I wouldnt even be surprised if Dams and Zarwen had to go to mental hospital now. Both teams were inappropriate in all chat. Crying and spamming 24/7 in all chat like 12 y/o's. But man what am i even expecting
Very much team/reg dependent on how toxic the all-chat is and who they are facing. I've been part of quite a few now and each have been so varying. Reg leaders might consider getting a handle of how their members behave when they realise refs might steer clear of their matches purely because it's them.
I thought referees pretty much ignore all chat. I have been for years. If reg leaders have issues then it gets taken to steam, and should be the main form of discussion in events. But all chat has always been something to filter out. Tbh I ignore it as a reg leader too, so if a member is having a "moment" in chat I tend not to see it (and for which I can only apologise.) Learning to filter out all chat other than for OA / FiC messages is a great skill to learn for referees and admins. Is a shame that you need to do it, but it's nothing new.
The treatment of referees has been something that has been discussed for ages, pretty sure I made a point about refereeing in NWBC years ago now. NWBC is almost impossible to admin efficiently if there is only one referee watching 110/120+ players, it's not like NWL or EIC where you only have 1 class and 2 lines to watch. Therefore people make mistakes / are a bit slow and that's fine.
About the class limit issues, admins should also realise that trying to work out how many people in your group have spawned in takes a little time, and thus balancing isn't always immediate, it's not to do with trolling. Trying to rotate between members so everyone gets a chance to play also takes a bit of time too. A bit of understanding and patience on both ends goes a long way.
People complain about camping sometimes, but should remember old NWBC used to sometimes take at least 15-30 minutes per round before they put in the all-charge rules (hence why only 4 rounds per match originally.) Some things have definitely improved over the years.
Should be said that NWBC is still the best (and really, the only) event of it's type now, by a long way.
Congrats to Iron Crusaders btw, was a good match, and many thanks to the referees for taking the time to admin.
