Napoleonic Wars World Cup 2018

[Gi]

He's actually Japanese

[Toffee]

The problem is, who determines who plays in the lower tournament. And how do they determine it? Like, scotland isn't bad and could beat some lower teams really easily. But is not a contender for the finals. So are they part of the upper tournament or the lower tournament?

The group stage would determine it. The advancing teams would go to the real bracket and fight for NWWC title, whilst the knocked out teams from groups will have their own bracket ending in a 'lower champion'.

The issue with that is that you’d then have a team that effectively got knocked out being crowned a champion of sorts and, for example, the runner up of the main tourney getting nothing.

[Fwuffy]

The problem is, who determines who plays in the lower tournament. And how do they determine it? Like, scotland isn't bad and could beat some lower teams really easily. But is not a contender for the finals. So are they part of the upper tournament or the lower tournament?

The group stage would determine it. The advancing teams would go to the real bracket and fight for NWWC title, whilst the knocked out teams from groups will have their own bracket ending in a 'lower champion'.

The issue with that is that you’d then have a team that effectively got knocked out being crowned a champion of sorts and, for example, the runner up of the main tourney getting nothing.

I obviously wouldn't propose them as being able to obtain anything from the prize pool, or even in fact be eligible for some sort of signature at all. - very clearly recognise it as the winner of the loser's bracket / knock-outs. The real runner-up would be referred to as 2nd place / runner-ups and obviously get wonderful signatures and prizes.

[Toffee]

But they’d be the winners of nothing. Not winners at all

[Knightmare]

Wait does my opinion matter

[Rikkert]

Wait does my opinion matter

yeSSS you are the kapitan of a team now!

[Kore]

Not cool. Normal loser brackets (the 2 life one as Rebel mentioned) is better imo and has at least some meaning.

Swiss-system is also a good idea.

[Knightmare]

The problem is, who determines who plays in the lower tournament. And how do they determine it? Like, scotland isn't bad and could beat some lower teams really easily. But is not a contender for the finals. So are they part of the upper tournament or the lower tournament?

The group stage would determine it. The advancing teams would go to the real bracket and fight for NWWC title, whilst the knocked out teams from groups will have their own bracket ending in a 'lower champion'.

The issue with that is that you’d then have a team that effectively got knocked out being crowned a champion of sorts and, for example, the runner up of the main tourney getting nothing.

I obviously wouldn't propose them as being able to obtain anything from the prize pool, or even in fact be eligible for some sort of signature at all. - very clearly recognise it as the winner of the loser's bracket / knock-outs. The real runner-up would be referred to as 2nd place / runner-ups and obviously get wonderful signatures and prizes.

Shit I promised my boys csgo skins if we won something.

[Fwuffy]

But they’d be the winners of nothing. Not winners at all

They're not supposed to have any meaningful win, they got knocked and by the old rules that'd be the end of it. This would give the opportunity for weak teams that normally get knocked out to compete in a playoff bracket with teams of a similar level in a competitive setting. This obviously entirely depends upon if those nations would be up for it, but I see it as a way to play more in a fair environment.

[Herishey]

All these systems will drag NWWC out from potentially a 2 month tournament to anything between a 3-5 month tournament though, unless we do more than one match a week which some teams don't have time to do.

[Carolus.]

All these systems will drag NWWC out from potentially a 2 month tournament to anything between a 3-5 month tournament though, unless we do more than one match a week which some teams don't have time to do.

With a swiss system or two large groups it would indeed take much longer.

[Kore]

All these systems will drag NWWC out from potentially a 2 month tournament to anything between a 3-5 month tournament though, unless we do more than one match a week which some teams don't have time to do.

Swiss-system is a 5-6 week tournament + play offs = 7-8 weeks?

You lied.

[KOBZIK]

All these systems will drag NWWC out from potentially a 2 month tournament to anything between a 3-5 month tournament though, unless we do more than one match a week which some teams don't have time to do.

With a swiss system or two large groups it would indeed take much longer.

swiss system is the same amount of time + 1 week. It cant be much longer. The loser barkets instead will take a lot of time

All these systems will drag NWWC out from potentially a 2 month tournament to anything between a 3-5 month tournament though, unless we do more than one match a week which some teams don't have time to do.

Swiss-system is a 5-6 week tournament + play offs = 7-8 weeks?

You lied.

In swiss system the weaker team has more opportunities to play vs teams on same lvles and not to get raped by higher tier teams in the barkest for 3 weeks

[Kore]

Not even the loser brackets adds on "many more weeks" and makes the tourney longer lol. Just make a mandatory schedule and we are all good, team can't make it? Well, too bad. .)

[KOBZIK]

Not even the loser brackets adds on "many more weeks" and makes the tourney longer lol. Just make a mandatory schedule and we are all good, team can't make it? Well, too bad. .)

Loser barkets just make 2x wasted time for refs
thats why in my opinion swiss is better