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Title: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on December 27, 2020, 09:46:01 pm
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Welcome to the second edition of The Fighting Pit. After a bloody tournament where squads of three faced each other to claim glory and honours, the owners of the Pit have decided to re-open the doors of the arena. This time, we have made the splendid acquisition of hundred horses which we fully intend to put to use for the pleasure of our spectators. This edition will therefore be a cavalry-themed event but everyone is welcome to join, regardless of which community you come from.

The tournament will also take an essential part in helping seed the upcoming Fantasy League hosted by Skittles. For that reason, a special rule (which you can find down below in the appropriate section) will aim at limiting teams from a single regiment to partake together. We feel like these tournaments are good occasions to play with people you normally don't get the chance to due to belonging to different regiments, which is the aim of the Fantasy League and this, of this tournament.


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(https://img.icons8.com/metro/420/overtime.png) Event Day: Friday 15th of January | 20:00 GMT | (https://cdn.iconscout.com/icon/premium/png-256-thumb/deadline-6-243875.png) Sign-up Deadline: Thursday 14th of January | 23:30 GMT | (https://cdn.iconscout.com/icon/premium/png-256-thumb/deadline-6-243875.png) Roster Deadline: Friday 15tht of January | 17:00 GMT

(https://cdn4.iconfinder.com/data/icons/hiba-vol-3/512/description-512.png) Format: The tournament matches will be played out in an 5v5 format, with a group stage followed by a knockout stage. The limit of participants is fixed to 12 teams for now.

(https://imgur.com/YplUmke.png) Main Hosts: Tardet & Skittles | (https://imgur.com/xfW5M8d.png) Consultant: -



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Roster Rules
- The roster limit is fixed to 7 players, with 5 players from the main line-up and 2 substitutes.
- You don't need to specify who is part of the main line-up and who is a substitute while applying for the tournament as every player can be switched in-between rounds and matches, independently.
- You roster can only consist of players part of the same regiment, up to 50% at max. Meaning if your team consists in 7 players, only three can be in the same regiment, no more.
- Players have to be signed up with their community names. Roleplay names are tolerated so long as anyone can clearly identify the player(s) behind them.
- A player can only be featured on one single roster.
- Captains are required to sign-up all their players and themselves with a unique GUID. Teams which do not provide a roster with a unique GUID for each of their members won't be accepted for this tournament. Such GUID can be found on the Cavalry_Groupfighting server.
- Captains can add players up to three hours before the start of the tournament. After that, the roster will be locked and no more changes will be accepted.
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Match Rules
- Group stage matches and Quarter Finals of the knockout stage will be FT5. Semi-finals and bronze match will be FT5. Grand-final will be FT7.
- Every player has to play with the name they have been signed-up as. Variations can be allowed, as long as we can still identify who you are.
- Every player has to wear the tag of their team.
- Players which are part of the same team may not use identical in-game faces.
- You may only spawn in once your team's name is called.
- You may only enter the arena if you are playing.
- Substitutes can spawn in but will be expected to obey by the rules and not disturb the on-going matches.
- Captains are expected to type 'R' or 'Ready' in the chat before every round so that the referee can make the round go 'live'.
- Hussar is the only class allowed.
- The sword is the only weapon allowed.
- Melee speed will be on medium.
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Behaviour Rules
- Captains are to ensure their players obey by the rules.
- Players are expected to behave with certain standards and act in a respectful manner.
- No intentional teamkilling outside of the arenas.
- If you are a substitute, don't interrupt the on-going matches by jumping on the fences, running around (with flags or not), punching each other's, etc.
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Team Application
Steam (Captain): Link PlaceHolder
Team Name: Name PlaceHolder
Team Tag: Tag PlaceHolder
Players: Player 1 - GUID | Player 2 - GUID | Player 3 - GUID | Player 4 - GUID
Did you read and accept the rules? Yes/No
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Referee Application
Steam:
Nickname:
Why would you like to become a referee:
Prior experience (If any):
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Free Agent Application
Steam:
Nickname:
GUID:
Nationality:
Past teams (If any):
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Team 1
Team Name: wookies^wb
Team Tag: wookies~
Team Captain(s): Lindblom (https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198038262904/)
Roster:

(https://i.imgur.com/I85uBSw.png) Lindblom356756
(https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) SharkieTBA
(https://i.imgur.com/oKmSTZw.png) ThyrellTBA
(https://i.imgur.com/oKmSTZw.png) NazTBA
(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) TulkasTBA
(https://i.imgur.com/hScmPmE.png) FreyrDS837710
(https://i.imgur.com/hScmPmE.png) SirLegionTBA
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Team 2
Team Name: Cereal Killers
Team Tag: CR_
Team Captain(s): Dokletian (https://steamcommunity.com/id/dokiiiiiiiii/)
Roster:

(https://i.imgur.com/0aYfwo0.png) Dokletian781931
(https://i.imgur.com/0aYfwo0.png) DE14HANNES1217624
(https://i.imgur.com/oKmSTZw.png) Ciiges781925
(https://i.imgur.com/0aYfwo0.png) Carlos292892
(https://i.imgur.com/KqCeH5p.png) Stannis837568
(https://i.imgur.com/hXCLCjo.png) Andros1364268
(https://i.imgur.com/eHLjyhv.png) Aless811638
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Team 3
Team Name: Hot Wheels Equitation
Team Tag: HWE_
Team Captain(s): Treiz (https://steamcommunity.com/id/Treizz/)
Roster:

(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) Treiz484509
(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) DeLaBedoyère1229933
(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) Soartex782105
(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) Remao782240
(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) Maxence388607
(https://i.imgur.com/0aYfwo0.png) Harbinger1346711
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Team 4
Team Name: Purple Cobras
Team Tag: PC_
Team Captain(s): Jellyking (https://steamcommunity.com/id/JellyKing21/)
Roster:

(https://i.imgur.com/0aYfwo0.png) Jellyking1364265
(https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) Skittes273121
(https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) Giorno372274
(https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) Txm1347943
(https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) Shadey1135334
(https://i.ibb.co/4N0t6nJ/swiss.png) Law1194087
(https://i.imgur.com/0aYfwo0.png) Octanidas1626170
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Team 5
Team Name: Bad Vibe Hussars
Team Tag: BVH70_
Team Captain(s): Quinn (https://steamcommunity.com/id/quinn26)
Roster:

(https://i.imgur.com/ubuOWns.png) Quinn8036
(https://i.imgur.com/eAnucNe.png) Atsuque451768
(https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) Thorny474460
(https://i.imgur.com/PBp92Gz.png) Redbull991149
(https://i.imgur.com/7xbyuO3.png) Peaky1479107
(https://i.imgur.com/PBp92Gz.png) Jetfire1593435
(https://i.imgur.com/PBp92Gz.png) Kreativer1747114
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Team 6
Team Name: HOMOSEXUALS
Team Tag: HOMO*S_
Team Captain(s): TBA
Roster:

(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) LaSalle428325
(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) Leensab1476538
(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) Draco1534396
(https://i.imgur.com/0aYfwo0.png) Domi2101026
(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) Tengou499474
(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) Yuki60298
TBATBA
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Team 7
Team Name: Monkeys without sticks
Team Tag: MONKEYS_
Team Captain(s): Jesu (https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198387539734)
Roster:

(https://i.imgur.com/eHLjyhv.png) Jesu1663937
(https://i.imgur.com/eHLjyhv.png) Lorucas1379001
(https://i.imgur.com/eHLjyhv.png) Termito1346711
(https://i.imgur.com/eHLjyhv.png) Darklight509154
(https://i.imgur.com/eHLjyhv.png) Dume1631822
(https://i.imgur.com/eHLjyhv.png) Aitor1156041
(https://i.imgur.com/eHLjyhv.png) Scarta1416808
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Team 8
Team Name: Not Only Polish
Team Tag: NOP_
Team Captain(s): LaPierre (https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198015290096)
Roster:

(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) LaPierre1224536
(https://i.imgur.com/ofwQxPm.png) Atlatan1645144
(https://i.imgur.com/ofwQxPm.png) Killforskill1653033
(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) Ducopie1738546
Quack1547904
(https://i.imgur.com/ofwQxPm.png) Gabriel1472781
(https://i.imgur.com/0aYfwo0.png) Titus2107782
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Team 9
Team Name: Muffins
Team Tag: TBA
Team Captain(s): Apollo (https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198086107639/)
Roster:

(https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) Apollo817802
(https://i.imgur.com/hScmPmE.png) Parigoniculus801349
(https://community.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/public/images/countryflags/rs.gif) Grozni510578
(https://i.imgur.com/hScmPmE.png) Ilypa1704636
(https://i.imgur.com/eAnucNe.png) Ironfist1471725
(https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) Smylie1467774
TBATBA
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Team 10
Team Name: Average Joe's
Team Tag: AJ_
Team Captain(s): Erik (https://steamcommunity.com/id/ErikleRouge) & Cage (https://steamcommunity.com/id/8thcage/)
Roster:

(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) Erik63517
(https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) Cage844294
(https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) Tomas660390
(https://i.imgur.com/I85uBSw.png) Killa302989
(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) Enderby497587
(https://i.imgur.com/ofwQxPm.png) Rastignac1213265
TBATBA
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Team 11
Team Name: Jorvik Viking Centre
Team Tag: Jrvk_
Team Captain(s): USE4life (https://steamcommunity.com/id/USE4life/)
Roster:

(https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) USE4life62810
Bladeson63203
(https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) Nozza60535
(https://i.imgur.com/oKmSTZw.png) Shagon492854
Bluck1478606
Saiko344916
TBATBA
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Team 12
Team Name: Animals
Team Tag: AnimalName_
Team Captain(s): Coco_Ayala (https://steamcommunity.com/id/Coco_AyalaNW/)
Roster:

(https://i.imgur.com/0aYfwo0.png) Lightning463907
(https://i.imgur.com/0aYfwo0.png) Felix1152541
(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) Ouranos665180
(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) Bocom1100085
(https://i.imgur.com/cXl0tMw.png) Stefan1607471
(https://i.imgur.com/ofwQxPm.png) Michniki1221210
(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) Coco_Ayala1462072
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Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on December 27, 2020, 09:48:32 pm
Thanks to Lindblom for the beautiful new header.

The important info to remember if you can't be arsed reading all the rules before signing up is this one:

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- You roster can only consist of players part of the same regiment, up to 50% at max. Meaning if your team consists in 7 players, only three can be in the same regiment, no more.

We are still looking for a proper tournament map for cavalry with several arenas large enough for 5v5s. If you have the link/files for one, hit Skittles or myself on steam, we'll really appreciate it.

Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Ry@n on December 27, 2020, 10:04:19 pm
looks interesting and different! good luck, sure i'll get signed up soon.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on December 27, 2020, 10:09:08 pm
Worth adding for infantrymen willing to sign-up, if you don't have an active cavalry regiment, the roster rule doesn't apply to your team. It's only a limitation for the members of the cavalry community.

So let's say Rikkert wants to create a merry band of cretins from the 15thYR and have them partake in that event, they can all partake under the same team, so long as all of them are not active in the same cavalry regiment at the same time.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tigere on December 27, 2020, 10:12:21 pm
This shit for cav?
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on December 27, 2020, 10:13:40 pm
This shit for cav?
R E A D

Spoiler
yes  >:(
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Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Goodest on December 27, 2020, 10:16:23 pm
Looks great, good luck, xoxo!
Thanks for hosting!  :-*
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Hawriil on December 27, 2020, 10:22:38 pm
Steam (Captain): Gabriel (https://steamcommunity.com/id/Hawriil/)
Team Name: Gentlemenn's
Team Tag:Gentle*S
Players:
Gabriel - GUID
KillForSkill - GUID
FeezY - GUID
Atlatan - GUID
Zorius - GUID
Giovanni - GUID
Did you read and accept the rules?: Yes

My god, 5v5, dreams come true
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tigere on December 27, 2020, 10:29:56 pm
This shit for cav?
R E A D

Spoiler
yes  >:(
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Reading tournament discriptions isn't my strength :(
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on December 27, 2020, 10:34:17 pm
This shit for cav?
R E A D

Spoiler
yes  >:(
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Reading tournament discriptions isn't my strength :(
I even highlighted the important info in the description Tigrou :(

but dw, it's not a skill in the community many possess!
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Termito on December 27, 2020, 10:38:05 pm
Steam (Captain): Gabriel (https://steamcommunity.com/id/Hawriil/)
Team Name: Gentlemenn's
Team Tag:Gentle*S
Players:
Gabriel - GUID
KillForSkill - GUID
FeezY - GUID
Atlatan - GUID
Zorius - GUID
Giovanni - GUID
Did you read and accept the rules?: Yes

My god, 5v5, dreams come true
Its not my business, but arent you all from the 10ph?
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: FeezY on December 27, 2020, 10:39:58 pm
What is 10ph lol

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arent you all from the 10ph?
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Hawriil on December 27, 2020, 10:40:22 pm
10ph =/= Gentle*S
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on December 27, 2020, 10:49:33 pm
@Hawriil

I don't know in which regiments your players are but just re-quoting this in case you missed it:

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- You roster can only consist of players part of the same regiment, up to 50% at max. Meaning if your team consists in 7 players, only three can be in the same regiment, no more.

This is no typical 5v5 cavalry gf tournament, this aims at mixing-up teams and prepare players for the upcoming Fantasy League where every one will be put into a common pool and drafted by captains (so you won't get to play with your regimental mates necessarily). Sorry about the inconvenience if you guys all wanted to play together, I will try to host a more regular tournament later in the year.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: corentin-murat on December 27, 2020, 10:55:42 pm
Team Name: TBA
Team Tag: TBA
Team Captain(s): https://steamcommunity.com/id/Coco_AyalaNW/
Roster:
TBA   TBA
TBA   TBA
TBA   TBA
TBA   TBA
TBA   TBA
TBA   TBA
TBA   TBA
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Dusbled on December 27, 2020, 11:04:33 pm
Free agent application

Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/id/Saphyro/ (https://steamcommunity.com/id/Saphyro/)
Nickname: Saphyro
GUID: 1759157
Nationality: German (still capable of understanding basic english)
Past teams (If any): Kamikaze
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Kraz on December 27, 2020, 11:27:10 pm
good luck !
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Lightning. on December 27, 2020, 11:53:42 pm
Good luck with this. Time to revive Animals I suppose
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Hawriil on December 28, 2020, 06:51:36 am
@Hawriil

I don't know in which regiments your players are but just re-quoting this in case you missed it:

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- You roster can only consist of players part of the same regiment, up to 50% at max. Meaning if your team consists in 7 players, only three can be in the same regiment, no more.

This is no typical 5v5 cavalry gf tournament, this aims at mixing-up teams and prepare players for the upcoming Fantasy League where every one will be put into a common pool and drafted by captains (so you won't get to play with your regimental mates necessarily). Sorry about the inconvenience if you guys all wanted to play together, I will try to host a more regular tournament later in the year.

Ah, ye, I see. It's strange, doing 5v5 like this. Many people (i think) can't play because has limits. If I play in regiment, and see event like it - I will form team with my friends, with regiment part. But currently rules succesfuly stoped me.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: lindblom on December 28, 2020, 09:59:13 am
Steam (Captain): Lindblom (https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198038262904/) (Manager)
Team Name: Fighting Pit Squad
Team Tag: FPS~Name
Players:
Lindblom - 356756
Sharkie - GUID
Thyrell - GUID
Naz - 951594
Tulkas - GUID
FreyrDS - 837710
SirLegion - 1130936
Did you read and accept the rules? Yes.

And yes, Sharkie is currently regimentless which makes us (3) 1er members
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Skittles on December 28, 2020, 01:51:38 pm
@Hawriil

I don't know in which regiments your players are but just re-quoting this in case you missed it:

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- You roster can only consist of players part of the same regiment, up to 50% at max. Meaning if your team consists in 7 players, only three can be in the same regiment, no more.

This is no typical 5v5 cavalry gf tournament, this aims at mixing-up teams and prepare players for the upcoming Fantasy League where every one will be put into a common pool and drafted by captains (so you won't get to play with your regimental mates necessarily). Sorry about the inconvenience if you guys all wanted to play together, I will try to host a more regular tournament later in the year.

Ah, ye, I see. It's strange, doing 5v5 like this. Many people (i think) can't play because has limits. If I play in regiment, and see event like it - I will form team with my friends, with regiment part. But currently rules succesfuly stoped me.

The rules are set like this to try influence the community to come together more!  Try mingling with other regiments and branching out a little.  You can still bring yourself and two others from your regiment to match with another group.  If you're stuck, there's always the option of posting on here that you're looking for a team! 

I hope you partake and enjoy yourself, good luck!
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Dokletian on December 28, 2020, 02:37:40 pm
Good luck Tardet & Mr. Facebook!

Steam (Captain): 4e | Dokletian (https://steamcommunity.com/id/dokiiiiiiiii/)
Team Name: Cereal Killers
Team Tag: CK_Name
Players: Dokletian - 781931 | DE14HANNES - 1217624 | Ciiges - 781925 | Carlos - 292892 | Stannis - 837568 | Andros - 1364268 | Aless - 811638
Did you read and accept the rules? Yes!
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Cameron. on December 28, 2020, 02:47:43 pm
Sad that it’s my last Friday before I head off so can’t come

Best of luck it looks to be a good tourney
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Treiz35 on December 28, 2020, 03:05:36 pm
Steam (Captain): Treiz (https://steamcommunity.com/id/Treizz/)
Team Name: Hot Wheels Equitation
Team Tag: HWE_Name
Players: Treiz - 484509 | DeLaBedoyère - 1229933 | Soartex - 782105 | Remao - 782240 | MaxenceIV - 388607 | Harbinger - 1346711 |
Did you read and accept the rules? Yes
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Naz on December 28, 2020, 04:57:30 pm
Steam (Captain): Treiz (https://steamcommunity.com/id/Treizz/)
Team Name: TBA
Team Tag: TBA
Players: Treiz - 484509 | DeLaBedoyère - 1229933 | Soartex - 782105 | Remao - 782240 | MaxenceIV - 388607 | Harbinger - 1346711 |
Did you read and accept the rules? Yes

Good luck Tardet & Mr. Facebook!

Steam (Captain): 4e | Dokletian (https://steamcommunity.com/id/dokiiiiiiiii/)
Team Name: tba.
Team Tag: tba.
Players: Dokletian - 781931 | DE14HANNES - 1217624 | Ciiges - 781925 | Carlos - 292892 | Stannis - 837568 | Andros - 1364268 | Aless - 811638
Did you read and accept the rules? Yes!

Spare some Tier 1's for the rest of us
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/76563233/please.jpg)
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on December 28, 2020, 05:00:29 pm
Fear not Naz, as I am still available. Who needs T1s when you can just use the head-admin to rig your matches. 8)

Keep the sign-ups coming though, I will update the thread tonight or tomorrow with the first bach of teams.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Fwuffy on December 28, 2020, 05:26:23 pm
is it 3 bayonets or 2 + 1 sword?
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on December 28, 2020, 05:46:12 pm
is it 3 bayonets or 2 + 1 sword?
You've been a good co-host Fwuffy. I will NOT miss you.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: David_Schrein on December 28, 2020, 06:19:00 pm
is it 3 bayonets or 2 + 1 sword?
ProudBoys will signup dw, will message you the details later
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: charle_Lebrun on December 28, 2020, 06:22:39 pm
Steam (Captain): https://steamcommunity.com/id/1832685WP01/
Team Name: TBA
Team Tag: TBA
Players:




Did you read and accept the rules? Yes ofc
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: DragonKing on December 28, 2020, 07:07:08 pm
- Hussar is the only class allowed.

so I'm going to ask the drama question: "why?"

It's just surprising then that the cuirassiers teams won the last editions in 5vs5 format to put them aside like this. So very experienced players in this class will not be able to play it. Very unfortunate

If the idea is simply to play with just one class, then I suppose the community will shrink even further for what's left of it

Good luck for the rest of your tournament. I sincerely wish you a very good tournament while I'm going back to BannerLord
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: lindblom on December 28, 2020, 07:31:00 pm
- Hussar is the only class allowed.

so I'm going to ask the drama question: "why?"

It's just surprising then that the cuirassiers teams won the last editions in 5vs5 format to put them aside like this. So very experienced players in this class will not be able to play it. Very unfortunate

If the idea is simply to play with just one class, then I suppose the community will shrink even further for what's left of it

Good luck for the rest of your tournament. I sincerely wish you a very good tournament while I'm going back to BannerLord

I think that is because most likely every regiment in the fantasy league will be hussars. It's simply the most popular class. And sticking to one class makes the tournament more fair as everyone have the same conditions.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Lightning. on December 28, 2020, 07:36:00 pm
Think about the time aswell. Its hosted on one night.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: DE14HANNES on December 28, 2020, 07:39:30 pm
- Hussar is the only class allowed.

so I'm going to ask the drama question: "why?"

It's just surprising then that the cuirassiers teams won the last editions in 5vs5 format to put them aside like this. So very experienced players in this class will not be able to play it. Very unfortunate

If the idea is simply to play with just one class, then I suppose the community will shrink even further for what's left of it

Good luck for the rest of your tournament. I sincerely wish you a very good tournament while I'm going back to BannerLord


I mean all guys are having now the same cards to play with, not bad imo
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: FreyrDS on December 28, 2020, 07:40:08 pm
- Hussar is the only class allowed.

so I'm going to ask the drama question: "why?"

It's just surprising then that the cuirassiers teams won the last editions in 5vs5 format to put them aside like this. So very experienced players in this class will not be able to play it. Very unfortunate

If the idea is simply to play with just one class, then I suppose the community will shrink even further for what's left of it

Good luck for the rest of your tournament. I sincerely wish you a very good tournament while I'm going back to BannerLord
Because if they were allowed to play it'd take more than 4 years and we don't have that kind of time. Also lowers the amount of toxicity a very small bit since heavies are prime targets for (fully deserved) abuse and insults.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on December 28, 2020, 07:57:48 pm
As far as I discussed it with Skittles (can't be 100% certain since nothing has been announced yet) the Fantasy League will be Hussars only, as it's easier to rate players (give them a prize in that case) based on one class rather than on two.

As this tournament's main goal is to serve as a seeding base for the Fantasy League, it makes sense to use the rules which are likely to be put in place once the event arises, to guarantee fairness and equal conditions to every participant.

I'm not gonna hide it though, except if I am to host a big league like the CL, I probably won't allow more than one class in the competitions I organize. I would be genuinely interested in hosting a cuirassier only tournament in future though, assuming there is an obvious interest for it. I just don't fix the two mix well together, and although I respect people thinking differently, at the end of the day the tournaments I host represent my competitive views, not those of the entire cavalry community.

I fully understand that it's no satisfactory answer from your perspective but I'd rather be fully transparent about my intentions. I was very clear about it not so long ago (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=44666.msg1981662#msg1981662). I don't mind having other people hosting tournaments including heavies though, neither do I mind partaking in them, I simply don't have any interest in being the one who hosts them as it's not the vision of competition I share.

In regards to this part of your post though:

Quote
If the idea is simply to play with just one class, then I suppose the community will shrink even further for what's left of it

I think we'll be fine and if you think I'm wrong, then you clearly have not paid enough attention to what most people experience when they face heavies (be it in 5v5, regimental leagues, etc..). As for every thing, time will tell. Good luck in your Bannelord endeavours, let us know when the game is no longer utter garbage, I'm sure a lot of us would be willing to enjoy it with you.

Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Skittles on December 28, 2020, 07:59:18 pm
- Hussar is the only class allowed.

so I'm going to ask the drama question: "why?"

It's just surprising then that the cuirassiers teams won the last editions in 5vs5 format to put them aside like this. So very experienced players in this class will not be able to play it. Very unfortunate

If the idea is simply to play with just one class, then I suppose the community will shrink even further for what's left of it

Good luck for the rest of your tournament. I sincerely wish you a very good tournament while I'm going back to BannerLord

It's not anything directly indicated against heavy players.  But it was simply put in place to create a level-playing field for everyone.  I feel it would create less drama overall.  I am sorry if you think this is aimed at anyone directly, it really isn't!

Just to add on to what Tardet has said, ""I would be genuinely interested in hosting a cuirassier only tournament in future though, assuming there is an obvious interest for it".  I also spoke with him not too long ago and we were saying we would be interested in doing something like this!
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: MarxeiL on December 28, 2020, 08:24:47 pm
Thought it’s inf one saw the date and was like “wtf Tardet is doing” but then realized I’m as stupid as Tigere

Good luck
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on December 28, 2020, 08:57:43 pm
Thought it’s inf one saw the date and was like “wtf Tardet is doing” but then realized I’m as stupid as Tigere

Good luck
Jokes aside, I can't blame you guys. The first edition was an infantry tournament, there is no indication in the title about it being for cavalry so some people are bound to draw fast conclusions.

Thanks though!
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tulkas on December 28, 2020, 09:15:10 pm
- Hussar is the only class allowed.

so I'm going to ask the drama question: "why?"

It's just surprising then that the cuirassiers teams won the last editions in 5vs5 format to put them aside like this. So very experienced players in this class will not be able to play it. Very unfortunate

If the idea is simply to play with just one class, then I suppose the community will shrink even further for what's left of it

Good luck for the rest of your tournament. I sincerely wish you a very good tournament while I'm going back to BannerLord

Retournes sur Bannerlord monstre.
 Btw; i'm a free agent

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Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: DragonKing on December 28, 2020, 09:20:43 pm
Spoiler
- Hussar is the only class allowed.

so I'm going to ask the drama question: "why?"

It's just surprising then that the cuirassiers teams won the last editions in 5vs5 format to put them aside like this. So very experienced players in this class will not be able to play it. Very unfortunate

If the idea is simply to play with just one class, then I suppose the community will shrink even further for what's left of it

Good luck for the rest of your tournament. I sincerely wish you a very good tournament while I'm going back to BannerLord
[close]

I think that is because most likely every regiment in the fantasy league will be hussars. It's simply the most popular class. And sticking to one class makes the tournament more fair as everyone have the same conditions.

 I understand you point of view Lindbom and It is true that there are no really competitive cuirassiers regiments left compared to the overwhelming majority of hussar regiments. Nevertheless, it seems to me that what differentiates the very good player from the good player is his ability to adapt to his opponents. I think that there are still undefeated teams of cuirassiers and that some players dream of being able to face them again and finally defeat them after a lot of effort. Instead of forgetting HeavyCav teams under the pretext that they don't play in the same class, I propose to confront them. They are few in number but still present

Think about the time aswell. Its hosted on one night.

ah indeed, it's true that the matches between hussars and cuirassiers are long and maybe a time limit could have limited this problem? and then the matches in 5vs5 are not as long as the big matches between two big regiments of more than twenty players. Let's be honest, I don't remember, as far as I can remember, a match that was long in 5vs5 format

Spoiler
- Hussar is the only class allowed.

so I'm going to ask the drama question: "why?"

It's just surprising then that the cuirassiers teams won the last editions in 5vs5 format to put them aside like this. So very experienced players in this class will not be able to play it. Very unfortunate

If the idea is simply to play with just one class, then I suppose the community will shrink even further for what's left of it

Good luck for the rest of your tournament. I sincerely wish you a very good tournament while I'm going back to BannerLord
[close]


I mean all guys are having now the same cards to play with, not bad imo


but that was the case before. Playing with its advantages to the point of abusing them to win.Different advantages, of course, but as in E-sport games like LOL for example, a hero/class can dominate at one moment and be dominated at another. It all depends on how you use your advantages and many other factors


Spoiler
- Hussar is the only class allowed.

so I'm going to ask the drama question: "why?"

It's just surprising then that the cuirassiers teams won the last editions in 5vs5 format to put them aside like this. So very experienced players in this class will not be able to play it. Very unfortunate

If the idea is simply to play with just one class, then I suppose the community will shrink even further for what's left of it

Good luck for the rest of your tournament. I sincerely wish you a very good tournament while I'm going back to BannerLord
[close]
Also lowers the amount of toxicity a very small bit since heavies are prime targets for (fully deserved) abuse and insults.

It is true that some members of the hussar community (a minority, not all) are extremely toxic towards the cuirassier community, even going so far as to create unnecessary drama against them. I would say (at face value) that 5% of these players are the source of more than 95% of the insults in this regard. Maybe, if we want to fight against toxicity, fight against this type of players rather than the class in question :)

As far as I discussed it with Skittles (can't be 100% certain since nothing has been announced yet) the Fantasy League will be Hussars only, as it's easier to rate players (give them a prize in that case) based on one class rather than on two.
As this tournament's main goal is to serve as a seeding base for the Fantasy League, it makes sense to use the rules which are likely to be put in place once the event arises, to guarantee fairness and equal conditions to every participant.

I'm not gonna hide it though, except if I am to host a big league like the CL, I probably won't allow more than one class in the competitions I organize. I would be genuinely interested in hosting a cuirassier only tournament in future though, assuming there is an obvious interest for it. I just don't fix the two mix well together, and although I respect people thinking differently, at the end of the day the tournaments I host represent my competitive views, not those of the entire cavalry community.

All right, I can understand the idea of wanting to rank the Hussar players among themselves, which I think is important. But isn't a very good hussar able to adapt? Can't he manage to change his game against another kind of adversity? Isn't that what differentiates a very good player from a good player? A good regiment from a very good regiment which can adapt his own tactic?

Moreover, about the league, why not allow in the future fantasy league the cuirassiers players to play their class as Thyrell had very cleverly organised for his tournament? The style of one cuirassier for five hussars on the field

As far as a cuirassier league is concerned, this is frankly impossible due to the fact that there are no more or not enough solid cuirassier regiments. I think you are already informed on this point but it is a hope that I tried to apply 3 years ago when there were big cuirassier regiments and it didn't work. Now if it's to allow hussar players to play cuirassier, I don't see any point in making a league of cuirassiers but this will not be taken seriously by the players

I fully understand that it's no satisfactory answer from your perspective but I'd rather be fully transparent about my intentions. I was very clear about it not so long ago (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=44666.msg1981662#msg1981662). I don't mind having other people hosting tournaments including heavies though, neither do I mind partaking in them, I simply don't have any interest in being the one who hosts them as it's not the vision of competition I share.

the fact that you acknowledge it honours you and I am grateful for this honesty. This is your tournament and it is legitimate for you to organise it as you see fit. I really would have liked to take part in it. It's a pity that with the absence of cuirassiers, you are finally taking away my weapon on which I have always played and that takes away all my initial interest that I had in the tournament



I think we'll be fine and if you think I'm wrong, then you clearly have not paid enough attention to what most people experience when they face heavies (be it in 5v5, regimental leagues, etc..). As for every thing, time will tell. Good luck in your Bannelord endeavours, let us know when the game is no longer utter garbage, I'm sure a lot of us would be willing to enjoy it with you.

I think you're wrong and we don't agree on this point. When I look at the other side of the community, I realise that we have always had a lot of diversity. That many people enjoy diversifying their style of play. Indeed, many have complained about cuirassiers. But again, they speak much more than those who have always and will continue to see cavalry matches not as tournaments just between hussars but also between hussars and cuirassiers. Indeed, there are probably more people who think that there should be only one class: hussars and this is a great regret for me.

For BannerLord, I propose that we look at the number of simultaneous connections on both games. 3,000 on Warband versus 15,000 on BannerLord. The revolution is here and time will prove me right: when Taleword closes the servers on Warband, you'll have to face the facts
Honestly, on this spade, I want to add that the game has really improved and the rider duels on this game are just so much better than on Warband. Honestly, this game is great:and it will continue to improve thanks to the active game community that is working with the developers to provide a better experience for players

Spoiler
- Hussar is the only class allowed.

so I'm going to ask the drama question: "why?"

It's just surprising then that the cuirassiers teams won the last editions in 5vs5 format to put them aside like this. So very experienced players in this class will not be able to play it. Very unfortunate

If the idea is simply to play with just one class, then I suppose the community will shrink even further for what's left of it

Good luck for the rest of your tournament. I sincerely wish you a very good tournament while I'm going back to BannerLord
[close]

It's not anything directly indicated against heavy players.  But it was simply put in place to create a level-playing field for everyone.  I feel it would create less drama overall.  I am sorry if you think this is aimed at anyone directly, it really isn't!

Just to add on to what Tardet has said, ""I would be genuinely interested in hosting a cuirassier only tournament in future though, assuming there is an obvious interest for it".  I also spoke with him not too long ago and we were saying we would be interested in doing something like this!

I totally understand the idea of making hussars cup but let's face it, making a heavy cup is completely impossible. This is the biggest tragedy: the cuirassiers regiments (14pk, 1erRC, DCL) all disbanded after winning all the tournaments in any format. We have always been a minority against a majority of hussars.It is true that there are no really competitive cuirassiers regiments left compared to the overwhelming majority of hussar regiments. It is also true that regiments of lancers and then cuirassiers were not much help.But like the lancers in the past, don't expect the cuirassiers to play a different class. I mean, this may have been the case for the SNC because it was a national issue, but I clearly doubt that cuirassiers will not play as hussars. once again, those who make dramas about cuirassiers are still few in number, but they are the authors of the great majority of the dramas and God knows they were numerous. By the way, there is still the 8pk and the regiments of hussars who will want to play cuirassiers, in short little interest. Not against, teams of cuirassiers are still existing and only ask to have the possibility to play to participate. Also for some players, don't hesitate to let me play cuirassier in the Draft Cup and I will be present on the front line on the battlefield
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: DragonKing on December 28, 2020, 09:30:18 pm

Retournes sur Bannerlord monstre.


rejoins moi vite, beauté
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Octanidas on December 28, 2020, 09:31:20 pm
Why does it have to be all on one evening? And how long is it expected to last (how many hours)?
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Skittles on December 28, 2020, 09:34:11 pm
Spoiler
Spoiler
- Hussar is the only class allowed.

so I'm going to ask the drama question: "why?"

It's just surprising then that the cuirassiers teams won the last editions in 5vs5 format to put them aside like this. So very experienced players in this class will not be able to play it. Very unfortunate

If the idea is simply to play with just one class, then I suppose the community will shrink even further for what's left of it

Good luck for the rest of your tournament. I sincerely wish you a very good tournament while I'm going back to BannerLord
[close]

I think that is because most likely every regiment in the fantasy league will be hussars. It's simply the most popular class. And sticking to one class makes the tournament more fair as everyone have the same conditions.

 I understand you point of view Lindbom and It is true that there are no really competitive cuirassiers regiments left compared to the overwhelming majority of hussar regiments. Nevertheless, it seems to me that what differentiates the very good player from the good player is his ability to adapt to his opponents. I think that there are still undefeated teams of cuirassiers and that some players dream of being able to face them again and finally defeat them after a lot of effort. Instead of forgetting HeavyCav teams under the pretext that they don't play in the same class, I propose to confront them. They are few in number but still present

Think about the time aswell. Its hosted on one night.

ah indeed, it's true that the matches between hussars and cuirassiers are long and maybe a time limit could have limited this problem? and then the matches in 5vs5 are not as long as the big matches between two big regiments of more than twenty players. Let's be honest, I don't remember, as far as I can remember, a match that was rather short in 5vs5 format

Spoiler
- Hussar is the only class allowed.

so I'm going to ask the drama question: "why?"

It's just surprising then that the cuirassiers teams won the last editions in 5vs5 format to put them aside like this. So very experienced players in this class will not be able to play it. Very unfortunate

If the idea is simply to play with just one class, then I suppose the community will shrink even further for what's left of it

Good luck for the rest of your tournament. I sincerely wish you a very good tournament while I'm going back to BannerLord
[close]


I mean all guys are having now the same cards to play with, not bad imo


but that was the case before. Playing with its advantages to the point of abusing them to win.Different advantages, of course, but as in E-sport games like LOL for example, a hero/class can dominate at one moment and be dominated at another. It all depends on how you use your advantages and many other factors


Spoiler
- Hussar is the only class allowed.

so I'm going to ask the drama question: "why?"

It's just surprising then that the cuirassiers teams won the last editions in 5vs5 format to put them aside like this. So very experienced players in this class will not be able to play it. Very unfortunate

If the idea is simply to play with just one class, then I suppose the community will shrink even further for what's left of it

Good luck for the rest of your tournament. I sincerely wish you a very good tournament while I'm going back to BannerLord
[close]
Also lowers the amount of toxicity a very small bit since heavies are prime targets for (fully deserved) abuse and insults.

It is true that some members of the hussar community (a minority, not all) are extremely toxic towards the cuirassier community, even going so far as to create unnecessary drama against them. I would say (at face value) that 5% of these players are the source of more than 95% of the insults in this regard. Maybe, if we want to fight against toxicity, fight against this type of players rather than the class in question :)

As far as I discussed it with Skittles (can't be 100% certain since nothing has been announced yet) the Fantasy League will be Hussars only, as it's easier to rate players (give them a prize in that case) based on one class rather than on two.
As this tournament's main goal is to serve as a seeding base for the Fantasy League, it makes sense to use the rules which are likely to be put in place once the event arises, to guarantee fairness and equal conditions to every participant.

I'm not gonna hide it though, except if I am to host a big league like the CL, I probably won't allow more than one class in the competitions I organize. I would be genuinely interested in hosting a cuirassier only tournament in future though, assuming there is an obvious interest for it. I just don't fix the two mix well together, and although I respect people thinking differently, at the end of the day the tournaments I host represent my competitive views, not those of the entire cavalry community.

All right, I can understand the idea of wanting to rank the Hussar players among themselves, which I think is important. But isn't a very good hussar able to adapt? Can't he manage to change his game against another kind of adversity? Isn't that what differentiates a very good player from a good player? A good regiment from a very good regiment which can adapt his own tactic?

Moreover, about the league, why not allow in the future fantasy league the cuirassiers players to play their class as Thyrell had very cleverly organised for his tournament? The style of one cuirassier for five hussars on the field

As far as a cuirassier league is concerned, this is frankly impossible due to the fact that there are no more or not enough solid cuirassier regiments. I think you are already informed on this point but it is a hope that I tried to apply 3 years ago when there were big cuirassier regiments and it didn't work. Now if it's to allow hussar players to play cuirassier, I don't see any point in making a league of cuirassiers but this will not be taken seriously by the players

I fully understand that it's no satisfactory answer from your perspective but I'd rather be fully transparent about my intentions. I was very clear about it not so long ago (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=44666.msg1981662#msg1981662). I don't mind having other people hosting tournaments including heavies though, neither do I mind partaking in them, I simply don't have any interest in being the one who hosts them as it's not the vision of competition I share.

the fact that you acknowledge it honours you and I am grateful for this honesty. This is your tournament and it is legitimate for you to organise it as you see fit. I really would have liked to take part in it. It's a pity that with the absence of cuirassiers, you are finally taking away my weapon on which I have always played and that takes away all my initial interest that I had in the tournament



I think we'll be fine and if you think I'm wrong, then you clearly have not paid enough attention to what most people experience when they face heavies (be it in 5v5, regimental leagues, etc..). As for every thing, time will tell. Good luck in your Bannelord endeavours, let us know when the game is no longer utter garbage, I'm sure a lot of us would be willing to enjoy it with you.

I think you're wrong and we don't agree on this point. When I look at the other side of the community, I realise that we have always had a lot of diversity. That many people enjoy diversifying their style of play. Indeed, many have complained about cuirassiers. But again, they speak much more than those who have always and will continue to see cavalry matches not as tournaments just between hussars but also between hussars and cuirassiers. Indeed, there are probably more people who think that there should be only one class: hussars and this is a great regret for me.

For BannerLord, I propose that we look at the number of simultaneous connections on both games. 3,000 on Warband versus 15,000 on BannerLord. The revolution is here and time will prove me right: when Taleword closes the servers on Warband, you'll have to face the facts
Honestly, on this spade, I want to add that the game has really improved and the rider duels on this game are just so much better than on Warband. Honestly, this game is great:and it will continue to improve thanks to the active game community that is working with the developers to provide a better experience for players

Spoiler
- Hussar is the only class allowed.

so I'm going to ask the drama question: "why?"

It's just surprising then that the cuirassiers teams won the last editions in 5vs5 format to put them aside like this. So very experienced players in this class will not be able to play it. Very unfortunate

If the idea is simply to play with just one class, then I suppose the community will shrink even further for what's left of it

Good luck for the rest of your tournament. I sincerely wish you a very good tournament while I'm going back to BannerLord
[close]

It's not anything directly indicated against heavy players.  But it was simply put in place to create a level-playing field for everyone.  I feel it would create less drama overall.  I am sorry if you think this is aimed at anyone directly, it really isn't!

Just to add on to what Tardet has said, ""I would be genuinely interested in hosting a cuirassier only tournament in future though, assuming there is an obvious interest for it".  I also spoke with him not too long ago and we were saying we would be interested in doing something like this!

I totally understand the idea of making hussars cup but let's face it, making a heavy cup is completely impossible. This is the biggest tragedy: the cuirassiers regiments (14pk, 1erRC, DCL) all disbanded after winning all the tournaments in any format. We have always been a minority against a majority of hussars.It is true that there are no really competitive cuirassiers regiments left compared to the overwhelming majority of hussar regiments. It is also true that regiments of lancers and then cuirassiers were not much help.But like the lancers in the past, don't expect the cuirassiers to play a different class. I mean, this may have been the case for the SNC because it was a national issue, but I clearly doubt that cuirassiers will not play as hussars. once again, those who make dramas about cuirassiers are still few in number, but they are the authors of the great majority of the dramas and God knows they were numerous. By the way, there is still the 8pk and the regiments of hussars who will want to play cuirassiers, in short little interest. Not against, teams of cuirassiers are still existing and only ask to have the possibility to play to participate. Also for some players, don't hesitate to let me play cuirassier in the Draft Cup and I will be present on the front line on the battlefield
[close]

I would like to say, your English has improved dramatically as of late.  Very well done to you, and there are some valid points throughout what you have said for both.  But again i'll always revert back to the equal playing field as my main point of keeping the same classes.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: DragonKing on December 28, 2020, 09:37:14 pm
Spoiler
Spoiler
- Hussar is the only class allowed.

so I'm going to ask the drama question: "why?"

It's just surprising then that the cuirassiers teams won the last editions in 5vs5 format to put them aside like this. So very experienced players in this class will not be able to play it. Very unfortunate

If the idea is simply to play with just one class, then I suppose the community will shrink even further for what's left of it

Good luck for the rest of your tournament. I sincerely wish you a very good tournament while I'm going back to BannerLord
[close]

I think that is because most likely every regiment in the fantasy league will be hussars. It's simply the most popular class. And sticking to one class makes the tournament more fair as everyone have the same conditions.

 I understand you point of view Lindbom and It is true that there are no really competitive cuirassiers regiments left compared to the overwhelming majority of hussar regiments. Nevertheless, it seems to me that what differentiates the very good player from the good player is his ability to adapt to his opponents. I think that there are still undefeated teams of cuirassiers and that some players dream of being able to face them again and finally defeat them after a lot of effort. Instead of forgetting HeavyCav teams under the pretext that they don't play in the same class, I propose to confront them. They are few in number but still present

Think about the time aswell. Its hosted on one night.

ah indeed, it's true that the matches between hussars and cuirassiers are long and maybe a time limit could have limited this problem? and then the matches in 5vs5 are not as long as the big matches between two big regiments of more than twenty players. Let's be honest, I don't remember, as far as I can remember, a match that was rather short in 5vs5 format

Spoiler
- Hussar is the only class allowed.

so I'm going to ask the drama question: "why?"

It's just surprising then that the cuirassiers teams won the last editions in 5vs5 format to put them aside like this. So very experienced players in this class will not be able to play it. Very unfortunate

If the idea is simply to play with just one class, then I suppose the community will shrink even further for what's left of it

Good luck for the rest of your tournament. I sincerely wish you a very good tournament while I'm going back to BannerLord
[close]


I mean all guys are having now the same cards to play with, not bad imo


but that was the case before. Playing with its advantages to the point of abusing them to win.Different advantages, of course, but as in E-sport games like LOL for example, a hero/class can dominate at one moment and be dominated at another. It all depends on how you use your advantages and many other factors


Spoiler
- Hussar is the only class allowed.

so I'm going to ask the drama question: "why?"

It's just surprising then that the cuirassiers teams won the last editions in 5vs5 format to put them aside like this. So very experienced players in this class will not be able to play it. Very unfortunate

If the idea is simply to play with just one class, then I suppose the community will shrink even further for what's left of it

Good luck for the rest of your tournament. I sincerely wish you a very good tournament while I'm going back to BannerLord
[close]
Also lowers the amount of toxicity a very small bit since heavies are prime targets for (fully deserved) abuse and insults.

It is true that some members of the hussar community (a minority, not all) are extremely toxic towards the cuirassier community, even going so far as to create unnecessary drama against them. I would say (at face value) that 5% of these players are the source of more than 95% of the insults in this regard. Maybe, if we want to fight against toxicity, fight against this type of players rather than the class in question :)

As far as I discussed it with Skittles (can't be 100% certain since nothing has been announced yet) the Fantasy League will be Hussars only, as it's easier to rate players (give them a prize in that case) based on one class rather than on two.
As this tournament's main goal is to serve as a seeding base for the Fantasy League, it makes sense to use the rules which are likely to be put in place once the event arises, to guarantee fairness and equal conditions to every participant.

I'm not gonna hide it though, except if I am to host a big league like the CL, I probably won't allow more than one class in the competitions I organize. I would be genuinely interested in hosting a cuirassier only tournament in future though, assuming there is an obvious interest for it. I just don't fix the two mix well together, and although I respect people thinking differently, at the end of the day the tournaments I host represent my competitive views, not those of the entire cavalry community.

All right, I can understand the idea of wanting to rank the Hussar players among themselves, which I think is important. But isn't a very good hussar able to adapt? Can't he manage to change his game against another kind of adversity? Isn't that what differentiates a very good player from a good player? A good regiment from a very good regiment which can adapt his own tactic?

Moreover, about the league, why not allow in the future fantasy league the cuirassiers players to play their class as Thyrell had very cleverly organised for his tournament? The style of one cuirassier for five hussars on the field

As far as a cuirassier league is concerned, this is frankly impossible due to the fact that there are no more or not enough solid cuirassier regiments. I think you are already informed on this point but it is a hope that I tried to apply 3 years ago when there were big cuirassier regiments and it didn't work. Now if it's to allow hussar players to play cuirassier, I don't see any point in making a league of cuirassiers but this will not be taken seriously by the players

I fully understand that it's no satisfactory answer from your perspective but I'd rather be fully transparent about my intentions. I was very clear about it not so long ago (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=44666.msg1981662#msg1981662). I don't mind having other people hosting tournaments including heavies though, neither do I mind partaking in them, I simply don't have any interest in being the one who hosts them as it's not the vision of competition I share.

the fact that you acknowledge it honours you and I am grateful for this honesty. This is your tournament and it is legitimate for you to organise it as you see fit. I really would have liked to take part in it. It's a pity that with the absence of cuirassiers, you are finally taking away my weapon on which I have always played and that takes away all my initial interest that I had in the tournament



I think we'll be fine and if you think I'm wrong, then you clearly have not paid enough attention to what most people experience when they face heavies (be it in 5v5, regimental leagues, etc..). As for every thing, time will tell. Good luck in your Bannelord endeavours, let us know when the game is no longer utter garbage, I'm sure a lot of us would be willing to enjoy it with you.

I think you're wrong and we don't agree on this point. When I look at the other side of the community, I realise that we have always had a lot of diversity. That many people enjoy diversifying their style of play. Indeed, many have complained about cuirassiers. But again, they speak much more than those who have always and will continue to see cavalry matches not as tournaments just between hussars but also between hussars and cuirassiers. Indeed, there are probably more people who think that there should be only one class: hussars and this is a great regret for me.

For BannerLord, I propose that we look at the number of simultaneous connections on both games. 3,000 on Warband versus 15,000 on BannerLord. The revolution is here and time will prove me right: when Taleword closes the servers on Warband, you'll have to face the facts
Honestly, on this spade, I want to add that the game has really improved and the rider duels on this game are just so much better than on Warband. Honestly, this game is great:and it will continue to improve thanks to the active game community that is working with the developers to provide a better experience for players

Spoiler
- Hussar is the only class allowed.

so I'm going to ask the drama question: "why?"

It's just surprising then that the cuirassiers teams won the last editions in 5vs5 format to put them aside like this. So very experienced players in this class will not be able to play it. Very unfortunate

If the idea is simply to play with just one class, then I suppose the community will shrink even further for what's left of it

Good luck for the rest of your tournament. I sincerely wish you a very good tournament while I'm going back to BannerLord
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It's not anything directly indicated against heavy players.  But it was simply put in place to create a level-playing field for everyone.  I feel it would create less drama overall.  I am sorry if you think this is aimed at anyone directly, it really isn't!

Just to add on to what Tardet has said, ""I would be genuinely interested in hosting a cuirassier only tournament in future though, assuming there is an obvious interest for it".  I also spoke with him not too long ago and we were saying we would be interested in doing something like this!

I totally understand the idea of making hussars cup but let's face it, making a heavy cup is completely impossible. This is the biggest tragedy: the cuirassiers regiments (14pk, 1erRC, DCL) all disbanded after winning all the tournaments in any format. We have always been a minority against a majority of hussars.It is true that there are no really competitive cuirassiers regiments left compared to the overwhelming majority of hussar regiments. It is also true that regiments of lancers and then cuirassiers were not much help.But like the lancers in the past, don't expect the cuirassiers to play a different class. I mean, this may have been the case for the SNC because it was a national issue, but I clearly doubt that cuirassiers will not play as hussars. once again, those who make dramas about cuirassiers are still few in number, but they are the authors of the great majority of the dramas and God knows they were numerous. By the way, there is still the 8pk and the regiments of hussars who will want to play cuirassiers, in short little interest. Not against, teams of cuirassiers are still existing and only ask to have the possibility to play to participate. Also for some players, don't hesitate to let me play cuirassier in the Draft Cup and I will be present on the front line on the battlefield
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I would like to say, your English has improved dramatically as of late.  Very well done to you, and there are some valid points throughout what you have said for both.  But again i'll always revert back to the equal playing field as my main point of keeping the same classes.

Thank you, I had very good teachers. Although I think it is sad that you do not go back on this position and of course I find it legitimate since it is your tournament and well, it's also the opinion of many players (Edit: but not all of them)
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Dokletian on December 28, 2020, 09:37:44 pm
the revolution is here and time will prove me right
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on December 28, 2020, 09:43:37 pm
I am not gonna repeat things I just said in the post above, I'm happy enough you got the chance to formulate a proper response (which if anything, shows how much your English has been improving in so little time) but I will leave it personally at that. No point explaining I disagree with some of your points just for the sake it as it won't bring anything valuable to the discussion.

Just for the record, however, when I was talking about a heavy competition, I was more thinking about a one-night tournament with teams (just like this one) rather than something last over weeks/months with regiments, for the exact reasons you mentioned. I remember that when we played to train vs you & the CI during the CL, we had internal battles in the 4e where half of us would go as heavies. On the heavy side these fights proved enjoyable/amusing for the little time we did them and that's why I assume some hussars wouldn't mind making for a change and play competition as heavies versus other heavies from time to time. I at least know I would.

Why does it have to be all on one evening? And how long is it expected to last (how many hours)?

Because groupfighting tournaments have traditionally always been on one evening (thinking about PrideofNi's tournaments for instance). The 5v5 hosted by the 2Lr was an exception in that regards (as far as I know at least) and although perfectly run, it asked a lot more commitment from teams & admins. This is just to give Skittles another way (outside of regimental competitions) to properly seed his Fantasy League and at the same time, have some different fun from what we experienced the last couple of months (CL, SNC).

I will probably try to aim at finishing the tournament before midnight. If we run past that point it was planned to make an agreement with captains beforehand to know if they prefer continuing playing to finish the last matches, or postpone them to Saturday and/or Sunday. But I won't let it slide further than the weekend, as there are other competitions planned the week after and from experience, if you let people responsible of scheduling these matches, they never make it happen.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: DragonKing on December 28, 2020, 09:56:41 pm
I am not gonna repeat things I just said in the post above, I'm happy enough you got the chance to formulate a proper response (which if anything, shows how much your English has been improving in so little time) but I will leave it personally at that. No point explaining I disagree with some of your points just for the sake it as it won't bring anything valuable to the discussion.

Just for the record, however, when I was talking about a heavy competition, I was more thinking about a one-night tournament with teams (just like this one) rather than something last over weeks/months with regiments, for the exact reasons you mentioned. I remember that when we played to train vs you & the CI during the CL, we had internal battles in the 4e where half of us would go as heavies. On the heavy side these fights proved enjoyable/amusing for the little time we did them and that's why I assume some hussars wouldn't mind making for a change and play competition as heavies versus other heavies from time to time. I at least know I would.

Thank you especially for letting me express myself. It's a pity that we don't have the opportunity to continue our exchanges and that you prefer to point the finger at my English. I could give you the name of my teacher but that is not the point because you already have a good command of the language. Again, it is very sad that you cannot understand a part of the cavalry community. Well, especially for me because I won't be able to take part in this competition. In any case, I only have to wait for the edition of cuirassiers and if you need help creating it, call me. Finally, there must still be active cuirassiers until then because, as I said before, the last cuirassiers will not stay if nothing is offered to them

Because groupfighting tournaments have traditionally always been on one evening (thinking about PrideofNi's tournaments for instance). The 5v5 hosted by the 2Lr was an exception in that regards (as far as I know at least) and although perfectly run, it asked a lot more commitment from teams & admins.

Edit: not really in the cav comunity, 5vs5 tournaments have traditionally lasted for several weeks. you have this one (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=43189.0), but also the 5vs5 league of the Nr4&2lr. in fact, over 3 years, the 5vs5 always lasted several weeks. It changed with the 3v3 format, duel format and your tournament aswell
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Octanidas on December 28, 2020, 10:14:48 pm
I can only remember the 5vs5 Tournament of DragonKing early this year which was played weekly and in my opinion a lot of fun. I only played one Tournament which was played on one evening and it felt exhausting. The funny thing is that the most interesting Matches had the weakest effort because of the time. I understand that it is usual in this Community to host such Events but i still don't understand why.

So again the question, how many hours is it supposed to last? I personally have neither the time nor the motivation to play three, four or even more hours at once.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: stevve on December 28, 2020, 10:29:30 pm
So again the question, how many hours is it supposed to last? I personally have neither the time nor the motivation to play three, four or even more hours at once.
How is he supposed to know how long it will take? That depends on how long the respective rounds last. Since the first matches are only Ft3, you can assume that they will not last longer than 10-15 minutes.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Dokletian on December 28, 2020, 10:38:07 pm
Only thing I can say to this is that when I hosted my Duel Tournament last year, everyone was trying to explain how the whole thing couldn't be done on one evening - turned out that it worked perfectly fine.

Tournaments that last several weeks get boring really fast and in the end nobody really cares about them anymore.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: ~Felix~ on December 28, 2020, 10:43:55 pm
Huehue Thyrell and myself created that idea in the last Fantasy League which said that 5 hussars and 1 cuirassier are needed on your roster and ingame
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: QuinnML on December 28, 2020, 10:44:05 pm
Hussars: Try to play a fun, friendly, fast paced tournament

Cuirassiers:

Spoiler
(https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/37e/828/1e2a2943b3871f23576937330a0fbdd9f6-squidward.rsquare.w700.jpg)
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Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Octanidas on December 28, 2020, 10:44:30 pm
It should be possible to estimate the rough duration. I guess Tardet has a clear vision of how all of this is supposed to happen. You talk like it would be totally random wether the tournament lasts three or eleven hours or just 30 minutes xD

Or at least it should be clear if there is a Deadline like "if the Event still isn't finished after x hours we have to continue another day" or not.

Edit: This Post was @stevve. Didn't expect three other guys to join the party that quickly.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: DragonKing on December 28, 2020, 10:50:07 pm
I can only remember the 5vs5 Tournament of DragonKing early this year which was played weekly and in my opinion a lot of fun. I only played one Tournament which was played on one evening and it felt exhausting. The funny thing is that the most interesting Matches had the weakest effort because of the time. I understand that it is usual in this Community to host such Events but i still don't understand why.

So again the question, how many hours is it supposed to last? I personally have neither the time nor the motivation to play three, four or even more hours at once.

I greatly appreciated to organized the tournament but also the matches. Especially this glorious and epic final. Glad you liked it too :)

Huehue Thyrell and myself created that idea in the last Fantasy League which said that 5 hussars and 1 cuirassier is needed on your roster and ingame

It was a very good idea and a tournament that I really enjoyed


Hussars: Try to play a fun, friendly, fast paced tournament

Cuirassiers:

Spoiler
(https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/37e/828/1e2a2943b3871f23576937330a0fbdd9f6-squidward.rsquare.w700.jpg)
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well yeah, I also want to kill people on a video game and try to win one more medal
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on December 28, 2020, 10:50:11 pm
Edit: not really in the cav comunity, 5vs5 tournaments have traditionally lasted for several weeks. you have this one (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=43189.0), but also the 5vs5 league of the Nr4&2lr. in fact, over 3 years, the 5vs5 always lasted several weeks. It changed with the 3v3 format, duel format and your tournament aswell

I am playing since 2012 so when I say traditionally it means 'since cavalry tournament existed'. Here are examples of tournaments that happened from 2013 to 2014, that were 5v5s and lasted over one night:

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=2494.0
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=6132.0
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=8185.0
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=9692.0
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=11247.0
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=12158.0
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=23528.0

I have looked over a bit and it does appear indeed that 5v5 has become the trend in the late years of NW (with very of them hosted from 2015 to 2017) so it wasn't only the 2Lr/Nr4's one as I thought but traditionally speaking, they have been on one night.

I can only remember the 5vs5 Tournament of DragonKing early this year which was played weekly and in my opinion a lot of fun. I only played one Tournament which was played on one evening and it felt exhausting. The funny thing is that the most interesting Matches had the weakest effort because of the time. I understand that it is usual in this Community to host such Events but i still don't understand why.

So again the question, how many hours is it supposed to last? I personally have neither the time nor the motivation to play three, four or even more hours at once.

Weekly events are fun, nobody is denying that and DK / 2Lr&Nr4 editions are living proof of it. But as I already mentioned it several times on this thread, this tournament serves a bigger purpose which is the Fantasy League. The Fantasy League WILL be a weekly competition and that's what you should be looking forward to if you prefer these sort of formats. No point planning a weekly 5v5 cup when you know there is one coming just around the corner, don't you think?

This will be the first cav gf tournament I host so I don't have references to go off from but from memory, as I expect we won't get more than 12 teams, this should be finished in less than 3 hours for 99% of the teams. Depending on if you plan on making it far, you can count on a good 2h or 2,30h, but hardly more. And just like I mentioned, if we happen to be late, there is always the possibility of calling it off for the night and resume the following day or the day after for the teams still in the tournament (that's why we planned it on a Friday, to have more flexibility if such an issue arise). That's something we'll be discussing with captains once we have them all signed-up with proper rosters, but we understand the concern and will try to be prepared for any eventualities.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Octanidas on December 28, 2020, 10:51:07 pm
Only thing I can say to this is that when I hosted my Duel Tournament last year, everyone was trying to explain how the whole thing couldn't be done on one evening - turned out that it worked perfectly fine.

"One evening" does not mean the same for everyone.

Quote from: Dokletian
link=topic=45323.msg2006184#msg2006184 date=1609191487
Tournaments that last several weeks get boring really fast and in the end nobody really cares about them anymore.

That is just an opinion. And i don't think you were not caring about the DCL vs Gimps Final in the 5vs5 Tournament this year. But if so, at least i was looking forward to it.

Edit: failed the quoting  :(
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: DragonKing on December 28, 2020, 10:56:50 pm
Edit: not really in the cav comunity, 5vs5 tournaments have traditionally lasted for several weeks. you have this one (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=43189.0), but also the 5vs5 league of the Nr4&2lr. in fact, over 3 years, the 5vs5 always lasted several weeks. It changed with the 3v3 format, duel format and your tournament aswell

I am playing since 2012 so when I say traditionally it means 'since cavalry tournament existed'. Here are examples of tournaments that happened from 2013 to 2014, that were 5v5s and lasted over one night:

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=2494.0
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=6132.0
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=8185.0
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=9692.0
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=11247.0
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=12158.0
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=23528.0

I have looked over a bit and it does appear indeed that 5v5 has become the trend in the late years of NW (with very of them hosted from 2015 to 2017) so it wasn't only the 2Lr/Nr4's one but traditionally speaking, they have been on one night.


I do not question this fact. Nevertheless, if in 2017 the format has changed, it is for a good reason. It lasted more than 3 years because indeed the rider matches are longer. So you are wrong when you say that it is a tradition but changing traditions can also be a good thing. Afterwards, as Dokletian says, it can also work very well with duels and 3v3 format. You just have to see how it goes. It all depends on the time of the matches and the organization

Personally, I agree with Dokletian on this point, a quick tournament is better than one that lasts a whole month because the hype disappears expect for the favorits team. Still, the tournament should not last too long on one day to keep the spirit and concentration fresh. Besides, if everyone could participate with their own weapon, it would be even better

it is also true, and octanidas does well to point it out, that many players will not be able to stay a whole night especially if they work the next day
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Octanidas on December 28, 2020, 10:57:22 pm
This should be finished in less than 3 hours for 99% of the teams. Depending on if you plan on making it far, you can count on a good 2h or 2,30h, but hardly more. And just like I mentioned, if we happen to be late, there is always the possibility of calling it off for the night and resume the following day or the day after for the teams still in the tournament (that's why we planned it on a Friday, to have more flexibility if such an issue arise).

Thank you, now that is something to work with  :D ;)
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: DE14HANNES on December 28, 2020, 11:04:18 pm
The rule is god like. Im rly happy like many other players, now its just about skill and not the class or the tiny map. DK you dont have to talk about LOL on this thread, this is completly different. There is no other way to make this 100% fair to all players. I mean i dont play against heavy teams. If this rule werent there, i would simply not come to these matches.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: DragonKing on December 28, 2020, 11:11:54 pm
The rule is god like. Im rly happy like many other players, now its just about skill and not the class or the tiny map. DK you dont have to talk about LOL on this thread, this is completly different. There is no other way to make this 100% fair to all players. I mean i dont play against heavy teams. If this rule werent there, i would simply not come to these matches.

Once again (and sorry Tardet if I pollute your thread), I suggest you read what I wrote again. I used LOL but I could have talked about any other competitive game like OverWatch for example. The fact is whether you come or not you would lose because you can't adapt to cuirassiers gameplay. You are a really good player when it comes to hussars but only good against cuirassiers. and I don't want to offend you by saying this, I'm just giving the facts and my feelings (because, I am convinced that you would destroy me 10-0 if I made a hussar duel against you whereas if I played cuirassier, the result would be different)
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: DE14HANNES on December 28, 2020, 11:19:28 pm
The rule is god like. Im rly happy like many other players, now its just about skill and not the class or the tiny map. DK you dont have to talk about LOL on this thread, this is completly different. There is no other way to make this 100% fair to all players. I mean i dont play against heavy teams. If this rule werent there, i would simply not come to these matches.

Once again (and sorry Tardet if I pollute your thread), I suggest you read what I wrote again. I used LOL but I could have talked about any other competitive game like OverWatch for example. The fact is whether you come or not you would lose because you can't adapt to cuirassiers gameplay. You are a really good player when it comes to hussars but only good against cuirassiers. and I don't want to offend you by saying this, I'm just giving the facts and my feelings (because, I am convinced that you would destroy me 10-0 if I made a hussar duel against you)


ye thats true, im not that good against heavys because i need the factor fun for playing good. I wouldnt rly care if i would get a lost to this, i didnt showed up Ger vs Pol because of that. if there is no fun in it, then its just feels like work.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on December 28, 2020, 11:21:44 pm
This should be finished in less than 3 hours for 99% of the teams. Depending on if you plan on making it far, you can count on a good 2h or 2,30h, but hardly more. And just like I mentioned, if we happen to be late, there is always the possibility of calling it off for the night and resume the following day or the day after for the teams still in the tournament (that's why we planned it on a Friday, to have more flexibility if such an issue arise).

Thank you, now that is something to work with  :D ;)
You are welcome! To give you a clearer idea of the tournament's format it should be:

- 4 groups of 3 teams, everyone play each other in each group (so essentially 3 rounds, two matches per team). If you have 4 arenas like I expect we will, that makes it possible to play four matches at the same time, meaning you can decently hope to finish the first part (group stage) in 1h/1h30.
- From that point, 8 teams (the two best of each group) remain, meaning you directly delve into the quarter-finals, then semi-finals, then final and boom, the tournament's over. So on paper, the tournament can be finished for most teams (if not all) in less than three hours.

Obviously, that's the theory and sometimes you face unexpected delays which sort of change the deal with server issues, long-ass matches, etc .. but Skittles and I will have our hearts set on preparing ourselves as best as possible. Everyone who knows me in the community can tell you I care a huge deal about the stuff I host and usually carefully plan my stuff. My main issue has always been keeping my motivation high for tournaments lasting over a long period of time but for a one-night thing, I do believe Skittles and I will manage. That doesn't mean it always goes swimmingly, but we usually have a plan B/C to counter the problems we could face because we put some thinking into it beforehand.

If some of you are still worried about the tournament lasting too long, moving it one hour or one and a half hour before is also a decent option that's worth being considered. 

Personally, I agree with Dokletian on this point, a quick tournament is better than one that lasts a whole month because the hype disappears expect for the favorits team. Still, the tournament should not last too long on one day to keep the spirit and concentration fresh. Besides, if everyone could participate with their own weapon, it would be even better

it is also true, and octanidas does well to point it out, that many players will not be able to stay a whole night especially if they work the next day

The infantry community has been playing these sort of formats since years, feel free to ask them if playing for 3h hours straight alter their focus to a drastic extent or if they deem it impossible to work with in a competitive environment. And that's with the tournament being held on Sundays mostly, with everyone working/going to school the next day.

The 'many players will not be able to stay a whole night especially if they work the next day' honestly looks like you are running out of proper arguments and start being petty but hey, if a large portion of the people potentially partaking in the tournament suddenly all have to wake up at 5am on a Saturday morning for work, please have them sent my way so we can find a proper solution. I will be waiting for them eagerly.
 
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Michnicki 1 on December 28, 2020, 11:22:20 pm
As a Cuirassier I don' feel offended in any way and I wish you good luck in hosting such an interesting tournament.
Great job Tardet and Skittles, It would be a pleasure to take part in this event.


I also wonder why is it taking so long for DK to finally leave Warband. I'm look forward to the day when I wake up and not have to look at the this insolent lady.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: DragonKing on December 28, 2020, 11:25:09 pm
The rule is god like. Im rly happy like many other players, now its just about skill and not the class or the tiny map. DK you dont have to talk about LOL on this thread, this is completly different. There is no other way to make this 100% fair to all players. I mean i dont play against heavy teams. If this rule werent there, i would simply not come to these matches.

Once again (and sorry Tardet if I pollute your thread), I suggest you read what I wrote again. I used LOL but I could have talked about any other competitive game like OverWatch for example. The fact is whether you come or not you would lose because you can't adapt to cuirassiers gameplay. You are a really good player when it comes to hussars but only good against cuirassiers. and I don't want to offend you by saying this, I'm just giving the facts and my feelings (because, I am convinced that you would destroy me 10-0 if I made a hussar duel against you)


ye thats true, im not that good against heavys because i need the factor fun for playing good. I wouldnt rly care if i would get a lost to this, i didnt showed up Ger vs Pol because of that. if there is no fun in it, then its just feels like work.

we totally agree that we need to have fun when we play. Thank you for your honesty. Besides, I think you can have a lot of fun playing against another class. Personally, I've had a lot of fun. as well for hussars in Tier 1 of the Ciiges list who explain to me that they had fun playing against this class. because it allowed for a variety of tactics. Again, I understand that some people may not like it. However, to prevent those who do like it from playing is a bit sad. Especially since we're not talking about bringing a dozen teams of cuirassiers, but just a few who would like to put their title back in play
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on December 28, 2020, 11:27:25 pm
You do understand DK that there is literally nothing preventing you from hosting a 5v5 tournament with heavies, on any given weekend. Feels like it would be a better time invested than endlessly arguing on this thread about something which is not going to change, no matter how 'saddening' it is.

Just because one tournament forbid all classes but one doesn't mean it has to become the norm in every other tournament. A the end of the day, you are the maker of your own destiny, and I'm convinced a 5v5 tournament with heavies and hussars both included would meet an equal (if not bigger) success as this one. 

Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: DE14HANNES on December 28, 2020, 11:31:09 pm
You do understand DK that there is literally nothing preventing you from hosting a 5v5 tournament with heavies, on any given weekend. Feels like it would be a better time invested than endlessly arguing on this thread about something which is not going to change, no matter how 'saddening' it is.

Just because one tournament forbid all classes but one doesn't mean it has to become the norm in every other tournament. A the end of the day, you are the maker of your own destiny, and I'm convinced a 5v5 tournament with heavies and hussars both included would meet an equal (if not bigger) success as this one.


(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7ZetIsjtbkgNE1I4/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: DragonKing on December 28, 2020, 11:34:19 pm



I also wonder why is DK leaving Warband?

I couldn't wait to be asked! Very simply for 3 things:
1) the next tournaments ban cuirassiers teams which discourages me. I will be able to set up tournaments but it takes too much time and increases the stress.
2) I feel like I've earned everything I had to earn (1v1, 3v3, 5vs5, Nations cup, LB championship). and I've spent so many evenings playing more than 3 hours against toxic teams that I say stop. As DE14HANNES said, when we play we need to have fun. I saw, I came, I won and now they don't want me anymore so I'm going to the future :) Nevertheless, I like the game and come back for an evening to have a little fun and distraction, I say yes
3) I am very tired of always hearing players complaining about the cuirassiers. A lot of people who hate me for not too many reasons, often simply because I'm a cuirassier and because I argue in favour of my class. It has become a generality. After the lancers, it's the cuirassiers' turn to be ejected. and it disgusts me. I chose the cavalry for its diversity and this is what it becomes :) but this is the fate of any community, you will tell me and I will answer: maybe
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: DragonKing on December 28, 2020, 11:36:54 pm
You do understand DK that there is literally nothing preventing you from hosting a 5v5 tournament with heavies, on any given weekend. Feels like it would be a better time invested than endlessly arguing on this thread about something which is not going to change, no matter how 'saddening' it is.

Just because one tournament forbid all classes but one doesn't mean it has to become the norm in every other tournament. A the end of the day, you are the maker of your own destiny, and I'm convinced a 5v5 tournament with heavies and hussars both included would meet an equal (if not bigger) success as this one.

I admit it's not the first and last and if I have to organize a tournament just to participate, it's pretty demoralizing. Again, I really wish I could have played this tournament. I don't have the time to organize or even the desire anymore but obviously, I wish you all the best.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: DE14HANNES on December 28, 2020, 11:37:41 pm
As a Cuirassier I don' feel offended in any way and I wish you good luck in hosting such an interesting tournament.
Great job Tardet and Skittles, It would be a pleasure to take part in this event.


I also wonder why is it taking so long for DK to finally leave Warband. I'm look forward to the day when I wake up and not have to look at the this insolent lady.

I couldn't wait to be asked! Very simply for 3 things:
1) the next tournaments ban cuirassiers teams which discourages me. I will be able to set up tournaments but it takes too much time and increases the stress.
2) I feel like I've earned everything I had to earn (1v1, 3v3, 5vs5, Nations cup, LB championship). and I've spent so many evenings playing more than 3 hours against toxic teams that I say stop. As DE14HANNES said, when we play we need to have fun. I saw, I came, I won and now they don't want me anymore so I'm going to the future :) Nevertheless, I like the game and come back for an evening to have a little fun and distraction, I say yes
3) I am very tired of always hearing players complaining about the cuirassiers. A lot of people who hate me for not too many reasons, often simply because I'm a cuirassier and because I argue in favour of my class. It has become a generality. After the lancers, it's the cuirassiers' turn to be ejected. and it disgusts me. I chose the cavalry for its diversity and this is what it becomes :) but this is the fate of any community, you will tell me and I will answer: maybe

(https://media.giphy.com/media/l0Iun3JN3FxgL84XS/giphy.gif)

btw most of the time you got carried
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: DragonKing on December 28, 2020, 11:40:17 pm
Spoiler
As a Cuirassier I don' feel offended in any way and I wish you good luck in hosting such an interesting tournament.
Great job Tardet and Skittles, It would be a pleasure to take part in this event.


I also wonder why is it taking so long for DK to finally leave Warband. I'm look forward to the day when I wake up and not have to look at the this insolent lady.

I couldn't wait to be asked! Very simply for 3 things:
1) the next tournaments ban cuirassiers teams which discourages me. I will be able to set up tournaments but it takes too much time and increases the stress.
2) I feel like I've earned everything I had to earn (1v1, 3v3, 5vs5, Nations cup, LB championship). and I've spent so many evenings playing more than 3 hours against toxic teams that I say stop. As DE14HANNES said, when we play we need to have fun. I saw, I came, I won and now they don't want me anymore so I'm going to the future :) Nevertheless, I like the game and come back for an evening to have a little fun and distraction, I say yes
3) I am very tired of always hearing players complaining about the cuirassiers. A lot of people who hate me for not too many reasons, often simply because I'm a cuirassier and because I argue in favour of my class. It has become a generality. After the lancers, it's the cuirassiers' turn to be ejected. and it disgusts me. I chose the cavalry for its diversity and this is what it becomes :) but this is the fate of any community, you will tell me and I will answer: maybe

(https://media.giphy.com/media/l0Iun3JN3FxgL84XS/giphy.gif)
[close]

I respond to the fact with facts. You flee from cuirassiers matches because you are not having fun. I do the same because I'm not having fun anymore :) in fact, we follow the same reasoning. If that's a victim's reasoning according to you, then you're a victim too :o
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on December 28, 2020, 11:42:33 pm
Alright, I'm going to put an end to it because you don't seem to understand when it's time to stop yourself.

It feels like everything which had to be said about it, has been said. I don't want to wake-up tomorrow to another dozen pages of this so lets quit the unneeded provocation and leave it that.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Treiz35 on December 28, 2020, 11:44:46 pm
Lets start a with something else


fuck erik
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: DragonKing on December 28, 2020, 11:45:06 pm
All right, thank you for giving me the opportunity to express myself. I wish you a good tournament and a lot of fun

See you soon on BannerLord or in a tournament with cuirassiers ;)
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Dokletian on December 28, 2020, 11:45:09 pm
fuck erik
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Michnicki 1 on December 28, 2020, 11:50:21 pm



fuck erik


Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Treiz35 on December 28, 2020, 11:52:29 pm
Well lets not start a pyramid of my quote pls, Tardet is going to hit me
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Erik le Rouge on December 28, 2020, 11:52:58 pm
why did "fuck erik" suddenly put an end to 2 pages or arguing and novel-writting

fuck treiz
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Aless on December 29, 2020, 12:20:02 am
I need to post something so the feeds shows, therefore:


fuck erik
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Michnicki 1 on December 29, 2020, 12:26:17 am
Btw after many years of being savage heavy I finally decided to become hussar.
Does anyone love me right now?  :'(

fuck Erik
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Bocom on December 29, 2020, 12:42:35 am
fuck treiz

I can only agree.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: TxM on December 29, 2020, 12:52:28 am
fuck erik
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: DE14HANNES on December 29, 2020, 12:53:06 am
Btw after many years of being savage heavy I finally decided to become hussar.
Does anyone love me right now?  :'(

fuck Erik


We all do
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: FreyrDS on December 29, 2020, 12:53:57 am
Btw after many years of being savage heavy I finally decided to become hussar.
Does anyone love me right now?  :'(

fuck Erik
Sadly it wasn't the heavy part that made people dislike you. It's the fact that you're Polish.

My most sincere condolences.


fuck Erik
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Remao on December 29, 2020, 01:08:11 am
I want to wrote something here.

Good luck all, apparently someone put me in the winner team of this tourney ... Have fun  ;D

Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Skittles on December 29, 2020, 01:28:43 am
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Team Name: Purple Cobras
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Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Termito on December 29, 2020, 02:43:48 am
Imagine a tournament thread without drama.

fuck erik.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Husarion7k on December 29, 2020, 08:58:05 am
Btw after many years of being savage heavy I finally decided to become hussar.
Does anyone love me right now?  :'(

fuck Erik
Sadly it wasn't the heavy part that made people dislike you. It's the fact that you're Polish.

My most sincere condolences.


fuck Erik

Get back to your dark lair, you cave troll.

Fuck Waffle.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Atlatan on December 29, 2020, 09:26:32 am
As a heavy I agree with DK that’s sad if cuirassiers are exluded from cav tournaments. Even if there are no more regular heavy regiments, there are still players who played mainly on that class and it hits in them.

However if the competition has to be finished quickly like this one-day tournament, the decision and rules are completely understandable.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: FreyrDS on December 29, 2020, 11:40:00 am
Btw after many years of being savage heavy I finally decided to become hussar.
Does anyone love me right now?  :'(

fuck Erik
Sadly it wasn't the heavy part that made people dislike you. It's the fact that you're Polish.

My most sincere condolences.



Get back to your dark lair, you cave troll.

Fuck Waffle.
Less talking, more cleaning.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: lindblom on December 29, 2020, 12:30:50 pm
Having this discussion again is so tiresome. The hoster of any tournaments make the rules they see fit. By entering the tournament you agree to these rules. Just respect that they want a competition where everyone gets equal opportunities. Nothing is going to change by bringing this discussion up on the table again.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Vegi. on December 29, 2020, 12:32:59 pm
Tardet more like drama king
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on December 29, 2020, 12:39:58 pm
Tardet more like drama king
I am just doing it for the views.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Vegi. on December 29, 2020, 01:33:17 pm
Tardet more like drama king
I am just doing it for the views.
Already subscribed
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Ciiges on December 29, 2020, 01:58:51 pm
Lovely discussions as always.

fuck erik
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: StephanGH on December 29, 2020, 03:42:44 pm
Let's hope every tournament will be hussars only going forward.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: QuinnML on December 29, 2020, 03:56:39 pm
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Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: LaSalle on December 29, 2020, 05:14:12 pm
Steam (Captain): LaSalle
Team Name: HOMOSEXUALS
Team Tag: HOMO*S
Players:
LaSalle - 428325
Leensab - 1476538
Draco - 1534396
Domi - 2101026
Tengou - 499474
Yuki - GUID
TBA - GUID
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Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Remao on December 29, 2020, 05:19:45 pm
Steam (Captain): LaSalle
Team Name: HOMOSEXUALS
Team Tag: HOMO*S
Players:
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Leensab - STEAM_0:1:174528633
Draco - 76561198272825284
Domi - 76561198417103752
TBA - GUID
TBA - GUID
TBA - GUID
Did you read and accept the rules?: Yes

How I can lead this ...
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on December 29, 2020, 05:24:58 pm
We got the winning team right here gentlemen.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Gibby Jr on December 29, 2020, 05:56:44 pm
For BannerLord, I propose that we look at the number of simultaneous connections on both games. 3,000 on Warband versus 15,000 on BannerLord. The revolution is here and time will prove me right: when Taleword closes the servers on Warband, you'll have to face the facts
Honestly, on this spade, I want to add that the game has really improved and the rider duels on this game are just so much better than on Warband. Honestly, this game is great:and it will continue to improve thanks to the active game community that is working with the developers to provide a better experience for players

I am going to engage with this solely to give some actual data, some of which is directly from TW, to demonstrate not only that Warband has a higher percentage of MP players per population than Bannerlord, but that it actually has a higher total of MP players than it as well.

First, you give Warband 3,000. At this very moment Warband has 6,671 players (https://i.gyazo.com/40fd4de4770d47d84dfed3ecc0b0afd9.png), more than double your insanely low estimate.
Second, you are accurate that Bannerlord has ~15,000, as at this moment it has 15,891 (https://i.gyazo.com/224166ff266cbb166e0b90385df90cf9.png).

Your insane bias and misrepresentation aside, these raw figures prove nothing in the way of total MP population for several reasons. Perhaps most importantly, many Warband players use a non-steam version, so the actual number is higher than Steam shows. On Native alone, right now, there are 610 players (https://i.gyazo.com/cfe9ca8bd6a651f587da7a82278c1c6b.png) in MP and two of the top servers, which cannot be counted in the aggregate as they are from other modules (nice browser TW), have ~100 players (https://i.gyazo.com/9d3bf99f6c6b21f77a61d3c62efa7162.jpg). I can see several others on the list with 20-50, so I'm going to be conservative and say that we add those two 100 servers to the 610, plus 4 more with 50, and we get to 1000 players in MP.

Warband has 6,671 players in total and ~1000 in MP. That's exactly 15% of the total population.

For Bannerlord things are a little more complicated because we do not have numbers for the matchmaking, only the barren server browser which gives us a total of 176 players (https://i.gyazo.com/3f56a36767d664116ae31591f7f346c5.png). As said, we can only speculate on the numbers in matchmaking, but I think if we are being generous we can theorise there are at least the same number in matchmaking as in the server browser, so if we multiply our 176 by two, we get 352 players.

However, don't think that I am only using speculation, as we do have cold hard numbers which Callum (TW Community Manager) gave to me upon release of Early Access, which was 6,000 in MP out of a 250,000 total. This is a MASSIVE 2.4% of the total population, six times lower than what Warband has.

Now, obviously the 250,000 Bannerlord had on release did not last, as we can see it has been reduced to 6% of the number with a mere 15,000, so we cannot use the 6,000 MP figure either. However, what we can use is the 2.4% figure which we got from using the figures provided by TaleWorlds. If we apply this to the 15,000 total players in Bannerlord we get 360 players, little more than 1/3 of the total players in Warband's MP.

So, for Bannerlord's MP, using my speculation we reach 352 players and using the data from TaleWorlds we get 360 players. With this in mind, I think it's fair to say that Bannerlord sits comfortably between 350 and 400 players in its MP.

So, here are the actual accurate final numbers for you DragonKing.

Warband total: 6,671
Warband MP: ~1000
Warband MP as a percentage of whole: 15%

Bannerlord total: 15,891
Bannerlord MP: 350-400
Bannerlord MP as a percentage of whole: 2.35%

Categorically, you are wrong to claim that Bannerlord has a more popular MP than Warband.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: LaSalle on December 29, 2020, 06:30:35 pm
Steam (Captain): LaSalle
Team Name: HOMOSEXUALS
Team Tag: HOMO*S
Players:
LaSalle - 76561197993986619
Leensab - STEAM_0:1:174528633
Draco - 76561198272825284
Domi - 76561198417103752
TBA - GUID
TBA - GUID
TBA - GUID
Did you read and accept the rules?: Yes

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Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on December 29, 2020, 06:32:52 pm
I purposely kept that part of DK's bullshitery away in the former drama but I will add to what Gibby said that you can check the team rosters of the BEAST tournaments (which are now at their third edition) and you will see a pattern where almost none of the most active and arguably best players of the different competitive multiplayer modules throughout the last 6-7 years (NW, Native & even Mercenaries) can be spotted. Some went back to inactivity, some stayed on WB but only a slim percentage (below 1% I'd argue) actually kept hopes when it comes to BL multiplayer (in a competitive aspect).

That doesn't mean that BL doesn't have a competitive scene, but clearly, by delivering a clumsy and completely unfinished product, failing to listen to the people who actually knew what they were talking about (Gibby here can tell you a lot about it) and generally failing at understanding why their game had such a lasting highly competitive community throughout all these years, TW killed any potential for a strong, active and highly competitive multiplayer scene on BL.

That's not the point of the thread but let it be a lesson for people who actually don't mind straight-up lying to you to fuel their false narrative. You want to go play BL, tryhard and try to make the multiplayer scene at least as good as what warband was, go for it, nobody ain't stopping you. But trying to threaten players who still very much care about warband in telling them that they will be forced to play BL once TW close the servers is a disgusting approach that is bound to fail. If TW actually does that at some point, that won't make these players switch to BL.

Rant over, sorry about the off-topic.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Kraz on December 29, 2020, 06:36:11 pm
lancers best unit

you're such a weak guy if you complain about the heavy cavalry btw
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Vegi. on December 29, 2020, 06:36:54 pm
lancers best unit
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: DragonKing on December 29, 2020, 06:54:50 pm
Hi Gibby, glad to be able to discuss such serious things with you since it seems to me that you were in the category of people disappointed by the game and therefore chose to stay on Warband. Not an offence, just a statement of fact and many players have done the same.

I would very much like to be able to continue this discussion on Steam or teamspeak or discord because I think that our debate does not really have a place on this thread. I will nevertheless answer here to these figures, true for some but false for others and often misunderstood or in any case, the interpretation that you make of them is not right


Spoiler
Spoiler
For BannerLord, I propose that we look at the number of simultaneous connections on both games. 3,000 on Warband versus 15,000 on BannerLord. The revolution is here and time will prove me right: when Taleword closes the servers on Warband, you'll have to face the facts
Honestly, on this spade, I want to add that the game has really improved and the rider duels on this game are just so much better than on Warband. Honestly, this game is great:and it will continue to improve thanks to the active game community that is working with the developers to provide a better experience for players
[close]

I am going to engage with this solely to give some actual data, some of which is directly from TW, to demonstrate not only that Warband has a higher percentage of MP players per population than Bannerlord, but that it actually has a higher total of MP players than it as well.

First, you give Warband 3,000. At this very moment Warband has 6,671 players (https://i.gyazo.com/40fd4de4770d47d84dfed3ecc0b0afd9.png), more than double your insanely low estimate.
Second, you are accurate that Bannerlord has ~15,000, as at this moment it has 15,891 (https://i.gyazo.com/224166ff266cbb166e0b90385df90cf9.png).

Your insane bias and misrepresentation aside, these raw figures prove nothing in the way of total MP population for several reasons. Perhaps most importantly, many Warband players use a non-steam version, so the actual number is higher than Steam shows. On Native alone, right now, there are 610 players (https://i.gyazo.com/cfe9ca8bd6a651f587da7a82278c1c6b.png) in MP and two of the top servers, which cannot be counted in the aggregate as they are from other modules (nice browser TW), have ~100 players (https://i.gyazo.com/9d3bf99f6c6b21f77a61d3c62efa7162.jpg). I can see several others on the list with 20-50, so I'm going to be conservative and say that we add those two 100 servers to the 610, plus 4 more with 50, and we get to 1000 players in MP.

Warband has 6,671 players in total and ~1000 in MP. That's exactly 15% of the total population.
[close]

Let's start with the figures I gave. They are changing and it goes without saying that the figures do not remain the same from one day to the next. Nevertheless, for a game that is in Early Access and has only one module against a game that has been installed for a long time with many mods and modules, excuse me for telling you but the domination of BannerLord is unquestionable and the fact that there are at least 2 times more players and at most 11 times more is huge. Moreover, you will notice that BannerLord has a stable base while for Warband, it varies according to the competitions and with always the same players. So to say that Warband is more popular than BannerLord is wrong.

For Bannerlord things are a little more complicated because we do not have numbers for the matchmaking, only the barren server browser which gives us a total of 176 players (https://i.gyazo.com/3f56a36767d664116ae31591f7f346c5.png). As said, we can only speculate on the numbers in matchmaking, but I think if we are being generous we can theorise there are at least the same number in matchmaking as in the server browser, so if we multiply our 176 by two, we get 352 players.

these figures are wrong. Let's take an example and count the number of teams present at the BEAST tournament on BannerLord. There are 36 separate teams in 4 divisions, each with between 10 (minimum) and 18 players. This makes a total of at least 360 and at most 648 players. The average is in the 504 players active in skirmish competitions and this does not include the North Americans or players who do not compete but rather do events on the seats or in captain's mode.

However, don't think that I am only using speculation, as we do have cold hard numbers which Callum (TW Community Manager) gave to me upon release of Early Access, which was 6,000 in MP out of a 250,000 total. This is a MASSIVE 2.4% of the total population, six times lower than what Warband has.

The percentage here is meaningless since it is known that it is the singleplayer of BannerLord who advertised as for Warband before. Except that nowadays, nobody plays the Warband solo anymore but instead they play the BannerLord solo. The percentage of multiplayer players compared to the total number of players will therefore logically be higher on Warband than on BannerLord, which has many more people. Nine3, (TW Dev) can confirm aswell :D

Now, obviously the 250,000 Bannerlord had on release did not last, as we can see it has been reduced to 6% of the number with a mere 15,000, so we cannot use the 6,000 MP figure either. However, what we can use is the 2.4% figure which we got from using the figures provided by TaleWorlds. If we apply this to the 15,000 total players in Bannerlord we get 360 players, little more than 1/3 of the total players in Warband's MP.

So, for Bannerlord's MP, using my speculation we reach 352 players and using the data from TaleWorlds we get 360 players. With this in mind, I think it's fair to say that Bannerlord sits comfortably between 350 and 400 players in its MP.

So, here are the actual accurate final numbers for you DragonKing.
If there were only 300 players, I think we could talk about a real disaster, but as I said before, it's not the case. The number of players on BannerLord is very high. on the skirmish mod alone and in a European-only competition with only one game mode, we reach a approximatly more than 500 active players. i doubt that even on the Napoleonic Wars community (I can't talk about the native) reaches such a number.

Spoiler
Warband total: 6,671
Warband MP: ~1000
Warband MP as a percentage of whole: 15%

Bannerlord total: 15,891
Bannerlord MP: 350-400
Bannerlord MP as a percentage of whole: 2.35%

Categorically, you are wrong to claim that Bannerlord has a more popular MP than Warband.
[close]

so once again, I take the liberty of correcting your error by saying that there are more players on BannerLord than you assume. obviously the vast majority play solo. Everybody started that way on Warband and more and more players are going to occupy the multiplayer. This number will increase while yours will certainly decrease unfortunatly for Warband

I don't bother to check for the 1000 multiplayer players but once again it's on all the modules and I really doubt that you'll be able to bring them together on a single mod

I purposely kept that part of DK's bullshitery away in the former drama but I will add to what Gibby said that you can check the team rosters of the BEAST tournaments (which are now at their third edition) and you will see a pattern where almost none of the most active and arguably best players of the different competitive multiplayer modules throughout the last 6-7 years (NW, Native & even Mercenaries) can be spotted. Some went back to inactivity, some stayed on WB but only a slim percentage (below 1% I'd argue) actually kept hopes when it comes to BL multiplayer (in a competitive aspect).

That doesn't mean that BL doesn't have a competitive scene, but clearly, by delivering a clumsy and completely unfinished product, failing to listen to the people who actually knew what they were talking about (Gibby here can tell you a lot about it) and generally failing at understanding why their game had such a lasting highly competitive community throughout all these years, TW killed any potential for a strong, active and highly competitive multiplayer scene on BL.

That's not the point of the thread but let it be a lesson for people who actually don't mind straight-up lying to you to fuel their false narrative. You want to go play BL, tryhard and try to make the multiplayer scene at least as good as what warband was, go for it, nobody ain't stopping you. But trying to threaten players who still very much care about warband in telling them that they will be forced to play BL once TW close the servers is a disgusting approach that is bound to fail. If TW actually does that at some point, that won't make these players switch to BL.

Rant over, sorry about the off-topic.

Tardet, I don't agree with you and yet I'm not saying you're a piece of shit or that you say shit. I thought you were more courteous, but obviously not with everyone. The fact that you say that there is no dialogue between players and developers is once again untrue. Indeed, BannerLord favours singleplayer. Nevertheless, as I said on my previous posts, a dialogue has been made between developers and players from mutli. We sometimes play and test the game and the different patches together in order to give a feedback and that's the goal of an early access :).

no need to criticize a newborn being born because he doesn't speak but if you help him to develop then he can become a Molière. It's an Ealry Acces forget the 8 years we had to wait and tell you that in a few months the game will be over. Do you want to help the game or just criticize it because it is not exactly as the Warband players expected it to be, i.e. a copy of Warband with best graphics

I think Tardet that you know the Warband community very well and certainly better than I do. But that doesn't mean that you know the BannerLord community. Your first impressions were right for a while but are not anymore. I strongly advise you to inform yourself instead of spitting on a game you'll have to go to since it's the sequel to Warband... Or maybe you'd rather die on Warband, it's up to you to see you're old enough for that :)
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Dokletian on December 29, 2020, 06:55:19 pm
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: StephanGH on December 29, 2020, 06:59:08 pm
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on December 29, 2020, 07:08:28 pm
Indeed, I know the warband community well and yet I have hardly ever faced such a level of delusion.

I won't play warband for all my life, that's pretty much a given but I will rather die on it than play any second of BL in its current state and I know quite a few people who contributed into making the warband franchise the amazing multiplayer community (cause that's certainly not TW who did that) you spend years enjoying, think the exact same. If you and your exciting and growing community can afford doing without these people, be my guest and show us.

The only difference at the end of the day is you have hopes and I don't. Wait and see. ;)
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: FreyrDS on December 29, 2020, 07:18:15 pm
Bannerlord multiplayer is deader than the kids in Aless' basement.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Aless on December 29, 2020, 07:21:03 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/tlLPyjX.png)


How does this relate to the tournament at all.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Bocom on December 29, 2020, 07:21:49 pm
Imagine there are 8 pages for a hussars tournament and 5 of them are about a class which is not part of the tournament or about another game.

ImAgInE.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Husarion7k on December 29, 2020, 07:23:22 pm
Imagine there are 8 pages for a hussars tournament and 5 of them are about a class which is not part of the tournament or about another game.

ImAgInE.

Imagine image without imagination
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on December 29, 2020, 07:30:20 pm
How does this relate to the tournament at all.

It does not, but that doesn't mean it cannot be instructive. If you feel someone is literally bullshitting people by giving false numbers/information regardless the subject at hands, you might want to offer an alternative view to what that person is saying and I don't blame Gibby for answering that specific point, although it truly has nothing to do with the tournament.

Now as a host, I probably shouldn't be fueling an already pointless and insanely long discussion but I'm not the one who started it and whenever I read something I deem stupid/wrong, I will always try and call it out. In that sense, DK is the exact same as me, he just got an entirely different opinion and that usually makes for a hectic debate. I could just delete posts but that's not how I usually act, I rather prefer actually engaging on the topic.

There is some on-topic information which should be coming soon about the tournament though, just need to discuss a few specific points with Skittles about rosters.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Kraz on December 29, 2020, 07:33:55 pm
lmao dragonking stop it, this is ridiculous, bannerlord was fun to play only 2 weeks in april
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Treiz35 on December 29, 2020, 07:34:51 pm
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Ciiges on December 29, 2020, 07:36:17 pm
Reminds me of Grozni, same level of delusion...
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: StephanGH on December 29, 2020, 07:54:55 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/MPbX6OD.jpg)
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: QuinnML on December 29, 2020, 08:00:48 pm
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HF_OExi22is/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Kore on December 29, 2020, 09:26:32 pm
Hello, my gamer tag is Kore and my opinions are ALWAYS, 100% objectively correct.

My opinion on the Warband vs N E V E R L O R D topic is - you guessed it - Bannerlord is trash and devs are DUMB. Only SP is worth my time.

Kind regards
me
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Dusbled on December 29, 2020, 09:47:20 pm
Hello, my gamer tag is Kore and my opinions are ALWAYS, 100% objectively correct.

My opinion on the Warband vs N E V E R L O R D topic is - you guessed it - Bannerlord is trash and devs are DUMB. Only SP is worth my time.

Kind regards
me

who are you?
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Termito on December 29, 2020, 09:49:36 pm
Hello, my gamer tag is Kore and my opinions are ALWAYS, 100% objectively correct.

My opinion on the Warband vs N E V E R L O R D topic is - you guessed it - Bannerlord is trash and devs are DUMB. Only SP is worth my time.

Kind regards
me

who are you?
Who are you?
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Grozni on December 29, 2020, 09:58:19 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/q5e2iMp.png)
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Steinmann on December 29, 2020, 10:02:40 pm
free agent
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Ciiges on December 29, 2020, 10:42:03 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/q5e2iMp.png)
quality roast
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: FreyrDS on December 29, 2020, 11:00:22 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/q5e2iMp.png)
Sir I would prefer if this thread remained a beacon of Christianity and goodness so please refrain from using such vulgar insinuations.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Sinjide on December 29, 2020, 11:01:40 pm
yeah fuck erik
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Skittles on December 29, 2020, 11:24:27 pm
free agent

If you're a free agent make sure you put in on the thread with the correct application form please!

p.s love you Stein
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Vegi. on December 29, 2020, 11:25:56 pm
free agent

If you're a free agent make sure you put in on the thread with the correct application form please!

p.s love you Stein
Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/id/Steinmannn/
Nickname: Steinmann
GUID: 128
Nationality: Knäckebröd
Past teams (If any): /
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Shadey on December 29, 2020, 11:34:32 pm
Ya’ll motherfuckers need Jesus
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Rikkert on December 29, 2020, 11:41:57 pm
Free agent:
Ricky
1100222 idk lmao
scotland
im really good at cav
past teams: Snappers when we won that 5v5 ye
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Keita on December 30, 2020, 12:28:39 am
free agent
haha
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Fralla8 on December 30, 2020, 12:33:47 am
free agent
haha
haha
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Lightning. on December 30, 2020, 12:42:42 am
Who are these people?
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Fralla8 on December 30, 2020, 12:43:55 am
Who are these people?
(https://i.imgur.com/0GOkTI5.png)
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Ricky. on December 30, 2020, 12:44:00 am
if you talk to fralla like that I swear to god I will use your dad as a urinal and he will thank me for it
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: FreyrDS on December 30, 2020, 12:44:36 am
Who are these people?
People you haven't bribed yet, hurry up.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Rikkert on December 30, 2020, 12:45:19 am
Imagine talking shit to fred on a drinking night. The guy is already struggling enough to keep up with ricky.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Fralla8 on December 30, 2020, 12:49:41 am
Imagine talking shit to fred on a drinking night. The guy is already struggling enough to keep up with ricky.
You
sir
are talking out of your ass
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Lightning. on December 30, 2020, 12:51:49 am
if you talk to fralla like that I swear to god I will use your dad as a urinal and he will thank me for it
Try me I fear no one in here
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Dokletian on December 30, 2020, 12:52:16 am
if you talk to fralla like that I swear to god I will use your dad as a urinal and he will thank me for it
IGOR is a mediocre album
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: fruitocino on December 30, 2020, 12:54:38 am
if you talk to fralla like that I swear to god I will use your dad as a urinal and he will thank me for it
IGOR is a mediocre album
K.O.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on December 30, 2020, 12:55:12 am
Psssh, infantry people, back to your cages.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Fralla8 on December 30, 2020, 12:55:39 am
Psssh, infantry people, back to your cage.
O
K
tedRAT
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Ricky. on December 30, 2020, 12:56:08 am
if you talk to fralla like that I swear to god I will use your dad as a urinal and he will thank me for it
Try me I fear no one in here


if you talk to fralla like that I swear to god I will use your dad as a urinal and he will thank me for it
IGOR is a mediocre album

The pair of yous will hud your weesht before  I ruin your parents relationship
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on December 30, 2020, 12:56:14 am
That's it Fralla, I'm calling Fwuffy.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Rikkert on December 30, 2020, 12:56:20 am
Psssh, infantry people, back to your cages.
(https://media4.giphy.com/media/l0HU5bbgdW6qzJsmQ/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Fralla8 on December 30, 2020, 12:56:55 am
That's it Fralla, I'm calling Fwuffy.
Leave Fwuffy ALONE he has more shit to deal with than having YOU there
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Rikkert on December 30, 2020, 01:04:32 am
No don't amue
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Kore on December 30, 2020, 01:05:56 am
Steam (Captain): Amue
Team Name: Dickers
Team Tag: Dick
Players: Amue- TBA| Rikkert - TBA | Ricky - TBA | Gi - TBA | Fralla - TBA | Mike- TBA  | Kore - TBA
Did you read and accept the rules? Yes

winners right there
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Erik le Rouge on December 30, 2020, 01:10:58 am
(https://i.imgur.com/q5e2iMp.png)

Laughed
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Elsse on December 30, 2020, 02:36:19 am
free agent
haha
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Steinmann on December 30, 2020, 03:18:09 am
Yall mean 2021 will be different...
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Jesu04 on December 30, 2020, 10:14:43 am
Steam (Captain): Jesu (https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198387539734)
Team Name: Monkeys without sticks
Team Tag: Monkey
Players: Jesu - 1663937 | Termito - 1346711 | Darklight - 509154 | Dume - 1631822 | Aitor - 1156041 | Lorucas - 1379001 | Scarta - 1416808
Did you read and accept the rules? Yes
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on December 30, 2020, 11:25:18 am
Important info about rosters: It has come to our attention that the rule was a bit vague when it comes to the regiment some people belong to, especially given the period, with a winter transfer period having just happened after the CL and many people having switched regiments, yet without being given the chance to play much with them.

Essentially, the rule was put in place to avoid what normally happens when a 5v5 is hosted, with most people forming teams with players they are familiar with, aka their regimental mates. The reasoning behind this is to prepare people for the fantasy league (as mentioned earlier on this thread), but with a more comfortable stage where people get to play with new teammates, while still deciding who they get to play with (which won't be a given for everyone in the fantasy league).

As such, we don't want to blindly apply a ruling which makes no sense given certain situations. We encourage people to reach either Skittles or myself, be it teams already formed or teams in the making, and discuss your potential rosters with us. The more transparent you are with us, the easier it will be to find a solution which satisfy both the admin team and the players to a certain extent. Even if you don't end up forming said teams or playing with said people, at least you will know we are fine with it if we gave you our approval beforehand, which makes it easier for everyone in the larger picture.

I won't be super available in the following three/four days so consider reaching Skittles first if you have any inquiries but I will try to check my messages from time to time. We got 10-11 teams signed-up (still trying to figure out if Amue's team is the result of a drunken night on the 15thYR's TS or an actual application ???) so that makes confident we'll reach our goal of 12 signed-up teams by the end of the sign-up period. This also means we'll be ready to increase the number of slots by four, would more teams wish to partake. So keep them team applications coming.

Have a good new year eve,  I will catch you guys in 2021 (my dad jokes are insane, I know).
 
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: LaPierre on December 30, 2020, 01:37:21 pm
Steam (Captain): LaPierre https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198015290096
Team Name: Not Only Polish
Team Tag: NOP_Nickname
Players:
- LaPierre : 1224536
- Atlatan : 1645144
- Killforskill : 1653033
- Ducopie : soon !
- Feezy : 1390877 
- Gabriel : 1472781
- TBA
Did you read and accept the rules? [Yes]/No
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Grozni on December 30, 2020, 04:46:03 pm
Idk if this will make us the 13th team, but here is the signup

Steam (Captain): Apollo https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198086107639/
Team Name: Muffins (actually it is TBA)
Team Tag: TBA
Players: Apollo - 817802 | Parigoniculus - 801349 | Grozni - 510578 | Ilypa - 1704636 | Ironfist - 1471725 | Smylie - 1467774 | Norwegian - 495944
Did you read and accept the rules? Yes
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: QuinnML on December 30, 2020, 07:31:31 pm
I heard BVH70 were strong favourites to win this one

Spoiler
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/776234316558713968/483957297368A501970B65AF1A83EEB21BDF4A55/)
[close]
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Dokletian on December 30, 2020, 11:33:34 pm
Steam (Captain): 4e | Dokletian (https://steamcommunity.com/id/dokiiiiiiiii/)
Team Name: Cereal Killers
Team Tag: CK_Name
Players: Dokletian - 781931 | DE14HANNES - 1217624 | Ciiges - 781925 | Carlos - 292892 | Stannis - 837568 | Andros - 1364268 | Aless - 811638
Did you read and accept the rules? Yes!
name added
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Erik le Rouge on December 30, 2020, 11:41:09 pm
Steam (Captains): 4e | Erik (https://steamcommunity.com/id/ErikleRouge) & 8th | Sully (https://steamcommunity.com/id/8thcage/)

Team Name : Average Joe's

Team Tags : AJ_Name

Players :

Erik - 63517
Cage - 844294
Tomas - 660390
Killa - 302989
Enderby - 497587
TBA -
TBA -

Did you read and accept the rules ? Yes
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Thyrell on December 30, 2020, 11:55:28 pm
when are 4e and 8th merging?
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Dokletian on December 31, 2020, 12:14:16 am
when are 4e and 8th merging?
I wish
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Cage on December 31, 2020, 01:15:58 am
Average Joes vs Purple Cobras final incoming
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Erik le Rouge on December 31, 2020, 01:23:18 am
Average Joes vs Purple Cobras final incoming

The final if these two teams meet :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pORHztMwLEo
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Shadey on December 31, 2020, 09:16:11 am
Average Joes vs Purple Cobras final incoming
(https://cdn.betterttv.net/emote/5eaa12a074046462f768344b/3x)
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: QuinnML on December 31, 2020, 04:13:54 pm
Spoiler
(https://i.ibb.co/tBMPhPQ/Opera-Snapshot-2020-12-31-151233-www-fsegames-eu.png)
[close]

Spoiler
https://youtu.be/6G7HYqjBxgg
[close]

Spoiler
BVH70 still with the cutest signup, fight me
[close]
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Erik le Rouge on December 31, 2020, 07:19:46 pm
Spoiler
(https://i.ibb.co/tBMPhPQ/Opera-Snapshot-2020-12-31-151233-www-fsegames-eu.png)
[close]

Spoiler
https://youtu.be/6G7HYqjBxgg
[close]

Spoiler
BVH70 still with the cutest signup, fight me
[close]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDqRCrg6634
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Enderby on January 01, 2021, 11:25:17 am
Nice tournament 8), If we don't win, I would say fuck Erik. :-X
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: QuinnML on January 01, 2021, 05:02:06 pm
Erik on his way to cooltext.com to get some headers for his team application

(https://cdn.drawception.com/drawings/756240/JCjKYPygWS.png)
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Charles la Valette on January 01, 2021, 08:23:47 pm
i love erik
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: USE5life on January 02, 2021, 03:55:44 am
Steam (Captain): USE4life https://steamcommunity.com/id/USE4life/
Team Name: Jorvik Viking Centre
Team Tag: Jrvk
Players:
USE4life 62810
Bladeson 63203
Nozza 60535
Shagon 492854
Bluck 1478606

Did you read and accept the rules? Yes!
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Skittles on January 02, 2021, 03:59:14 am
Steam (Captain): USE4life https://steamcommunity.com/id/USE4life/
Team Name: Jorvik Viking Centre
Team Tag: Jrvk Players:
USE4life
Bladeson
Nozza
TBA
TBA

Did you read and accept the rules? No

Please read the rules and accept otherwise we cannot approve this application!
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Erik le Rouge on January 02, 2021, 04:26:20 am
Erik on his way to cooltext.com to get some headers for his team application

(https://cdn.drawception.com/drawings/756240/JCjKYPygWS.png)

I'm just trying to sign-up damn it

(https://i.gyazo.com/f8e9ac7da202c700c20a2370c3e7defa.png)
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: charle_Lebrun on January 02, 2021, 02:30:26 pm
Steam (Captain): https://steamcommunity.com/id/1832685WP01/
Team Name: JME
Team Tag: JME_
Players:
PONPON4
LEBRUN 1832685
Ozikan 1389381
Neena
Belgian Fury
Bouboune 519040

Did you read and accept the rules? Yes
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: USE5life on January 03, 2021, 01:08:20 am
Steam (Captain): USE4life https://steamcommunity.com/id/USE4life/
Team Name: Jorvik Viking Centre
Team Tag: Jrvk Players:
USE4life
Bladeson
Nozza
Shagon
TBA

Did you read and accept the rules? Yes!

Updated! Up the Nederlander
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Coco. on January 03, 2021, 04:04:36 pm
Team Name: Animals
Team Tag: Animals name_Name
Team Captain(s): https://steamcommunity.com/id/Coco_AyalaNW/
Roster:
Lightning   463907
Felix         1152541
Ouranos    665180
Bocom      1100085
Stefan      1607471
Michnicki  1221210
TBA   TBA
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: FreyrDS on January 04, 2021, 09:39:00 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/DUsezZA.png?1)

(https://i.imgur.com/HAWL0PN.png)



Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: SirNelsonGOE on January 04, 2021, 10:11:01 pm
GL to everyone, sadly is study time for me, spanish ppl will win for sure #TeamJesu
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on January 04, 2021, 10:56:22 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/DUsezZA.png?1)

(https://i.imgur.com/HAWL0PN.png)
Don't fight it, embrace it.

(I will edit it later dw  :-[)
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Erik le Rouge on January 04, 2021, 11:00:30 pm
#TeamJesu

- some hebrews in judaea, 30 AD

Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Rastignac on January 05, 2021, 04:35:56 pm
OwO what's This?

Someone add me to your team, I'm only tier 3 but I have a good heart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSjcLmS9v7o
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: retamar2 on January 05, 2021, 04:54:31 pm
Steam (Captain): https://steamcommunity.com/id/1832685WP01/
Team Name: JME
Team Tag: JME_
Players:
PONPON4
LEBRUN 1832685
Ozikan 1389381
Neena
Belgian Fury
Bouboune 519040

Did you read and accept the rules? Yes

BouBoune le carry
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Aless on January 05, 2021, 05:29:41 pm
OwO what's This?

Someone add me to your team, I'm only tier 3 but I have a good heart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSjcLmS9v7o

Rasti coming back is season 6
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: stevve on January 05, 2021, 05:31:58 pm
OwO what's This?

Someone add me to your team, I'm only tier 3 but I have a good heart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSjcLmS9v7o
Spoiler
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/b9d07096d757654e91bf4a2ecb3510eb/tenor.gif?itemid=15264553)
[close]
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on January 05, 2021, 09:19:58 pm
OP has been updated with the teams' information.

The following teams: Cereals, Hot Wheels Equation, Purple Cobras, Bad Vibe Hussars, HOMOSEXUALS, Not Only Polish, Average Joe's, Animals & JME*, have all provided the administration with a roster of at least 5 people with their respective GUIDS and are, therefore accepted in the Fighting Pit. Your captain(s) will be invited in a steam chat soon to receive further information about the tournament process and are expected to voice their opinions on certain aspects of the tournament format & schedule. Would your roster change that you are expected to notify us the soonest possible.

The following teams: wookies^wb, Jesu's team, Muffins & Jorvik Viking Centre, have been added to the tournament's rosters but with their application still pending due to either an incomplete roster or the lack of GUIDS. Please make sure to update your roster before the deadline. You still got plenty of time but the sooner, the better.



After having asked around, it appears nobody got a proper cavalry tournament maps for 5V5 that we could use. By tournament map, I mean a map where you have four different arenas and can have multiple matches happening at the same time. We have therefore no choice but to make our own (all credits for that go to Skittles as he is the one working on it) but we count on your indulgence as we won't have as much time as we would like to test it properly. If you know someone who got such map and is willing to share it, we would gladly appreciate having a back-up option so don't hesitate to reach us out.

There are still theoretically three spots that are up for grabs so don't hesitate to make a team. Also if Rasti doesn't find a home soon, I WILL cancel the tournament.  >:(

*As the last team that signed-up, JME won't be added on the OP for now, unless a team drops out, but they are still fully accepted and their captain will be invited to the steam group just like any other team.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Lightning. on January 05, 2021, 10:11:46 pm
We take Rasti
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on January 05, 2021, 10:44:16 pm
We take Rasti
Lightning out there doing God's work
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Lightning. on January 05, 2021, 11:11:16 pm
We take Rasti
Lightning out there doing God's work
The devils work rather
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: USE5life on January 06, 2021, 12:54:55 am
OP has been updated with the teams' information.

The following teams: wookies^wb, Jesu's team, Muffins & Jorvik Viking Centre, have been added to the tournament's rosters but with their application still pending due to either an incomplete roster or the lack of GUIDS. Please make sure to update your roster before the deadline. You still got plenty of time but the sooner, the better.


Why what's wrong with ours? 5 players all with GUIDs
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Remao on January 06, 2021, 12:58:58 am
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Rule breaking spotted
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Shadey on January 06, 2021, 01:04:02 am
(https://i.gyazo.com/812d94b3106dc29ed8e88b21f5de4173.png)

Rule breaking spotted
He controls the keyboard, i control the mouse.

This is okay i think?
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Remao on January 06, 2021, 01:10:21 am
(https://i.gyazo.com/812d94b3106dc29ed8e88b21f5de4173.png)

Rule breaking spotted
He controls the keyboard, i control the mouse.

This is okay i think?

Oh I thought one spot on screen and the other takes your controller :o
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: QuinnML on January 06, 2021, 01:24:35 am
(https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) Quinn 8036

Wrong flag ! Please fix !

(https://i.imgur.com/ubuOWns.png)
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: charle_Lebrun on January 06, 2021, 01:23:40 pm
Steam (Captain): https://steamcommunity.com/id/1832685WP01/
Team Name: JME
Team Tag: JME_
Players: (7/7)
PONPON4 1683173
LEBRUN 1832685
Ozikan 1389381
Neena 1701317
Belgian Fury 1641348
Bouboune 519040
Retamar 879291
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Law on January 06, 2021, 02:36:59 pm
(https://i.gyazo.com/812d94b3106dc29ed8e88b21f5de4173.png)

Rule breaking spotted
He controls the keyboard, i control the mouse.

This is okay i think?

Oh I thought one spot on screen and the other takes your controller :o



together we are better
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Jesu04 on January 06, 2021, 02:59:02 pm
Steam (Captain): Jesu (https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198387539734)
Team Name: Monkeys without sticks
Team Tag: Monkey
Players: Jesu - 1663937 | Termito - 1346711 | Darklight - 509154 | Dume - 1631822 | Aitor - 1156041 | Lorucas - 1379001 | Scarta - 1416808
Did you read and accept the rules? Yes
Updated
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Dokletian on January 06, 2021, 03:42:14 pm
Team Name: Monkeys without sticks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21DDcUSdteI
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Cage on January 06, 2021, 03:52:32 pm
add 🌸♡ RaStIgNaC ♡🌸 (1213265) to the Average joe's roster  8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOga3VZ5CGY
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Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: LaPierre on January 06, 2021, 08:28:48 pm
I add the GUID of Ducopie in my team : 1738546
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Skittles on January 06, 2021, 09:00:37 pm
(https://i.gyazo.com/812d94b3106dc29ed8e88b21f5de4173.png)

Rule breaking spotted

God stop getting us for rule breaking :(

PS - fixed this now.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: QuinnML on January 07, 2021, 09:57:51 am
Too many inexperienced newgens with big ass GUIDs, hopefully still time for some good players to sign up !

Spoiler
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Spoiler
(https://i.imgflip.com/4c2011.png)
[close]
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: charle_Lebrun on January 08, 2021, 10:24:38 am
Steam (Captain): https://steamcommunity.com/id/1832685WP01/
Team Name: JME
Team Tag: JME_
Players: (7/7)
PONPON4 1683173
LEBRUN 1832685
Ozikan 1389381
Neena 1701317
Belgian Fury 1641348
Bouboune 519040
Retamar 879291

roster complete
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: LaSalle on January 08, 2021, 08:19:53 pm
Steam (Captain): LaSalle
Team Name: HOMOSEXUALS
Team Tag: HOMO*S
Players:
LaSalle - 428325
Leensab - 1476538
Draco - 1534396
Domi - 2101026
Tengou - 499474
Yuki - 60298
TBA - GUID
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Smylie on January 09, 2021, 11:56:06 am
Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/id/SmylieNW
Nickname: Smylie
GUID: 1467774
Nationality: Irish
Past teams (If any): Inf stuff but played in dragon kings 5v5.


Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Dokletian on January 09, 2021, 02:14:00 pm
Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/id/SmylieNW
Nickname: Smylie
GUID: 1467774
Nationality: Irish
Past teams (If any): Inf stuff but played in dragon kings 5v5.
best cav newcomer of 2021

you read it here first
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Smylie on January 09, 2021, 03:19:17 pm
Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/id/SmylieNW
Nickname: Smylie
GUID: 1467774
Nationality: Irish
Past teams (If any): Inf stuff but played in dragon kings 5v5.
best cav newcomer of 2021

you read it here first

This won’t look good when I get a 0.05 KD in the tournament :)
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Dusbled on January 09, 2021, 03:23:11 pm
Past teams (If any): Inf stuff but played in dragon kings 5v5.

wait you were in Kamikaze Hussars with Cr3a and me!!!!
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Smylie on January 09, 2021, 03:31:07 pm
Past teams (If any): Inf stuff but played in dragon kings 5v5.

wait you were in Kamikaze Hussars with Cr3a and me!!!!
Ye I was just I didn’t say the name coz I would’ve been surprised if people knew the name haha and ye don’t forget barro, nightwing, dren, ilypa or any of the other inf noobs in the team :)
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Rikkert on January 09, 2021, 03:33:47 pm
Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/id/SmylieNW
Nickname: Smylie
GUID: 1467774
Nationality: Irish
Past teams (If any): Inf stuff but played in dragon kings 5v5.
Liar
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Smylie on January 09, 2021, 03:38:05 pm
Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/id/SmylieNW
Nickname: Smylie
GUID: 1467774
Nationality: Irish
Past teams (If any): Inf stuff but played in dragon kings 5v5.
Liar
(https://i.gyazo.com/2bb6761ebea9b01e3ac25c7035a76641.png)
Hmmm my belgian friend
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Rikkert on January 09, 2021, 03:55:07 pm
Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/id/SmylieNW
Nickname: Smylie
GUID: 1467774
Nationality: Irish
Past teams (If any): Inf stuff but played in dragon kings 5v5.
Liar
(https://i.gyazo.com/2bb6761ebea9b01e3ac25c7035a76641.png)
Hmmm my belgian friend
yes among your fellow "Irishmen" *SPIT*
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: LaPierre on January 09, 2021, 04:46:49 pm
New player in "Not Only Polish" team :

Titus - 2107782
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Grozni on January 09, 2021, 04:47:49 pm
Idk if this will make us the 13th team, but here is the signup

Steam (Captain): Apollo https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198086107639/
Team Name: Muffins (actually it is TBA)
Team Tag: TBA
Players: Apollo - 817802 | Parigoniculus - 801349 | Grozni - 510578 | Ilypa - 1704636 | Ironfist - 1471725 | Smylie - 1467774 | TBA
Did you read and accept the rules? Yes

Updated, though we are waiting for a certain mr grumpy to appear online and send his player ID, but this is pretty much it for now.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Coco. on January 10, 2021, 12:26:44 pm
Team Name: Animals
Team Tag: Animals name_Name
Team Captain(s): https://steamcommunity.com/id/Coco_AyalaNW/
Roster:
Coco_Ayala 1462072
Lightning   463907
Felix         1152541
Ouranos    665180
Bocom      1100085
Stefan      1607471
Michnicki  1221210

Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on January 10, 2021, 11:50:08 pm
OP should be up to date with the latest information. The steam group has been created, and most of the captains should receive an invitation shortly.

I still need @Lindblom to provide me with at least 3 more GUIDs for his team & clarify something with Not Only Polish about their roster but other than that, everyone's looking good and clear for Friday.

We have started working on the map and Skittles made amazing progress on it so I am confident we'll be able to go ahead with the tournament as planned. You can always edit your roster throughout the week but please do remember that the deadline is Friday 15th of January | 17:00 GMT. We won't accept any more changes after the deadline has been hit so if you have a doubt about one of your player's attendance, make sure to add substitutes or consider replacing him before that.

Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: LaPierre on January 11, 2021, 06:09:01 pm
Feezy - 1390877  leave the team [Not Only Polish]
He leave also the game.

I don't know what is the trouble with the rooster of my team i got player of many regiment:

LaPierre : 6e
Ducopie : 6e
KILLFoRSKILL : 6e
Titus : 2Lr
Gabriel : 10ph
Atlatan : 10ph
(and maybe one more of 10ph at the place of Feezy
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: LaSalle on January 12, 2021, 07:41:00 pm
Steam (Captain): LaSalle
Team Name: HOMOSEXUALS
Team Tag: HOMO*S
Players:
LaSalle - 428325
Leensab - 1476538
Draco - 1534396
Domi - 2101026
Tengou - 499474
Yuki - 60298
Waxo - 1641770
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Lorucas on January 12, 2021, 10:02:16 pm
change the ground color.. im not racist but too many blacky blacky :P
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: LaPierre on January 12, 2021, 10:05:56 pm
New player at the place of feezy [Not Only Polish]

Quack - 1547904
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Skittles on January 12, 2021, 10:16:05 pm
change the ground color.. im not racist but too many blacky blacky :P

Yes okay we get it, God, BLM!

No for real though - the map test was primarily to make sure that it could work with the group sizes etc.  Glad it did!  Will get onto the ground change/very slight adaptation ASAP.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Smylie on January 13, 2021, 10:53:46 am
can i please have the irish flag tardet :)
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: USE5life on January 15, 2021, 05:54:12 pm
Steam (Captain): USE4life https://steamcommunity.com/id/USE4life/
Team Name: Jorvik Viking Centre
Team Tag: Jrvk
Players:
USE4life 62810
Bladeson 63203
Nozza 60535
Shagon 492854
Bluck 1478606

Did you read and accept the rules? Yes!

Last minute update (love the drama)

Name: Saiko  GUID: 344916
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Skittles on January 15, 2021, 07:06:03 pm
Steam (Captain): USE4life https://steamcommunity.com/id/USE4life/
Team Name: Jorvik Viking Centre
Team Tag: Jrvk
Players:
USE4life 62810
Bladeson 63203
Nozza 60535
Shagon 492854
Bluck 1478606

Did you read and accept the rules? Yes!

Last minute update (love the drama)

Name: Saiko  GUID: 344916

I can't stand you
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Skittles on January 15, 2021, 07:46:38 pm
(https://i.gyazo.com/7eba279187fead62b8427ba6eb637ec6.png)

As rumoured I am still interested in hosting a Cavalry Fantasy League!  I would like to know numbers of people interested to get the ball rolling.  I have a lot of the planning set up in the background if people are wanting to partake.  I'll be putting up a thread within the upcoming weeks for a sign-up sheet.  Afterwards i'll make the decision if it will run.  I hope we have a high turnout.
 Make sure to be paying attention!


If there are any questions: send them to me on Steam don't send them on here!
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Ozikan on January 15, 2021, 08:21:10 pm
Steam (Captain): https://steamcommunity.com/id/1832685WP01/
Team Name: IME
Team Tag: IME_
Players: (7/7)
PONPON4 1683173
LEBRUN 1832685
Ozikan 1389381
Neena 1701317
Belgian Fury 1641348
Retamar 879291
Ace 422061

Last minute change in replacement of a player who will not be there cordially
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on January 15, 2021, 08:54:23 pm
Last updates done, tournament is about to start.

Quote
Assemble, hussars! From deep down the sewers of the arena, you hear the roarings of the crowd waiting for blood. You and your mount both shaking, you get mentally reading for what's to come: The glory of the Pit, a fight to the death. You have been training hard for this and are eager to prove your worth to the community. But you ain't standing alone. Your crew is there with you, united in combats, willing to give their best on your side. Will the Pit crowns its first cavalry champions in your person? Or will you fall on the dust of the fighting ground, like many before you. From now on, you write your own legend. From now on, you enter the Fighting Pit!

Good luck everyone!
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Soartex on January 16, 2021, 12:35:44 am
Gg to everyone we fought in the tournament, was a very fun event that we enjoyed a lot on our side.

Thanks to Tardet and Skittles for hosting this.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Dokletian on January 16, 2021, 12:35:58 am
GG fun tournament!

very unsatisfying ending for us though - gg wp frenchies
(https://preview.redd.it/nvkskzjctr361.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=d03baf6a41ae019a7fce25e6ab408b79fdcfce10)
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Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: OuRaNos on January 16, 2021, 12:36:27 am
ez
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Shadey on January 16, 2021, 12:37:15 am
GG fun tournament!
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Erik le Rouge on January 16, 2021, 12:38:29 am
treiz winning tournaments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDqRCrg6634
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Treiz35 on January 16, 2021, 12:41:20 am
GG fun tournament!

very unsatisfying ending for us though - gg wp frenchies
(https://preview.redd.it/nvkskzjctr361.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=d03baf6a41ae019a7fce25e6ab408b79fdcfce10)
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Dont forget Tim !!


GG wp to all the teams was a fun & nice tournament thanks for hosting it Tardet (still rigged a round with despawning a horse) and Skittles !!
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Lightning. on January 16, 2021, 12:42:18 am
ggs to everyone we played and to the winners HWE (atleast we lost to the later winners  :'().

I liked the execution of this tournament and felt like it was a nice change. I know 3 hours a re a long time for some and it mightve gave some problems in their performance but I appreciate not playing an 5v5 tournament for a whole month.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: MaxenceIV on January 16, 2021, 12:47:05 am
GG guys ! Very nice tournament !

Spoiler
Legends say if Dokletian win a tournament he dies
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Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament | 1st. HWE / 2nd. CR / 3rd. PC
Post by: Tardet on January 16, 2021, 12:54:52 am
The tournament is now over! Overall it felt like a good experience from our perspective, with very few hiccups and some intense fights. But before delving further into how things went, let's congratulate our winners first!

(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1761438190592501035/107B8F5D2F3E5DFA48BB17C4410028F508A90368/)
Winners from HWE & friends.


1 - Hot Wheels Equitation
Treiz - Bedoyère - Soartex - Maxence - Harbinger


2 - Cereals Killers
Dokletian - Hannes - Andros - Carlos - Ciiges - Aless - Stannis


3 - Purple Cobras
JellyKing - Skittles - Shade - Giorno - Txm - Octonidas - Law

The edition was a test in many aspects. First, because it was locked on one-class only but also because we didn't have a 5v5 on one evening in a while. The special ruleset for rosters also added a different flavour for the tournaments, as it is expected many of the teams we saw attending the Fighting Pit tonight wouldn't have existed if that rule hadn't been enforced. We hope that gave some players the chance to try themselves a different competitive environment and that this tournament acted as a nice bridge between regimental events and the upcoming Fantasy League hosted by Skittles.

The duration of the tournament was one of our fears/concerns but we are happy how things unfolded. Most teams were done at 10:00GMT which was the goal we set for ourselves. Eventually, for the 4 remaining teams, the tournament was a tad longer (we finished at 11:30GMT due to a really long semi-final) but for these kinds of one-night tournaments, the best players have to expect that sort of commitment. Starting half an hour before could also help not finishing past midnight for Europeans so it's worth being considered.

Very happy about the quality of the servers overall which we owe a big thanks to Lindblom, as per usual for his amazing free services. A big thanks to Lightning as well who always stayed in touch with us to make sure we were not missing on anything server wise. Skittles, on top of making the map on his own, entirely from scratch, handled all that aspect, therefore, every credit goes to him. Organisation wise, despite a slight confusion we had once we were to switch servers for the quarter-finals, the rest of the tournament felt rather smooth.

Can't thank Skittles himself long enough for his help. Without him, the Fighting Pit would have never been a thing and I am glad I was finally able to come around and host a one-night event for the cavalry community thanks to him. A big thanks to all our referees tonight which helped tremendously, on top of my head; Thorny, Shagon, Lightning, Dokle, Maxence, Cage, etc...

I will say that much, a lot of fights were really one-sided and might have taken away a bit of excitement overall which we fully understand but as we mentioned several times, this tournament main's objective was to give material for the seedings/pricings of the Fantasy League. I would very much like to host another edition in the future, but this time let people make their teams like they so wish. I would like to give a proper round of applause to Not Only Polish who managed to take away four rounds to our champions in the quarter-final, which is no small achievement when looking at the semi-final & grand-final result. Clearly not something I expected but which also highlights how some players which are not the best rated can do some proper damages in these kinds of competitions, against some of the toughest opposition there is.

With that being said, thanks a lot everyone for attending, we hope you enjoyed yourselves and encourage all of you to share a large interest for the fantasy league whenever the applications open. The event should be an absolute banger so don't miss out on some proper fun.

Take care,

Skittles & Tardet
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Dokletian on January 16, 2021, 12:56:48 am
(https://i.redd.it/wdvxear049f51.jpg)
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on January 16, 2021, 01:07:40 am
Also the brackets links: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J0QKf1pO0YEU6CsPZp2WCqG6YZlYmzEFwnwlR7mtJQc/edit?usp=sharing


(https://i.gyazo.com/7b3905e2e6ca9f77ad806cbb492488d1.png)
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: King Stannis Baratheon on January 16, 2021, 05:22:15 am
Thanks for the tournament i enjoyed it all the way to our cursed final   :-[  8)

The only criticism i have is of the later start time. Even an hour earlier would've helped a little for those who got further into the tournament and have an early start the next day :'(
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: DarkLight on January 16, 2021, 05:23:20 am
Ggs wp, map is not bad but maybe make a bit bigger? seems fine for something like 3v3 but 5v5s it felt a bit short
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Hawriil on January 16, 2021, 08:08:35 am
Thanks for good spending time with hussars on pit. GG and I wait on another edition. And rememba - Not Only Polish !
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Octanidas on January 16, 2021, 10:04:59 am
It was a great tournament, thank you for hosting it! Brackets seemed balanced, the matches didn't took too long and the map was well made, especially with that secret message behind the wall ;). I personally really enjoyed the time with my team and i'm proud they/we made it that far.

I had to leave during the quarter finals but i still played longer than i usually wanted to. This brings me to my criticism which you will probably know - as Stannis already mentioned, the starting time isn't suitable for everyone but if the qualtity of the Event is as good as it was yesterday, then i can live with that and help my team as much as possible. Now i'm looking forward to the Fantasy League and other tournament of this kind! ;D
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Ciiges on January 16, 2021, 02:36:55 pm
Very fun tournament, congrats to the winners (not bedo), congrats to my team for getting second and congrats to the third place PCs.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Thyrell on January 16, 2021, 02:38:56 pm
for our tournamental drama: THIS TOURNAMENT WAS RIGGED
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: DeLaBedoyère on January 16, 2021, 02:40:41 pm
Very fun tournament, congrats to the winners (not bedo), congrats to my team for getting second and congrats to the third place PCs.

:'(
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Grozni on January 16, 2021, 02:41:11 pm
The Muffins would like to thank organizers for hosting a fun and intense experience! The whole thing went smooth as far as we could tell.

Our group stage was brutal since both Wookies and Cereal Killers were excellent teams, but we will take pleasure in having managed to win two rounds against the 2nd best team of the tournament.

The muffins would also like to thank each other:

Apollo - for accepting the responsibility of the captain, and single handedly carrying on a few occasions.
Parigon - for gracing our team with his skill and reputation.
Grozni - he must have done a few useful things as well.
Ilyipa - for encouraging the team in crucial moments.
Smylie - for coming on time to be the fifth muffin, and postponing his suicide until the tourney was over.
Norwegian - for managing to come despite his busy schedule, and improving our overall performance.
Ironfist - for agreeing to be in the team, sadly he couldn't bring his iron fist in time to play.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on January 16, 2021, 02:59:31 pm
Yeah as I said, we are aware the tournament starting time wasn't ideal for everyone but we wanted to make a change for once and leave a Sunday free (considering next one is the 2v2 tournament) hence why we picked Friday. And because we picked Friday, Skittles and I couldn't be there much earlier than just before the tournament started. Would it have started at 19:00 GMT, considering I am home from work at 18:30, it would have left me very little time to eat (cause I can't really do that mid-tournament), prepare the last details and send them to everyone while also facing and dealing with the last-minute issues which always happen in every single competition. It really comes down to a very detailed-preparation which some people don't always acknowledge, however, next tournament of this kind will likely be on Sunday and it should therefore be easier to move the starting time a little before (19:00 or 19:30 GMT).

As for the map, I also understand the concern raised DL. I personally liked the size chosen by Skittles, it's somewhat similar to the map used for the 2Lr/Nr4 tournament but it's worth remembering some people had already complained about it, mostly because it advantaged heavy cavalry from their perspective. Here, I think it encouraged fast-paced engagement and limited excessive delays (which has always been one of the huge downsides of cavalry's competitions) still, I don't think extending it a tad more would prove too difficult and it might make players feel like they have more room to express themselves.

@Grozni

Thanks for the kind words. From my exchange with Apollo, I felt he would still have liked to play a bit more than just two matches (which I understand is a bit short). It's not always easy to find a compromise for everyone about every aspect of the tournament, especially in one evening, but I will try to think about something for next editions so you guys can really make the best of it. Glad you managed to enjoy yourselves still, was a pleasure to have you in.
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Ilypa on January 16, 2021, 05:27:58 pm
When are people going to write my name right.


And thanks for hosting :)
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Rikkert on January 16, 2021, 05:52:57 pm
When are people going to write my name right.


And thanks for hosting :)
lil pypa
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on January 16, 2021, 08:14:30 pm
I added a poll to get an idea of how regular you would like this to become. Worth noting that I obviously don't mind letting other people organize cavalry groupfighting tournaments, it's just a matter of everyone keeping other people in touch so there can be a turnover among the hosts.

Also in my last post on this thread, I hinted at the next 2v2 being on Sunday but don't get fooled by my stupidity, the tournament still happens just as planned, on Saturday, January the 23rd. I tried ruining things for Bedo again but Soartex caught me red-handed so I had no choice but to retract my false statement.

 
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Shadey on February 02, 2021, 02:12:39 pm
Video of the bronze match. PC POV

https://youtu.be/F2V8BZdcE4c
Title: Re: The Fighting Pit - 5v5 Tournament
Post by: Tardet on February 02, 2021, 02:31:31 pm
Thanks a lot Shadey!