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Mount & Blade Warband: Napoleonic Wars => Released Modifications => Iron Europe => Topic started by: Ioan Cojocaru on February 18, 2014, 05:07:48 am

Title: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Ioan Cojocaru on February 18, 2014, 05:07:48 am
Are there gonna be anymore factions added like UK Austria Romania Russia The Ottoman empire Belgium Greece Italy etc
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Killington on February 18, 2014, 05:10:03 am
Yes, UK is next, after that I don't think that it's totally decided yet.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: kpetschulat on February 18, 2014, 05:18:30 am
Most likely Austria-Hungary after the UK. It's a hot faction, and so many people want it. It's also got so many possibilities for troops.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Hoffmann on February 18, 2014, 05:20:15 am
I say we wait till the mod is properly optimized before we start working on these new nations.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: kpetschulat on February 18, 2014, 05:29:27 am
My thoughts exactly. Tonight, the Nr.4 went to an event, was only 100 man event, but the mid-end game lag was unbearable. Sources of this lag need to be found, but I think the mod is generally too taxing on server memory with all the explosions, grenades, MG's, special features, it's hard for these servers to handle it en masse.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Colonel Howe on February 18, 2014, 06:55:22 am
After the UK, i think Russia should be added.

Imagine thousands of poorly armed Russian plebs rushing one german machine gun xD
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Prince_Eugen on February 18, 2014, 08:17:46 am
After the UK, i think Russia should be added.

Imagine thousands of poorly armed Russian plebs rushing one german machine gun xD
Doing this way, somehow they destroyed Austrian army for almost one year of battles xD
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Landrik on February 18, 2014, 08:39:09 am
I think if Grenades could dissapear after being thrown and exploding it'd help out a bit.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Siberian Cossack on February 18, 2014, 11:04:31 am
i very hope next faction after UK will be Russian Empire. Russian Empire takes a big part in this World war and devs must remember this
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Captain America on February 18, 2014, 12:29:42 pm
The only issue I have with the Austrians being added first is that they almost entirely fought the Russians, so either do both at the same time in a special Eastern Front update or bring in the Russians first because they fought the Hun too
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Sir_Spill on February 18, 2014, 12:31:51 pm
the Canadians
and make a Indian unit!!! the Gurkha's that's all what i miss for me
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Friedrich on February 18, 2014, 12:43:50 pm
The only issue I have with the Austrians being added first is that they almost entirely fought the Russians, [...]
Nope. Italy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_the_Isonzo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_the_Isonzo)

Really unfair to the Italians: nobody remembers they took part in WW1 as well. :(
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Captain America on February 18, 2014, 01:25:19 pm
Awww, and I love the Italians, how could I forget em? That being said, the point still remains somewhat, I sadly doubt they're going to add the Italians, no matter how cool the Arditi are
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Gizmo on February 18, 2014, 01:55:58 pm
Austria-Hungary must be added, otherwise there will be only allied factions. Moreover, the K.u.K Armee has an immense diversity amongst its ranks. Russia would be fun to play as well.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Gokiller on February 18, 2014, 01:57:24 pm
Ottomans plox.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Gizmo on February 18, 2014, 02:04:41 pm
Ottomans plox.
Oh yeah, I forgot the kebabs! They would be fun as well.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Friedrich on February 18, 2014, 03:30:16 pm
Awww, and I love the Italians, how could I forget em? That being said, the point still remains somewhat, I sadly doubt they're going to add the Italians, no matter how cool the Arditi are
I don't think so. Problem of eastern front is we don't have really trench war over there, but in north italian theatre we have. Would be hard to balance units for open warfare of the eastern theatre.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: ThatRussian on February 18, 2014, 03:37:12 pm
Pretty sure they mentioned adding in UK, Austria/Hungary, Russia, and possibly Italy.  I could be mistaken though.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Prince_Eugen on February 18, 2014, 03:54:57 pm
Awww, and I love the Italians, how could I forget em? That being said, the point still remains somewhat, I sadly doubt they're going to add the Italians, no matter how cool the Arditi are
I don't think so. Problem of eastern front is we don't have really trench war over there, but in north italian theatre we have. Would be hard to balance units for open warfare of the eastern theatre.
Actually, on some stages of war, there was trench warfare, for example, the Brusilov offensive was part of trench war, however, true there were a lot of mobile warfare. And i dont think balancing would be hard, every country had artillery, cavalry, the only matter is the difference in tactics, but it mostly the personal thing of every regiment.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: SeanBeansShako on February 18, 2014, 06:33:47 pm
Considering you can only get the most basic trenches working in both art and design with map making it might not be worth moderating what you can and cannot do around them for the future of the game.

Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: -~Carson~- on February 18, 2014, 09:20:47 pm
I want U.K.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Willhelm on February 18, 2014, 10:10:29 pm
UK next. I must be the only person who also wants Americans with BARs and Springfields. Yes i know they're out of the mods setting.

Russia would probably be the most suitable though.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Humlenerd on February 18, 2014, 10:41:41 pm
Osmanlı İmparatorluğu? Osmanlı İmparatorluğu? Osmanlı İmparatorluğu? Osmanlı İmparatorluğu!
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Ioan Cojocaru on February 18, 2014, 10:51:56 pm
I hope they add Romania  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania_during_World_War_I
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Gizmo on February 18, 2014, 11:30:47 pm
I hope they add Romania  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania_during_World_War_I
Our new Agovic. This time, this one is for Romania.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Ioan Cojocaru on February 18, 2014, 11:50:10 pm
I hope they add Romania  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania_during_World_War_I
Our new Agovic. This time, this one is for Romania.

What?
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: KillerMongoose on February 19, 2014, 03:32:57 am
If Russia was added but not Belgium I would personally find the nearest brick and beat a random homeless guy with it. Russia quit halfway through the war because of the Bolshevik revolution - but the country who gave the allies an advantage in the war and fought from start to finish gets nothing? That wouldn't make sense.

While personally I would want Belgium in the game, I'm 99% sure that after they add the UK they'll add Austria so that it represents both sides equally - that being said, if they add a 5th faction, it should be Belgium >.>
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Landrik on February 19, 2014, 04:16:23 am
For the sake of random homeless males out there, put the brick down. How about adding in Belgium as a class within France or UK?

I'm all for the Eastern Front factions to be added in. Namely Austria-Hungary and Russia.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: KillerMongoose on February 19, 2014, 05:37:06 am
While my body tells me Belgium deserves its own faction given its intense struggle (the struggle is real yo) my mind tells me that I shouldn't be so picky and that a Belgian class would be perfectly fine. Hell they could add the Belgian Expeditionary Corps, a Belgian armored car unit that fought on the Eastern Front. It consisted of 444 men, 16 were killed in action - not sure on the wounded (or if any were killed "out of action" ie- from disease or something). They fought with distinction in Galicia and were mentioned in the "Order of the Day" 5 times.

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Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Preston on February 19, 2014, 06:57:36 am
I think they are doing UK next, United States will come too
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: KillerMongoose on February 19, 2014, 07:37:20 am
Not the United States. No. I'm American and even I know that's a terrible idea. They wouldn't do such a thing.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: asagek on February 19, 2014, 07:54:47 am
I think they are doing UK next, United States will come too
I dont think they will add America because it is 1916 america did not join untill 1917 they could add like an american unit to france there where quite some americans in french service but it would just be an american carrying french arms
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: asagek on February 19, 2014, 08:03:46 am
If Russia was added but not Belgium I would personally find the nearest brick and beat a random homeless guy with it. Russia quit halfway through the war because of the Bolshevik revolution - but the country who gave the allies an advantage in the war and fought from start to finish gets nothing? That wouldn't make sense.

While personally I would want Belgium in the game, I'm 99% sure that after they add the UK they'll add Austria so that it represents both sides equally - that being said, if they add a 5th faction, it should be Belgium >.>
The whole of Belgium approves this message
+12000000 XD
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Ioan Cojocaru on February 19, 2014, 08:24:53 am
Vive Le Roumanie and Vive Le Belgique (Belgium)
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: asagek on February 19, 2014, 08:32:30 am
Vive Le Roumanie and Vive Le Belgique (Belgium)
Huzzaahhh!!
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Derpingtonpryce on February 19, 2014, 11:24:09 am
The only issue with adding Austria-Hungary and not Russia is that who the hell are the Austrians going to fight? I'm Belgian myself and I love the idea of having a Belgian faction but I for the sake of historical accuracy they should go with Russia.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: asagek on February 19, 2014, 12:11:06 pm
The only issue with adding Austria-Hungary and not Russia is that who the hell are the Austrians going to fight? I'm Belgian myself and I love the idea of having a Belgian faction but I for the sake of historical accuracy they should go with Russia.
Well they can make as much faction as they want they can add like every faction that fought in WW1 but yea that be alot of work
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Nardu on February 19, 2014, 12:34:37 pm
If Russia was added but not Belgium I would personally find the nearest brick and beat a random homeless guy with it. Russia quit halfway through the war because of the Bolshevik revolution - but the country who gave the allies an advantage in the war and fought from start to finish gets nothing? That wouldn't make sense.

While personally I would want Belgium in the game, I'm 99% sure that after they add the UK they'll add Austria so that it represents both sides equally - that being said, if they add a 5th faction, it should be Belgium >.>

 There's no clue that Belgium must have a Nation in this mod and not Russia  if you go on this way. because without millions of russians mobilizing millions of Austro Germans to face them, that's not the 110 000 belgian soldiers which could have saved us. IF we were not totaly outnumbered and spanked in 1914 it's because of the russians.

+ you forget to remember that, alot of Russian offensives like Brussilov were made by the non stop pressure and asking for of the French and British commanders to help us in great battles, like Verdun, to depressurize our front.

 About the advantage you gave, Serbia gaves a greater advantage and defeated in outnumber and without many artillery and ammunitions the austrian army, starting to invade them on their own territory and forcing two times the Austrians to retreat totaly from Serbia.  That forced germans to send many men to help Austrians in 1915. With they couldn't have a nation plot too so?



Only thing to make everybody happy will be to keep the last two plots for multi nations, like "Eastern Entente" with Serbian, romanian, italian (even if its not an eastern country), russian troops. And eastern Triplice with Ottomans and Bulgarians and Austria Hungary. I know this is not the best way to have a full nation units but it's the only way to make most of the people alright with that i think.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: asagek on February 19, 2014, 01:54:35 pm
If Russia was added but not Belgium I would personally find the nearest brick and beat a random homeless guy with it. Russia quit halfway through the war because of the Bolshevik revolution - but the country who gave the allies an advantage in the war and fought from start to finish gets nothing? That wouldn't make sense.

While personally I would want Belgium in the game, I'm 99% sure that after they add the UK they'll add Austria so that it represents both sides equally - that being said, if they add a 5th faction, it should be Belgium >.>

 There's no clue that Belgium must have a Nation in this mod and not Russia  if you go on this way. because without millions of russians mobilizing millions of Austro Germans to face them, that's not the 110 000 belgian soldiers which could have saved us. IF we were not totaly outnumbered and spanked in 1914 it's because of the russians.

+ you forget to remember that, alot of Russian offensives like Brussilov were made by the non stop pressure and asking for of the French and British commanders to help us in great battles, like Verdun, to depressurize our front.

 About the advantage you gave, Serbia gaves a greater advantage and defeated in outnumber and without many artillery and ammunitions the austrian army, starting to invade them on their own territory and forcing two times the Austrians to retreat totaly from Serbia.  That forced germans to send many men to help Austrians in 1915. With they couldn't have a nation plot too so?



Only thing to make everybody happy will be to keep the last two plots for multi nations, like "Eastern Entente" with Serbian, romanian, italian (even if its not an eastern country), russian troops. And eastern Triplice with Ottomans and Bulgarians and Austria Hungary. I know this is not the best way to have a full nation units but it's the only way to make most of the people alright with that i think.
Wait you saying should have stopped the whole German army with 110000 soldiers?!
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Killington on February 19, 2014, 01:57:20 pm
United States will come too
Unless it's just as a single unit for UK (like KGL in NW) it's pretty unlikely that the US will be making an appearance in the mod.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: kpetschulat on February 19, 2014, 02:17:21 pm
The only issue with adding Austria-Hungary and not Russia is that who the hell are the Austrians going to fight? I'm Belgian myself and I love the idea of having a Belgian faction but I for the sake of historical accuracy they should go with Russia.

Are you silly? The Austrians fought the Russians until 1917, and fought the Italians the entire war int he Alps/Northern Italy. Forget about Russia, because that warfare was entirely mobile. This mod should focus on the Western theater of 1916: Third French Republic, German Empire, British Commonwealth, Austria-Hungary, Italy. The Austrians also contributed to the Germans some divisions of troops, so they fought the French as well. British and French in France vs. Germans. France and Italy vs. Austrians in the Alps and Italy...
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Nardu on February 19, 2014, 02:19:42 pm
If Russia was added but not Belgium I would personally find the nearest brick and beat a random homeless guy with it. Russia quit halfway through the war because of the Bolshevik revolution - but the country who gave the allies an advantage in the war and fought from start to finish gets nothing? That wouldn't make sense.

While personally I would want Belgium in the game, I'm 99% sure that after they add the UK they'll add Austria so that it represents both sides equally - that being said, if they add a 5th faction, it should be Belgium >.>

 There's no clue that Belgium must have a Nation in this mod and not Russia  if you go on this way. because without millions of russians mobilizing millions of Austro Germans to face them, that's not the 110 000 belgian soldiers which could have saved us. IF we were not totaly outnumbered and spanked in 1914 it's because of the russians.

+ you forget to remember that, alot of Russian offensives like Brussilov were made by the non stop pressure and asking for of the French and British commanders to help us in great battles, like Verdun, to depressurize our front.

 About the advantage you gave, Serbia gaves a greater advantage and defeated in outnumber and without many artillery and ammunitions the austrian army, starting to invade them on their own territory and forcing two times the Austrians to retreat totaly from Serbia.  That forced germans to send many men to help Austrians in 1915. With they couldn't have a nation plot too so?



Only thing to make everybody happy will be to keep the last two plots for multi nations, like "Eastern Entente" with Serbian, romanian, italian (even if its not an eastern country), russian troops. And eastern Triplice with Ottomans and Bulgarians and Austria Hungary. I know this is not the best way to have a full nation units but it's the only way to make most of the people alright with that i think.
Wait you saying should have stopped the whole German army with 110000 soldiers?!

Not at all, i said i don't see why russians are less considered by belgians ( read his message) has they played a greater role in the less concentration and the non defeat of western troops than Belgium.
Again read his message, he's trying to compare the russian role with belgians one, as you stated it is not possible.
As saying that Belgium must have a whole faction for Itself instead of Russia.

So my message clearly say that, with or not the Belgian troops, if Russia wasn't here ( which is historically impossible as France goes to war as Ruusia's ally) we had been defeated by the more numbered german army.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: asagek on February 19, 2014, 02:58:17 pm
If Russia was added but not Belgium I would personally find the nearest brick and beat a random homeless guy with it. Russia quit halfway through the war because of the Bolshevik revolution - but the country who gave the allies an advantage in the war and fought from start to finish gets nothing? That wouldn't make sense.

While personally I would want Belgium in the game, I'm 99% sure that after they add the UK they'll add Austria so that it represents both sides equally - that being said, if they add a 5th faction, it should be Belgium >.>

 There's no clue that Belgium must have a Nation in this mod and not Russia  if you go on this way. because without millions of russians mobilizing millions of Austro Germans to face them, that's not the 110 000 belgian soldiers which could have saved us. IF we were not totaly outnumbered and spanked in 1914 it's because of the russians.

+ you forget to remember that, alot of Russian offensives like Brussilov were made by the non stop pressure and asking for of the French and British commanders to help us in great battles, like Verdun, to depressurize our front.

 About the advantage you gave, Serbia gaves a greater advantage and defeated in outnumber and without many artillery and ammunitions the austrian army, starting to invade them on their own territory and forcing two times the Austrians to retreat totaly from Serbia.  That forced germans to send many men to help Austrians in 1915. With they couldn't have a nation plot too so?



Only thing to make everybody happy will be to keep the last two plots for multi nations, like "Eastern Entente" with Serbian, romanian, italian (even if its not an eastern country), russian troops. And eastern Triplice with Ottomans and Bulgarians and Austria Hungary. I know this is not the best way to have a full nation units but it's the only way to make most of the people alright with that i think.
Wait you saying should have stopped the whole German army with 110000 soldiers?!

Not at all, i said i don't see why russians are less considered by belgians ( read his message) has they played a greater role in the less concentration and the non defeat of western troops than Belgium.
Again read his message, he's trying to compare the russian role with belgians one, as you stated it is not possible.
As saying that Belgium must have a whole faction for Itself instead of Russia.

So my message clearly say that, with or not the Belgian troops, if Russia wasn't here ( which is historically impossible as France goes to war as Ruusia's ally) we had been defeated by the more numbered german army.
Thats true
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: AubeS on February 19, 2014, 06:27:44 pm
Uhhh why not simply give the modder the time to make they work ? Personally I think that faction should be developed in this order: UK, Austria Hungary, Russia, other faction.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: KillerMongoose on February 19, 2014, 06:34:54 pm
You're forgetting that without the delaying action fought by Belgium, France would have been rocked.the Belgians prevented hundreds of thousands of Germans from taking France in a matter of weeks. In turn they also gave the UK time to mobilize their troops. My opinion that they should be added is based on the fact that they prevented the war from ending in an early German victory and they fought through the entire war. Belgians even lent troops to Russia at the Tsar's request.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Betaknight on February 19, 2014, 06:36:58 pm
We will decide after UK (if the mod still lived by then, im confident it will). At the moment british is next and don't think too far in the future.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: asagek on February 19, 2014, 06:39:36 pm
You're forgetting that without the delaying action fought by Belgium, France would have been rocked.the Belgians prevented hundreds of thousands of Germans from taking France in a matter of weeks. In turn they also gave the UK time to mobilize their troops. My opinion that they should be added is based on the fact that they prevented the war from ending in an early German victory and they fought through the entire war. Belgians even lent troops to Russia at the Tsar's request.
Thats True They Gave Armoured Cars to the Russians
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: asagek on February 19, 2014, 06:41:18 pm
We will decide after UK (if the mod still lived by then, im confident it will). At the moment british is next and don't think too far in the future.
WY such a pessimist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJUhlRoBL8M
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Nardu on February 19, 2014, 07:24:37 pm
You're forgetting that without the delaying action fought by Belgium, France would have been rocked.the Belgians prevented hundreds of thousands of Germans from taking France in a matter of weeks. In turn they also gave the UK time to mobilize their troops. My opinion that they should be added is based on the fact that they prevented the war from ending in an early German victory and they fought through the entire war. Belgians even lent troops to Russia at the Tsar's request.
Thats True They Gave Armoured Cars to the Russians

[youtube] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQxhOYqLPdY&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DKQxhOYqLPdY [/youtube]

Lel here we go, AGAIN. Seriously belgians stop your "we are the best of the world but nobody Knows it". I don't know what kind of complex made you claims Charlemagne and Clovis and Napoléon and Chuck Norris and everything everything everything on the earth and univers come from Belgium, but this is not fair.

Your army never "saved" France as we know that the 2 of august with invasion of Luxembourg French HQ already gave order to reinforce the left wing and we enter in your country the 4, day of the german invasion.
 The invasion of Belgium by Germany was in the previsions of the XII plan, and french  were already redeploying BEFORE the invasion of Belgium!
The only reason of the non concentration of french armies at your border was we were attacking in eastern France.

If germans do not took Paris it was because:
- they have to deal with occupation of northern France, have to wait and deploy 4 divisions coming from East Front, they also took the bad decision to GO to the East of Paris and not the West, searching for a confrontation with Entente armies etc... The way to the Battle of the Marne was a bigluck, only because germans took their onlywrong decision at this moment.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Coconut on February 19, 2014, 07:31:21 pm
No, I would recommend removing a faction to reduce the lag. I would suggest removing France.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: asagek on February 19, 2014, 07:43:03 pm
No, I would recommend removing a faction to reduce the lag. I would suggest removing France.
Whole the world expect France approves this message + 7 billion
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: asagek on February 19, 2014, 07:44:20 pm
You're forgetting that without the delaying action fought by Belgium, France would have been rocked.the Belgians prevented hundreds of thousands of Germans from taking France in a matter of weeks. In turn they also gave the UK time to mobilize their troops. My opinion that they should be added is based on the fact that they prevented the war from ending in an early German victory and they fought through the entire war. Belgians even lent troops to Russia at the Tsar's request.
Thats True They Gave Armoured Cars to the Russians

[youtube] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQxhOYqLPdY&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DKQxhOYqLPdY [/youtube]

Lel here we go, AGAIN. Seriously belgians stop your "we are the best of the world but nobody Knows it". I don't know what kind of complex made you claims Charlemagne and Clovis and Napoléon and Chuck Norris and everything everything everything on the earth and univers come from Belgium, but this is not fair.

Your army never "saved" France as we know that the 2 of august with invasion of Luxembourg French HQ already gave order to reinforce the left wing and we enter in your country the 4, day of the german invasion.
 The invasion of Belgium by Germany was in the previsions of the XII plan, and french  were already redeploying BEFORE the invasion of Belgium!
The only reason of the non concentration of french armies at your border was we were attacking in eastern France.

If germans do not took Paris it was because:
- they have to deal with occupation of northern France, have to wait and deploy 4 divisions coming from East Front, they also took the bad decision to GO to the East of Paris and not the West, searching for a confrontation with Entente armies etc... The way to the Battle of the Marne was a bigluck, only because germans took their onlywrong decision at this moment.
By recommenting you just proved that you think the same about france as we do about Belgium
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: asagek on February 19, 2014, 07:47:02 pm
Really i think we should add Switzerland they had the best army because they never had to fight with them it would be a great contribution for the mod.  8)
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Eatjello on February 19, 2014, 07:59:35 pm
I say we wait till the mod is properly optimized before we start working on these new nations.

amen
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: asagek on February 19, 2014, 08:03:10 pm
I say we wait till the mod is properly optimized before we start working on these new nations.

amen
yes lets do that
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Nardu on February 19, 2014, 08:13:54 pm
No, I would recommend removing a faction to reduce the lag. I would suggest removing France.
Whole the world expect France approves this message + 7 billion

And Chuck Norris 

Quote
By recommenting you just proved that you think the same about france as we do about Belgium

No i proved you suffer little States syndrom by telling the truth.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Bioz on February 19, 2014, 08:42:43 pm
Anyway, Italy had a fundamental role during the war imho. But let's simply wait what happens. Actually, resolving those lag problems might be better than adding factions right now :)
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: KillerMongoose on February 19, 2014, 08:48:04 pm
Lel here we go, AGAIN. Seriously belgians stop your "we are the best of the world but nobody Knows it". I don't know what kind of complex made you claims Charlemagne and Clovis and Napoléon and Chuck Norris and everything everything everything on the earth and univers come from Belgium, but this is not fair.

Two things,

1. I don't remember any Belgians ever bragging and saying how awesome they are, I'm just saying that they were very important to the war and worthy of a faction in the mod.
2. Charlemagne was born in Liege (that's in Belgium) and Clovis was born in Belgica - aka modern Belgium.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Nardu on February 19, 2014, 09:03:34 pm
Lel here we go, AGAIN. Seriously belgians stop your "we are the best of the world but nobody Knows it". I don't know what kind of complex made you claims Charlemagne and Clovis and Napoléon and Chuck Norris and everything everything everything on the earth and univers come from Belgium, but this is not fair.

Two things,

1. I don't remember any Belgians ever bragging and saying how awesome they are, I'm just saying that they were very important to the war and worthy of a faction in the mod.
2. Charlemagne was born in Liege (that's in Belgium) and Clovis was born in Belgica - aka modern Belgium.

Explain what is very important please?

Two things: many factions were importants, and deserve to be in too: Italy, Serbia, RusSia, Austria, Bulgaria, Ottomans.

That is exactly what i'm saying about your fantasmed history:
Charlemagne is not Belgian. He is born in a place NOW in Belgium, but hes Frankish ( germanic speaker) and not Kelt. Garibaldi is born in a place now in France but he is not french.

Clovis is also Frank, following Frankish Law, probably influenced by a gallo latin culture bu this native language is germanic.

I was pointing the annoying thing of that you alway show things in the good way for you, even if it not the truth. Why don't you say French and British saved the lil pièce of free Belgium territory and protecting your coasts with our war marine?  But always  that in another reality Germany would have rushed to Paris and thanks god, Jésus and Albert the first  you saved the whole western europe?


Seriously i don't deny the fighting of Belgians, but your exageration is far from reality and what happened.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: asagek on February 19, 2014, 09:06:09 pm
Well as far as I know the Canadians saved the Belgian coastline
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Nardu on February 19, 2014, 09:12:26 pm
Well as far as I know the Canadians saved the Belgian coastline

Canada was in British Commonwealth, and i said British and french.

Yes and were went the 2 millions german soldiers? Facing your troops? No.
So yes we saved your coasts, directly and indirectly.





Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Prince_Eugen on February 19, 2014, 09:14:52 pm
People why you so scared about mobile warfare? I stated above - that only big diffrence is the tactics, as long as every faction will have cavalry and artillery, nothing will change too much. Get out of trenches and walk a bit, there IS a world beyond trenches  :P
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Gizmo on February 19, 2014, 09:15:53 pm
2. Charlemagne was born in Liege (that's in Belgium) and Clovis was born in Belgica - aka modern Belgium.
My Grandpa was born in Gabon during colonial times, does that make him an African or Gabonese or whatever that lives there?
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: SeanBeansShako on February 19, 2014, 09:21:53 pm
Kind of getting off topic here.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Captain America on February 19, 2014, 09:46:53 pm
I would say Serbia because they best at removing Ottoman kebab and dirty Austrian Ustaše, but then we'd have a ridiculously over powered nation against a load of puny ones like the UK or France.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: KillerMongoose on February 19, 2014, 09:52:45 pm
^ Agreed, I was a part of it I'll admit and for that I apologize but I'm done now.

Back on topic though. Here's an example of the effect the Belgians had on the German offensive. The Schlieffen Plan outlined that Liege was supposed to be taken in no more than 2 days. It took 12. The Belgians cost the Germans dearly for every mile to buy the Allies - particularly the UK - time and in that goal they succeeded. The line was set up at the Yser and there the Germans were held until the Allies pushed back and into Germany. I'm not saying that Belgium is the savior of WW1, in that aspect you are misquoting me. There were many aspects to the Allied victory and many contributors. My point is that Belgium is one of those contributors and that it would be pretty damned interesting for a game to do something different for once instead of going with the same old factions as every other game or movie has done again and again. I don't know why you're so hostile about my opinion that Belgium should be a faction but for what it's worth I understand why you want factions like Serbia or Russia - I just have a differing opinion.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Prince_Eugen on February 19, 2014, 09:56:56 pm
^ Agreed, I was a part of it I'll admit and for that I apologize but I'm done now.

Back on topic though. Here's an example of the effect the Belgians had on the German offensive. The Schlieffen Plan outlined that Liege was supposed to be taken in no more than 2 days. It took 12. The Belgians cost the Germans dearly for every mile to buy the Allies - particularly the UK - time and in that goal they succeeded. The line was set up at the Yser and there the Germans were held until the Allies pushed back and into Germany. I'm not saying that Belgium is the savior of WW1, in that aspect you are misquoting me. There were many aspects to the Allied victory and many contributors. My point is that Belgium is one of those contributors and that it would be pretty damned interesting for a game to do something different for once instead of going with the same old factions as every other game or movie has done again and again. I don't know why you're so hostile about my opinion that Belgium should be a faction but for what it's worth I understand why you want factions like Serbia or Russia - I just have a differing opinion.
Russia saved Paris in 1914, their constant pressure made Germans to send a lot of troops there. Russian army almost fully destroyed Austro-Hungarian army. Even the Expeditionary corps of Russian army was on western front in quantity of almost 50.000, almost half to Belgian army.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Nardu on February 19, 2014, 11:16:37 pm
^ Agreed, I was a part of it I'll admit and for that I apologize but I'm done now.

Back on topic though. Here's an example of the effect the Belgians had on the German offensive. The Schlieffen Plan outlined that Liege was supposed to be taken in no more than 2 days. It took 12. The Belgians cost the Germans dearly for every mile to buy the Allies - particularly the UK - time and in that goal they succeeded. The line was set up at the Yser and there the Germans were held until the Allies pushed back and into Germany. I'm not saying that Belgium is the savior of WW1, in that aspect you are misquoting me. There were many aspects to the Allied victory and many contributors. My point is that Belgium is one of those contributors and that it would be pretty damned interesting for a game to do something different for once instead of going with the same old factions as every other game or movie has done again and again. I don't know why you're so hostile about my opinion that Belgium should be a faction but for what it's worth I understand why you want factions like Serbia or Russia - I just have a differing opinion.

We never denied that belgians played a role, and I  agree about  that Belgium was one of the contributors.

I'm not hostile to the fact of that Belgium could be in the game, you misunderstood my sentences too, just i was hostile to the opinion of they deserved more "than russians or Austrians a place in this mod. And i gave the precision " if you go on this way", meaning if you want to compare the size of every countries attributes during ww1. But i never said "Belgium doesn't have to be in this mod. I will enjoy every nation that will be added, to me they deserve all to be in. But not because one deserve more.

If they had minors nations, they will have less people. Anglo zulu wars is interesting, but how many players they had compared to BI? And how many  since they put Uk and a bunch of murican troops?

 devs must make their mod alive, and it is not easy to find informations and pictures in big quantities to make a minor country's full  army. That is why it's alway the same nations.
 
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: asagek on February 19, 2014, 11:48:38 pm
^ Agreed, I was a part of it I'll admit and for that I apologize but I'm done now.

Back on topic though. Here's an example of the effect the Belgians had on the German offensive. The Schlieffen Plan outlined that Liege was supposed to be taken in no more than 2 days. It took 12. The Belgians cost the Germans dearly for every mile to buy the Allies - particularly the UK - time and in that goal they succeeded. The line was set up at the Yser and there the Germans were held until the Allies pushed back and into Germany. I'm not saying that Belgium is the savior of WW1, in that aspect you are misquoting me. There were many aspects to the Allied victory and many contributors. My point is that Belgium is one of those contributors and that it would be pretty damned interesting for a game to do something different for once instead of going with the same old factions as every other game or movie has done again and again. I don't know why you're so hostile about my opinion that Belgium should be a faction but for what it's worth I understand why you want factions like Serbia or Russia - I just have a differing opinion.

We never denied that belgians played a role, and I  agree about  that Belgium was one of the contributors.

I'm not hostile to the fact of that Belgium could be in the game, you misunderstood my sentences too, just i was hostile to the opinion of they deserved more "than russians or Austrians a place in this mod. And i gave the precision " if you go on this way", meaning if you want to compare the size of every countries attributes during ww1. But i never said "Belgium doesn't have to be in this mod. I will enjoy every nation that will be added, to me they deserve all to be in. But not because one deserve more.
Now lets All get drunk and live in peace and wait for the next faction XD
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: KillerMongoose on February 19, 2014, 11:56:00 pm
Indeed, enough arguing and misunderstandings - I apologize for what my part in the misunderstandings.

Lets enjoy this awesome mod and the factions that are to come.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Ioan Cojocaru on February 20, 2014, 02:48:07 am
Why does Nobody say they want Romania in this mod :( they were a quite Important nation in ww1
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: asagek on February 20, 2014, 07:36:26 am
Why does Nobody say they want Romania in this mod :( they were a quite Important nation in ww1
Well i do but we must stop fighting or WW3 will happen
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Ioan Cojocaru on February 20, 2014, 08:04:59 am
Why does Nobody say they want Romania in this mod :( they were a quite Important nation in ww1
Well i do but we must stop fighting or WW3 will happen
*Hides the Nuke all nations button* Yeah....Right we should stop...fighting...
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Nardu on February 20, 2014, 09:35:38 am
Why does Nobody say they want Romania in this mod :( they were a quite Important nation in ww1

I did. In a big "others entente" nation with Serbia USA etc.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Xanderman on February 20, 2014, 09:38:45 am
Why does Nobody say they want Romania in this mod :( they were a quite Important nation in ww1
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Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Gokiller on February 20, 2014, 11:55:25 am
Nations like Serbia, Belgium, Canada, Australia, Bulgaria, USA, Japan (if someone even thought about it) South-Africa, Romania should just be used as units in the major factions. It's a waste to create entire factions for them.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: asagek on February 20, 2014, 06:46:56 pm
Nations like Serbia, Belgium, Canada, Australia, Bulgaria, USA, Japan (if someone even thought about it) South-Africa, Romania should just be used as units in the major factions. It's a waste to create entire factions for them.
Well it would never be a waste but i get your point
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: MadManYo on February 20, 2014, 07:37:46 pm
Nations like Serbia, Belgium, Canada, Australia, Bulgaria, USA, Japan (if someone even thought about it) South-Africa, Romania should just be used as units in the major factions. It's a waste to create entire factions for them.
Well it would never be a waste but i get your point
Yes it would save room but they could represent eg Canada could be the CEF and represent part of the British Armed Forces
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: DanyEle on February 20, 2014, 09:36:12 pm
Okay, okay, all factions revealed:

Open to see all factions
Are you sure of what you're doing?
You will regret it!
You can still stop!
Wait, think before clicking!
Not quite yet!
Last warning, you can still keep the surprise effect
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Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Prince_Eugen on February 20, 2014, 09:43:57 pm
San-Marino stronk.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: asagek on February 20, 2014, 09:51:28 pm
Okay, okay, all factions revealed:

Open to see all factions
Are you sure of what you're doing?
You will regret it!
You can still stop!
Wait, think before clicking!
Not quite yet!
Last warning, you can still keep the surprise effect
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LoL 'Murica Nein Nein Nein Nein Nein Nein Where Ist Fegelein Bring Mir Fegelein !!
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: usnavy30 on February 20, 2014, 11:39:43 pm
Okay, okay, all factions revealed:

Open to see all factions
Are you sure of what you're doing?
You will regret it!
You can still stop!
Wait, think before clicking!
Not quite yet!
Last warning, you can still keep the surprise effect
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Made my day inb4 "m" word.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Saga on February 21, 2014, 01:51:11 am
I'm hoping for a Commonwealth team... And hopefully the Gordon Highlanders are on that team! Maybe the Vandooo's?  ;D
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: AubeS on February 21, 2014, 03:22:25 am
Yeah just make he Commonwealth faction with the Brit, Scot, Aussie, etc. And why not add Belgium and US inside the France faction. On the other hand why to speak about Japan which to play a role of the most minor in the war.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on February 21, 2014, 03:36:17 am
Yeah just make he Commonwealth faction with the Brit, Scot, Aussie, etc. And why not add Belgium and US inside the France faction. On the other hand why to speak about Japan which to play a role of the most minor in the war.

The Japanese were the force that pacified the Pacific Navies of the Germans and Austrians. Don't know if they had any part in land warfare.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Nardu on February 21, 2014, 10:17:28 am
Yeah just make he Commonwealth faction with the Brit, Scot, Aussie, etc. And why not add Belgium and US inside the France faction. On the other hand why to speak about Japan which to play a role of the most minor in the war.

The Japanese were the force that pacified the Pacific Navies of the Germans and Austrians. Don't know if they had any part in land warfare.

Yes they had little land warfare.


Yeah just make he Commonwealth faction with the Brit, Scot, Aussie, etc. And why not add Belgium and US inside the France faction.

Uk is the next, i think they will include some commonwealth units like Canadians, Aussies...


Why not for USA, but as a volunteers brigade i think it's the best. But the most important things to add in French nation are Colonial troops first. They can grove up the number of units easily with that: Senegal footmen, Algerian/Tunisian footmen, Zouaves, Spahis for light units etc..




Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: MadManYo on February 21, 2014, 04:35:30 pm
Yeah just make he Commonwealth faction with the Brit, Scot, Aussie, etc. And why not add Belgium and US inside the France faction. On the other hand why to speak about Japan which to play a role of the most minor in the war.

The Japanese were the force that pacified the Pacific Navies of the Germans and Austrians. Don't know if they had any part in land warfare.

Yes they had little land warfare.


Yeah just make he Commonwealth faction with the Brit, Scot, Aussie, etc. And why not add Belgium and US inside the France faction.

Uk is the next, i think they will include some commonwealth units like Canadians, Aussies...


Why not for USA, but as a volunteers brigade i think it's the best. But the most important things to add in French nation are Colonial troops first. They can grove up the number of units easily with that: Senegal footmen, Algerian/Tunisian footmen, Zouaves, Spahis for light units etc..
I think it will be like

Rifle Squad (Normal)
Rifle Squad (Scottish)
Rifle Squad (African/Indian)
Assault Squad (Australian)
Assault Squad (Canadian)
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Pachira on February 21, 2014, 06:44:36 pm
I'd be cool with having an American regiment as part of the UK Faction. Also Scots and Canucks too.

I like multi national teamwork.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: RagingWomble on February 21, 2014, 06:47:41 pm
Yeah just make he Commonwealth faction with the Brit, Scot, Aussie, etc. And why not add Belgium and US inside the France faction. On the other hand why to speak about Japan which to play a role of the most minor in the war.

You do know Scotland is in Britain?
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: KillerMongoose on February 21, 2014, 07:41:17 pm
How about having Canadian snipers instead of just a regular Canadian rifle unit? I'm given to understand that Canadian snipers were quite lethal and are rather popular. Then you could add Sikhs! :P
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Captain_Ageati on February 22, 2014, 08:58:06 pm
We all know *puts on red beret and picks up accordian* that Serbia of course, won the war by itself without help from filthy weaklings like Britain and France and should therefore be the only faction. Iron Europe should just be Serbia and the rest of the world.

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Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Captain America on February 22, 2014, 09:00:39 pm
Sir, please, stop drinking rakia before an event, I'm not shooting allied Austrian regiments again...
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: asagek on February 22, 2014, 10:08:26 pm
We all know *puts on red beret and picks up accordian* that Serbia of course, won the war by itself without help from filthy weaklings like Britain and France and should therefore be the only faction. Iron Europe should just be Serbia and the rest of the world.

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Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Ioan Cojocaru on February 23, 2014, 08:16:39 am
We all know *puts on red beret and picks up accordian* that Serbia of course, won the war by itself without help from filthy weaklings like Britain and France and should therefore be the only faction. Iron Europe should just be Serbia and the rest of the world.

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Wy You So Rascist Against Serbia?!
Well...Serbia isn't a Race its a country and if he is talking crap about Serbians it still wouldn't be Racist because Serbian isn't a Race its a nationality Edit: there is a word for bias towards Nationalities but idk what it is
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Ioan Cojocaru on February 23, 2014, 08:20:45 am
Nations like Serbia, Belgium, Canada, Australia, Bulgaria, USA, Japan (if someone even thought about it) South-Africa, Romania should just be used as units in the major factions. It's a waste to create entire factions for them.
I would be fine with units from Romania all tho idk any countries that used Romanian infrantry besides Austria-Hungary from Transylvania
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Ioan Cojocaru on February 23, 2014, 08:26:51 am
Why does Nobody say they want Romania in this mod :( they were a quite Important nation in ww1
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Well Technically every country was important in WW1 (expect for the Usa because they act like they were the whole reason ww1 was a Entente Victory)
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Rigadoon on February 23, 2014, 08:48:17 am
Why does Nobody say they want Romania in this mod :( they were a quite Important nation in ww1
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Well Technically every country was important in WW1 (expect for the Usa because they act like they were the whole reason ww1 was a Entente Victory)
Yes, many Americans are so ignorant that they believe the US won the war single handedly but that doesn't negate the fact that the US was incredibly important to the Entente's victory.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Xanderman on February 23, 2014, 10:12:12 am
We all know *puts on red beret and picks up accordian* that Serbia of course, won the war by itself without help from filthy weaklings like Britain and France and should therefore be the only faction. Iron Europe should just be Serbia and the rest of the world.

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Wy You So Rascist Against Serbia?!
The reason people make fun of Serbia is because there are very nationalistic people from Serbia on here and it is just fun to troll them.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Ioan Cojocaru on February 23, 2014, 10:24:31 am
Why does Nobody say they want Romania in this mod :( they were a quite Important nation in ww1
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Well Technically every country was important in WW1 (expect for the Usa because they act like they were the whole reason ww1 was a Entente Victory)
Yes, many Americans are so ignorant that they believe the US won the war single handedly but that doesn't negate the fact that the US was incredibly important to the Entente's victory.
Im not saying they didn't help they did supple France And Uk with Supples and some manpower but they didn't really have in the wars Like The ww1 military deaths show that the usa made only 2% unlike European nations even The minor ones like Romania serbia made atleast 14% of the deaths.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Prince_Eugen on February 23, 2014, 10:30:58 am
Death count is not sign of victory, sign of victory is won battles and defeated enemies. And Romania dont do something significant, they joined war in 1916 and were destroyed for a less then 4 month.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Nardu on February 23, 2014, 12:25:49 pm
Death count is not sign of victory, sign of victory is won battles and defeated enemies. And Romania dont do something significant, they joined war in 1916 and were destroyed for a less then 4 month.

that is wrong. How many times do we have to tell that, every country was important. Even if Romania was destroyed, why you believe that french and british sent many troops to help them, and Serbia?

because they caused (specialy for serbians) so many losses to Austria and Bulgaria that forced Germany to send troops. Every german Soldier on Eastern front was one which was not in France.

So they were important, on a different scale.


that is why the comment you did about Britain, without UK France would be crushed. That is so true and so stupid in the same time. Without Austria, Germany would also has been fuckd hard. Without a French victory, Britain would has been isolated on Europe against a strongest germany


Why does Nobody say they want Romania in this mod :( they were a quite Important nation in ww1
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Well Technically every country was important in WW1 (expect for the Usa because they act like they were the whole reason ww1 was a Entente Victory)
Yes, many Americans are so ignorant that they believe the US won the war single handedly but that doesn't negate the fact that the US was incredibly important to the Entente's victory.


Americans only count because they sent many many men. They were effectives on 1918's begining, not before. Germany was already weak.

plus, USA were a poor military power, without modern war experience (Civil war was an old war type did with modern weapons), with a  small professional army, not well equiped. French and British gave a ton of military material to USA, and they had to train them also.

But for every american battalion we have, we can switch it on the frontline with veteran and experienced units, and we can use those units everywhere else on the front, for an attack or something else. Because the americans were more a big human tank for us than a big power. And what was one of the big the problem of Germany? No more men to replace the casualities.

So they played a role, but honestly we can't say they helped more in the victory than other nations that helped us to divide triplice troops. they were "decisives" and that's why they are appart.

But Americans were not considered as good soldiers, as germans were not considered good soldiers during the 1800's (things changed after 1870). It's all modern era vision: Muricans best etc..
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: DanyEle on February 23, 2014, 12:39:31 pm
Read the topic's name: it says "Anymore Factions?" . This is no place to discuss which country played the biggest role in the war. There's another section in these forums called "Historical Discussion" (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?board=8.0) . I'd suggest that you open a new topic there and discuss it in a more appropriate place.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Rigadoon on February 23, 2014, 12:46:13 pm
If the discussion is what faction is added next, then talking about the importance of a country's contribution to the war is important. Not that what is said on this thread will really affect the team's decision on which to work on next, but this is on topic so it can't hurt.


@Nardu
I never said that the US made the greatest contribution. I'm simply stating that it is silly to say that the US did not play and important role in the war. Regardless of how well the they actually fought, the sheer anount of men and industrial power that the US brought to the war was a major factor in ending the war. If you look at statistics, it's really impossible to argue this. Unless if you create another strawman and argue against a point I never made.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Nico on February 23, 2014, 01:12:54 pm
I atleast hope Belgium comes out,
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: MadManYo on February 23, 2014, 01:16:52 pm
I atleast hope Belgium comes out,
They look
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Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: asagek on February 23, 2014, 08:17:05 pm
I atleast hope Belgium comes out,
They look
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Yes they do!
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Captain_Ageati on February 24, 2014, 02:00:24 am
We all know *puts on red beret and picks up accordian* that Serbia of course, won the war by itself without help from filthy weaklings like Britain and France and should therefore be the only faction. Iron Europe should just be Serbia and the rest of the world.

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Wy You So Rascist Against Serbia?!
The reason people make fun of Serbia is because there are very nationalistic people from Serbia on here and it is just fun to troll them.

I'm born in Brit Serb and it's still fun to troll Serbia. It's just so damn funny.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Nardu on February 24, 2014, 09:37:32 am

@Nardu
I never said that the US made the greatest contribution. I'm simply stating that it is silly to say that the US did not play and important role in the war. Regardless of how well the they actually fought, the sheer anount of men and industrial power that the US brought to the war was a major factor in ending the war. If you look at statistics, it's really impossible to argue this. Unless if you create another strawman and argue against a point I never made.

I never said you said, in fact i was agreeing with you :)
 but i'm not native english speaker so my sentences can look rudes on the way i turn em. Sorry.

Yes you true, that is why i said they were decisives and not the greatest helpers too :)

But the men they gave us were more usefull by replacing experienced and veteran units we could use in decisive actions, and to rebalance the size of armies in our way. This explanation was an agreement to your sentence about amuricans thinking they won the war alone ( as for ww2 when we know USSR fought 80% of axis troops) because they saw history by the biased view of modern era.

Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Prince_Eugen on February 24, 2014, 07:37:05 pm
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Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
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Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on February 24, 2014, 11:01:03 pm
Yeah just make he Commonwealth faction with the Brit, Scot, Aussie, etc. And why not add Belgium and US inside the France faction. On the other hand why to speak about Japan which to play a role of the most minor in the war.

The Japanese were the force that pacified the Pacific Navies of the Germans and Austrians. Don't know if they had any part in land warfare.

Yes they had little land warfare.


Yeah just make he Commonwealth faction with the Brit, Scot, Aussie, etc. And why not add Belgium and US inside the France faction.

Uk is the next, i think they will include some commonwealth units like Canadians, Aussies...


Why not for USA, but as a volunteers brigade i think it's the best. But the most important things to add in French nation are Colonial troops first. They can grove up the number of units easily with that: Senegal footmen, Algerian/Tunisian footmen, Zouaves, Spahis for light units etc..
I think it will be like

Rifle Squad (Normal)
Rifle Squad (Scottish)
Rifle Squad (African/Indian)
Assault Squad (Australian)
Assault Squad (Canadian)

To be honest, it pissed me off something royal when I saw that there was only one kind of rifleman unit for France.

I try not to be over-nationalistic here, but World War I was a war where the Colonies gave a LOT of blood for their Empires! Where are the Tirailleurs? Where's the FFL? There were Tonkinese Riflemen on the Western front (The 6th Battalion if anyone's interested)! I understand that they wanted to try and make it seem like a singular front but it looks so... bland. A bit of Khaki in there wouldn't hurt anyone!

It just seems unfair. I get it that it's a mod and they don't have time to model and all that crap but... still.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Rigadoon on February 25, 2014, 02:04:20 am
Yeah just make he Commonwealth faction with the Brit, Scot, Aussie, etc. And why not add Belgium and US inside the France faction. On the other hand why to speak about Japan which to play a role of the most minor in the war.

The Japanese were the force that pacified the Pacific Navies of the Germans and Austrians. Don't know if they had any part in land warfare.

Yes they had little land warfare.


Yeah just make he Commonwealth faction with the Brit, Scot, Aussie, etc. And why not add Belgium and US inside the France faction.

Uk is the next, i think they will include some commonwealth units like Canadians, Aussies...


Why not for USA, but as a volunteers brigade i think it's the best. But the most important things to add in French nation are Colonial troops first. They can grove up the number of units easily with that: Senegal footmen, Algerian/Tunisian footmen, Zouaves, Spahis for light units etc..
I think it will be like

Rifle Squad (Normal)
Rifle Squad (Scottish)
Rifle Squad (African/Indian)
Assault Squad (Australian)
Assault Squad (Canadian)

To be honest, it pissed me off something royal when I saw that there was only one kind of rifleman unit for France.

I try not to be over-nationalistic here, but World War I was a war where the Colonies gave a LOT of blood for their Empires! Where are the Tirailleurs? Where's the FFL? There were Tonkinese Riflemen on the Western front (The 6th Battalion if anyone's interested)! I understand that they wanted to try and make it seem like a singular front but it looks so... bland. A bit of Khaki in there wouldn't hurt anyone!

It just seems unfair. I get it that it's a mod and they don't have time to model and all that crap but... still.
So stop being pissed.

It's definitely possible to add colonial units in the future but we have more important things to do at the moment.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Captain_Ageati on February 26, 2014, 05:28:38 pm
Yeah just make he Commonwealth faction with the Brit, Scot, Aussie, etc. And why not add Belgium and US inside the France faction. On the other hand why to speak about Japan which to play a role of the most minor in the war.

The Japanese were the force that pacified the Pacific Navies of the Germans and Austrians. Don't know if they had any part in land warfare.

Yes they had little land warfare.


Yeah just make he Commonwealth faction with the Brit, Scot, Aussie, etc. And why not add Belgium and US inside the France faction.

Uk is the next, i think they will include some commonwealth units like Canadians, Aussies...


Why not for USA, but as a volunteers brigade i think it's the best. But the most important things to add in French nation are Colonial troops first. They can grove up the number of units easily with that: Senegal footmen, Algerian/Tunisian footmen, Zouaves, Spahis for light units etc..
I think it will be like

Rifle Squad (Normal)
Rifle Squad (Scottish)
Rifle Squad (African/Indian)
Assault Squad (Australian)
Assault Squad (Canadian)

To be honest, it pissed me off something royal when I saw that there was only one kind of rifleman unit for France.

I try not to be over-nationalistic here, but World War I was a war where the Colonies gave a LOT of blood for their Empires! Where are the Tirailleurs? Where's the FFL? There were Tonkinese Riflemen on the Western front (The 6th Battalion if anyone's interested)! I understand that they wanted to try and make it seem like a singular front but it looks so... bland. A bit of Khaki in there wouldn't hurt anyone!

It just seems unfair. I get it that it's a mod and they don't have time to model and all that crap but... still.

Alright sunshine. You're pissed? Do something about it. Make your own models, or your own mod. Can't model or do anything to help contribute to a FREE mod? Well keep your mouth shut and enjoy it. I'm a little upset they've said they won't add many minor but still very important countries (Serbia stronk!) But I'm not pissed at the devs for it. They've done a great job and I enjoy the mod and wish them best of luck with further developments.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on February 26, 2014, 11:15:59 pm
"Pissed" wasn't the best word I could ahve used to describe. I love the mod, honestly I do. I'm just disappointed.

I'm not a raving maniac who's completely adverse to reason, I know the modders have more important things to do. I was just hopin' this would be there too.
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Ioan Cojocaru on March 06, 2014, 08:12:29 am
Ill be happy if one Romanian Unit makes it into the finally Production But i have there is some Mini-mods that focuses on a Campaign or a War during this era like the Serbian Campaign of WW1 or the Belgium Campaign or The Romanian Campaign or the Hungarian-Romanian War Etc
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: asagek on March 06, 2014, 10:32:46 am
Ill be happy if one Romanian Unit makes it into the finally Production But i have there is some Mini-mods that focuses on a Campaign or a War during this era like the Serbian Campaign of WW1 or the Belgium Campaign or The Romanian Campaign or the Hungarian-Romanian War Etc
Well people are prob. gonne make like skins for all factions so you dont even need all of them really XD
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: Ioan Cojocaru on March 09, 2014, 08:32:01 am
Ill be happy if one Romanian Unit makes it into the finally Production But i have there is some Mini-mods that focuses on a Campaign or a War during this era like the Serbian Campaign of WW1 or the Belgium Campaign or The Romanian Campaign or the Hungarian-Romanian War Etc
Well people are prob. gonne make like skins for all factions so you dont even need all of them really XD
True
Title: Re: Anymore Factions?
Post by: AeroNinja on March 10, 2014, 06:50:39 pm
Japan Pls :'( They were very active in WW1 :P