there are much more brutal and deadly wars happening around the world, e.g Yemen and Syria. Obviously I would never even think of making such an argument, because it‘d be just stupid and pointless. Though it illustrates how dumb these kind of (never-ending) comparisons are.

I thoroughly believe tragedy, pain and suffering - especially the emotional and psychological aspects - are always to be regarded in their individualistic nature. Meaning to be seen relatively. Suicide should of course never be an option! Taking your own life is the single most drastic and momentous decision a human can possibly make. Lord knows how much personal suffering someone must go through to ultimately be left with no other than this ultimate way in his own sight.

Calling him weak and basically to forbid someone like him to feel such a high level of despair - a level that in his point of view left no options but self-murder - simply because his life looks alright on paper to you is unfair and leaves zero thought for the actual situation the person has repeatedly found himself in. It not just disregards the mental struggle but also completely belittles the dead-end nature of suicide, an aspect anyone actually committing it is definitely aware of.


Personally, I didn‘t know Jones and even though it is always tragic when someone passes away, I did not take part in the abstruse discussion before. But since Marxeil's post has more of a general touch I felt like responding with my thoughts on such a matter. With a clear but necessary maxim: always put yourself in someone‘s shoes before judging him and if you can‘t, then simply don‘t.
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: DarkTemplar on April 11, 2022, 08:44:38 pm
>supposedly has everything in life and hasn‘t suffered a single moment in his life
>commits suicide
ok buddy

I wouldn‘t recommend following this comparative logic. Eventually it always leads into a vicious circle of endless 'A is not even that bad if you compare it to X', which leads to nowhere. Hell, equipped with such logic, one might even argue that currently Ukrainians shouldn‘t complain so much about their situation, since there are much more brutal and deadly wars happening around the world, e.g Yemen and Syria. Obviously I would never even think of making such an argument, because it‘d be just stupid and pointless. Though it illustrates how dumb these kind of (never-ending) comparisons are.

I thoroughly believe tragedy, pain and suffering - especially the emotional and psychological aspects - are always to be regarded in their individualistic nature. Meaning to be seen relatively. Suicide should of course never be an option! Taking your own life is the single most drastic and momentous decision a human can possibly make. Lord knows how much personal suffering someone must go through to ultimately be left with no other than this ultimate way in his own sight.

Calling him weak and basically to forbid someone like him to feel such a high level of despair - a level that in his point of view left no options but self-murder - simply because his life looks alright on paper to you is unfair and leaves zero thought for the actual situation the person has repeatedly found himself in. It not just disregards the mental struggle but also completely belittles the dead-end nature of suicide, an aspect anyone actually committing it is definitely aware of.


Personally, I didn‘t know Jones and even though it is always tragic when someone passes away, I did not take part in the abstruse discussion before. But since Marxeil's post has more of a general touch I felt like responding with my thoughts on such a matter. With a clear but necessary maxim: always put yourself in someone‘s shoes before judging him and if you can‘t, then simply don‘t.

thank you

Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: LEVIS on April 11, 2022, 09:02:13 pm
>supposedly has everything in life and hasn‘t suffered a single moment in his life
>commits suicide
ok buddy

I wouldn‘t recommend following this comparative logic. Eventually it always leads into a vicious circle of endless 'A is not even that bad if you compare it to X', which leads to nowhere. Hell, equipped with such logic, one might even argue that currently Ukrainians shouldn‘t complain so much about their situation, since there are much more brutal and deadly wars happening around the world, e.g Yemen and Syria. Obviously I would never even think of making such an argument, because it‘d be just stupid and pointless. Though it illustrates how dumb these kind of (never-ending) comparisons are.

I thoroughly believe tragedy, pain and suffering - especially the emotional and psychological aspects - are always to be regarded in their individualistic nature. Meaning to be seen relatively. Suicide should of course never be an option! Taking your own life is the single most drastic and momentous decision a human can possibly make. Lord knows how much personal suffering someone must go through to ultimately be left with no other than this ultimate way in his own sight.

Calling him weak and basically to forbid someone like him to feel such a high level of despair - a level that in his point of view left no options but self-murder - simply because his life looks alright on paper to you is unfair and leaves zero thought for the actual situation the person has repeatedly found himself in. It not just disregards the mental struggle but also completely belittles the dead-end nature of suicide, an aspect anyone actually committing it is definitely aware of.


Personally, I didn‘t know Jones and even though it is always tragic when someone passes away, I did not take part in the abstruse discussion before. But since Marxeil's post has more of a general touch I felt like responding with my thoughts on such a matter. With a clear but necessary maxim: always put yourself in someone‘s shoes before judging him and if you can‘t, then simply don‘t.

thank you
+1
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Vegi. on April 11, 2022, 09:23:40 pm
>supposedly has everything in life and hasn‘t suffered a single moment in his life
>commits suicide
ok buddy

I wouldn‘t recommend following this comparative logic. Eventually it always leads into a vicious circle of endless 'A is not even that bad if you compare it to X', which leads to nowhere. Hell, equipped with such logic, one might even argue that currently Ukrainians shouldn‘t complain so much about their situation, since there are much more brutal and deadly wars happening around the world, e.g Yemen and Syria. Obviously I would never even think of making such an argument, because it‘d be just stupid and pointless. Though it illustrates how dumb these kind of (never-ending) comparisons are.

I thoroughly believe tragedy, pain and suffering - especially the emotional and psychological aspects - are always to be regarded in their individualistic nature. Meaning to be seen relatively. Suicide should of course never be an option! Taking your own life is the single most drastic and momentous decision a human can possibly make. Lord knows how much personal suffering someone must go through to ultimately be left with no other than this ultimate way in his own sight.

Calling him weak and basically to forbid someone like him to feel such a high level of despair - a level that in his point of view left no options but self-murder - simply because his life looks alright on paper to you is unfair and leaves zero thought for the actual situation the person has repeatedly found himself in. It not just disregards the mental struggle but also completely belittles the dead-end nature of suicide, an aspect anyone actually committing it is definitely aware of.


Personally, I didn‘t know Jones and even though it is always tragic when someone passes away, I did not take part in the abstruse discussion before. But since Marxeil's post has more of a general touch I felt like responding with my thoughts on such a matter. With a clear but necessary maxim: always put yourself in someone‘s shoes before judging him and if you can‘t, then simply don‘t.

thank you
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Golden. on April 11, 2022, 09:44:23 pm
>supposedly has everything in life and hasn‘t suffered a single moment in his life
>commits suicide
ok buddy

I wouldn‘t recommend following this comparative logic. Eventually it always leads into a vicious circle of endless 'A is not even that bad if you compare it to X', which leads to nowhere. Hell, equipped with such logic, one might even argue that currently Ukrainians shouldn‘t complain so much about their situation, since there are much more brutal and deadly wars happening around the world, e.g Yemen and Syria. Obviously I would never even think of making such an argument, because it‘d be just stupid and pointless. Though it illustrates how dumb these kind of (never-ending) comparisons are.

I thoroughly believe tragedy, pain and suffering - especially the emotional and psychological aspects - are always to be regarded in their individualistic nature. Meaning to be seen relatively. Suicide should of course never be an option! Taking your own life is the single most drastic and momentous decision a human can possibly make. Lord knows how much personal suffering someone must go through to ultimately be left with no other than this ultimate way in his own sight.

Calling him weak and basically to forbid someone like him to feel such a high level of despair - a level that in his point of view left no options but self-murder - simply because his life looks alright on paper to you is unfair and leaves zero thought for the actual situation the person has repeatedly found himself in. It not just disregards the mental struggle but also completely belittles the dead-end nature of suicide, an aspect anyone actually committing it is definitely aware of.


Personally, I didn‘t know Jones and even though it is always tragic when someone passes away, I did not take part in the abstruse discussion before. But since Marxeil's post has more of a general touch I felt like responding with my thoughts on such a matter. With a clear but necessary maxim: always put yourself in someone‘s shoes before judging him and if you can‘t, then simply don‘t.

thank you

+1

@Muha I remember the 82nd with Jones that was some good times a really funny guy.

Shame some people lack even basic levels of respect, if you want to make nasty jokes about it do it with your own friends in your own time, but to post it on a public gaming forum is just sad and disturbing.
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: KOBZIK on April 11, 2022, 09:59:57 pm
I dont think that this topic and this event should have been published on fse. It is a private tragedy and noone should be allowed to publish anything on not related forums like "NWWC Teams" any message even 'rip' messages shouldn't be allowed to post. If you want to press F to show respect then you can do it on FB on his page. Competitive board on fse isn't the right place, so I wouldn't hate on Janne here.
Title: Re: are we allowing people to mock someone else death ?
Post by: Herishey on April 11, 2022, 10:00:46 pm
I believe enough has been said here now on both sides of the argument and as has been said before this really isn't the place and you don't know who your posts could affect positive or negative on the subject so I will be locking this now.