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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2017, 01:27:26 pm »
I really hope Merkel will be elected another time, there is no good alternative.
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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2017, 06:13:08 pm »
It is the only alternative.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2017, 06:19:12 pm »
It is the only alternative.
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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2017, 12:32:20 am »
I think Pim Fortuyn was the best leader the Netherlands never had-great shame he was assassinated he was better than Wilders. If I were Dutch I'd vote for Baudet.

Baudet? What? Why?

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2017, 09:22:57 am »
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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2017, 12:35:18 pm »
I think Pim Fortuyn was the best leader the Netherlands never had-great shame he was assassinated he was better than Wilders. If I were Dutch I'd vote for Baudet.

Baudet? What? Why?

Because he's a traditional conservative rather than a radical populist. He strikes me as very able and he also has an intellectual foundation; he's not simple-minded like Trump just spewing out random slogans. I also read his book 'The Significance of Borders' (mainly because it was recommended by Roger Scruton) and I agreed with most of it.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2017, 07:37:44 pm »
I actually had to google baudet, lel.
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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2017, 09:40:36 pm »
I think Pim Fortuyn was the best leader the Netherlands never had-great shame he was assassinated he was better than Wilders. If I were Dutch I'd vote for Baudet.

Baudet? What? Why?
Everyone that's anti EU is the best.

Btw (if anyone cares) I might run as a muncipial candidate for the liberals in the next Swedish election.
Mainly because my muncipality have been fucked by Socialdemocrats for ages, highest tax rates in all of Sweden yay.
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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2017, 10:51:48 pm »
The wave of right-wing populism in the world as of late is absolutely disgusting.
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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #39 on: February 01, 2017, 11:43:47 pm »
I think Pim Fortuyn was the best leader the Netherlands never had-great shame he was assassinated he was better than Wilders. If I were Dutch I'd vote for Baudet.

Baudet? What? Why?
Everyone that's anti EU is the best.

Btw (if anyone cares) I might run as a muncipial candidate for the liberals in the next Swedish election.
Mainly because my muncipality have been fucked by Socialdemocrats for ages, highest tax rates in all of Sweden yay.
gross...liberals...

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2017, 11:56:24 am »
I find it hard to understand that someone from Sweden thinks leaving the EU is a good idea.
Probably one of the very few old-timers here who hasn't been a regimental leader.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2017, 12:03:58 pm »
Not sure there is still a lot of people eligible to vote here  :D

For France, briefly, it will be interesting. Le Pen (despite multiple judicial affairs) will pass the first round, but i'm not that worried, it will be like in 2002 with her father. What is interesting is there is an explosion of the tradtionnal parties : Socialists are weakeaned and heavily divided, Right is showing unity but it's just for the show and the "tchatcher-like" Fillon candidacy is very fragile. As far I see, there is a strong chance that Macron, liberal independant will pass.
Ye Le Pen will pass the first round of course  ::) not the second.
The socialist are really divided i dont think they are going to win.
The right with fillion like you said is very fragile with his problem of justice etc...
Macron can pass yes, maybe i'm worried about his programm about the enterprise and co  :-\
   
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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #42 on: February 02, 2017, 12:52:45 pm »
Maybe if you started using rational thought in response to knee jerk emotional reaction you'd have more success bringing people to your cause, lol.
The rise of right wing populism is due to the rise of the social democratic left, and it's perceived power in society.
In my eyes, the rise of right wing populism is based on xenophobia, bigotry and racism. My response is not really a knee jerk reaction, its literally trump in the US, UKIP and others with Brexit and now other european nations. The central theme seems to be to keep out foreigners...

You can say that it's a response to the left and in some ways that may be true but the more likely case is that some folks became scared of people who look different.

I wonder why Merkel hates Germany so much
Maybe because Germany hates Germany.
It almost seems too easy for leftists to blame racism and bigotry to detract from their own failings.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #43 on: February 02, 2017, 01:26:00 pm »
no borders no problems  ;D

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #44 on: February 02, 2017, 02:02:06 pm »
Maybe if you started using rational thought in response to knee jerk emotional reaction you'd have more success bringing people to your cause, lol.
The rise of right wing populism is due to the rise of the social democratic left, and it's perceived power in society.
In my eyes, the rise of right wing populism is based on xenophobia, bigotry and racism. My response is not really a knee jerk reaction, its literally trump in the US, UKIP and others with Brexit and now other european nations. The central theme seems to be to keep out foreigners...

You can say that it's a response to the left and in some ways that may be true but the more likely case is that some folks became scared of people who look different.

I wonder why Merkel hates Germany so much
Maybe because Germany hates Germany.
It almost seems too easy for leftists to blame racism and bigotry to detract from their own failings.
Whose failings exactly? Mine? That of the neo-liberal establishment before trump? SJWs? I'm not a neo-liberal and i don't really identify much with the cause of identity politics (ie: SJWs).