What's the main Dutch centre-right party? I assume it's not Wilders.
Though since CDA abandoned their religious main course, they became centre-left.
I dont know what i'll be voting, I'd like to see defence getting more funding though.
You are Dutch, I assume?Yes :P. All (read: Most) got some valid points. The only politician i somewhat like is Alexander Pechtold.
The wave of right-wing populism in the world as of late is absolutely disgusting.Fuck off Che lover
I think Pim Fortuyn was the best leader the Netherlands never had-great shame he was assassinated he was better than Wilders. If I were Dutch I'd vote for Baudet.
The wave of right-wing populism in the world as of late is absolutely disgusting.It's a perfectly natural response to the perceived rise of the extreme social and economic left. (So, you)
Maybe if you started using rational thought in response to knee jerk emotional reaction you'd have more success bringing people to your cause, lol.In my eyes, the rise of right wing populism is based on xenophobia, bigotry and racism. My response is not really a knee jerk reaction, its literally trump in the US, UKIP and others with Brexit and now other european nations. The central theme seems to be to keep out foreigners...
The rise of right wing populism is due to the rise of the social democratic left, and it's perceived power in society.
I wonder why Merkel hates Germany so muchMaybe because Germany hates Germany.
Just out of question Theodin, who are you hoping to win the conservative leadership race?I want Harper to raise from the dead and run again :P No honestly I have no clue. I haven't looked into it much, when the race narrows i'll look more closely. Perhaps someone like Michael Chong or Lisa Rait, someone who can grab some of the social vote. While i'm not socially left, I don't think a Conservative can win without being at least socially centre, so as long as whoever wins is socially centre and economically right i'll support them. Meaning i'm not enjoying O'Leary being the favorite, as it's clear he's not a very centrist person. But then again, as I said, i'm not really following it very closely.
I really hope Merkel will be elected another time, there is no good alternative.....there is an alternative my freund
I really hope Merkel will be elected another time, there is no good alternative.....there is an alternative my freundSpoiler(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2FtHF15%2Fff9b1ca4f7.jpg&hash=27289a2e4943f70c4f4a5559738fc8fb725feef2)[close]
Not sure there is still a lot of people eligible to vote here :D
For France, briefly, it will be interesting. Le Pen (despite multiple judicial affairs) will pass the first round, but i'm not that worried, it will be like in 2002 with her father. What is interesting is there is an explosion of the tradtionnal parties : Socialists are weakeaned and heavily divided, Right is showing unity but it's just for the show and the "tchatcher-like" Fillon candidacy is very fragile. As far I see, there is a strong chance that Macron, liberal independant will pass.
Yeah no.I really hope Merkel will be elected another time, there is no good alternative.....there is an alternative my freundSpoiler(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2FtHF15%2Fff9b1ca4f7.jpg&hash=27289a2e4943f70c4f4a5559738fc8fb725feef2)[close]
It is the only alternative.L I T E R A L L Y
I think Pim Fortuyn was the best leader the Netherlands never had-great shame he was assassinated he was better than Wilders. If I were Dutch I'd vote for Baudet.
I think Pim Fortuyn was the best leader the Netherlands never had-great shame he was assassinated he was better than Wilders. If I were Dutch I'd vote for Baudet.
Baudet? What? Why?
Everyone that's anti EU is the best.I think Pim Fortuyn was the best leader the Netherlands never had-great shame he was assassinated he was better than Wilders. If I were Dutch I'd vote for Baudet.
Baudet? What? Why?
The wave of right-wing populism in the world as of late is absolutely disgusting.Says the communist lol
gross...liberals...Everyone that's anti EU is the best.I think Pim Fortuyn was the best leader the Netherlands never had-great shame he was assassinated he was better than Wilders. If I were Dutch I'd vote for Baudet.
Baudet? What? Why?
Btw (if anyone cares) I might run as a muncipial candidate for the liberals in the next Swedish election.
Mainly because my muncipality have been fucked by Socialdemocrats for ages, highest tax rates in all of Sweden yay.
Not sure there is still a lot of people eligible to vote here :DYe Le Pen will pass the first round of course ::) not the second.
For France, briefly, it will be interesting. Le Pen (despite multiple judicial affairs) will pass the first round, but i'm not that worried, it will be like in 2002 with her father. What is interesting is there is an explosion of the tradtionnal parties : Socialists are weakeaned and heavily divided, Right is showing unity but it's just for the show and the "tchatcher-like" Fillon candidacy is very fragile. As far I see, there is a strong chance that Macron, liberal independant will pass.
It almost seems too easy for leftists to blame racism and bigotry to detract from their own failings.Maybe if you started using rational thought in response to knee jerk emotional reaction you'd have more success bringing people to your cause, lol.In my eyes, the rise of right wing populism is based on xenophobia, bigotry and racism. My response is not really a knee jerk reaction, its literally trump in the US, UKIP and others with Brexit and now other european nations. The central theme seems to be to keep out foreigners...
The rise of right wing populism is due to the rise of the social democratic left, and it's perceived power in society.
You can say that it's a response to the left and in some ways that may be true but the more likely case is that some folks became scared of people who look different.I wonder why Merkel hates Germany so muchMaybe because Germany hates Germany.
Whose failings exactly? Mine? That of the neo-liberal establishment before trump? SJWs? I'm not a neo-liberal and i don't really identify much with the cause of identity politics (ie: SJWs).It almost seems too easy for leftists to blame racism and bigotry to detract from their own failings.Maybe if you started using rational thought in response to knee jerk emotional reaction you'd have more success bringing people to your cause, lol.In my eyes, the rise of right wing populism is based on xenophobia, bigotry and racism. My response is not really a knee jerk reaction, its literally trump in the US, UKIP and others with Brexit and now other european nations. The central theme seems to be to keep out foreigners...
The rise of right wing populism is due to the rise of the social democratic left, and it's perceived power in society.
You can say that it's a response to the left and in some ways that may be true but the more likely case is that some folks became scared of people who look different.I wonder why Merkel hates Germany so muchMaybe because Germany hates Germany.
In my eyes, the rise of right wing populism is based on xenophobia, bigotry and racism. My response is not really a knee jerk reaction, its literally trump in the US, UKIP and others with Brexit and now other european nations. The central theme seems to be to keep out foreigners...
You can say that it's a response to the left and in some ways that may be true but the more likely case is that some folks became scared of people who look different.
I remember there were bombings and kidnappings and shootings happening, just 40 years ago in Germany, because of Political "left vs. right" shit.
So, I am guessing it has calmed down a lot since then.
Whose failings exactly? Mine? That of the neo-liberal establishment before trump? SJWs? I'm not a neo-liberal and i don't really identify much with the cause of identity politics (ie: SJWs).It almost seems too easy for leftists to blame racism and bigotry to detract from their own failings.Maybe if you started using rational thought in response to knee jerk emotional reaction you'd have more success bringing people to your cause, lol.In my eyes, the rise of right wing populism is based on xenophobia, bigotry and racism. My response is not really a knee jerk reaction, its literally trump in the US, UKIP and others with Brexit and now other european nations. The central theme seems to be to keep out foreigners...
The rise of right wing populism is due to the rise of the social democratic left, and it's perceived power in society.
You can say that it's a response to the left and in some ways that may be true but the more likely case is that some folks became scared of people who look different.I wonder why Merkel hates Germany so muchMaybe because Germany hates Germany.
I don't really agree with that notion. There has always been a 'left=commies' and 'right=racist' mentality, which leads to the 'us-versus-them' feeling in politics, but this is relatively on a pretty harmless scale. Politics will always divide us and it isn't, and shouldn't, anything to worry about.
I remember there were bombings and kidnappings and shootings happening, just 40 years ago in Germany, because of Political "left vs. right" shit.
So, I am guessing it has calmed down a lot since then.
Eh, how old are you?
I remember there were bombings and kidnappings and shootings happening, just 40 years ago in Germany, because of Political "left vs. right" shit.
So, I am guessing it has calmed down a lot since then.
Eh, how old are you?
What role does that play?
All I am saying is, that the political environment is a lot calmer now than it used to be...
What a devastating trap card activation from Apoc
I remember there were bombings and kidnappings and shootings happening, just 40 years ago in Germany, because of Political "left vs. right" shit.
So, I am guessing it has calmed down a lot since then.
Eh, how old are you?
What role does that play?
All I am saying is, that the political environment is a lot calmer now than it used to be...
Except the SPD doesn't have a candidate yet. So they would vote for Merkel, even tho she is in a different Party.hasn't schulz become the official candidate recently? ???
I find it hard to understand that someone from Sweden thinks leaving the EU is a good idea.
What i mean by "not identifying much with the cause of identity politics" is that i see it as less important than classism. Even though others may disagree with feminists, the concept of 'privilege' still exists. To what extent it exists is what is debated. I'll use an example, there is a homeless white man and a rich black trans woman, who has more privilege? The rich black trans woman because classism is more important than your identity. This is what i mean when i say that i don't identify as much with identity politics.SpoilerWhose failings exactly? Mine? That of the neo-liberal establishment before trump? SJWs? I'm not a neo-liberal and i don't really identify much with the cause of identity politics (ie: SJWs).It almost seems too easy for leftists to blame racism and bigotry to detract from their own failings.Maybe if you started using rational thought in response to knee jerk emotional reaction you'd have more success bringing people to your cause, lol.In my eyes, the rise of right wing populism is based on xenophobia, bigotry and racism. My response is not really a knee jerk reaction, its literally trump in the US, UKIP and others with Brexit and now other european nations. The central theme seems to be to keep out foreigners...
The rise of right wing populism is due to the rise of the social democratic left, and it's perceived power in society.
You can say that it's a response to the left and in some ways that may be true but the more likely case is that some folks became scared of people who look different.I wonder why Merkel hates Germany so muchMaybe because Germany hates Germany.[close]
Hold on there, you just activated my trap card, "Check yourself before you rek yourself". When an opponent tries to distance themselves from identity politics, remind them that they blamed the rise of the populist right on racism and xenophobia, which is basically identity politics.
It also allows me to draw 2 more cards.
What i mean by "not identifying much with the cause of identity politics" is that i see it as less important than classism. Even though others may disagree with feminists, the concept of 'privilege' still exists. To what extent it exists is what is debated. I'll use an example, there is a homeless white man and a rich black trans woman, who has more privilege? The rich black trans woman because classism is more important than your identity. This is what i mean when i say that i don't identify as much with identity politics.SpoilerWhose failings exactly? Mine? That of the neo-liberal establishment before trump? SJWs? I'm not a neo-liberal and i don't really identify much with the cause of identity politics (ie: SJWs).It almost seems too easy for leftists to blame racism and bigotry to detract from their own failings.Maybe if you started using rational thought in response to knee jerk emotional reaction you'd have more success bringing people to your cause, lol.In my eyes, the rise of right wing populism is based on xenophobia, bigotry and racism. My response is not really a knee jerk reaction, its literally trump in the US, UKIP and others with Brexit and now other european nations. The central theme seems to be to keep out foreigners...
The rise of right wing populism is due to the rise of the social democratic left, and it's perceived power in society.
You can say that it's a response to the left and in some ways that may be true but the more likely case is that some folks became scared of people who look different.I wonder why Merkel hates Germany so muchMaybe because Germany hates Germany.[close]
Hold on there, you just activated my trap card, "Check yourself before you rek yourself". When an opponent tries to distance themselves from identity politics, remind them that they blamed the rise of the populist right on racism and xenophobia, which is basically identity politics.
It also allows me to draw 2 more cards.
However that being said, i'm not going to ignore identity politics when it is relevant, such as the case with Donald Trump. The Muslim ban is racist, it's targeting a specific group of people with a specific religion different to ours. The ban contradicts itself because saudi arabia is mysteriously nowhere to be found on the list (15 of the 19 planners of 9/11 were saudis) while Iraq which has never caused a single terror attack against the united states just so happens to be on the list.
I'm attacking you directly for 500 lifepoints.What i mean by "not identifying much with the cause of identity politics" is that i see it as less important than classism. Even though others may disagree with feminists, the concept of 'privilege' still exists. To what extent it exists is what is debated. I'll use an example, there is a homeless white man and a rich black trans woman, who has more privilege? The rich black trans woman because classism is more important than your identity. This is what i mean when i say that i don't identify as much with identity politics.SpoilerWhose failings exactly? Mine? That of the neo-liberal establishment before trump? SJWs? I'm not a neo-liberal and i don't really identify much with the cause of identity politics (ie: SJWs).It almost seems too easy for leftists to blame racism and bigotry to detract from their own failings.Maybe if you started using rational thought in response to knee jerk emotional reaction you'd have more success bringing people to your cause, lol.In my eyes, the rise of right wing populism is based on xenophobia, bigotry and racism. My response is not really a knee jerk reaction, its literally trump in the US, UKIP and others with Brexit and now other european nations. The central theme seems to be to keep out foreigners...
The rise of right wing populism is due to the rise of the social democratic left, and it's perceived power in society.
You can say that it's a response to the left and in some ways that may be true but the more likely case is that some folks became scared of people who look different.I wonder why Merkel hates Germany so muchMaybe because Germany hates Germany.[close]
Hold on there, you just activated my trap card, "Check yourself before you rek yourself". When an opponent tries to distance themselves from identity politics, remind them that they blamed the rise of the populist right on racism and xenophobia, which is basically identity politics.
It also allows me to draw 2 more cards.
However that being said, i'm not going to ignore identity politics when it is relevant, such as the case with Donald Trump. The Muslim ban is racist, it's targeting a specific group of people with a specific religion different to ours. The ban contradicts itself because saudi arabia is mysteriously nowhere to be found on the list (15 of the 19 planners of 9/11 were saudis) while Iraq which has never caused a single terror attack against the united states just so happens to be on the list.
You could've ended it after your first paragraph and I would have been more or less like "Fair Enough", even though you never explained why everyone (especially the working class you communists love) suddenly decided to be xenophobic and racist. But then ya fucked up.
Your first mistake is CNN
Your second mistake is that Islam is not a race, therefore it literally cannot be racist. For example, if I were to found a Death Cult in which we worshipped Shia Labeouf and partook in Human Sacrifices, and our religion was subsequently banned from the United States, it wouldn't be racist as we would be a religion not a race. I'm guessing when you say Muslim you mean Arabs, but referring to Arabs as Muslims is far from politically correct to the point it could actually be racist, as you are saying that all Arabs are Muslim, and nobody else besides Arabs can be muslim.
Your third mistake is saying that it is a Muslim Ban, which it's not. Referring to it as a Muslim ban is purposefully misleading in a number of ways. The first of which, you make it sound like Islam itself is banned in the United States, which it is definitely not. Secondly, it is a ban on a number of countries identified by the Obama Administration as sources of terror. My guess is that the list was compiled by data from Terror attacks around the world, and not just America, so the nationality of terrorists who have committed terror attacks on American soil might not necessarily reflect the nationality of a majority of terrorists worldwide. But of course, I know the left likes to shy away from statistics and data when it comes to Terrorism.
Your last mistake is bringing up the nationalities of the terrorists from countries we haven't banned, and I am still not entirely sure why the hell you would do that. Are you trying to argue that we should ban more countries? Bringing them up is literally an argument to ban MORE countries. It is definitely not an argument against the ban. You call it the ban contradicting itself, I call it Trump being soft. It shocks me that you wanted him to be tougher.
Conclusion: Even "when relevant", Identity Politics is still stupid.
I will then play two cards face down and end my turn.
Sorry for the doublepost, but it's just great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sq-VPDtNK4
Sorry for the doublepost, but it's just greatMeh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sq-VPDtNK4
What i mean by "not identifying much with the cause of identity politics" is that i see it as less important than classism. Even though others may disagree with feminists, the concept of 'privilege' still exists. To what extent it exists is what is debated. I'll use an example, there is a homeless white man and a rich black trans woman, who has more privilege? The rich black trans woman because classism is more important than your identity. This is what i mean when i say that i don't identify as much with identity politics.SpoilerWhose failings exactly? Mine? That of the neo-liberal establishment before trump? SJWs? I'm not a neo-liberal and i don't really identify much with the cause of identity politics (ie: SJWs).It almost seems too easy for leftists to blame racism and bigotry to detract from their own failings.Maybe if you started using rational thought in response to knee jerk emotional reaction you'd have more success bringing people to your cause, lol.In my eyes, the rise of right wing populism is based on xenophobia, bigotry and racism. My response is not really a knee jerk reaction, its literally trump in the US, UKIP and others with Brexit and now other european nations. The central theme seems to be to keep out foreigners...
The rise of right wing populism is due to the rise of the social democratic left, and it's perceived power in society.
You can say that it's a response to the left and in some ways that may be true but the more likely case is that some folks became scared of people who look different.I wonder why Merkel hates Germany so muchMaybe because Germany hates Germany.[close]
Hold on there, you just activated my trap card, "Check yourself before you rek yourself". When an opponent tries to distance themselves from identity politics, remind them that they blamed the rise of the populist right on racism and xenophobia, which is basically identity politics.
It also allows me to draw 2 more cards.
However that being said, i'm not going to ignore identity politics when it is relevant, such as the case with Donald Trump. The Muslim ban is racist, it's targeting a specific group of people with a specific religion different to ours. The ban contradicts itself because saudi arabia is mysteriously nowhere to be found on the list (15 of the 19 planners of 9/11 were saudis) while Iraq which has never caused a single terror attack against the united states just so happens to be on the list.
You could've ended it after your first paragraph and I would have been more or less like "Fair Enough", even though you never explained why everyone (especially the working class you communists love) suddenly decided to be xenophobic and racist. But then ya fucked up.
Your first mistake is CNN
Your second mistake is that Islam is not a race, therefore it literally cannot be racist. For example, if I were to found a Death Cult in which we worshipped Shia Labeouf and partook in Human Sacrifices, and our religion was subsequently banned from the United States, it wouldn't be racist as we would be a religion not a race. I'm guessing when you say Muslim you mean Arabs, but referring to Arabs as Muslims is far from politically correct to the point it could actually be racist, as you are saying that all Arabs are Muslim, and nobody else besides Arabs can be muslim.
Your third mistake is saying that it is a Muslim Ban, which it's not. Referring to it as a Muslim ban is purposefully misleading in a number of ways. The first of which, you make it sound like Islam itself is banned in the United States, which it is definitely not. Secondly, it is a ban on a number of countries identified by the Obama Administration as sources of terror. My guess is that the list was compiled by data from Terror attacks around the world, and not just America, so the nationality of terrorists who have committed terror attacks on American soil might not necessarily reflect the nationality of a majority of terrorists worldwide. But of course, I know the left likes to shy away from statistics and data when it comes to Terrorism.
Your last mistake is bringing up the nationalities of the terrorists from countries we haven't banned, and I am still not entirely sure why the hell you would do that. Are you trying to argue that we should ban more countries? Bringing them up is literally an argument to ban MORE countries. It is definitely not an argument against the ban. You call it the ban contradicting itself, I call it Trump being soft. It shocks me that you wanted him to be tougher.
Conclusion: Even "when relevant", Identity Politics is still stupid.
I will then play two cards face down and end my turn.SpoilerI'm attacking you directly for 500 lifepoints.I know this isn't super relevent to our discussion but it's worth noting that a majority of the working class did not vote for trump. 241 million people can vote. Cut out 1 million for the bougie folks, trump got about 62 million votes. That's about 38%. I know my math is off a bit but that's a general area of the percentage.SpoilerYou could've ended it after your first paragraph and I would have been more or less like "Fair Enough", even though you never explained why everyone (especially the working class you communists love) suddenly decided to be xenophobic and racist. But then ya fucked up.[close]wotSpoilerYour first mistake is CNN[close]I get that Islam is not a race...however the predominate population within the banned countries are Arab Muslims. It is racist because it is targeting people of a particular race that just so happens to have their own dominate religion. So he's not JUST racist, he's also Islamophobic and Xenophobic. I hate having to throw these words around because i don't think that form of disourse is particularly effective but in the case of Trump where is so blatant, so obvious, it's honestly disgusting, I make the exception because I genuinely believe it's true.SpoilerYour second mistake is that Islam is not a race, therefore it literally cannot be racist. For example, if I were to found a Death Cult in which we worshipped Shia Labeouf and partook in Human Sacrifices, and our religion was subsequently banned from the United States, it wouldn't be racist as we would be a religion not a race. I'm guessing when you say Muslim you mean Arabs, but referring to Arabs as Muslims is far from politically correct to the point it could actually be racist, as you are saying that all Arabs are Muslim, and nobody else besides Arabs can be muslim.[close]I call it a Muslim ban because it's mostly Arab Muslims who are being banned...maybe it's misleading, but whatever. Okay, so it's about terror statistics then...what exactly are we scared of? A terror attack that we have no evidence will happen? These "terror" attacks are mostly happening on their own soil because they are in active civil wars which we are at least partially responsible for.SpoilerYour third mistake is saying that it is a Muslim Ban, which it's not. Referring to it as a Muslim ban is purposefully misleading in a number of ways. The first of which, you make it sound like Islam itself is banned in the United States, which it is definitely not. Secondly, it is a ban on a number of countries identified by the Obama Administration as sources of terror. My guess is that the list was compiled by data from Terror attacks around the world, and not just America, so the nationality of terrorists who have committed terror attacks on American soil might not necessarily reflect the nationality of a majority of terrorists worldwide. But of course, I know the left likes to shy away from statistics and data when it comes to Terrorism.[close]The point of the ban is to protect AMERICANS. So it's relevant to bring up evidence that suggest certain people of certain nationalities may be more harmful than others, hints the nationalities of prior attacks. If we were to go by that logic, saudi arabia seems very unfriendly towards americans and should really be at the top of trump's list. I am in no way advocating a larger ban or any ban at all, i'm simply pointing out that this ban is pointless...it serves no purpose if he cannot provide any evidence that the nations or people within the nations that he banned had any reason to attack us which he cannot provide.SpoilerYour last mistake is bringing up the nationalities of the terrorists from countries we haven't banned, and I am still not entirely sure why the hell you would do that. Are you trying to argue that we should ban more countries? Bringing them up is literally an argument to ban MORE countries. It is definitely not an argument against the ban. You call it the ban contradicting itself, I call it Trump being soft. It shocks me that you wanted him to be tougher.[close][close]
Why do French Elections always seem to be solely about personal issues?
If you're gonna discuss Trump's wall and his foreign policy, don't do that here. You have the US politics thread for that.
Now back on topic, it's really interesting to note the amount of scandals coming of ex-Sarkozy supporters. I wonder if Fillon will hold.
If you're gonna discuss Trump's wall and his foreign policy, don't do that here. You have the US politics thread for that.
Now back on topic, it's really interesting to note the amount of scandals coming of ex-Sarkozy supporters. I wonder if Fillon will hold.
If you're gonna discuss Trump's wall and his foreign policy, don't do that here. You have the US politics thread for that.
Now back on topic, it's really interesting to note the amount of scandals coming of ex-Sarkozy supporters. I wonder if Fillon will hold.
Discuss: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-08/germanys-muslim-demographic-futureI'll take the bait
I hate how both the right wing extrememists and the left wing extrememists completely stop any serious discussion about the problems that Islam has :(
true :( Tbh I think we are pretty much fucked. Radical lefties in charge led to people turning to radical right groups and both are severly retarded.I hate how both the right wing extrememists and the left wing extrememists completely stop any serious discussion about the problems that Islam has :(
Tbf, that is very much the case in all modern day problems and debates.
I can assure you that no radical leftists are "in charge" even though i wish it were true.Well, the SJW/Antifa crap is part of the radical left, or atleast they hijacked it. And they control campuses as far as im aware.
Radical lefties in charge led to people turning to radical right groups and both are severly retarded.I'm just trying to figure out what radical leftists you're referring to.
The radical left controls university campuses. As a university student in North America you must realize that
The radical left controls university campuses. As a university student in North America you must realize thatThey don't 'control' universities, they just have influence there.
Well when you surround yourself in an environment filled with professors and staff who constantly reinforce a leftist worldview for 4 years and you don't make an effort to research differing ideologies, then yeah, you essentially become indoctrinated through social pressure. This isn't necessarily exclusive to leftist views, it can happen in pretty much any community where everyone is conservative, liberal, etc. it's just that college campuses are overwhelmingly leftist (This study says that the ratio of registered Democrats to Republicans among University professors is 11.5:1 http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/6/liberal-professors-outnumber-conservatives-12-1/ ). This is a very simple concept I don't see how anyone can't understand thisThe radical left controls university campuses. As a university student in North America you must realize that
What does this 'control' even mean?
Well when you surround yourself in an environment filled with professors and staff who constantly reinforce a leftist worldview for 4 years and you don't make an effort to research differing ideologies, then yeah, you essentially become indoctrinated through social pressure. This isn't necessarily exclusive to leftist views, it can happen in pretty much any community where everyone is conservative, liberal, etc. it's just that college campuses are overwhelmingly leftist (This study says that the ratio of registered Democrats to Republicans among University professors is 11.5:1 http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/6/liberal-professors-outnumber-conservatives-12-1/ ). This is a very simple concept I don't see how anyone can't understand thisThe radical left controls university campuses. As a university student in North America you must realize that
What does this 'control' even mean?
Certainly, there is a leftist trend in universities, but from what I have experienced, have heard, seen and read, there is no actual political agenda, or any matter of control.
The leftist trend might be the case in the US, but it currently is not by any means in Europe.L M A O
The leftist trend might be the case in the US, but it currently is not by any means in Europe.
It certainly wasn't organized by the professors. So how did this come about?
'They control campuses'. What is that even supposed to mean?You can savely say that left tendencies have been in charge of the agenda setting in most of western society. And Campuses are mostly politically left, look at student movements and most professors. In Germany a mathematics prof was fired because he let his students calculate how likely it is that a terrorist is also a muslim.
How are SJWs and ANTIFA in anyway in a position of actual power? Remember, you said this,QuoteRadical lefties in charge led to people turning to radical right groups and both are severly retarded.I'm just trying to figure out what radical leftists you're referring to.
Also, they don't really 'control' campuses, they have influence in a few campuses. Just because ANTIFA made a big stand at UC Berkeley doesn't mean that radical leftists control all college campuses, that's just ridiculous.
In addition, as a leftist yourself, would you agree with this statement?Spoiler(https://scontent.ford1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16299172_1249810258445716_3515009147934957555_n.jpg?oh=182c16014bafe3bb06f54281d920cefc&oe=59054410)[close]
The radical left controls university campuses. As a university student in North America you must realize thatThey don't 'control' universities, they just have influence there.
Oh dear god, opinions and ideas different from your own!? That must be fucking awful. Poor conservatives, having to listen to these stupid fucking feminists and socialists with their "equality" nonsense. You must really be having a hard time theo :(
Perhaps it has more to do with knowledge regarding how thinks actually work, rather than political ideologies. Certainly, there is a leftist trend in universities, but from what I have experienced, have heard, seen and read, there is no actual political agenda, or any matter of control. It is more a matter of transferring facts, something that the rigth and most notably the conservatives are known for.
The reason why most Professors in the US rather vote Democrat than Republican, is because those Professors are Scientists. And Scientist like to believe that evolution exist and stuff. So they are more likely to vote Democrat than Republican, because as we know Republicans hate Science, because JESUUUUUUUS and OIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!...
If I were a Scientist in the US and I had to choose between someone who will cut all my funding and between someone who will not necessarily increase it, but at least keep it more or less the same, I obviously choose the 2nd one.
But lets face it. Probably just the DNC and George Soros sending "donations" to all of the universities across the western world.
Nobody is even talking about social studies.
Its amazing how the Frankfurt School keeps triggering right wingers to this day.
>putting real professors in the same boat as social studies professors
Well, a lot of people now days take stupid uni courses like Religious Studies, Gender Studies and shit like that. They are bound to produce leftist thoughts simply because of the very natures of courses in contrast with right-wing ideals. Useless courses, but its what people take. Actual scientist are left leaning generally because conservative governments only care about science so long as they don't contradict the policy of their government. Trump clamping down on climate change is an example of this. If you're a professional on the subject, and you can clearly see the evidence of evolution or climate change. Why would you actively support a political party who refuses to accept these facts so as to not anger their constituents?
But lets face it. Probably just the DNC and George Soros sending "donations" to all of the universities across the western world.
1. Your definition of useful is loaded and completely uneducated.>putting real professors in the same boat as social studies professors
I am assuming that most Professors actually do something useful. You know, Physics, Math, History and stuff.Well, a lot of people now days take stupid uni courses like Religious Studies, Gender Studies and shit like that. They are bound to produce leftist thoughts simply because of the very natures of courses in contrast with right-wing ideals. Useless courses, but its what people take. Actual scientist are left leaning generally because conservative governments only care about science so long as they don't contradict the policy of their government. Trump clamping down on climate change is an example of this. If you're a professional on the subject, and you can clearly see the evidence of evolution or climate change. Why would you actively support a political party who refuses to accept these facts so as to not anger their constituents?
But lets face it. Probably just the DNC and George Soros sending "donations" to all of the universities across the western world.
Are they really? I know that at the local universities here, there are way to many people studying business/economy and stuff like that and way to few people studying anything actual sciency. A lot of people are afraid of Mathematics. Not saying economy is not science, but you get what I mean. Everyone is studying something business related and engineers and scientists are struggling to find replacements.
Overall, there are to many students, the universities are overflowing and a lot of jobs that do not require any higher education do not find enough workers. (I guess that's where refugees are supposed to step in or something, I don't know)
I am exaggerating ofc, its not all that bad, but this is where the current trend is leading to anyway.
You can savely say that left tendencies have been in charge of the agenda setting in most of western society. And Campuses are mostly politically left, look at student movements and most professors. In Germany a mathematics prof was fired because he let his students calculate how likely it is that a terrorist is also a muslim.As a student at a German university I can promise you there are most certainly right wing student movements and clubs. At my University there are at least 2 that are known for being right wing (not extremist, just very conservative) and 1 more is being rumoured to be too. I have to agree that there are more left leaning organisations around, though.
Again, those groups (or lesser groups) are (in my subjective view) in charge of agenda setting, or atleast the public media output follows a "left" mainstream. Since we are on a international forum this is hard to proof for all countries, so I can only talk about German media. For example, media outlets were asked to not talk about the heritage if they reported any sort of crime related to immigrants.Who asked the media to not publish heritage? Leftist extremists? Certainly not. It was probably the government to prevent any more right wing hate crimes like there have been a ton of in Saxony with the refugee camp burnings.
This, again, is NOT the case for all media outlets. You can see tendencys though.
There is a difference between actually discussing different opinions (wich is sometimes happening here) and outright refusing to listen to someone because you assume you have the moral highground(wich is happening here most of the time, from BOTH sides).Unlike you most right wing people are brainwashed into oblivion and refuse to listen to any arguments. I very rarely encounter left wing extremists on the internet but they are the same, I guess the internet is just an outlet for all the hate people don't dare to let lose in public.
I know its a shitty personal experience argument, but every time I try to talk about the problems that occur with bringing over a million immigrants into your country in less then 2 years I get called a nazi or im being "intolerant".That is unfortunately a very German problem, undoubtedly fueled by our past. Yes there are problems with the way the situation was handled, but I am proud of our chancellor, that she as the only western leader stood up for the principles, morals and values the EU stands for. Sure we could have closed our doors and not let people in, after all it's not our problem if they all die in their puny conflict down there, right? But that goes against everything we have been trying to achieve in Europe for the past 70 years.
Yeah sure, the left is just more intelligent than the right! Not like the left EVER ignores facts right?! *stares at obvious issues with mass immigration* ::)Look at the the people who vote AfD and march with Pegida and you have your answer.
1. Your definition of useful is loaded and completely uneducated.
2. You're ignoring a significant number of professors.
3. Either European universities are completely different than North American ones, your perspective sucks, or you're just completely mislead.
Could you give me links to these "tons" of camp burnings? I heard of Freital, but I wasnt aware of any others.http://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/auflistung-der-regierung-in-nrw-und-sachsen-gab-es-die-meisten-angriffe-auf-fluechtlingsheime/12955304.html
It was the goverment that told them to not publish heritage yes, but I still think it A: happened out of tendencies to protect ones own agenda and B: its not helping any actual public discussion about the topic.
Towards your bigger wall of text: I do not disagree with that. But I do believe that most of the people that came into our country are NOT infact fleeing from Muslim oppression or war but simply come here due it being a better style of living.
"Look at the the people who vote AfD and march with Pegida and you have your answer."
Look at the Amadeus Antonio Stiftung and Islam Apologists and you have the same.
My point is, extremists on both sides are shit, ad hominems are shit, lets look at facts instead:
Islam is homophobic.Yes, so is Christianity, but through internal reforms tolerance to homosexuals is starting to rise in the churches (especially in the Protestant churches).
Islam is sexist.So is Christianity. Yet again the religion is trying to reform that.
Islam is not in line with our basic rights.By your logic neither is Christianity. Should all Christians be deported then? I hope you see the logical fallacy here in your argument.
Many Immigrants are from radical muslim countries AND believe in Islam and the teachings of the KoranAs long as these immigrants do not break the law while practising their religion they are allowed to keep their opinions and religion, that is part of our Grundgesetz (Basic Law for the Federal Republic of Germany), you know that. Your personal opinion whether or not Muslims belong to Germany is irrelevant in that matter.
>those people should not live here.
QuoteIslam is homophobic.Yes, so is Christianity, but through internal reforms tolerance to homosexuals is starting to rise in the churches (especially in the Protestant churches).
Hadhod we are not really disagreeing are we? You are simply raising the point that Christianity is also bad(wich I agree with, while also stating that most Christians dont really practice their religion) and that we shouldnt blame people for trying to improve their condition of life. Still, dont disagree with that.Then I must have articulated myself wrongly here. I didn't say Christianity is bad, I stated that parts of the Christian believes are outdated (thus bad) and should therefore be reformed (like the anti homosexual part you mentioned).
"Islam is homophobic!" "Yea, but protestantism is reforming though!" watI should have probably quoted if altogether to make for easier formatting. With those comments I was trying to say that Christianity and its values (whatever you may think of it) is/are an integral part even of today's western society despite being old. That is because it was reformed time and time again. Islam needs these reforms too or in the long run western ideology and Islam will not be able to coexist.
You should inform yourself about the Amadeus Antonio Stiftung, its led by an Ex Stasi Member is basically the tip of the cancer berg that is radical SJW´s :^)They must be rather small to never make it into any news or talks I have read and had over the past years.
how is he a stormfag? watBut lets face it. Probably just the DNC and George Soros sending "donations" to all of the universities across the western world.Spoiler(https://i.imgur.com/BB8wm2W.png)
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Life isn't a videogame, stormfag. Soros is not the big meanie at the end.
Soros' little buddy was handpicked by Trump to effectively be in-charge of US Gov revenue.
how is he a stormfag? watBut lets face it. Probably just the DNC and George Soros sending "donations" to all of the universities across the western world.Spoiler(https://i.imgur.com/BB8wm2W.png)
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Life isn't a videogame, stormfag. Soros is not the big meanie at the end.
Soros' little buddy was handpicked by Trump to effectively be in-charge of US Gov revenue.
exdeehow is he a stormfag? watBut lets face it. Probably just the DNC and George Soros sending "donations" to all of the universities across the western world.Spoiler(https://i.imgur.com/BB8wm2W.png)
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Life isn't a videogame, stormfag. Soros is not the big meanie at the end.
Soros' little buddy was handpicked by Trump to effectively be in-charge of US Gov revenue.Spoiler(https://i.imgur.com/BAGkEIP.jpg)
Bottom-most book is an actual copy of Mein Kampf btw.[close]
Apparently Trump is a fascistI don't get it?
I'm disappointed. Apparently Trump is a fascist but we haven't sent out the death squads or burned any books yet.I've been sitting here with my Hitler Youth uniform, Art Of The Deal, and MAGA hat for a while. When're you invading Canada? I'm getting impatient.
Starting to regret my vote :'( woulda been nice to burn required reading for class cause its evil.
soon... make sure your fashy goy haircut is in regsI'm disappointed. Apparently Trump is a fascist but we haven't sent out the death squads or burned any books yet.I've been sitting here with my Hitler Youth uniform, Art Of The Deal, and MAGA hat for a while. When're you invading Canada? I'm getting impatient.
Starting to regret my vote :'( woulda been nice to burn required reading for class cause its evil.
If you kill your enemies they win, so joke is on the US if it invades Canada.We're gonna go all 1812 on their asses
If you kill your enemies they win, so joke is on the US if it invades Canada.We're gonna go all 1812 on their asses
And the EU is jsut here to sit back, relax and enjoy the comedy.
It violates Due Process and Equal Protection under the constitution.Just curious, where does the American Constitution extend to foreign nationals who aren't even in our country and therefore have no protections from the American Constitution? I would think no where because the American constitution applies to people within the United States only. Although it's something else to say that America apparently claims the entire world as it's own? I guess the Illuminati plot to enslave us goes deeper than I thought
Essentially why this violates these two things is because the people within the banned countries did not commit a crime against the united states (maybe a few individuals but not the general populous) and therefore do not deserve repercussions as a result. There are various other legal arguments that you can approach from, all a little different from each other, yet they all seem to stem from Due Process and Equal Protection. I don't pretend to be a lawyer but I am a poli-sci major which is typically seen as a prerequisite to law. The simple fact that the courts denied trump's EO just proves my point.
It would have cost any politician's their career had they done something like this.Yes, enjoy your comedy as Europe destroys itself with dindu nuffin arabs protected by the left and the MSM but yes, lecture us on how we are sheep for wanting to control who comes into our country and actually trying to address the problem that is Radical Islamic Terrorism and its implications
Looks like the Americans really did become sheep. And the EU is jsut here to sit back, relax and enjoy the comedy.
Fuckin right wingers always go on about how they want to protect the constitution cuz 'muh rights are bein violated' yet have no idea what the constitution actually fucking says. It says a lot more than just 'freedom of speech' and 'muh guns.'
And the EU is jsut here to sit back, relax and enjoy the comedy.
Doesn't the Constitution also grant to freedom of religion? Isn't targeting one specific religion or prioritizing one over another a breach of that? The ban on refugees is stupid anyways. Not one single refugee has committed an act of terror. Meanwhile people continue to die in Syria while the alt-right works to send refugees back into the war zone.
Meanwhile people continue to die in Syria while the alt-right works to send refugees back into the war zone.
He has stated that Christians will be given priority which would? be violating freedom of religion as he is taking them over others rather then providing equal treatment. I'll agree enough to say its not a strict ban on Muslims. It is however tied up in the same rhetoric.Doesn't the Constitution also grant to freedom of religion? Isn't targeting one specific religion or prioritizing one over another a breach of that? The ban on refugees is stupid anyways. Not one single refugee has committed an act of terror. Meanwhile people continue to die in Syria while the alt-right works to send refugees back into the war zone.
It certainly does... except this isn't targeting a religion, it's targeting countries riddled with home grown terrorism. There are tons more of Muslim countries, and while no attacks have taken place recently caused by terrorists from the banned countries there have been plenty of arrests based on grounds of planned terrorism.Meanwhile people continue to die in Syria while the alt-right works to send refugees back into the war zone.
You don't need to travel across a fucking ocean to escape the danger of ISIS, who are terrorists fighting for control of the middle east. I'd understand if T-1000 was after them, but you're being plain naive if you don't question the motives of them traveling so far, especially to a country which was founded on ideals the exact opposite of that of America.
He has stated that Christians will be given priority which would?
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The whole prospect behind refugees it that they are fleeing away from a conflict or persecution to find a better life.
It's far to out there of an idea to think that they are leaving the middle east because to specifically enact terrorism against the U.S. People are not risking their lives in crossing the Mediterranean to blow up a church.
That's why Irish people fled to to the U.S rather then France. That's why Jews fled to the U.S rather then France if they were given the chance. If your life is shit, try to find the best one you can.
If your life is shit, try to find the best one you can.
That paragraph is a mine of hypocrisy. There's a lot of random fluff added in, but I'll pick out the highlights:I'm not comparing the situation in Syria to the holocaust. Real way to takes things to the next level by taking what I said to new levels. I'm comparing why people fled in response to the insinuation that they were coming to America to do harm. Which isn't the case, for the refugees at least. There has only been about 75 arrests made against refugees since 9/11. I wasn't saying if the Christians were in more or less danger. It's without a doubt that they are in more. I was debating the legality of specifically accepting Christian's above people in equal danger. The U.S currently has far from an open door policy concerning the middle east. The vetting is already insane. I don't think it should be everyone allowed in. But saying no completely isn't a good idea either. As for the last comment of your concerning government policies, I don't know where I gave praise for abusing government handouts. I was stating why they were inclined to come to the U.S over other countries.He has stated that Christians will be given priority which would?
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The whole prospect behind refugees it that they are fleeing away from a conflict or persecution to find a better life.
Exactly, it's the CHRISTIANS that are facing conflict directed at them and are being persecuted, not typical Islamic refugees from Africa (or the stray Muslim from Syria). Christians are the ones who are being marched through towns and having their buses and transport stormed and cleansed.
It's safe to safe ISIS are killing everyone and anyone regardless of their creed, but there are many groups operating in the middle east and those selecting their targets do generally seem to be specifically going after Christians. Christians make the most legitimate refugees, and I can understand why Trump is willing to let them in. They will be much easier to integrate into society, also.It's far to out there of an idea to think that they are leaving the middle east because to specifically enact terrorism against the U.S. People are not risking their lives in crossing the Mediterranean to blow up a church.
You deploying the "they're coming here for safety!" rhetoric isn't exactly valid speculation behind their motive, either. The Trump administration's ability to recognise that the majority of refugees may be coming to America for things such as the living conditions offered as a result of the sympathetic outlook of refugee status should not be criticized but applauded - we've seen what damage the open door policy can do when enacted by governments too cowardly to address or even slightly vet anyone claiming to be a refugee (like what's going on in your beloved Europe).That's why Irish people fled to to the U.S rather then France. That's why Jews fled to the U.S rather then France if they were given the chance. If your life is shit, try to find the best one you can.
The ideology of the Irish and Jewish is a hell of a lot different than that of a Muslim. Are you really comparing the refugee crisis to the holocaust? Jesus Christ, tone down the rhetoric and start being rational, please.If your life is shit, try to find the best one you can.
Nice to see you being so tolerant of people abusing poorly designed government policies when they're a creation of the left. Instead of being angry at your government you choose to applaud these "clever" men, "good job getting a better life living off the fruits of the tax payer's labour!"
You're a fucking terrible socialist.
Christians make the most legitimate refugees, and I can understand why Trump is willing to let them in. They will be much easier to integrate into society, also.
It certainly does... except this isn't targeting a religion
I wasn't saying if the Christians were in more or less danger. 1) It's without a doubt that they are in more. 2) I was debating the legality of specifically accepting Christian's above people in equal danger.
I was debating the legality of specifically accepting Christian's above people in equal danger.
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
So you're saying...it isn't targetting a specific religion...but at the same time certain people from certain religions are/should be exempt? Mind elaborating on that?
But Rick, taking in one person above another based on his religious orientation is infringing on the separation of state and religion. It means that the government favors one faith over another.
Trump probably doesn't give to fucks about the Christians over there. Any money its just to appeal to the largely Christian Republican voting demographic but then again, its not like any other president did things better.
But Rick,
I got a decent chuckle from that ;)But Rick,
Don't make this personal, I'm sure we could share some politically incorrect banter about immigration over a pint. Maybe one day.
Fact is that Trump's ban bans people from countries whose nationals have not killed an American citizen in a terrorist attack since, I think, 1975. Anyway, it's a badly written executive order as it is unclear and ambigious. Executive agencies had no real clear idea what they were supposed to and foreign governments had no idea whether it could apply to their immigrant citizen.
Tl;dr, deciding whether it's unconstitutional is not really up to us.
Deciding whether it's morally right of course is.
What pains me the most is that apparantly, allowing people that worked as translators for the US Armed Forces into the country is 'detrimental to the interests of the United States'. Why did his order not make an exception to this? Why are people who endanger the lives of themselves and their families a danger to the United States? This just feels like plain injustice, and even if you do not agree with that, then consider the fact that not harbouring these people if their lives are in danger will make it very hard for the US to find new translators or other local support.
You've actually always been "Commie Conway" in my mind, Conway was in fact a nickname. You deserve better, let me think on it.Pls, no Commie. Centre-Left at a worst. I'm completely centrist concerning Canadian politics. I'd make an edgy fascist joke but I genuinely don't know if you'd object ;)
As for my name, I reeee internally whenever someone calls me "RickPerry", so thanks for not doing that at least. I actually often forget I'm even called GovernorRickPerry sometimes; he was the original extremist rightwinger, but the media was actually smart and ignored him. He's a bit of an old meme now tbh.
Pls, no Commie. Centre-Left at a worst. I'm completely centrist concerning Canadian politics. I'd make an edgy fascist joke but I genuinely don't know if you'd object ;)
The fact that they fought the communists displays in itself the inherit flaws of fascism. The high command knew it would be a stretch but the risks didn't matter. Things might have been ok if he didn't lose his mind from 1940 onwards.Pls, no Commie. Centre-Left at a worst. I'm completely centrist concerning Canadian politics. I'd make an edgy fascist joke but I genuinely don't know if you'd object ;)
Hey, I'm no fascist but you can't knock it; it worked perfectly fine for the Nazis, and only failed because of the Communists ;D
imblying gommies should not be killed at all costsThe fact that they fought the communists displays in itself the inherit flaws of fascism. The high command knew it would be a stretch but the risks didn't matter. Things might have been ok if he didn't lose his mind from 1940 onwards.Pls, no Commie. Centre-Left at a worst. I'm completely centrist concerning Canadian politics. I'd make an edgy fascist joke but I genuinely don't know if you'd object ;)
Hey, I'm no fascist but you can't knock it; it worked perfectly fine for the Nazis, and only failed because of the Communists ;D
Yes, enjoy your comedy as Europe destroys itself with dindu nuffin arabs protected by the left and the MSM but yes, lecture us on how we are sheep for wanting to control who comes into our country and actually trying to address the problem that is Radical Islamic Terrorism and its implications
Although letting the 9th Circuit Court decide - a liberal court governing a massive liberal majority - should CERTAINLY not decide either.
However, no part of the law even politely asks a judge for his opinion on the matter. It leaves the decision up to the PRESIDENT.
Since "Merkled opened the doors" (Which she did not btw... The law was already there,) nothing has changed for me... I have not seen any difference. Most people still talk German, the infrastructure has not collapsed, public schools still function, the military and police still have a budget, the courts still function, there have been no real terrorist attacks (Unless you count 2 random dudes with a machete and a dude with a truck as major terrorist attack...), there are not 1000000 million of refugees roaming the streets, women can still go out at night without getting robbed, stabbed or raped...https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1_rNT3k2ZXB-f9z-2nSFMIBQKXCs&hl=en_US&ll=51.36119443931468%2C6.969721633496192&z=6
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In response to riddlez:
Yeah, I was thinking the same. There are like a billion gun murders every day in the US. There are huge gang wars and entire city blocks owned by gangs. There are city blocks that a non-gang member should not visit and the US has a huge drug problem and has way to much debt to be believable. (Sure I am exaggerating, it is not like that everywhere, but still, you know it is at least partly true) Yet the US people think that refugees are killing Europe, where practically none of the shit noted above is happening.
Yet the US people think that refugees are killing Europe, where practically none of the shit noted above is happening.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1_rNT3k2ZXB-f9z-2nSFMIBQKXCs&hl=en_US&ll=51.36119443931468%2C6.969721633496192&z=6
Yet the US people think that refugees are killing Europe, where practically none of the shit noted above is happening.
They're certainly killing the tourism industry, especially in places like France and Turkey. And again in France they are quite literally roaming the streets and making a mess.
Yet the US people think that refugees are killing Europe, where practically none of the shit noted above is happening.
They're certainly killing the tourism industry, especially in places like France and Turkey. And again in France they are quite literally roaming the streets and making a mess.
What ? I suppose after all Fox News knows better about my country than myself
Carabino, whenever you post here it's always some rhetoric about Fox News that has little to no relevance to the current discussion. Grow the fuck up
Yet the US people think that refugees are killing Europe, where practically none of the shit noted above is happening.
They're certainly killing the tourism industry, especially in places like France and Turkey. And again in France they are quite literally roaming the streets and making a mess.
What ? I suppose after all Fox News knows better about my country than myself
shut up and give money whiteySpoilerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb3rNkkCAJY[close]
The fact the office of President, the head of the executive branch, can appoint members of the supreme court, members of the judiciary branch, already shows that Checks and Balances in the US is a damn joke.
This may be one of the most cucked things I've ever seen. I legitimately feel bad for you and hope that you continue to live in peaceful blissful ignorance for the rest of your life. I sincerely hope that this was a bait for the sake of all Europe
Yes, enjoy your comedy as Europe destroys itself with dindu nuffin arabs protected by the left and the MSM but yes, lecture us on how we are sheep for wanting to control who comes into our country and actually trying to address the problem that is Radical Islamic Terrorism and its implications
funny you bring that up. Somehow terrorism gets all the attention nowadays. Stll it's no more or less a factual problem than it was 10 years ago - when immigration wasn't an item, an defense budget cuts were massively happening throughout Europe.
The anti-terrorism campaign and the 'radical islam problem' is no more than fearmongering. Terrorism ahsn't ever, is currently not and probably won't ever be an actual threat to the stability of Western countries. I'll start worrying when something like that kills more people than traffic accidents.SpoilerOh wait. Guns do in the US. Makes one think, doesn't it?[close]
But it isn't going to destroy the system. It's just going to cost some money.
Money that simply isn't there.Gotta disagree there. Its just not being spent properly. The current German administration is doing the so called "Schwarze Null", meaning they are trying to spent the least possible amount of money, wich not only hurts immigration but also infrastructure and such.
But it isn't going to destroy the system. It's just going to cost some money.
You're probably the least qualified person on this thread to make such a bold statement. Do you honestly ever learn?
This may be one of the most cucked things I've ever seen. I legitimately feel bad for you and hope that you continue to live in peaceful blissful ignorance for the rest of your life. I sincerely hope that this was a bait for the sake of all Europe
Yes, enjoy your comedy as Europe destroys itself with dindu nuffin arabs protected by the left and the MSM but yes, lecture us on how we are sheep for wanting to control who comes into our country and actually trying to address the problem that is Radical Islamic Terrorism and its implications
funny you bring that up. Somehow terrorism gets all the attention nowadays. Stll it's no more or less a factual problem than it was 10 years ago - when immigration wasn't an item, an defense budget cuts were massively happening throughout Europe.
The anti-terrorism campaign and the 'radical islam problem' is no more than fearmongering. Terrorism ahsn't ever, is currently not and probably won't ever be an actual threat to the stability of Western countries. I'll start worrying when something like that kills more people than traffic accidents.SpoilerOh wait. Guns do in the US. Makes one think, doesn't it?[close]
Terrorism is on a all-time-low in Europe, though. Political terrorism was more active and and more deadly in the seventies and eighties. Can immigration or radical islam lead to problems that we must overcome? Yeah, sure. But it isn't going to destroy the system. It's just going to cost some money.
I also read that your current PM won't work with Wilders. True?
My experience was the complete opposite - we cancel out :DThe fuckers shot fireworks at the hotel windows. Although one Muslims man who constantly kept getting me as if for the first time when I passed him started to creep me out. We was a little to into selling me a print. The fucking gypsies in Brussels where the worst experience though. Where were you when you got spooked by the mooslims?
. We noticed, though, that the closer we got to soldiers, the less the buskers pushed.
Hell, Capitol Hill seemed less guarded than the Eiffel Tower
The Eiffel Tower. So many illegal buskers, aggressively pushing wares on any timid looking English family. We noticed, though, that the closer we got to soldiers, the less the buskers pushed. A pair of them grabbed me and fast talked their way into (basically) mugging my dad.
Apart from that, the sheer amount of soldiers on the streets made us feel fairly safe.
Hell, Capitol Hill seemed less guarded than the Eiffel Tower
Some people are of the opinion that the most succesfull security operations require only a few actual bodies on-site.
Source? Post shooting the security is streamlined and more forcefulI think they probably just ramped up guards and surveillance. Nortre-Dame has military patrols with assault rifles. The most you see at parliament is pistols.
I read somewhere that SMG's were being deployed on-site.Source? Post shooting the security is streamlined and more forcefulI think they probably just ramped up guards and surveillance. Nortre-Dame has military patrols with assault rifles. The most you see at parliament is pistols.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1_viPSD-bY
Except it wasn't a terrorist attack and it wasn't on friday.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1_viPSD-bY
"Let's talk about Swedish issues so we can all forget that our president is an idiot" - American People
Except it wasn't a terrorist attack and it wasn't on friday.
"Let's talk about Swedish issues so we can all forget that our president is an idiot" - American People
EU is trash and needs a reform but it's still better than no EU.
I agree on the EU thing with Furrnox because im German :D
Besides that, saying that Trump meant Terror Attacks specifically is a bit....odd.
"Look at Germany, look what's happening, or what happend last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this. Sweden. They took in large numbers. They're having problems like they never thought possible. You look at what's happening in Brussels. You look at what's happening all over the world. Take a look at Nice. Take a look at Paris."
I mean call me retarded but to me it just sounds like he comments on the increased crime rate and the constant raping cases happening in sweden.
Except it wasn't a terrorist attack and it wasn't on friday.
"Let's talk about Swedish issues so we can all forget that our president is an idiot" - American People
Hahaha, God forbid anyone critize your beloved Trump. I think by even trying to defend some of Trumps worst choices you're really just showing us to what extent you'll blindly defend your failing project.
*something something I pretend to be sitting on the fence so nobody can insult me*Except it wasn't a terrorist attack and it wasn't on friday.God forbid anyone critize your beloved EU. I think by even trying to defend some of the EU's worst choices of 2016 you're really just showing us to what extent you'll blindly defend your failing project.
"Let's talk about Swedish issues so we can all forget that our president is an idiot" - American People
I think that saying Trump is fool is just wrong.I see where you're coming from. It seems like he's picking most of his cabinet members based off their loyalty or ideological alignment rather then experience or knowledge on their jurisdiction. That would show hes smarter then what people say. I don't think he'll be an effective President as in he makes the country better long term, I think he'll leave a total mess like Bush did but people will say hes doing a great job while hes in office.
Reality is not a Forrest Gump movie. You don't just blunder your way into becoming a billionaire. You don't just blunder your way into becoming president of the United States in a landslide victory.
I think there is a key difference between Trump the persona and Trump the person, and I think that is where Trump's brilliance shows. If you look less at what he says and more at why he says it, you begin to see that. For example, this thing with Sweden and all that. Did something actually really happen in Sweden last night? Not really. But it causes controversy and it brings attention to the issue. He wants that spotlight on Sweden, as it is a great case as to why this travel ban (which he is currently rewriting) is a good thing and he has succeeded in doing that as so many people knee jerked like "REEEE NOTHING HAPPENED IN SWEDEN REEEEEEEE".
Really, when you think about it, a lot of the "outrage" and "controversy" about Trump really ends up helping him, and I think that is completely intentional on Trump's part.
I think that saying Trump is fool is just wrong.I see where you're coming from. It seems like he's picking most of his cabinet members based off their loyalty or ideological alignment rather then experience or knowledge on their jurisdiction. That would show hes smarter then what people say. I don't think he'll be an effective President as in he makes the country better long term, I think he'll leave a total mess like Bush did but people will say hes doing a great job while hes in office.
Reality is not a Forrest Gump movie. You don't just blunder your way into becoming a billionaire. You don't just blunder your way into becoming president of the United States in a landslide victory.
I think there is a key difference between Trump the persona and Trump the person, and I think that is where Trump's brilliance shows. If you look less at what he says and more at why he says it, you begin to see that. For example, this thing with Sweden and all that. Did something actually really happen in Sweden last night? Not really. But it causes controversy and it brings attention to the issue. He wants that spotlight on Sweden, as it is a great case as to why this travel ban (which he is currently rewriting) is a good thing and he has succeeded in doing that as so many people knee jerked like "REEEE NOTHING HAPPENED IN SWEDEN REEEEEEEE".
Really, when you think about it, a lot of the "outrage" and "controversy" about Trump really ends up helping him, and I think that is completely intentional on Trump's part.
Why do I think what? That him going against the interest of the people makes him smart? That's just politics. There is no such thing as a national interest, there's only the interests of its leader. Trump knows the struggles and cares for the PA coal worker like he would a lump of shit on the road where it not for a fact that the coal worker can get him elected. It was brilliant how he targeted PA, MI, WI and OH during the end of the election although I don't know if it was him or advisers who made the suggestion, it worked all the same.I think that saying Trump is fool is just wrong.I see where you're coming from. It seems like he's picking most of his cabinet members based off their loyalty or ideological alignment rather then experience or knowledge on their jurisdiction. That would show hes smarter then what people say. I don't think he'll be an effective President as in he makes the country better long term, I think he'll leave a total mess like Bush did but people will say hes doing a great job while hes in office.
Reality is not a Forrest Gump movie. You don't just blunder your way into becoming a billionaire. You don't just blunder your way into becoming president of the United States in a landslide victory.
I think there is a key difference between Trump the persona and Trump the person, and I think that is where Trump's brilliance shows. If you look less at what he says and more at why he says it, you begin to see that. For example, this thing with Sweden and all that. Did something actually really happen in Sweden last night? Not really. But it causes controversy and it brings attention to the issue. He wants that spotlight on Sweden, as it is a great case as to why this travel ban (which he is currently rewriting) is a good thing and he has succeeded in doing that as so many people knee jerked like "REEEE NOTHING HAPPENED IN SWEDEN REEEEEEEE".
Really, when you think about it, a lot of the "outrage" and "controversy" about Trump really ends up helping him, and I think that is completely intentional on Trump's part.
Why do you think that?
I think that saying Trump is fool is just wrong.that was not a landslide victory. Not even close to it.
Reality is not a Forrest Gump movie. You don't just blunder your way into becoming a billionaire. You don't just blunder your way into becoming president of the United States in a landslide victory.
Yea true, not even for the electoral college given its historyI think that saying Trump is fool is just wrong.that was not a landslide victory. Not even close to it.
Reality is not a Forrest Gump movie. You don't just blunder your way into becoming a billionaire. You don't just blunder your way into becoming president of the United States in a landslide victory.
Yea true, not even for the electoral college given its historyI think that saying Trump is fool is just wrong.that was not a landslide victory. Not even close to it.
Reality is not a Forrest Gump movie. You don't just blunder your way into becoming a billionaire. You don't just blunder your way into becoming president of the United States in a landslide victory.Spoilerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJtskViDg7g[close]
I am guessing Apoc said it to trigger someone, bait someone(yay me) or just wants to make trumps victory sound greater than it was for one reason or another. none of which are really necessary. Unless he believes any victory, however small is a landslide, which makes nearly every election a landslide, which means none of them really were.
Numbers wise it wasn't a landslide. However, predictions/polling wise it was, solely because of the probabilities before the election.I am guessing Apoc said it to trigger someone, bait someone(yay me) or just wants to make trumps victory sound greater than it was for one reason or another. none of which are really necessary. Unless he believes any victory, however small is a landslide, which makes nearly every election a landslide, which means none of them really were.
Trump's win wasn't a landslide but it was more impressive than just about every other US election in modern history, certainly far bigger than Obama's wins in 2012 and 2008. This was a David vs Goliath contest-Trump had just about every disadvantage going yet still came out on top and proved everyone wrong in the process. I think it was the first time ever that the candidate who spent less actually won, and given the US is a plutocracy that's the most significant point to take away.
I am guessing Apoc said it to trigger someone, bait someone(yay me) or just wants to make trumps victory sound greater than it was for one reason or another. none of which are really necessary. Unless he believes any victory, however small is a landslide, which makes nearly every election a landslide, which means none of them really were.
Trump's win wasn't a landslide but it was more impressive than just about every other US election in modern history, certainly far bigger than Obama's wins in 2012 and 2008. This was a David vs Goliath contest-Trump had just about every disadvantage going yet still came out on top and proved everyone wrong in the process. I think it was the first time ever that the candidate who spent less actually won, and given the US is a plutocracy that's the most significant point to take away.
I am guessing Apoc said it to trigger someone, bait someone(yay me) or just wants to make trumps victory sound greater than it was for one reason or another. none of which are really necessary. Unless he believes any victory, however small is a landslide, which makes nearly every election a landslide, which means none of them really were.
Trump's win wasn't a landslide but it was more impressive than just about every other US election in modern history, certainly far bigger than Obama's wins in 2012 and 2008. This was a David vs Goliath contest-Trump had just about every disadvantage going yet still came out on top and proved everyone wrong in the process. I think it was the first time ever that the candidate who spent less actually won, and given the US is a plutocracy that's the most significant point to take away.
(https://i.gyazo.com/ee2f2848c7d9b09a1e691199f2193592.png)It's too late in terms of stopping the hate train from the MSM. They've amplified a statement, twisted it out of context and will proceed to try and crucify him, but just like the real Christ, he will arise to finish his work. It also means he can grow his brand out without tying it to Breitbart, the racist and alt-right haven /s
(my take on the Milo situation)
What happened with milo?
he kinda did defend pedo's though...I cant really tell when you just meme or when you are legit an edgy neo nazi.
Think about how fucked up the world is now that orbiting a fucking gay man is seen as conservative. Just end me now fam
he kinda did defend pedo's though...
how is anything I wrote edgy. I simply pointed out that the symbol of anti traditionalism (the homosexual lifestyle) can now be compatible with conservatismhe kinda did defend pedo's though...I cant really tell when you just meme or when you are legit an edgy neo nazi.
Think about how fucked up the world is now that orbiting a fucking gay man is seen as conservative. Just end me now fam
using a buzzword doesn't mean that the argument is invalid. We're talking about a 13 year old boy being molested which I and the laws of many countries strangely believe is wrong. I dont hate Milo but im not going to agree with everything someone says just because we agree on a few things, especially if those things are ridiculous as saying child molestation is ok and that it can be a positive experience.he kinda did defend pedo's though...
He didn't, he said the priest was "young and hot" and wanted to diddle him.
It's different from "pedophilia" (the buzzword the media is using to make people gasp), as I said above - it's pederasty.
Tbh, after watching his appearance on the drunken peasants podcast I can understand the medias kind of view. Obviously I disagree with now disregarding everything he says. But his view on homosexuality and how he describes his experience with the priest is so odd and weird its just...very lunatic.
The democrats lost an election over something that happened 4 years ago. kek. Doesn't really matter when you say it does it?Tbh, after watching his appearance on the drunken peasants podcast I can understand the medias kind of view. Obviously I disagree with now disregarding everything he says. But his view on homosexuality and how he describes his experience with the priest is so odd and weird its just...very lunatic.
Its understandable, yes, but it was a very strategic hit piece that was made to come out at a particular time. Milo lost his job, a book deal, and an upcoming speech he was doing..
for something he said over a month ago.
The democrats lost an election over something that happened 4 years ago. kek. Doesn't really matter when you say it does it?Tbh, after watching his appearance on the drunken peasants podcast I can understand the medias kind of view. Obviously I disagree with now disregarding everything he says. But his view on homosexuality and how he describes his experience with the priest is so odd and weird its just...very lunatic.
Its understandable, yes, but it was a very strategic hit piece that was made to come out at a particular time. Milo lost his job, a book deal, and an upcoming speech he was doing..
for something he said over a month ago.
There's isn't a conspiracy behind every corner.
They have to stop calling "non-white" people "coloured". That's a racist term dating back some 50 years. How do these people not see how classifying an entire group of people as being "coloured", ie. their skin is not of the "normal" colour, as not being supremely racist.It wasn't really a racist term it was just how blacks were described in the ~50's and 60's. "Negro" was considered to be too racist so "Colored" was the PC term for the time.
They have to stop calling "non-white" people "coloured". That's a racist term dating back some 50 years. How do these people not see how classifying an entire group of people as being "coloured", ie. their skin is not of the "normal" colour, as not being supremely racist.It wasn't really a racist term it was just how blacks were described in the ~50's and 60's. "Negro" was considered to be too racist so "Colored" was the PC term for the time.
It doesn't really matter anyway there will be a new adjective in 5 years that will be the new not racist term
if i get muted for using "Negro" I'll have to commit FSE genocide as retribution
(https://img.4plebs.org/boards/s4s/image/1440/91/1440918631475.gif)They have to stop calling "non-white" people "coloured". That's a racist term dating back some 50 years. How do these people not see how classifying an entire group of people as being "coloured", ie. their skin is not of the "normal" colour, as not being supremely racist.It wasn't really a racist term it was just how blacks were described in the ~50's and 60's. "Negro" was considered to be too racist so "Colored" was the PC term for the time.
It doesn't really matter anyway there will be a new adjective in 5 years that will be the new not racist term
if i get muted for using "Negro" I'll have to commit FSE genocide as retribution
(https://i.imgur.com/vvDLkus.png)
Interesting: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/25/netherlands-holds-inquiry-whether-could-ditch-euro/
They have to stop calling "non-white" people "coloured". That's a racist term dating back some 50 years. How do these people not see how classifying an entire group of people as being "coloured", ie. their skin is not of the "normal" colour, as not being supremely racist.It wasn't really a racist term it was just how blacks were described in the ~50's and 60's. "Negro" was considered to be too racist so "Colored" was the PC term for the time.
It doesn't really matter anyway there will be a new adjective in 5 years that will be the new not racist term
if i get muted for using "Negro" I'll have to commit FSE genocide as retribution
Interesting: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/25/netherlands-holds-inquiry-whether-could-ditch-euro/
Generally these things make international press beacuse of supposed 'bold statement' like 'ditchgin the euro'. It isn't even close to something like that. It's really nothing more than literally investigating all possible options - whether or not they're realistic. They do the same every now and again to see how they could close the budget deficit, and each time 'abolishing the army' is one of them. Which is technically true, but would be political dynamite. ERgo: the council of state won't look into how realistic any choice would be, just the possible ones.
The moderation team isn't quite keen on opening the US politics thread. Not suprising since it gets shut down every month or so because quite a number of people can't keep themselves from becoming majorly triggered and calling anything disagreeing with them a retard.
You dirty racistThe moderation team isn't quite keen on opening the US politics thread. Not suprising since it gets shut down every month or so because quite a number of people can't keep themselves from becoming majorly triggered and calling anything disagreeing with them a retard.
Threads only started being closed after nationalism utterly raped globalism late 2016... how strange.
You dirty racistThe moderation team isn't quite keen on opening the US politics thread. Not suprising since it gets shut down every month or so because quite a number of people can't keep themselves from becoming majorly triggered and calling anything disagreeing with them a retard.
Threads only started being closed after nationalism utterly raped globalism late 2016... how strange.
Just ban fancy and fraudbear and the thread will be goldenjokes on u, i wont even be here after next month. I'll be the next martyr
I am the OG martyr of the right on here.Just ban fancy and fraudbear and the thread will be goldenjokes on u, i wont even be here after next month. I'll be the next martyr
I am the OG martyr of the right on here.Just ban fancy and fraudbear and the thread will be goldenjokes on u, i wont even be here after next month. I'll be the next martyr
The moderation team isn't quite keen on opening the US politics thread. Not suprising since it gets shut down every month or so because quite a number of people can't keep themselves from becoming majorly triggered and calling anything disagreeing with them a retard.
Threads only started being closed after nationalism utterly raped globalism late 2016... how strange.
Shhhh Riddlez let him think he's right.
Checked.Shhhh Riddlez let him think he's right.
1) Almost 6000 posts of garbage (look how active I am mods!!)
2) Constantly agrees with moderators
3) Donator
4) Panda wearing a red star as avatar
Yup, everything checks out.
it was shutdown because of the same people each time. #BanFancyThe moderation team isn't quite keen on opening the US politics thread. Not suprising since it gets shut down every month or so because quite a number of people can't keep themselves from becoming majorly triggered and calling anything disagreeing with them a retard.
Threads only started being closed after nationalism utterly raped globalism late 2016... how strange.
You know this isn't true, the US politics thread was shut down on multiple occasions, throughout 2016, and before.
Shhhh Riddlez let him think he's right.
1) Almost 6000 posts of garbage (look how active I am mods!!)
2) Constantly agrees with moderators
3) Donator
4) Panda wearing a red star as avatar
Yup, everything checks out.
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Foriginal%2F000%2F948%2F911%2Fed7.jpg&hash=baf331bcab61a55351f103460784a11f2d860deb)Checked.Shhhh Riddlez let him think he's right.
1) Almost 6000 posts of garbage (look how active I am mods!!)
2) Constantly agrees with moderators
3) Donator
4) Panda wearing a red star as avatar
Yup, everything checks out.
Classic Clearly, disappearing for months on end to show his activity :)Shhhh Riddlez let him think he's right.
1) Almost 6000 posts of garbage (look how active I am mods!!)
2) Constantly agrees with moderators
3) Donator
4) Panda wearing a red star as avatar
Yup, everything checks out.
Classic Clearly, disappearing for months on end to show his activity :)Shhhh Riddlez let him think he's right.
1) Almost 6000 posts of garbage (look how active I am mods!!)
2) Constantly agrees with moderators
3) Donator
4) Panda wearing a red star as avatar
Yup, everything checks out.
What a great roast.Checked.Shhhh Riddlez let him think he's right.
1) Almost 6000 posts of garbage (look how active I am mods!!)
2) Constantly agrees with moderators
3) Donator
4) Panda wearing a red star as avatar
Yup, everything checks out.
Now Im confused.
I haven't posted here in months. Where did the four posts a day thing come from?
Is my rate still that high from when I was active here?
Also to this obviously politically charged username dude, Im stating evidence from the past. The US thread was shut down a horrific amount of times from 2014-2015 because shit generally just got messy.
Sorry you took it personally man, but you're just not correct here.
Now Im confused.
I haven't posted here in months. Where did the four posts a day thing come from?
Is my rate still that high from when I was active here?
Also to this obviously politically charged username dude, Im stating evidence from the past. The US thread was shut down a horrific amount of times from 2014-2015 because shit generally just got messy.
Sorry you took it personally man, but you're just not correct here.
Correct me if I am wrong
But I am pretty sure the US Politics Thread was started in 2016.
I believe a UK thread was made around Brexit time/abit before
and then BabyJesus decided to make the US politics thread saying "Since there is a UK thread I'm guessing this is allowed." during like November of 2016.
So how would it be possible it was locked a horrific amount of times in 2014-2015?
I think it was just 2016 that Duuring really kept his hand on the Lock trigger to be honest.
What a great roast.
A modern classic.
Right, what Chinton said. Sorry, my memory's utter trash.
But yeah, the Gen Politics thread always ended up getting locked and purged and edited and yada yada yada. Shit, this was before Duuring was even a mod. Back when Riddlez was still outside of the community. Does anyone remember who the forum mods were back then?
Either way my point stands, stuff always got ugly.
*Shrug* Hey man, Im just one dude with a keyboard. I've got the same weight as you do, or any other dude with a keyboard....he thinks he has the same weight as me
What were we talking about again?
*Shrug* Hey man, Im just one dude with a keyboard. I've got the same weight as you do, or any other dude with a keyboard....he thinks he has the same weight as me
What were we talking about again?
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Go get the Sheriff.
No, I won't lock this thread, or any thread, as easily as some other moderators.
That said, I will ask you one more time to get this topic back on topic, or this:Go get the Sheriff.
Is exactly what I'll do.
This thread is for : Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread, not for whatever thing you dislike about mods, the rules, CRs, or for whatever other offtopic topic.
Now get back on topic, and pm/steam duuring if you want to talk to him about something, or talk to a CR.
Lmao. Bears actually put a school on lockdown. God bless Betsy Devoss
http://www.freep.com/story/news/nation/2017/03/02/betsy-devos/98635018/ (http://www.freep.com/story/news/nation/2017/03/02/betsy-devos/98635018/)
"The General Political Thread"
doesn't this include the politics of FSE?
I wouldn't discount the possibility that the polls are completely wrong and understate the support for Wilders, much like they did for Brexit and Trump. If Wilders does far better than the polling implies then perhaps Le Pen could be on course for victory (which the polls state can't happen).
I wouldn't discount the possibility that the polls are completely wrong and understate the support for Wilders, much like they did for Brexit and Trump. If Wilders does far better than the polling implies then perhaps Le Pen could be on course for victory (which the polls state can't happen).
Inshallah Dutch Trump will win.French Trump? Inshallah?
So...... Turkey is trying to interfere with the sovereignty of my country?
Top kek. Bring it.
Shows you how great integration worked lel
What worries me more is the behavior of Turkish Dutchmen in this whole incident.
It's Erdogan's typical response to everything these days:imo, Erdocunt is the biggest nazi around.
'You don't agree with me, so that means you must be Nazis. You're wrong and I am right.'
It raises the question why they want to have Dutch citizenship when they support Erdogan, a man who is against every principle our country stands for.
They don't understand that when you are guest (or well... "part of it") in a different country you should behave to their rules. I think it's just Turkish mentality.
While Turkey and the Netherlands have their war of words we are low key invading Syria 8)
Lol, I think you mean they're Turkish people who happen to have Dutch passports. Clearly they're more loyal to Ankara than to Amsterdam.
While Turkey and the Netherlands have their war of words we are low key invading Syria 8)
I read it on a military news site, indeed. Quite interesting. Especially the part where they were deploying infantry, but they wouldn't at all be deployed to the front *rolls eyes*Lol, I think you mean they're Turkish people who happen to have Dutch passports. Clearly they're more loyal to Ankara than to Amsterdam.
The Hague* but I agree completely.
The mayor of Rotterdam handled the situation very well, though. The riots could've been much worse.
Does Erdogan want to fight every country?
Kek
https://www.thelocal.se/20120614/41442 (https://www.thelocal.se/20120614/41442)
"The 19-year-old, who came to Sweden as a refugee in 2010, had lived with the royal couple, and Magnuson had acted as his mentor"This is getting funnier and funnier ahahah SWEDEN YES!
Crown Jewel stealing refugees. Alrite.
82nd... kekWith over 700 there already it's pretty much an invasion, and on my mil hub there's a deployment of nearly 3000 82nd airborne boys to Syria very soon.SpoilerWhile Turkey and the Netherlands have their war of words we are low key invading Syria 8)
I read it on a military news site, indeed. Quite interesting. Especially the part where they were deploying infantry, but they wouldn't at all be deployed to the front *rolls eyes*Lol, I think you mean they're Turkish people who happen to have Dutch passports. Clearly they're more loyal to Ankara than to Amsterdam.
The Hague* but I agree completely.
The mayor of Rotterdam handled the situation very well, though. The riots could've been much worse.[close]
Does Erdogan want to fight every country?
I thought nazi's and muslims where friendly?Yea, hitler had many Muslim allies
Erdogan has started talking about Dutch cowardice in Srebrenica. Damn he went there lol.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39270095
So according to Erdocunt, We killed our friends?
In the islam you have mohammed. Mohammed was a war-lord, as it is called, a warlord(but he uses different word now but same meaning). (he) was a pedophile. (he) Was somebody who beheaded jews in forests. (he) Was somebody who, in his mekka and medina time, very aggresive was. Is until this day, in contradiction to jesus, an inspiration to people along with allah. You know that last year with all those attacks in Germany and entire Europe, They all shouted ''allahu akbar'' before they slit the throat of priests in Paris. That is the islam. I dont have to tell you that mohammed isnt jesus right? And if we dont defend ourself from that, if we dont have the courage to see the islam for what it is, and it isnt only jihad, its islam itself who is making sure that if we are looking (politically) correct away, that we will soon as the netherlands and the free West will cease to exist. And we can never tolerate that.
...but, if you treasure freedom, if you enjoy it and appreciate it, then you also give that to others, even if they don't share [your religion], and that is a freedom that is stronger than any threat, and that is a freedom that I defend.
That's a nice bulletproof vest he's wearing.
@William Don't just leave out the response regarding freedom of religion.Quote...but, if you treasure freedom, if you enjoy it and appreciate it, then you also give that to others, even if they don't share [your religion], and that is a freedom that is stronger than any threat, and that is a freedom that I defend.
Can't the Dutch MPs just block Wilders by defecting to other parties? Correct me if I'm wrong, though.
Freedom or the concept of democracy doesn't exist in Europe and is shunned when proposed, it seems.
Well, since nobody's brave enough to make a prediction, I'll say the polls will be proven wrong and PVV will be the biggest party. Wilders has no chance of becoming PM of course.
Well, since nobody's brave enough to make a prediction, I'll say the polls will be proven wrong and PVV will be the biggest party. Wilders has no chance of becoming PM of course.
Well, you seem to be wrong.
Well, he got more seats than UKIP at least.That's because the Dutch use a democratic system which awards political power based on the proportion of the vote rather than a broken ass FPTP system like the UK and US.
We do FPTP toBut Theodin, Papa Trudeau said 2015 was the last time we'll use FPTP!
Notice us
Holy shit that guy looks like Trudeau
letting a bunch of poor people who have made bad life choices decide a leader.... democracy is gayLuL
Well, since nobody's brave enough to make a prediction, I'll say the polls will be proven wrong and PVV will be the biggest party. Wilders has no chance of becoming PM of course.
Well, you seem to be wrong.
Pretty much lol. I think the MSM are going to massively exaggerate this and claim it as a great victory against populism etc.
https://www.ft.com/content/c10aa4f8-08a5-11e7-97d1-5e720a26771b
Merkel's getting busy in preparation for September.
The German government has presented a draft law that would impose fines of up to €50m on social networks that fail to delete hate speech or fake news, in what amounts to the most draconian clampdown by a European country against internet platforms such as Facebook and Twitter. The law reflects mounting concern in German political circles about the potential influence fake news and hate speech could have on Germany’s federal election later this year, where Angela Merkel’s ruling conservatives are facing a strong challenge from the populist, anti-immigration Alternative for Germany (AfD).
Wilders is way too radical in my opinion, FvD seems like an alright right-wing party, and a good alternative to PVV, although I don't really know their party programme all to well.
"Do not make three, but five children, because you are the future of Europe," Erdogan said Friday in Eskisehir in the West of Turkey."he said that because he wants to go to more birthday parties
Still laughing at Brexit? :)
LARGE minorities what? :P
[citation needed] (http://)
Yeah so? If a large part of the population is Muslim they have a right to exert political influence. Even if it is a small part of the population they have a right to do that. If you do not like it, do not vote for their Parties. That is how democrazy works...
This is mostly being driven by migration levels rather than fertility rates. We'll see in time whether the birthrates decline to native levels-I doubt they will because they are generally among the least integrated migrants groups, and Pew seem to think they won't decline that dramatically, but who knows. I think they will go down a bit but not to contemporary native European levels.
As I said that is how Democracy works.
And if a law like this still passes, fair game, as long as they did everything by the rulebook you can not do anything about it. (Try again next election, I guess?) As I said, that is how democracy works.
This is mostly being driven by migration levels rather than fertility rates. We'll see in time whether the birthrates decline to native levels-I doubt they will because they are generally among the least integrated migrants groups, and Pew seem to think they won't decline that dramatically, but who knows. I think they will go down a bit but not to contemporary native European levels.
Figures show an incredible fast decline in birth rates under immigrants yet you still doubt it based on how you feel about them. Acceptance of LGBT's is also increasing steadily. We are changing their views, not the other way around. At least in my country. Maybe the United Kingdom is just fucked up, who knows.
This is where I got my information from: https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/jan/28/muslim-population-country-projection-2030I still don't get the whole "25% of the population in some places" bit. By some places I assume you mean relevant countries in Europe, where it simply isn't true. Large Western countries we're talking about 7-10% by 2030, with the UK at 8.2%, Sweden at 9.9%, Netherlands at 7.8%, France at 10.3% and Germany at 7.1%.
That '8% by 2030' figure is for the whole of the European continent and therefore highly misleading. European Muslims are highly concentrated in Western European countries-for instance in France the Muslim population was already around 8% in 2011. The Pew Forum data was also compiled before Merkel's 2015 'Open Door' policy. I think it's very fair to say the Muslim population of many European countries will approach 20% or more within our lifetimes supposing current trends continue.
Keep in mind 17% of the current US population is Hispanic and look how much political power they wield as a group in an electoral system that operates FPTP.
in the UK it's the other way round. The younger generations are actually more likely to hold extreme views on most things, though some are more accepting of LGBT people (though when I say 'some' they're still very much a minority viewpoint among their age group).And the video doesn't play in the UK :/
You guys let media headlines influence you way too much.
I read the news every damn day, I just don't accept everything I read at face value for obvious reasons, with Tory Cabinet Ministers getting part time jobs as Editors. All I'm asking for is a little evidence to back it up.You guys let media headlines influence you way too much.Seems like you don't read the news at all, Tiki. Do you really need a study to tell you that the younger generation of British Muslims are more extreme than the older generation? Do you live in the UK? Have you ever? lmao
So we're probably getting a coalition of three pro-European parties and one Christian-Democrat centrist. Le Pen is trailing in every poll. Germany is between CDU and the more pro-European SPD.
Where's that 'patrioting spring' at, boys?
It was painfully obvious from the get-go that Wilders would basically suffer a defeat if he didn't get anything BUT being the largest party. Now that Rutte can actually form a coalition, Wilders has become as isolated as he can be. Sure he got 19 seats, but he's still as poltically irrelevant as ever, as literally no party you can take seriously politically speaking will be working together with him.Well it did force Rutte's party to partially adopt right-leaning ideas. It isn't the stance that Wilders has but he did leave a slight impact on the overall politics of the United Provinces. However, I don't know if they'll actually follow through.
Oh and the senate is not an issue for Rutte as well, at least less than the last two years.
Wilders will be poltically dead until the next election.
Or as soon as ISIS hits Amsterdam.
It was painfully obvious from the get-go that Wilders would basically suffer a defeat if he didn't get anything BUT being the largest party. Now that Rutte can actually form a coalition, Wilders has become as isolated as he can be. Sure he got 19 seats, but he's still as poltically irrelevant as ever, as literally no party you can take seriously politically speaking will be working together with him.Well it did force Rutte's party to partially adopt right-leaning ideas. It isn't the stance that Wilders has but he did leave a slight impact on the overall politics of the United Provinces. However, I don't know if they'll actually follow through.
Oh and the senate is not an issue for Rutte as well, at least less than the last two years.
Wilders will be poltically dead until the next election.
Or as soon as ISIS hits Amsterdam.
I wonder what happens to easyjet and all the other british low cost airlines, once Brexit kicks in.
I wonder what happens to easyjet and all the other british low cost airlines, once Brexit kicks in.
They'll have to fly a little higher because we're going to build a massive f*cking wall in the middle of the English Channel and Luxembourg's going to pay for it.
I thought you lived in North America?
Putin has no interest but his own. And I very strongly doubt he wants to 'save' Europe. If anything, I think he would rather see it divided and weak.a country having their own intrest in mind... what a monster
No, but he might invade Belarus.Lmfao I like that
I mean, Putin does what he wants. I don't think Russia or its people really factors into any choice he makes.Putin has no interest but his own. And I very strongly doubt he wants to 'save' Europe. If anything, I think he would rather see it divided and weak.a country having their own intrest in mind... what a monster
Not sure more refugees is what we need right now.The Belarusians would integrate much better though
Lose eastern Europe in its entirety, or nuclear holocaust?
Take a bit of Lithuania, or nuclear holocaust?I mean, I'd honestly say Putin would steal eastern Europe given the chance.
Take a bit of Poland, or nuclear holocaust?
The nuclear deterrent goes both ways - any land loss is due to the EU failing to protect its member states sufficiently. The responsible falls onto the cash cow union. They must accept the fact that they must also embrace the downsides of forcing a political union.Lose eastern Europe in its entirety, or nuclear holocaust?
let's not sensationalize any of their intentions
Its economy is in the shit, its demographics are terrible, but Duuring seriously believes Russia is poised to annex parts of Eastern Europe. Lol.Russia could easily annex the Baltic states, Belarus and Ukraine without much opposition. I'd say it'd be a struggle against Poland or any other European country but it could definitely wipe the ones I mentioned. Its not like it would though.
Even if Russia had the capability to do that (it doesn't) it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Doing that would provoke Eastern Europe into ever greater reliance upon Brussels and would re-invigorate EU integration at a time when it's falling apart. That's probably why EU officials are busy putting out propaganda about the 'Russian menace' to the East. He would be far better off, as Putin knows perfectly well, sitting back doing nothing and watching the EU fall apart. He'll probably give things a subtle prod in the right direction with a coordinated leak to WikiLeaks or whatever every once in a while but that's about it.
Anyway even if pigs fly and Russia does decide to invade Europe and do a reverse Hitler/Napoleon the UK will be perfectly safe because we're an island. Putin only has one aircraft carrier that barely floats (it needs its own support ship to pull it along in case it breaks down, which is quite often). I mean just read this it's hilarious and should dispel any thoughts you might have that Russia is some kind of military superpower: https://warisboring.com/your-aircraft-carrier-is-a-piece-of-crap-f3f52d299588#.mksi3nys7
without much opposition
Its economy is in the shit, its demographics are terrible, but Duuring seriously believes Russia is poised to annex parts of Eastern Europe. Lol.
I agree with you commie shill but what other choice do we have? its been the only reason another major global conflict hasn't broken out since WW2Its economy is in the shit, its demographics are terrible, but Duuring seriously believes Russia is poised to annex parts of Eastern Europe. Lol.
I never said that. I said that relying on nuclear weapons to avoid conflict is retarded.
Its economy is in the shit, its demographics are terrible, but Duuring seriously believes Russia is poised to annex parts of Eastern Europe. Lol.
I never said that. I said that relying on nuclear weapons to avoid conflict is retarded.
Its economy is in the shit, its demographics are terrible, but Duuring seriously believes Russia is poised to annex parts of Eastern Europe. Lol.
I never said that. I said that relying on nuclear weapons to avoid conflict is retarded.
No, but he might invade Belarus.
Surely an attack on the Netherlands would have resulted in all other nations throwing nukes around?
Who cares anyway. It's only the fucking Dutch.
why did we even bother to spend zillion of dollars in conventional forces? Any attack would have surely resulted in nuclear war, right?
That can't possibly be true. The US military spent long periods of the Cold War in active warzones like Vietnam, Korea, the Gulf, etc. Highly doubt military planners would neglect the army/navy with all that going on. Source?Vietnam was great
When Americans starts seeing Russia as a potential ally.. What a meme.Keep your friends close and enemies closer? idk why the two largest nuclear powers in the world having close cooperation is a bad thing.
Source?
When Americans starts seeing Russia as a potential ally.. What a meme.
FSE only recognise two genders, that's discriminatory against trans-people.
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Come on Olafson, it's 2017-there are over 71 genders and more are being discovered every day.
It's not about the fact that they're both large, powerful and have nuclear weapons. The issue with befriending Russia is their blatant corruption, silencing of the press, locking up political opponents/dissidents and disregard for modern borders. Pretending that it isn't happening does nothing to help the US's image as a supposed bastion of liberty and justice.When Americans starts seeing Russia as a potential ally.. What a meme.Keep your friends close and enemies closer? idk why the two largest nuclear powers in the world having close cooperation is a bad thing.
Has international pressure to change Russia's ways changed anything? Doesn't seem like it
Russia-NATO talks about Ukraine conflict failed. A very positive thing is that NATO and Russia did exchange information about troop building and exercises on the borders, to prevent accidents.
This really shows: "we really don't like each other, but we also really don't want to fight each other."
Who are you addressing when you say "they"Russia-NATO talks about Ukraine conflict failed. A very positive thing is that NATO and Russia did exchange information about troop building and exercises on the borders, to prevent accidents.
This really shows: "we really don't like each other, but we also really don't want to fight each other."
Ah ha they still move troops into Ukraine without reprocussion and Trump seems to be fine with it.
But now that both sides shared, at least it shows some measure of goodwill.
But now that both sides shared, at least it shows some measure of goodwill.
Ukrainians are dying every day and you rejoice about Russian goodwill through an action considered standard procedure.
Lol that war is still going on, rest of world is like, wuh ???But wait Trump is still saying stupid things so lets pay attention to him instead of the conflicts around the world that are still ongoing!
It's a shame not so many people care about Ukraine anymore :/
Careful mate, that much edge and you might hurt someone.
I is confucius now....We can always hope (https://forums.taleworlds.com/Smileys/phpbb/contrib_fruity.gif)
Side note though.... it's not like an EU military would be deployed to Ukraine.
Riddlez tone it down mateI mean it can't exactly be a surprise that there are jobs out there that I'm very glad are done by other people (manual and menial labour, military stuff etc). I'm just highlighting your facetiousness with shitposts.
So when are we going to talk about African politicsI mean the Gambian National Assembly election is on Thursday you wanna talk about that Nero?
is gambia like a province in africa?So when are we going to talk about African politicsI mean the Gambian National Assembly election is on Thursday you wanna talk about that Nero?
is gambia like a province in africa?Gambia belongs to Africa in the same way a fire belongs to ancient Rome.
good reference to my name misteris gambia like a province in africa?Gambia belongs to Africa in the same way a fire belongs to ancient Rome.
good reference to my name misteris gambia like a province in africa?Gambia belongs to Africa in the same way a fire belongs to ancient Rome.
yes the statistics showgood reference to my name misteris gambia like a province in africa?Gambia belongs to Africa in the same way a fire belongs to ancient Rome.
Eh? I thought this was Milo Yiannopoulos' FSE account.
The suspense is killing me NeroClassic, racist remark that has become typical of you Ricky .P - Making such sarcastic remarks in such a snide tone about Gambia is honestly disgusting. No wonder you're a UKIP supporter. Gambia is a sovereign nation that deserves equal respect like any other nation.
What do the statistics show?!
i was refering to milo always talking about statistics sozcuck
The suspense is killing me NeroClassic, racist remark that has become typical of you Ricky .P - Making such sarcastic remarks in such a snide tone about Gambia is honestly disgusting. No wonder you're a UKIP supporter. Gambia is a sovereign nation that deserves equal respect like any other nation.
What do the statistics show?!
The suspense is killing me NeroClassic, racist remark that has become typical of you Ricky .P - Making such sarcastic remarks in such a snide tone about Gambia is honestly disgusting. No wonder you're a UKIP supporter. Gambia is a sovereign nation that deserves equal respect like any other nation.
What do the statistics show?!
Absolutely correct, I sincerely apologise for anything I've said that may have been insensitive in regards to Gambia.
The suspense is killing me NeroClassic, racist remark that has become typical of you Ricky .P - Making such sarcastic remarks in such a snide tone about Gambia is honestly disgusting. No wonder you're a UKIP supporter. Gambia is a sovereign nation that deserves equal respect like any other nation.
What do the statistics show?!
Absolutely correct, I sincerely apologise for anything I've said that may have been insensitive in regards to Gambia.
It's 'The Gambia' not 'Gambia' you racist xenophobes.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/06/us-launches-missiles-into-syria-in-response-to-chemical-weapons-attack.htmlI doubt much will come of it.
oh no
The likelihood Assad used chemical weapons is incredibly small, but whatever. I'd wager the whole thing is a set-up, though between who and why I have no idea.Nah, it's not in this day and age where it can be set up. US has 24/7 reconnaissance and surveillance over syrias Air Force activity, its more geospatial intelligence, so it would be pretty easy to identify if it was a Syrian based helicopter dropping chemical gas bombs on civilians, or any other Syrian operated aircraft.
The likelihood Assad used chemical weapons is incredibly small, but whatever. I'd wager the whole thing is a set-up, though between who and why I have no idea.Nah, it's not in this day and age where it can be set up. US has 24/7 reconnaissance and surveillance over syrias Air Force activity, its more geospatial intelligence, so it would be pretty easy to identify if it was a Syrian based helicopter dropping chemical gas bombs on civilians, or any other Syrian operated aircraft.
Good for Trump, he actually had the balls to do something about it and I support that sort of response. Don't think it will escalate to a full out war, Syria knows it would obviously loseIt was a surprisingly fast response and sent a clear message that he handles things differently than Obama. I for one did not think the Trump administration would involve themselves, even after the chemical attack. However, I am rather pleased with it. It's about time someone stepped up and did something.
Exactly. Why risk international attention when you're about to shutdown these CIA backed rebels once and for all?!The likelihood Assad used chemical weapons is incredibly small, but whatever. I'd wager the whole thing is a set-up, though between who and why I have no idea.Nah, it's not in this day and age where it can be set up. US has 24/7 reconnaissance and surveillance over syrias Air Force activity, its more geospatial intelligence, so it would be pretty easy to identify if it was a Syrian based helicopter dropping chemical gas bombs on civilians, or any other Syrian operated aircraft.
Oh please, as if intelligence is always that clear cut. Obama and Kerry were bragging 24 months ago that Assad had given up 100% of his chemical weapons (hint: he had almost none anyway). Makes no sense for Assad to use chemical weapons, allegedly he didn't have any to begin with, and the footage of the 'attack' is a bit suspicious (shows people handling victims without gloves for a start, which is the very first thing I was taught not to do when I did my CBRN training as a reservist). Anyway the US response makes no sense either-you don't blow up a area where you suspect chemical weapons are being stored that's just dumb.
It is strange how as soon as they are finally getting the rebels under control they bring international attention to themselves. Something definitely reeks here but I'm afraid we will never truly know what happened.Exactly. Why risk international attention when you're about to shutdown these CIA backed rebels once and for all?!SpoilerQuoteThe likelihood Assad used chemical weapons is incredibly small, but whatever. I'd wager the whole thing is a set-up, though between who and why I have no idea.Nah, it's not in this day and age where it can be set up. US has 24/7 reconnaissance and surveillance over syrias Air Force activity, its more geospatial intelligence, so it would be pretty easy to identify if it was a Syrian based helicopter dropping chemical gas bombs on civilians, or any other Syrian operated aircraft.
Oh please, as if intelligence is always that clear cut. Obama and Kerry were bragging 24 months ago that Assad had given up 100% of his chemical weapons (hint: he had almost none anyway). Makes no sense for Assad to use chemical weapons, allegedly he didn't have any to begin with, and the footage of the 'attack' is a bit suspicious (shows people handling victims without gloves for a start, which is the very first thing I was taught not to do when I did my CBRN training as a reservist). Anyway the US response makes no sense either-you don't blow up a area where you suspect chemical weapons are being stored that's just dumb.[close]
There's just something so fishy about a leader liked by his own people and a person who had a secular government which provided a haven for Christians, having a mysterious rebellion break out and and then having those rebels backed by U.S. only to find out they're ISIS. FeelsBadMan
Looking at the facts and how the civil war was going for Assad, I just cannot see him ordering a chemical weapon strike. Trump had literally just wrote him off saying he'll more or less leave Assad alone, then Assad orders a chemical strike knowing Trump won't be able to turn a blind eye?Did the rebels have the capability to do so? I mean considering they're flying jets (multiple times remember, considering the followup attacks on the hospitals/clinics) in what is largely Russian/Regime controlled territory. As of March 8th there had been no Coalition airstrikes in that region, only Russian, which leads me to believe that there is air superiority in favour of Russia/Assad there. Surely they'd just have been shot out of the sky?
It's not the first time the rebels have tried to pull a false flag, either.
yes... Trump is being a very good goy it seemsGood for Trump, he actually had the balls to do something about it and I support that sort of response. Don't think it will escalate to a full out war, Syria knows it would obviously loseIt was a surprisingly fast response and sent a clear message that he handles things differently than Obama. I for one did not think the Trump administration would involve themselves, even after the chemical attack. However, I am rather pleased with it. It's about time someone stepped up and did something.
I agree. I think it sends a clear message that we aren't going to let innocent people get attacked in anyway. Under Obama, nothing would have happened. I am glad Trump sends a message. Also, Hillary said we should have hit all the air fields; however, Trump's response was direct, limited, and targeted one.
Moving on from Trump...Maxime Bernier please win the conservatives.
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Here's a picture of Justin Trudeau's photographer taking pictures of Justin Trudeau sitting at his desk signing photographs of himself. They say an image tells a thousand words...
I'm supporting Erin O'Toole, but Bernier would be my second choice with O'Leary a distant third. Anyone but Michael Chong (barely a conservative) basically.I'd be ok with O'Toole if he actually stood a chance. Bernier and O'Leary are miles ahead of almost every person in that race. I considered buying a membership to vote but idk that much really, Trudeau will likely see two terms unless Bernier pulls of some good PR.
It'd be proper banter if Assad chemical struck a US baseThat would be some awesome banter
Getting back to French politics, I saw this being shared on Twitter and it looks interesting. Couple of spelling mistakes but it's written by a French journalist so that's to be expected: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8_-ZtIWsAAvZ8X.jpg
All aboard the banter nuke.It'd be proper banter if Assad chemical struck a US baseThat would be some awesome banter
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/syria-trudeau-assad-attacks-1.4063464+1 to that.
I hope he falls down a well.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/syria-trudeau-assad-attacks-1.4063464+1 to that.
I hope he falls down a well.
StillNotReadyhttp://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/syria-trudeau-assad-attacks-1.4063464+1 to that.
I hope he falls down a well.
Nice hair though
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/syria-trudeau-assad-attacks-1.4063464
I hope he falls down a well.
I mean it doesn't make it any better. Its retarded to think that Syria will become more stable if Assad capitulates.http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/syria-trudeau-assad-attacks-1.4063464
I hope he falls down a well.
You know that's literally what the coalition at first proclaimed? Literally almost all of Europe went into the operation with this in mind.
nah, lets remove the only secular and semi stable government in the regionI mean it doesn't make it any better. Its retarded to think that Syria will become more stable if Assad capitulates.http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/syria-trudeau-assad-attacks-1.4063464
I hope he falls down a well.
You know that's literally what the coalition at first proclaimed? Literally almost all of Europe went into the operation with this in mind.
Well lets put it this way, if you're going to openly attack a sovereign nation, you'd better have a damn good reason (like intending to depose the leader for using chemical weapons against civilians).True, those missiles cost over 100 million and where basically a waste of time.
If you're not willing to do that, then why attack them at all? Just leave them alone to keep fucking themselves over and make America great again. I mean that's what Trump kept telling people that they should be doing, at least while it wasn't him calling the shots.
True, those missiles cost over 100 million and where basically a waste of time.
I mean it doesn't make it any better. Its retarded to think that Syria will become more stable if Assad capitulates.
Each missile costs over 1 million to make, and he fired 59. The number found on Wikipedia is 1.87m per unit.True, those missiles cost over 100 million and where basically a waste of time.
more like a million, but yeah.I mean it doesn't make it any better. Its retarded to think that Syria will become more stable if Assad capitulates.
That's not what they're saying. They don't need Assad to capitulate. They want a regime change. A new leader, who will negotiate with..... well, the rest of the world.
Don't think that Russia is really negotiating with him. They're strongarming him. Assad doesn't talk to anyone and the reason the West wants him gone is not only because of what he did DURING the Syrian civil war, but also before it. He is a completely loose cannon.
"Assad is a lose cannon"good goy
OYYY VEYYY
Lmao, Erdogan won his referendum.Oh sweet Jesus.
It currently stands at 51% in favour ater 98% of the votes counted. I can't say I am surprised, I kinda suspected this would happen. I had hoped the referendum would fail, but alas. What I do find interesting is how really close it is, 51% is a really low majority. I was expecting somewhere around 55-60% in favour, not 51. I guess Turkey is way more divided than we thought.Won't be divided any more. All hail Erdogan.
Jesus, the majority of Turks living in Europe and which voted in the referendum voted 'Yes'
I'm sure everyone is truly shocked that you, Furrnox, of all people support the globalist money whore who apologised for colonisation...I'm shook right now.
You are aware that globalism and the EU are one of the main reasons peace lasted for so long on our planet?I'm sure everyone is truly shocked that you, Furrnox, of all people support the globalist money whore who apologised for colonisation...I'm shook right now.
however, I think this is going to be a really hard victory for Le Pen because everyone else is supporting the globalist and she only advanced due to there being so many other choices in the first round. Hopefully nationalism and the love for rational thinking will triumph but if it doesn't, the EU will continue to take sovereignty away from countries and populism will take a serious blow.
You are aware that globalism and the EU are one of the main reasons peace lasted for so long on our planet?I'm sure everyone is truly shocked that you, Furrnox, of all people support the globalist money whore who apologised for colonisation...I'm shook right now.
however, I think this is going to be a really hard victory for Le Pen because everyone else is supporting the globalist and she only advanced due to there being so many other choices in the first round. Hopefully nationalism and the love for rational thinking will triumph but if it doesn't, the EU will continue to take sovereignty away from countries and populism will take a serious blow.
You are aware that globalism and the EU are one of the main reasons peace lasted for so long on our planet?I'm sure everyone is truly shocked that you, Furrnox, of all people support the globalist money whore who apologised for colonisation...I'm shook right now.
however, I think this is going to be a really hard victory for Le Pen because everyone else is supporting the globalist and she only advanced due to there being so many other choices in the first round. Hopefully nationalism and the love for rational thinking will triumph but if it doesn't, the EU will continue to take sovereignty away from countries and populism will take a serious blow.
Mutually Assured Destruction is great.You are aware that globalism and the EU are one of the main reasons peace lasted for so long on our planet?I'm sure everyone is truly shocked that you, Furrnox, of all people support the globalist money whore who apologised for colonisation...I'm shook right now.
however, I think this is going to be a really hard victory for Le Pen because everyone else is supporting the globalist and she only advanced due to there being so many other choices in the first round. Hopefully nationalism and the love for rational thinking will triumph but if it doesn't, the EU will continue to take sovereignty away from countries and populism will take a serious blow.
Yeah, that or nuclear weapons.
Darn that gif was a great argument, im really convinced now.
Wars are mostly fought for economical reasons. Due to globalism war hurts economy more then it gives you anything. If im wrong pls tell me why and dont answer in shitty futurama gifs.
On another note: Anyone here watch Designated Survivor on Netflix? The PC narrative is horrible and really hurts a good show.
Nationalism and rational thinking don't really mix bud. ;)Oil (Islam) and Water (Secularism/Christians) cannot mix no matter how much you stir the mixture. You fools keep trying to coexist but how can you coexist with something that shares little to no common values and morals.
Nationalism and rational thinking don't really mix bud. ;)putting your country first and wanting to improve it is now irrational
Hell hath no fury like a Swede lusting for brown cockNationalism and rational thinking don't really mix bud. ;)putting your country first and wanting to improve it is now irrationalwho else but...(https://i.redd.it/uoo7eb3rhvgy.png)[close]
What sucks is that the world population is growing at an extreme rate and we won't have the resources to support this many people. It's time for a good war honestly so we can remedy this problem /s
when you don't even acknowledge the plebbit tier "/s"What sucks is that the world population is growing at an extreme rate and we won't have the resources to support this many people. It's time for a good war honestly so we can remedy this problem /s
When you claim to be a rational thinker and say the solution to the worlds problems is a "good war".
Anyone who believes in the mighty protective power of MAD just hasn't watched enough "Yes Minister".
But seriously though, nuclear weapons are only a last resort, and as such are something we would only ever use ifthe USSRRussia were to nuke/invade us personally. What if they fly planes into our airspace? No nukes. What if they annex part of Ukraine? No nukes. What if they annex all of Eastern Europe? Still no nukes. What if they take over the entire planet except for nations with nuclear weapons? No thermonuclear annihilation.
And anyway it's not like they'll stop terrorist attacks or guerrilla style attacks a la Crimea. They're essentially only for use against other nuclear attacks, ergo, they're completely pointless.
Just scrap them (pretend we still have some if you must?). They're a huge waste of money.
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/04/25/schumer-its-not-a-negotiation-no-wall/Spoiler(https://media.8ch.net/file_store/0e89093ab333d775273444f67673c2c70d106322cb156912e30e264b4b42bd2e.png)[close]
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What sucks is that the world population is growing at an extreme rate and we won't have the resources to support this many people. It's time for a good war honestly so we can remedy this problem /sNationalism and rational thinking don't really mix bud. ;)Oil (Islam) and Water (Secularism/Christians) cannot mix no matter how much you stir the mixture. You fools keep trying to coexist but how can you coexist with something that shares little to no common values and morals.
Yeah, reassuring foreign leaders that a multinational important trade deal isn't going to be arbitrarily blown up immediately is such an inconsistent move from his campaign goals. Lol.lol, like the U.S hasn't done enough to the lumber industry.
The US dept of commerce recently informed the Canadian government that a duty would be applied on Canadian lumber exports ( I think), so I don't think he's thrown protectionism out of the window.
The only thing I was really worried about with Trump was his protectionism. Our economy has suffered enoughYeah, reassuring foreign leaders that a multinational important trade deal isn't going to be arbitrarily blown up immediately is such an inconsistent move from his campaign goals. Lol.lol, like the U.S hasn't done enough to the lumber industry.
The US dept of commerce recently informed the Canadian government that a duty would be applied on Canadian lumber exports ( I think), so I don't think he's thrown protectionism out of the window.
Might want to extend your sources to be broader than WSJ, NYT and /pol/ baitYes
Someone want to write my political science final exam for me?I gotchu. Got 40.5/50 on my political theory exam
NAFTA is a waste, we don't need Canada or Mexico cuz we are America 8)no plz
NAFTA is a waste, we don't need Canada or Mexico cuz we are America 8)Yea the U.S has never needed Canada or Mexico.
Mexico better than Canada and Great Britain confirmed?NAFTA is a waste, we don't need Canada or Mexico cuz we are America 8)Yea the U.S has never needed Canada or Mexico.Spoiler(https://i.imgur.com/uc5wMTW.jpg)[close]
No mass deportations: Glad to see you're always high, or just not in touch with anyone in the US south - deportations on masse have for sure been occuring :En masse means happening all at once.
http://www.businessinsider.com/mexico-preparations-for-mass-deportations-by-donald-trump-2017-2
For some reason, I was thinking on mass, but wanted to say en masse, and typed the middle. Canadian education system!No mass deportations: Glad to see you're always high, or just not in touch with anyone in the US south - deportations on masse have for sure been occuring :En masse means happening all at once.
http://www.businessinsider.com/mexico-preparations-for-mass-deportations-by-donald-trump-2017-2
As for mass deportations, well...
>135 deportees
France mimicking the US
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-39779548/watch-le-pen-plagiarises-fillon-speech
Does that travel warning apply to every country in Europe?https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/alertswarnings/Europe.html
Its silly anyway. It's not like Europe is in a Civil War or something.
Travel warning issued against all of Europe, all Europeans are terrorists confirmed 8)
But hey, if it makes muh voter base feel safe.
That's standard following terrorist attacks etc, although applying it to the entirety of Europe is a bit pointless; IS aren't about to bomb Portugal.
Because its discount Spain.That's standard following terrorist attacks etc, although applying it to the entirety of Europe is a bit pointless; IS aren't about to bomb Portugal.
Why wouldn't they?
Hang on though, a travel warning is very different. Surely that means that the US is saying "be careful travelling to these countries" rather than doing anything to limit immigration.No putting a travel alert administered by the state dept is not normal for Europe, this is a first. And I know schools and universities do take it seriously, regarding summer programs and trips to Europe I'm sure there will be a decline
That's standard following terrorist attacks etc, although applying it to the entirety of Europe is a bit pointless; IS aren't about to bomb Portugal.
So ridiculous that Trump is placing checks on EU travellers, all we've done is let several million unchecked people from a warzone into our countries jeez what a tyrant.
Yeah I read through the list. Afghanistan, Sudan, Eritrea...
Isreal and Turkey also make sense, kind of. Then comes Europe :P All of it...
How often does one have to point out that nearly all terrorist attacks weren't performed by refugees?
By all accounts, the European continent hasn't ever been as safe as it is at the moment.
The IRA was more of threat than ISIS ever was/will be.When you look in mirrors do you even see yourself?
The IRA was more of threat than ISIS ever was/will be.Err wouldn't go to that extent...
Oh please, the murder rate in the US is 4.3 times higher than the murder rate in Germany or 5.57 times higher than the murder rate in the Netherlands...
Is the US save, yes! Is the EU save, yes!
And it is true, it is probably the safest time on the European continent since like ever.
And while ISIS fighters posed a refugees on 13/11, they were still French. THe Brussels attacks were performed by Belgiums... Nice attacks were performed by a Tunesian who had been living in France since 2005 (6 years before the Syrian civil war started)
Granted the German 2016 attacks were performed by someone who entered as a refugee, but that is it for the larger terror attacks. The rest were so small scaled and only perpetrated in name of ISIS rather than the terrorists themselves being likely to actually have been part of ISIS that I still cannot see the point of how enormous a threat ISIS is to the EU.
The IRA was more of threat than ISIS ever was/will be.
I wonder, how many of those terror attacks were committed be people who had recently been radicalized by or in the 6 countries listed? Which may not have been in the travel ban, ofc, but still shows those countries pose security threatsVery few. A majority seemed to be radicalized by international terrorist groups, or claimed to have committed their killings in the name of a terror group based in one of those countries. It shows they pose a security threat, but its all rhetoric in terms of what a government should actually do about it. Its like how animal rights activists use seals as a way to turn people against hunters. Seals probably are the smallest problem but they make such an easy example with which to win people over. Radicalized refugees are just an easy way to claim an actual problem shouldn't be solved, because the numbers show - people fleeing tyranny and civil war don't want to get extradited to a country they just fled from. I give zero fucks about Muslims or their problems but claiming they are a major threat to national security that requires immediate attention is just plain illogical.
given the EU’s larger population, the per million people fatality rate for the US and the EU as a whole are virtually identical (0.62 for the US and 0.60 for the EU). By contrast, the injury rate in the EU is much higher (0.61 for the US and 1.34 for the EU).
Btw. from your own link:Quotegiven the EU’s larger population, the per million people fatality rate for the US and the EU as a whole are virtually identical (0.62 for the US and 0.60 for the EU). By contrast, the injury rate in the EU is much higher (0.61 for the US and 1.34 for the EU).
So my point still stands, the US is just as save as the EU.
Also RickPerry, you realise that the EU has over double the US population right? That's including the Paris attacks, which are single handedly half of the total number killed. I'm not saying not to include it, but if you were to look up until October 2015 instead it'd be a ridiculous difference (over twice as many deaths per capita in the US if I'm not mistaken). If you were to extend it to include 2016, you'd have a massive relative drop in the EU and a massive increase in the US (Orlando etc).
"Obama doesn’t need to look any further than France, which last year suffered 532 casualties (killings and woundings) versus 396 in the US during the first seven full years of the Obama administration from 2009 through 2015."
Yeah. Wasnt trying to discredit it.
Figures differ on the source, hence the roughly. Also, im pretty sure the 400 is with Turkey as well, otherwise it is moreso 300ish.
Great memes here tbh
A considerable number of clips from that vid were from riots cuaed by football, political protests in South-America and anti-government protests in TurkeyArguably the most concerning part of that was the comments made by some of the Muslims in the video, and the ideology they carry. Also the clips from that German University, this all is just a big problem and to be perfectly honest Europe should not be taking in these refugees in such high numbers with so little concern over who they are.
A considerable number of clips from that vid were from riots cuaed by football, political protests in South-America and anti-government protests in Turkey
Arguably the most concerning part of that was the comments made by some of the Muslims in the video, and the ideology they carry. Also the clips from that German University, this all is just a big problem and to be perfectly honest Europe should not be taking in these refugees in such high numbers with so little concern over who they are.
Pretty much. Though the """refugees""" chimping out and screaming "MONEYYYY!" at the camera isn't enough evidence of ill intent for Riddlez and Mr "The IRA are worse than ISIS" Olafson.
I'm pretty sure most EU apologists would take it up the ass by a rapeugee and still claim that it's good because they've been culturally enriched like never before ¯\_(ツ)_/¯wat
Given all refugees from Syria had to pass through at least one safe country to get to Europe, under international law they are no longer classed as refugees.
Given all refugees from Syria had to pass through at least one safe country to get to Europe, under international law they are no longer classed as refugees.
Then my other points still stand.
Can't blame them for choosing Germany, The Netherlands over 'safe' countries. Besides, those countries are at maximum capacity anyways.
Definitely not cultural enrichtment... really dont get that argument. At the moment it doesnt nessecarily benefit anything really... though there will come a time in the foreseeable future where we either need to fuck more, or need moor immigrants.
Definitely not cultural enrichtment... really dont get that argument. At the moment it doesnt nessecarily benefit anything really... though there will come a time in the foreseeable future where we either need to fuck more, or need moor immigrants.No we dont need to fuck more and we dont need more fucking immigrants.
On a completely seperate note: the Dutch commander of the armed forces went on record stating populism is an indirect threat to our country's safety. I don't disagree, I am suprised he is getting involved in political affairs publicly... the military usually tries to stay well clear of that.
Anyone who opposes the EU is alt-right!I mean they've basically been held in providence by the alt-right, despite all of them being relatively shitty politicians.
You Europhiles and your labels ::)
I just love how the media blacked out and didn't report on the emails as if the bias wasn't already strong enough. I
"Next time guys! Surely, next time!"-Democracts in 2016
Also, the army was put in place because of the massive rioting of the people that did not want to vote for either Macaroni or Le Penis. Not because of "le scary Muslims", you massive sperg.
massive rioting
"Speaking after an emergency meeting of top security officials, Prime Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said all elite units were on top alert for the election to back up the 50,000 police already earmarked for special election duty."
"Nothing must be allowed to impede the fundamental democratic process of our country. It falls to us not to give in to fear and intimidation and manipulation which would play into the hands of the enemy."
QuoteDo the French consider their own civilians "the enemy"?
Isn't that the reason behind all the support for Le Pen? Because she is going to fight for "their interests."?
So which is it?
Not trying to gloat, but are things seriously that bad that France (and other EU countries) had to put armed police and the actual military on the streets during an election? From a British perspective that seems insane.
As for other countries, there were no soldiers deployed to guard polling booths during the Dutch elections.
This is coming from the guy that thinks the EU is some sort of race mixing project lel.
Well that didn't take long.
http://www.politico.eu/article/juncker-the-french-spend-too-much-money/
And this from a man who was allegedly drunk again at a UN summit in Cyprus last week. Juncker has already ruled out a second term (quite unusual I might add-he's basically admitted he's not up to it) but he should go now to spare himself further embarrassment.
Can't argue with democracy, even if it voted in the other favor. I just love how the media blacked out and didn't report on the emails as if the bias wasn't already strong enough. I hope there's some rife stuff in there for the next few years.
Anyhow, to close with some final words: France, once the people that stopped the Muslim invasion of Europe, have now embraced Islam. It's all come full circle.
They are, but that's not related to the elections. A massive number of soldiers and police are already deployed 24/7 in France atm. It's been that way for ages, which from what I heard has been really taking its toll on both military and police forces through exhaustion from the sheer number of hours they're having to put in.
Wasn't there also suspicions that some of the "leaks" where fake?
Anyhow former PM Manuel Valls links up with En Marche! Opinions?
Anyhow former PM Manuel Valls links up with En Marche! Opinions?
Though, really... The fact you need to report on it either means:
- Your country has so few problems there is nothing else to report
- There genuinly is nothing to report that day
- Your journalists aren't capable of doing more
- There is news, but it's too complex to dumb down for a news reportSpoilerNah really those reporters were all hoping for a scandal, couldn't find one, so they created one.
It's all a leftist conspiracy of the Goldman-Sachs news agencies who want to reinstall communism.SpoilerNah really it was the democrats[close][close]
Saudi Arabia one of the most oppressive countries in the middle east and ally to the USA "the land of the free".at least the Saudi country is not deeply enveloped in civil war from a series of terrible dictators. They can at least be worked with to be less oppressive in the future, whereas most other countries in the middle east (excluding Israel) literally have no government in power and instead are fighting each other.
Saudi Arabia one of the most oppressive countries in the middle east and ally to the USA "the land of the free".They aren't a great country and SA funds a lot of Sunni terrorists but they're a major trade ally and military ally in the region. It's better to have a friend, however bad he may be, then be alone when you charge in.
I can see why they are valuable to the U.S in the region. But its honestly stupid to sell them a fuckton of weapons seeing they don't really co-operate with the U.S as much as they should and, you know. Hate Israel.
Besides, it's better to have Saudia Arabia as a stable ally in the Middle East, with Iraq and Syria in shambles and Iran as a religious state.Saudi Arabia one of the most oppressive countries in the middle east and ally to the USA "the land of the free".They aren't a great country and SA funds a lot of Sunni terrorists but they're a major trade ally and military ally in the region. It's better to have a friend, however bad he may be, then be alone when you charge in.
From what I've heard there is a massive trade deal that is/went down but I'd be interested to see if Trump could get SA to take in Syrian refugees so Europe can stop cucking itself over them
Theodin, Canada's oil industry (or should I say, Alberta's oil industry) is fucked mainly by Quebec, especially that moron Coderre in Montreal who objects to pipelines on environmental grounds but then dumps 8 billion litres of raw sewage into the Saint Lawrence River. Naturally the Quebecois expect their equalisation payments to be funded by Albertan oil however. Tbh we should have done what the Americans did in Louisiana with the Cajun and properly make them integrate, but it's way too late for that now.A lot of the Frenchies in Louisiana where forced out of Newfoundland and Acadia by the British Government. Would have been to many in Quebec, they caused enough rebellions as it was.
Theodin, Canada's oil industry (or should I say, Alberta's oil industry) is fucked mainly by Quebec, especially that moron Coderre in Montreal who objects to pipelines on environmental grounds but then dumps 8 billion litres of raw sewage into the Saint Lawrence River. Naturally the Quebecois expect their equalisation payments to be funded by Albertan oil however. Tbh we should have done what the Americans did in Louisiana with the Cajun and properly make them integrate, but it's way too late for that now.Oh for sure. Also the fact that BC won't let pipelines through either, leaving all the oil trapped in Alberta with no real way to get it out.
BC can do no wrong, they have the word 'British' in the title ;)True I forgot
Besides, it's better to have Saudia Arabia as a stable ally in the Middle East, with Iraq and Syria in shambles and Iran as a religious state.Saudi Arabia one of the most oppressive countries in the middle east and ally to the USA "the land of the free".They aren't a great country and SA funds a lot of Sunni terrorists but they're a major trade ally and military ally in the region. It's better to have a friend, however bad he may be, then be alone when you charge in.
From what I've heard there is a massive trade deal that is/went down but I'd be interested to see if Trump could get SA to take in Syrian refugees so Europe can stop cucking itself over them
You realize those states don't accept refugees because those countries already repress political liberty, right? Taking in refugees from an active rebellion in a close country doesn't seem like the best move for your political stability. They also control OPEC (which fucked Canada, by the way) and as Steven said, they aren't hellbent on destroying Israel. Doesn't make them a 10/10 ally but it's more like 7/10, and in the mid east you take what you can get
Edit: Holy shit, anyone else see the deals reaching in Saudi Arabia? this is truly history
Where did I say that Saudi Arabia wasn't? Of course they're a religious state, but the difference is Iran believes in the destruction of infidelity, and Saudi Arabia doesn't. There's difference between a religious fanatic state and a religious stateBesides, it's better to have Saudia Arabia as a stable ally in the Middle East, with Iraq and Syria in shambles and Iran as a religious state.Saudi Arabia one of the most oppressive countries in the middle east and ally to the USA "the land of the free".They aren't a great country and SA funds a lot of Sunni terrorists but they're a major trade ally and military ally in the region. It's better to have a friend, however bad he may be, then be alone when you charge in.
From what I've heard there is a massive trade deal that is/went down but I'd be interested to see if Trump could get SA to take in Syrian refugees so Europe can stop cucking itself over them
You realize those states don't accept refugees because those countries already repress political liberty, right? Taking in refugees from an active rebellion in a close country doesn't seem like the best move for your political stability. They also control OPEC (which fucked Canada, by the way) and as Steven said, they aren't hellbent on destroying Israel. Doesn't make them a 10/10 ally but it's more like 7/10, and in the mid east you take what you can get
Edit: Holy shit, anyone else see the deals reaching in Saudi Arabia? this is truly history
Like Saudi Arabia isn't a religious state..
Saudi Arabia is worse towards women than even Iran is.
Good, I'm still sad that Donald Trump is your president constantly making a fool of himself.Who are you virtue signalling to?
(Also he's making policies which are bad for the entire planet.)
Trump met with world leaders at the NATO headquarters today, hilarity ensued:Very short videos of the highlightshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWISsAanWWw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WqJkWntgSg
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Trump met with world leaders at the NATO headquarters today, hilarity ensued:Very short videos of the highlightshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWISsAanWWw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WqJkWntgSg
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This man Trump is the biggest meme to ever touch the earth. That fucking NATO diss had me lmfao!!! and the fucking Montenegro guy getting pushed to the side honestly had me on the floor rofling!!!
You may get the impression that Trump was off the rails during the meet up, but that's not really the case. If you watch the full broadcast you'll notice there's was A LOT of tension between Trump and the Europhile leaders, with both sides playing games throughout the day.LOL
Especially Macron! He was... less than respectful.
You may get the impression that Trump was off the rails during the meet up, but that's not really the case. If you watch the full broadcast you'll notice there's was A LOT of tension between Trump and the Europhile leaders, with both sides playing games throughout the day.
Especially Macron! He was... less than respectful.
Trump is such a moron it hurts. He brought up this retarded primal alpha male demeanour and when other country leaders start paying him back in his own coin he starts to behave like a petulant child.
I don't think you regret joining a military alliance with half of Europe and the only superpower remaining because your head of state gets moved aside at a conference by the US President. Where's the logic there???Trump met with world leaders at the NATO headquarters today, hilarity ensued:Very short videos of the highlightshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWISsAanWWw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WqJkWntgSg
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This man Trump is the biggest meme to ever touch the earth. That fucking NATO diss had me lmfao!!! and the fucking Montenegro guy getting pushed to the side honestly had me on the floor rofling!!!
And Montenegro who just joined NATO... I'm sure they're regretting it already hahah
Looks like we have a late entry as to which world "leader" can be the biggest douche-bag at the NATO summit, so Trump and Macron may have to step up their game if they wish to compete...FacePalmSpoiler(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAxVI_1WAAAUBrP.jpg:large)[close]
One more day until the Tories get a new leader. Please god have it be Bernier. If O'Leary gets it I'm voting NDP probably.He dropped out ages ago lol
I got worried for a second and though Bernier dropped out, cool that he'll be the next leader then.One more day until the Tories get a new leader. Please god have it be Bernier. If O'Leary gets it I'm voting NDP probably.He dropped out ages ago lol
With all the fuck ups Trump has made I am suprised there isn't yet an uproar... Literally if ANY other country leader did this, they'd be cast aside and sent to the shitters.Political drama and accusations are nothing. Sure he isn't the best president, but he certainly started off with a hell of a disadvantage considering half of the US is brainwashed and the other half are stubborn, so you pick your poison but the amount of people who can make their own decisions is very low. Anyone who thinks Trump shouldn't be president right now is just stupid, and removing him does no good either. Hell, you can even impeach him and still not remove him, but the fact of the matter is at the end of 4 years you can see what he did and didn't do, and judge him then. I can guarantee you he will make America stronger in the world standing, whether it be through reminding NATO members to pay their dues or increasing military spending, or up scaling general soldiers and personnel equipment.
With all the fuck ups CNN has manufactured with 0 evidence and baseless, vague rumors from "anonymous sources" about memos that may or may not exist
One more day until the Tories get a new leader. Please god have it be Bernier. If O'Leary gets it I'm voting NDP probably.
When Hillary Clinton used her email to send classified information to people with clearance Republicans freaked out.While everyone's heard that sensational story, what no one knows is:
Donald Trump gave classified information to the Russians but when he did it Republicans where okay with it.
Also "I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job... I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off." -Donald J Trump
Why do people care if US and Russia are working together and are becoming closer allies? As a citizen of the US i would love to see US and Russia form a tightly knit alliance that no other nation's on earth could contest. Why does the US always have to be the "good guy" cant we stop with the caring big brother act and start looking out for ourselves.
US the new edgy bad boy.
All it takes to be an edgey bad boy is not hating Russia?
I better start cutting my wrists then.
All of your points are irrelevant Trump commited high treason and he's to stupid to realize it.When Hillary Clinton used her email to send classified information to people with clearance Republicans freaked out.While everyone's heard that sensational story, what no one knows is:
Donald Trump gave classified information to the Russians but when he did it Republicans where okay with it.
Also "I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job... I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off." -Donald J Trump
1. The relevance of the intelligence
2. The classification level
3. Whether Israel/CIA told him he could
4. What Russia gave in return
etc. But oh, Trump gave someone intelligence, must be a Russian puppet!
It's like you all ignored that Comey, in typical Comey fashion, told a high ranking politician that they weren't under investigation when he was ready to commence investigation. He also mislead CONGRESS, which is a big no no. But because Trump's been accused of being a Russian puppet, and he fired an incompetent FBI director, he MUST be a Russian puppet!
Why do people care if US and Russia are working together and are becoming closer allies? As a citizen of the US i would love to see US and Russia form a tightly knit alliance that no other nation's on earth could contest. Why does the US always have to be the "good guy" cant we stop with the caring big brother act and start looking out for ourselves.
US the new edgy bad boy.
It is exactly this kind of stunts that I meant.... International politics is literally about details like that. It wouldn't be suprising at all if during negotiations this would be brought up.
It is exactly this kind of stunts that I meant.... International politics is literally about details like that. It wouldn't be suprising at all if during negotiations this would be brought up.
Shit boys the Italians are pissed that Trump didn't wear the stylin headphones they provided.
Guess I better stock up on Dejornos
Good talk, i'm convinced nowAll of your points are irrelevant Trump commited high treason and he's to stupid to realize it.When Hillary Clinton used her email to send classified information to people with clearance Republicans freaked out.While everyone's heard that sensational story, what no one knows is:
Donald Trump gave classified information to the Russians but when he did it Republicans where okay with it.
Also "I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job... I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off." -Donald J Trump
1. The relevance of the intelligence
2. The classification level
3. Whether Israel/CIA told him he could
4. What Russia gave in return
etc. But oh, Trump gave someone intelligence, must be a Russian puppet!
It's like you all ignored that Comey, in typical Comey fashion, told a high ranking politician that they weren't under investigation when he was ready to commence investigation. He also mislead CONGRESS, which is a big no no. But because Trump's been accused of being a Russian puppet, and he fired an incompetent FBI director, he MUST be a Russian puppet!
All of your points are irrelevant Trump commited high treason and he's to stupid to realize it.When Hillary Clinton used her email to send classified information to people with clearance Republicans freaked out.While everyone's heard that sensational story, what no one knows is:
Donald Trump gave classified information to the Russians but when he did it Republicans where okay with it.
Also "I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job... I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off." -Donald J Trump
1. The relevance of the intelligence
2. The classification level
3. Whether Israel/CIA told him he could
4. What Russia gave in return
etc. But oh, Trump gave someone intelligence, must be a Russian puppet!
It's like you all ignored that Comey, in typical Comey fashion, told a high ranking politician that they weren't under investigation when he was ready to commence investigation. He also mislead CONGRESS, which is a big no no. But because Trump's been accused of being a Russian puppet, and he fired an incompetent FBI director, he MUST be a Russian puppet!
commited high treason and he's to stupid to realize it.
commited high treason and he's to stupid to realize it.
Lmao, Trump is hilarioustrump probably is fluent in Italian and has his eyes closed so he could hear betterSpoilerhttps://twitter.com/BBCJLandale/status/868418708502441986[close]
Lmao, Trump is hilarioustrump probably is fluent in Italian and has his eyes closed so he could hear betterSpoilerhttps://twitter.com/BBCJLandale/status/868418708502441986[close]
Lmao, Trump is hilarioustrump probably is fluent in Italian and has his eyes closed so he could hear betterSpoilerhttps://twitter.com/BBCJLandale/status/868418708502441986[close]
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Any Canadians following the Conservative leadership election? Looking very close between Bernier and Scheer but looks like latter might just nudge it.Didn't even realize Bernier had competition :o. Will be interesting to see.
Scheer comes across as a really nice guy, none of this fake shit Trudeau does either, he's pretty genuine from what I can see. He also wasn't hankering after the job for years like a lot of the others and probably just wanted to be Speaker. Hope he wins at the next election.I'd say he'll have a fair chance honestly. If he can grill Trudeau in the house of commons and is a decent campaigner that's all it should take.
he's pretty genuine from what I can see.
Scheer comes across as a really nice guy, none of this fake shit Trudeau does either, he's pretty genuine from what I can see. He also wasn't hankering after the job for years like a lot of the others and probably just wanted to be Speaker. Hope he wins at the next election.I'd say he'll have a fair chance honestly. If he can grill Trudeau in the house of commons and is a decent campaigner that's all it should take.
June you do occasionally say things that I can respect, but when you start criticising people based on their use of a second language you lose all credibility and just come across as an asshole.
Mfw Canada's emissions were already meeting clean standards before we introduced a carbon tax but apparently introducing more useless taxes means we want to destroy the environmentScheer comes across as a really nice guy, none of this fake shit Trudeau does either, he's pretty genuine from what I can see. He also wasn't hankering after the job for years like a lot of the others and probably just wanted to be Speaker. Hope he wins at the next election.I'd say he'll have a fair chance honestly. If he can grill Trudeau in the house of commons and is a decent campaigner that's all it should take.
I read up a little on his Wikipedia page (I know great source) but according to the page he wants to remove the carbon tax. So is he one of those cuckservatives who don't believe in global warming?
If that is the case then that would make him a terrible candidate on it's own.
Furrnox, its not that he doesn't believe in global warming. Its that the carbon tax is pointless and just ramps up the price on everything for almost no environmental benefit. The extra 2000$ it may cost some people will be hard on poor families or people with only minimum wage jobs. And if you live in Canada (it being very big) you need to travel quite a bit so its not even going to stop people from using cars because no one is biking 2 hours to pickup groceries. We're around number 10 in terms of Greenhouse emissions. Even if the tax did drop our emissions it wouldn't make a dent in the grand scheme of things.Scheer comes across as a really nice guy, none of this fake shit Trudeau does either, he's pretty genuine from what I can see. He also wasn't hankering after the job for years like a lot of the others and probably just wanted to be Speaker. Hope he wins at the next election.I'd say he'll have a fair chance honestly. If he can grill Trudeau in the house of commons and is a decent campaigner that's all it should take.
I read up a little on his Wikipedia page (I know great source) but according to the page he wants to remove the carbon tax. So is he one of those cuckservatives who don't believe in global warming?
If that is the case then that would make him a terrible candidate on it's own.
Furrnox, its not that he doesn't believe in global warming. Its that the carbon tax is pointless and just ramps up the price on everything for almost no environmental benefit. The extra 2000$ it may cost some people will be hard on poor families or people with only minimum wage jobs. And if you live in Canada (it being very big) you need to travel quite a bit so its not even going to stop people from using cars because no one is biking 2 hours to pickup groceries. We're around number 10 in terms of Greenhouse emissions. Even if the tax did drop our emissions it wouldn't make a dent in the grand scheme of things.Scheer comes across as a really nice guy, none of this fake shit Trudeau does either, he's pretty genuine from what I can see. He also wasn't hankering after the job for years like a lot of the others and probably just wanted to be Speaker. Hope he wins at the next election.I'd say he'll have a fair chance honestly. If he can grill Trudeau in the house of commons and is a decent campaigner that's all it should take.
I read up a little on his Wikipedia page (I know great source) but according to the page he wants to remove the carbon tax. So is he one of those cuckservatives who don't believe in global warming?
If that is the case then that would make him a terrible candidate on it's own.
Furrnox, its not that he doesn't believe in global warming. Its that the carbon tax is pointless and just ramps up the price on everything for almost no environmental benefit. The extra 2000$ it may cost some people will be hard on poor families or people with only minimum wage jobs. And if you live in Canada (it being very big) you need to travel quite a bit so its not even going to stop people from using cars because no one is biking 2 hours to pickup groceries. We're around number 10 in terms of Greenhouse emissions. Even if the tax did drop our emissions it wouldn't make a dent in the grand scheme of things.Scheer comes across as a really nice guy, none of this fake shit Trudeau does either, he's pretty genuine from what I can see. He also wasn't hankering after the job for years like a lot of the others and probably just wanted to be Speaker. Hope he wins at the next election.I'd say he'll have a fair chance honestly. If he can grill Trudeau in the house of commons and is a decent campaigner that's all it should take.
I read up a little on his Wikipedia page (I know great source) but according to the page he wants to remove the carbon tax. So is he one of those cuckservatives who don't believe in global warming?
If that is the case then that would make him a terrible candidate on it's own.
This is fucking beautiful.Spoilerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLdEYw3ginA[close]
I don't think you regret joining a military alliance with half of Europe and the only superpower remaining because your head of state gets moved aside at a conference by the US President. Where's the logic there???Trump met with world leaders at the NATO headquarters today, hilarity ensued:Very short videos of the highlightshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWISsAanWWw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WqJkWntgSg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH5XeHaEEaY[close]
This man Trump is the biggest meme to ever touch the earth. That fucking NATO diss had me lmfao!!! and the fucking Montenegro guy getting pushed to the side honestly had me on the floor rofling!!!
And Montenegro who just joined NATO... I'm sure they're regretting it already hahah
OhI don't think you regret joining a military alliance with half of Europe and the only superpower remaining because your head of state gets moved aside at a conference by the US President. Where's the logic there???Trump met with world leaders at the NATO headquarters today, hilarity ensued:Very short videos of the highlightshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWISsAanWWw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WqJkWntgSg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH5XeHaEEaY[close]
This man Trump is the biggest meme to ever touch the earth. That fucking NATO diss had me lmfao!!! and the fucking Montenegro guy getting pushed to the side honestly had me on the floor rofling!!!
And Montenegro who just joined NATO... I'm sure they're regretting it already hahah
It was a joke :P
My god people were mocking Trump for his signature but take a look at Merkel's... and wtf is Juncker's even?Spoiler(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.4cdn.org%2Fpol%2F1496085788947.jpg&hash=6e5b43504a985a39f773b158a2cd9ca35dce30ed)[close]
Trump pulled back from the Paris Agreement.No warming in 10 years.
Way to go.
Well it's still better than uf they'd stayed in. Tney'd have delayed everything and caused nothing but trouble.
The sheer meme this guy is, though. Calling accelerated global warming a 'fairy tale'.
Theodin yes let's just go against all scientific evidence.Nice try tho
Trump pulled back from the Paris Agreement.
Way to go.
Well it's still better than uf they'd stayed in. Tney'd have delayed everything and caused nothing but trouble.
The sheer meme this guy is, though. Calling accelerated global warming a 'fairy tale'.
Than I won't too! Look how easy that wasTheodin yes let's just go against all scientific evidence.Nice try tho
Well, it's not blindly. And I dont see any facts that have been posted on this thread.Than I won't too! Look how easy that wasTheodin yes let's just go against all scientific evidence.Nice try tho
Blindly defending someone and ignoring facts. What's your IQ Theo?
Climate change is a myth created by the Chinese in order to make America less competitive:/
Well, it's not blindly. And I dont see any facts that have been posted on this thread.Than I won't too! Look how easy that wasTheodin yes let's just go against all scientific evidence.Nice try tho
Blindly defending someone and ignoring facts. What's your IQ Theo?
And his IQ is probably higher than yours. He did get CR afterall.
I believe in climate change, but calling them science deniers is outright wrong and completely different from what your post used to say.Well, it's not blindly. And I dont see any facts that have been posted on this thread.Than I won't too! Look how easy that wasTheodin yes let's just go against all scientific evidence.Nice try tho
Blindly defending someone and ignoring facts. What's your IQ Theo?
And his IQ is probably higher than yours. He did get CR afterall.
CR means jack shit.
People who deny global warming are science deniers.
I believe in climate change, but calling them science deniers is outright wrong and completely different from what your post used to say.Well, it's not blindly. And I dont see any facts that have been posted on this thread.Than I won't too! Look how easy that wasTheodin yes let's just go against all scientific evidence.Nice try tho
Blindly defending someone and ignoring facts. What's your IQ Theo?
And his IQ is probably higher than yours. He did get CR afterall.
CR means jack shit.
The overwhelming majority of scientists agree that global warming is real. So I don't see why we would need to post any evidence when it's clearly accepted science.
Global warming is natural, and the only thing that I've seen to be true is that with the oceans heating up it releases more carbon dioxide into the air, but other than that we're not doing that much. Almost everyone believes in science, and I'm sure Theodin does too, so before you just go out and generalize everyone, you should probably say something that doesn't make you look like an idiot. The equivilant to what you just said is "People who don't eat meat condemn food production."
Well, it's not blindly. And I dont see any facts that have been posted on this thread.Than I won't too! Look how easy that wasTheodin yes let's just go against all scientific evidence.Nice try tho
Blindly defending someone and ignoring facts. What's your IQ Theo?
And his IQ is probably higher than yours. He did get CR afterall.
That global warming have stagnated is great but that doesn't mean we should go back to no regulations and pumping out as much CO2 & CH4 as we want as Trump suggests.Not what I said.
We should continue to look for renewable and envioromental friendly alternatives to prepare for the future.
97% of scientists say that national review is a poor source.Damn.
Deny that, bitch.
Than I won't too! Look how easy that wasTheodin yes let's just go against all scientific evidence.Nice try tho
Blindly defending someone and ignoring facts. What's your IQ Theo?
Than I won't too! Look how easy that wasTheodin yes let's just go against all scientific evidence.Nice try tho
Blindly defending someone and ignoring facts. What's your IQ Theo?
Well Theodin just provided both, now where are your alternative facts marceaux? We are waiting tic tic
I expect big things from someone who must have such a high IQ as yours.
Guys come on stop getting at each other even though I'm know for starting a lot of shit in my past. Lets all please enjoy this amazing game while it lasts, there is no need to be fighting over some IQ bullshit when it has nothing to do with really anything... I really hope we can just get over this and move on and I know for a 100% fact after I post this comment I'm gonna get shat on by a lot of people, but please lets just enjoy each other and have fun. I'm not respected by the NW Community but lets please drop it thanks.You're clearly new around here. This is the politics thread, and this thread is meant for stuff like this. Just because you want to stick up for your reg leader's perverted sense of "higher IQ" and his upper intelligence when realistically he's failed to prove anything to this forum.
Jake I'm not new around here no offense but ive been in this game longer than you. I'm just saying the kind of things said between Marc and other players... Needs to end. Also I never was sticking up for anyone wherever you got that from I'm just saying it probs needs to be dropped. I'm done now dadGuys come on stop getting at each other even though I'm know for starting a lot of shit in my past. Lets all please enjoy this amazing game while it lasts, there is no need to be fighting over some IQ bullshit when it has nothing to do with really anything... I really hope we can just get over this and move on and I know for a 100% fact after I post this comment I'm gonna get shat on by a lot of people, but please lets just enjoy each other and have fun. I'm not respected by the NW Community but lets please drop it thanks.You're clearly new around here. This is the politics thread, and this thread is meant for stuff like this. Just because you want to stick up for your reg leader's perverted sense of "higher IQ" and his upper intelligence when realistically he's failed to prove anything to this forum.
Now, hopefully leftist globalism doesn't destroy Europe before its too late. Continue standing strong Poland, and your friends in Eastern Europe! Don't let refugees in if you don't want them!
LOLJake I'm not new around here no offense but ive been in this game longer than you. I'm just saying the kind of things said between Marc and other players... Needs to end. Also I never was sticking up for anyone wherever you got that from I'm just saying it probs needs to be dropped. I'm done now dadGuys come on stop getting at each other even though I'm know for starting a lot of shit in my past. Lets all please enjoy this amazing game while it lasts, there is no need to be fighting over some IQ bullshit when it has nothing to do with really anything... I really hope we can just get over this and move on and I know for a 100% fact after I post this comment I'm gonna get shat on by a lot of people, but please lets just enjoy each other and have fun. I'm not respected by the NW Community but lets please drop it thanks.You're clearly new around here. This is the politics thread, and this thread is meant for stuff like this. Just because you want to stick up for your reg leader's perverted sense of "higher IQ" and his upper intelligence when realistically he's failed to prove anything to this forum.
Now, hopefully leftist globalism doesn't destroy Europe before its too late. Continue standing strong Poland, and your friends in Eastern Europe! Don't let refugees in if you don't want them!
Excuse yourself I didn't cause jack kiddo it was my Colonel and you talking about IQ LOOOOOL yeah shut the fuck up I'm just trying to make this a fun community and place to be around. Unlike you being a regular shit hole to everyone acting like you're a know it all or a someone and you always get in peoples business shut up. And the "Keep your shit off of it" motherfucker what are you gonna do about it you're a joke to me right now what could you POSSIBLY do lmaoLOLJake I'm not new around here no offense but ive been in this game longer than you. I'm just saying the kind of things said between Marc and other players... Needs to end. Also I never was sticking up for anyone wherever you got that from I'm just saying it probs needs to be dropped. I'm done now dadGuys come on stop getting at each other even though I'm know for starting a lot of shit in my past. Lets all please enjoy this amazing game while it lasts, there is no need to be fighting over some IQ bullshit when it has nothing to do with really anything... I really hope we can just get over this and move on and I know for a 100% fact after I post this comment I'm gonna get shat on by a lot of people, but please lets just enjoy each other and have fun. I'm not respected by the NW Community but lets please drop it thanks.You're clearly new around here. This is the politics thread, and this thread is meant for stuff like this. Just because you want to stick up for your reg leader's perverted sense of "higher IQ" and his upper intelligence when realistically he's failed to prove anything to this forum.
Now, hopefully leftist globalism doesn't destroy Europe before its too late. Continue standing strong Poland, and your friends in Eastern Europe! Don't let refugees in if you don't want them!
But seriously, this thread is for actual talk, not the senseless banter which you are known for. Keep your shit off of it.
Funny thing is... Even if you don't believe in global warming (of which there are far more sceptics than climate change) or climate change in general, you'd have to be a complete science denier to say humanity isn't destroying this planet.
I mean, everything that causes climate change is also doing something else to harm this planet (acidifying ocean as an example).
Even if you don't believe in that, renewable energy is a must since we're not going to last much longer on carbon-based fuel from fossil sources.
And if you deny that.... Well you're either overoptimistic about space travel or you should start primary school.
I do not need to prove a point when your idiotic arguments make the point for me. I could type out 10 pages of reasoning but no matter how much i type or whatever facts/evidence i provide it wont magically cure your retardation and make your brain start working properly.
I think the main current issue is that Trump wants to ignore climate change & renewable energy altogether and go back to "clean coal".
Even going as far as to cut almost all government research on the subject.
I do not need to prove a point when your idiotic arguments make the point for me. I could type out 10 pages of reasoning but no matter how much i type or whatever facts/evidence i provide it wont magically cure your retardation and make your brain start working properly.
Shut up, you literally think Paladins is better than Overwatch. Everything that comes out of your mouth is nonsense. Please make an argument so you can get thrashed.I think the main current issue is that Trump wants to ignore climate change & renewable energy altogether and go back to "clean coal".
Even going as far as to cut almost all government research on the subject.
Taking the focus away from climate change & renewable energy =/= ignoring it. It just is not one of his top concerns, nor should it be.
Stop. Literally every-time you post I can literally visual you frothing at the mouth. You can call it little man syndrome, but the only little man here is you. Anytime someone tells you the truth about how you (and for the most part, your whole regiment) are trash at NW, you throw out pages of rants clawing at whatever small achievements you managed to scrap together. I alone have probably accomplished more than your whole regiment, and that is pretty sad.
Please, you are gonna have to do better than that my boy.
Please take regimental fights off this thread, Marceaux and Apoc. Discuss politics or nothing at all.
I do not need to prove a point when your idiotic arguments make the point for me. I could type out 10 pages of reasoning but no matter how much i type or whatever facts/evidence i provide it wont magically cure your retardation and make your brain start working properly.We're not running out of carbon based fuels, so I'm not quite sure what you're talking about there. We will be able to use oil and other fuels for a long time to come. And to point at the USA and Europe as the problems for climate change is unrealistic and really just childish, isn't it. The problem is that even with this Paris accord, with climate change efforts, that the big problems come from China and Russia. China will not hinder itself like the USA has for the past years in the name of the world, or the environment, so your best bet is to just adapt to the new climate. Russia and China are both guilty about lying on how much they're polluting, and it seems like the international community doesn't care about them, but when the U.S. puts serious strains on its economy for multiple years in an attempt to reduce a tiny amount of emissions, its ridiculous. Any progress the world tries to make is completely reversed by China alone, so until they change nothing will change. No, you cannot SJW your way into China and force them to change -- they won't. You can't ask them to save the planet, because they'll talk the talk and won't take any action. The US is acting in it's best interest for its own people by leaving the Paris accord, and if you think it's not for the best of America then you're just wrong.Funny thing is... Even if you don't believe in global warming (of which there are far more sceptics than climate change) or climate change in general, you'd have to be a complete science denier to say humanity isn't destroying this planet.
I mean, everything that causes climate change is also doing something else to harm this planet (acidifying ocean as an example).
Even if you don't believe in that, renewable energy is a must since we're not going to last much longer on carbon-based fuel from fossil sources.
And if you deny that.... Well you're either overoptimistic about space travel or you should start primary school.
^ This
The problem is this, do you do what is better for the world or for your country. If no nation chooses the world then we all die eventually and no countries win.
I do not need to prove a point when your idiotic arguments make the point for me. I could type out 10 pages of reasoning but no matter how much i type or whatever facts/evidence i provide it wont magically cure your retardation and make your brain start working properly.We're not running out of carbon based fuels, so I'm not quite sure what you're talking about there. We will be able to use oil and other fuels for a long time to come. And to point at the USA and Europe as the problems for climate change is unrealistic and really just childish, isn't it. The problem is that even with this Paris accord, with climate change efforts, that the big problems come from China and Russia. China will not hinder itself like the USA has for the past years in the name of the world, or the environment, so your best bet is to just adapt to the new climate. Russia and China are both guilty about lying on how much they're polluting, and it seems like the international community doesn't care about them, but when the U.S. puts serious strains on its economy for multiple years in an attempt to reduce a tiny amount of emissions, its ridiculous. Any progress the world tries to make is completely reversed by China alone, so until they change nothing will change. No, you cannot SJW your way into China and force them to change -- they won't. You can't ask them to save the planet, because they'll talk the talk and won't take any action. The US is acting in it's best interest for its own people by leaving the Paris accord, and if you think it's not for the best of America then you're just wrong.Funny thing is... Even if you don't believe in global warming (of which there are far more sceptics than climate change) or climate change in general, you'd have to be a complete science denier to say humanity isn't destroying this planet.
I mean, everything that causes climate change is also doing something else to harm this planet (acidifying ocean as an example).
Even if you don't believe in that, renewable energy is a must since we're not going to last much longer on carbon-based fuel from fossil sources.
And if you deny that.... Well you're either overoptimistic about space travel or you should start primary school.
^ This
China sees the strategic relevance of investing in renewable energy. Something the Dutch military is only starting to grasp now... still a ways ahead of the rest of NATO though.? More like the Chinese are tired of their terrible air quality (http://www.popsci.com/why-is-smog-in-china-so-bad).
As far as I know nuclear isn't currently renewable.
Nuclear energy is the way too go, and we don't have smog pollution on any scale close to China. There are so many nuclear plants on the east coast
Nuclear energy is the way too go, and we don't have smog pollution on any scale close to China. There are so many nuclear plants on the east coast
(https://www.ccair.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/LA-smog.jpg)
"On any scale close to China"
Lol that's nothing Marceaux
"On any scale close to China"
Lol that's nothing Marceaux
Nuclear energy is the way too go, and we don't have smog pollution on any scale close to China. There are so many nuclear plants on the east coast
(https://www.ccair.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/LA-smog.jpg)
False - https://gispub.epa.gov/air/trendsreport/2016/"On any scale close to China"
Lol that's nothing Marceaux
Clearly its nothing close to China. But it is getting worse and this could happen in a variety of cities across the country if we do not switch to alternative energy sources and cleaner/healthier standards across the board.
Do you think its ok to continue bad trends until a problem arises? Why not be proactive and prevent it before it happens?
False - https://gispub.epa.gov/air/trendsreport/2016/"On any scale close to China"
Lol that's nothing Marceaux
Clearly its nothing close to China. But it is getting worse and this could happen in a variety of cities across the country if we do not switch to alternative energy sources and cleaner/healthier standards across the board.
Do you think its ok to continue bad trends until a problem arises? Why not be proactive and prevent it before it happens?
Let's break this downFalse - https://gispub.epa.gov/air/trendsreport/2016/"On any scale close to China"
Lol that's nothing Marceaux
Clearly its nothing close to China. But it is getting worse and this could happen in a variety of cities across the country if we do not switch to alternative energy sources and cleaner/healthier standards across the board.
Do you think its ok to continue bad trends until a problem arises? Why not be proactive and prevent it before it happens?
So you think the US is perfect and clean? Do you not think we can do better? Do you not believe change as a whole is necessary for the countries of the world to advance? I guess you prefer the barbaric world we have atm and are content with maintaining the idiocy that goes on across the globe.
I just fail to see your point of view completely, you constantly defend actions that will have harmful repercussions for every living creature on this planet. Are financial gains for the US that important to you as an individual human being?
I am genuinely not trying to argue with or trigger you i just do not see where you stand really.
Let's break this downFalse - https://gispub.epa.gov/air/trendsreport/2016/"On any scale close to China"
Lol that's nothing Marceaux
Clearly its nothing close to China. But it is getting worse and this could happen in a variety of cities across the country if we do not switch to alternative energy sources and cleaner/healthier standards across the board.
Do you think its ok to continue bad trends until a problem arises? Why not be proactive and prevent it before it happens?
So you think the US is perfect and clean? Do you not think we can do better? Do you not believe change as a whole is necessary for the countries of the world to advance? I guess you prefer the barbaric world we have atm and are content with maintaining the idiocy that goes on across the globe.
I just fail to see your point of view completely, you constantly defend actions that will have harmful repercussions for every living creature on this planet. Are financial gains for the US that important to you as an individual human being?
I am genuinely not trying to argue with or trigger you i just do not see where you stand really.No country is perfect or clean. In fact, the poorer the country gets, the less clean it is, so I think we can do better through technological advancement and innovation, and if perfection isn't possible, at least we can get close. Idk what you mean by saying barbaric - what's barbaric to you that relates to pollution? Dung fires and burning sticks for heat because you can't afford energy? Or nuclear fuel that provides clean power that fuels the economy that drives innovation? I prefer the latter, thanks. I don't really think "change" should harm the economy if the economy drives change.SpoilerSo you think the US is perfect and clean? Do you not think we can do better? Do you not believe change as a whole is necessary for the countries of the world to advance? I guess you prefer the barbaric world we have atm and are content with maintaining the idiocy that goes on across the globe.[close]What am I defending? Trump getting out of the Paris agreement when the US didn't even ratify Kyoto but yet managed to reduce emissions at record levels? Or advocating caution in abandoning the energy sector? You're being overly dramatic - who is being killed by taking the US out of the Paris agreement? That is not a logical argument or connection in any sense of the word.SpoilerI just fail to see your point of view completely, you constantly defend actions that will have harmful repercussions for every living creature on this planet. Are financial gains for the US that important to you as an individual human being?[close]Well, that's what an argument looks like, but who am I to know, all I do is source statistics anywaysSpoilerI am genuinely not trying to argue with or trigger you i just do not see where you stand really.[close]
Spoiler"Firstly overall i am not being specific to the Paris agreement or energy. Although i feel strongly we should have went along with it."[close]
Then what specifically are you talking about?Spoiler"I just see you deny things without putting your pov out there. So what is your suggestion then for environmental policies not only stateside but globally and the future of energy? Because it seems like you support every thing that comes out of Trump and his administration. And that is where i have a problem."[close]
It doesn't seem you like you've read my previous posts. I'd also like to know where I said that I support everything that comes out of Trump and his administration. Otherwise you're putting words into my mouth.Spoiler"My opinion is fact and no one or nothing has any argument against it. Because i heard this or i read that. Or Trump said this." You refuse to even consider the opposition or put thought behind it before you jump up to defend the things you think to be true. You seem unwilling to discuss and consider alternatives."[close]
All I have done is present facts. What are you refuting here? I don't understand - all I've done is show why you're wrong in saying the US has a damaged environment that's getting worse. What have I heard and what have I read? And where are you getting all this???? When did I quote Trump?????????????? What am I refusing to consider or discuss?????????????????????????
Spoiler"Firstly overall i am not being specific to the Paris agreement or energy. Although i feel strongly we should have went along with it."[close]
Then what specifically are you talking about?Spoiler"I just see you deny things without putting your pov out there. So what is your suggestion then for environmental policies not only stateside but globally and the future of energy? Because it seems like you support every thing that comes out of Trump and his administration. And that is where i have a problem."[close]
It doesn't seem you like you've read my previous posts. I'd also like to know where I said that I support everything that comes out of Trump and his administration. Otherwise you're putting words into my mouth.Spoiler"My opinion is fact and no one or nothing has any argument against it. Because i heard this or i read that. Or Trump said this." You refuse to even consider the opposition or put thought behind it before you jump up to defend the things you think to be true. You seem unwilling to discuss and consider alternatives."[close]
All I have done is present facts. What are you refuting here? I don't understand - all I've done is show why you're wrong in saying the US has a damaged environment that's getting worse. What have I heard and what have I read? And where are you getting all this???? When did I quote Trump?????????????? What am I refusing to consider or discuss?????????????????????????
You are denying with anything possible that the US is damaging its environment, which it is and will now be worse due to Trump having no care at all for the environment and protecting it "Clean Coal etc". And you are basing your opinion directly off the ideas and plans presented by Trump and have continued to defend those actions without giving any merit or credibility to the other sides concerns. Which is where my problem arises.
"You are denying with anything possible that the US is damaging its environment"SpoilerSpoiler"Firstly overall i am not being specific to the Paris agreement or energy. Although i feel strongly we should have went along with it."[close]
Then what specifically are you talking about?Spoiler"I just see you deny things without putting your pov out there. So what is your suggestion then for environmental policies not only stateside but globally and the future of energy? Because it seems like you support every thing that comes out of Trump and his administration. And that is where i have a problem."[close]
It doesn't seem you like you've read my previous posts. I'd also like to know where I said that I support everything that comes out of Trump and his administration. Otherwise you're putting words into my mouth.Spoiler"My opinion is fact and no one or nothing has any argument against it. Because i heard this or i read that. Or Trump said this." You refuse to even consider the opposition or put thought behind it before you jump up to defend the things you think to be true. You seem unwilling to discuss and consider alternatives."[close]
All I have done is present facts. What are you refuting here? I don't understand - all I've done is show why you're wrong in saying the US has a damaged environment that's getting worse. What have I heard and what have I read? And where are you getting all this???? When did I quote Trump?????????????? What am I refusing to consider or discuss?????????????????????????
You are denying with anything possible that the US is damaging its environment, which it is and will now be worse due to Trump having no care at all for the environment and protecting it "Clean Coal etc". And you are basing your opinion directly off the ideas and plans presented by Trump and have continued to defend those actions without giving any merit or credibility to the other sides concerns. Which is where my problem arises.[close]
I'd like to know where I do that.
"which it is and will now be worse due to Trump having no care at all for the environment and protecting it "Clean Coal etc"."
You're ignoring the trends and statistics. I bet next year the emissions will continue to fall, as they have for the last 20 years.
"And you are basing your opinion directly off the ideas and plans presented by Trump"
I'd like to know where you see me do that
"have continued to defend those actions without giving any merit or credibility to the other sides concerns."
Why do I have to? You haven't presented any evidence to give me reason to
Congratulations Marceaux, you've rustled all 130 of my jimmies.
First of all, saying that the earth hasn't warmed in 14 years isn't me being an uninformed dingus - it's a paraphrase of the IPCC's 5th assesment report's findings on warming, which were confirmed by basically everyone in saying that the earth's average temperature has not gone up since late 1990's - here's a good article from The Economist explaining the hiatus: http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21598610-slowdown-rising-temperatures-over-past-15-years-goes-being
Now, you talk about consensus. It's always thrown around that there's a huge consensus among the science community that global warming is anthropogenic and humans, mostly in the form of C02 emissions, are the cause. As Politifact says, it's a lot broader than that:From the limited means we have to survey world temperature, we can say with relative confidence two things: that A) the earth is warming and B) human activity does cause warming. Climate skeptics do not disagree with this statement - why challenge basic data?Spoiler(https://i.gyazo.com/5debac155892facf0c1c107c439747ef.png)[close]good forbes articlehttps://www.forbes.com/sites/alexepstein/2015/01/06/97-of-climate-scientists-agree-is-100-wrong/#7fa552423f9f[close]politifact articlehttp://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2016/apr/04/don-beyer/don-beyer-says-97-percent-scientists-believe-human/[close]
What climate skeptics challenge is the effect this will have on society, how accurately we can model climate changes, and whether treaties like Paris and Kyoto will be effective for the environment and for the economy. A perfect example of this is the Green Energy Act in Ontario, which crippled our energy infrastructure, drove away industry, made Ontarians at times pay triple the cost they used to pay to give subsidies to energy providers that only provide 2 percent of their total power, and put the province in immeasurable debt. Climate skeptics think we shouldn't bankrupt overselves on the altar of questionable climate models. Here's a good article that you should read on this topic:if you say national review is a poor source without reading the article i'm banning youhttp://www.nationalreview.com/article/447215/climate-change-activists-science-deniers-environmentalism-public-policy[close]
But I'm just a stupid science denier.
More London attacks. A shame some Europeans (not all) still fail to address radical Islam as a real and actual threat. Oh and I guess our travel alert was justified after all (since I last posted it lol)
More London attacks. A shame some Europeans (not all) still fail to address radical Islam as a real and actual threat. Oh and I guess our travel alert was justified after all (since I last posted it lol)SpoilerRly makes you think (https://i.redditmedia.com/ABX2RSOfGDrl5XcdS5T-a9yGpJAputVI5kqr8o5jWvQ.jpg?w=490&s=046024523768d926fb8addef2f5306fa)[close]
More London attacks. A shame some Europeans (not all) still fail to address radical Islam as a real and actual threat. Oh and I guess our travel alert was justified after all (since I last posted it lol)Is this really the time for an "I told you so"? No wonder no one likes you.
More London attacks. A shame some Europeans (not all) still fail to address radical Islam as a real and actual threat. Oh and I guess our travel alert was justified after all (since I last posted it lol)
Is this really the time for an "I told you so"? No wonder no one likes you.
Well it is Ramadan... so it's been at an increase due to "celebrations".
people actually read the Atlantic?More London attacks. A shame some Europeans (not all) still fail to address radical Islam as a real and actual threat. Oh and I guess our travel alert was justified after all (since I last posted it lol)
Radical Islam is a threat in the middle east they don't scare me here.
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/07/iraq-terrorism-isis-world/489974/
More London attacks. A shame some Europeans (not all) still fail to address radical Islam as a real and actual threat. Oh and I guess our travel alert was justified after all (since I last posted it lol)
Radical Islam is a threat in the middle east they don't scare me here.
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/07/iraq-terrorism-isis-world/489974/
More London attacks. A shame some Europeans (not all) still fail to address radical Islam as a real and actual threat. Oh and I guess our travel alert was justified after all (since I last posted it lol)
Radical Islam is a threat in the middle east they don't scare me here.
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/07/iraq-terrorism-isis-world/489974/
Not a threat in europe cause they havent managed to kill as many children yet so we should ignore it and wait until one plot succeeds in killing thousands. Bold strategy cotton lets see if it pays off.
More London attacks. A shame some Europeans (not all) still fail to address radical Islam as a real and actual threat. Oh and I guess our travel alert was justified after all (since I last posted it lol)
Radical Islam is a threat in the middle east they don't scare me here.
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/07/iraq-terrorism-isis-world/489974/
Not a threat in europe cause they havent managed to kill as many children yet so we should ignore it and wait until one plot succeeds in killing thousands. Bold strategy cotton lets see if it pays off.
More like I don't think they're a threat because they can't achieve anything but killing some people (which in itself horrible of course) since they'll never be able to create a caliphate or topple a regieme here.
More London attacks. A shame some Europeans (not all) still fail to address radical Islam as a real and actual threat. Oh and I guess our travel alert was justified after all (since I last posted it lol)
Radical Islam is a threat in the middle east they don't scare me here.
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/07/iraq-terrorism-isis-world/489974/
Not a threat in europe cause they havent managed to kill as many children yet so we should ignore it and wait until one plot succeeds in killing thousands. Bold strategy cotton lets see if it pays off.
More like I don't think they're a threat because they can't achieve anything but killing some people (which in itself is horrible of course) since they'll never be able to create a caliphate or topple a regime here.