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The 15th of May is a Monday Tardet
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Referee
Steam : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198084970856/
Nickname : Lone
Why would you like to become a referee : Because I appreciate that someone hosts a tournament and uses his time for this, so I want to help you out with it.
Prior experience : NWWC, NWGFL, RGL, RGF, many little tournaments
soz too late reportedSpoilerSteam : https://steamcommunity.com/id/Fungus7w7
Nickname : 91st_Col_Fungus_Stewart
Regiment : N/A
Did you read and accept the rules : Yes[close]
ez tourny
Steam : Le Brave
Nickname : LeBrave
Regiment : 66th
Did you read and accept the rules : Ye
ez tourny
Steam : petl25Why is Petl put as 66th, TRIGGGERRREEEDDDD
Nickname : Petl
Regiment : 3rd
Did you read and accept the rules : yes
Steam : https://steamcommunity.com/id/Raiiqt/<3 Raiimaru
Nickname : 77y_Gren_Raii
Why would you like to become a referee : I wanna help out. I have respect for the Host.
Prior experience : Nothing major but after playing this game for over 4 years, I picked up a thing or two.
Steam : DF (u have me)
Nickname : Melenchon
Regiment : 66th
Did you read and accept the rules : Sure
Steam : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198026050054/
Nickname : ForFun
Regiment : 66th
Did you read and accept the rules : yes
lestaff_tournament result incoming
riplestaff_tournament result incoming
No idea what you talking about .. :'(
Steam : Nero (https://steamcommunity.com/id/neyro_/)Accepted xD
Nickname : Nero
Why would you like to become a referee : A lot of signups so far, so you're gonna need some top-tier referees, like myself ofcourse =)
Prior experience : Little but I'm competent
This is going to be a long ass tournament if majority of people show up, should be fun
Steam : Nero (https://steamcommunity.com/id/neyro_/)
Nickname : Nero
Why would you like to become a referee : A lot of signups so far, so you're gonna need some top-tier referees, like myself ofcourse =)
Prior experience : Little but I'm competent
Steam : https://steamcommunity.com/id/JohnKennedyCH/ (https://steamcommunity.com/id/JohnKennedyCH/)
Nickname : John Kennedy
Why would you like to become a referee : just for Help
Prior experience : I have administered several events and tournaments
Steam :https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198007703968/
Nickname :Godfreid
Regiment :3eVolt (NA), 12th (EU)
Did you read and accept the rules :Yes
ur reg is big joke xDSteam :https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198007703968/
Nickname :Godfreid
Regiment :3eVolt (NA), 12th (EU)
Did you read and accept the rules :Yes
lol u suck bro dont come on and embarass the 3e plz thanks
RIP 3eVeltzur reg is big joke xDSteam :https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198007703968/
Nickname :Godfreid
Regiment :3eVolt (NA), 12th (EU)
Did you read and accept the rules :Yes
lol u suck bro dont come on and embarass the 3e plz thanks
Signing-up for a friend who has been unfairly muted.Axiom isnt playing you daft cunt!!!
Steam: Axiom (https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198057408934/)
Nickname: Axiom (KYS fagdet)
Regiment: KKA
Did you read and accept the rules: fuck off
Signing-up for a friend who has been unfairly muted.Axiom isnt playing you daft cunt!!!
Steam: Axiom (https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198057408934/)
Nickname: Axiom (KYS fagdet)
Regiment: KKA
Did you read and accept the rules: fuck off
Aint joining this shitty S key toruny fgt
I want to hang myself
Steam : https://steamcommunity.com/id/Caprisunmyth
Nickname : Capri Sun
Regiment : 15thYR
Did you read and accept the rules : Yes
I am unsure if I can attend yet but will let you know if I can't.
I actually won't be able to come. Sorry if I caused any inconveniences :-[
Steam : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198133981359/Regiment change - 71st
Nickname : Hursty
Regiment : 59th
Did you read and accept the rules : Yes
fukin na nerds canceling, am I rite my fellow eu's???????im still here baby
fukin na nerds canceling, am I rite my fellow eu's???????im still here baby
Inv me again plz
Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198079714860/Unfortunately I will not be able to attend this tournament due to sudden arrangements. I apologise for any inconveniences caused and wish you the best of luck.
Nickname: Wallie
Regiment: 17e
Did you read and accept the rules: Yes
18e won't use ours on Friday if you want it. Only 100 slots though.
I don't remember ever having you to be fair?
Thought it said Friday, no worries :) Will add you later.
85e server?
85e server?
Probably was me tbh lolI don't remember ever having you to be fair?
Thought it said Friday, no worries :) Will add you later.
I had you around a month or two ago, since I tried to add you to organize a 2v2 with the 18e, which you politely declined if I remember correctly. Or was it someone impersonating you? ???
In any case, thanks a lot. :)
57e*. And nah the owner is a snake innit85e server?
3rd server?
57e*. And nah the owner is a snake innit85e server?
3rd server?
:^)
Fuck off and sign up as ref u noob57e*. And nah the owner is a snake innit85e server?
3rd server?
:^)
Ur the owner?
If you still need referees
Steam : https://steamcommunity.com/id/sleekcrush
Nickname : K-KA_Nr57_Fus_Sleek
Why would you like to become a referee : To help out (I'm not EU so do not associate me with my EU KIA peasants who troll)
Prior experience: Plenty of servers and events/tournaments
Steam : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198133981359/
Nickname : Hursty
Regiment : 71st
Did you read and accept the rules : Yes
Hey sorry for the short notice but I wont be able to make the tourney, sorry again and gl!
Steam : https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198133981359/
Nickname : Hursty
Regiment : 71st
Did you read and accept the rules : Yes
Take me out the tournament, Got a native Tournament tomorrow at the same time. Sorry!
High chance I'm not there cause I have to take over a shift at work, I might be on time but be prepared to just throw me out, 90% sure I can't be there.
Fuckin hell, since when does 18e members sign up for tournaments?
I just realised I never cleared the ban list after the 10v10, I will do it when I get back in 1h just in case people from there are playing tonight.
I just realised I never cleared the ban list after the 10v10, I will do it when I get back in 1h just in case people from there are playing tonight.
Never fear, John Price is here.I just realised I never cleared the ban list after the 10v10, I will do it when I get back in 1h just in case people from there are playing tonight.
Im banned there and Im supposed to play on that server please help Price :(
Ban list is cleared. Tardet, PM'd you the new admin pass as it was still the old one.Still banned
Yeah ikBan list is cleared. Tardet, PM'd you the new admin pass as it was still the old one.Still banned
When EUs lose to NAs.ikr
Bidbig didn't loose against him lulBidbig is probably better than me I will admit never been great at duels but I did choke lol I was winning 2-0, just the fact his 90 ping made his chamber holds cancer.
ez tournykeep the dream alive bois
GG guys, very good experience for me. My first try in European Duel tournaments
https://youtu.be/YZtgyTvY3rE
Rebell !!!!!!!!!!!!!
What?GG guys, very good experience for me. My first try in European Duel tournaments
SoloLineAbuser ????
Congrats to Ledger for winning 1-0 against Shitej.
Congrats to Ledger for winning 1-0 against Shitej.
Duel wasnt finished lul
GG guys, very good experience for me. My first try in European Duel tournamentsHonestly, you did a really nice tournament Dixon, I don't Know How you did beat Maharbaal but you did it.
Tournament has stopped due to Ledger and Hokej having a 30 min+ round and still not willing to actually start playing. I told both to start playing, many times, but they decided to continue doing their playstyle which honestly means their duel could have taken over 2 hours (It was First to five and Ledger was only up 1-0). Its still a game and nobody got time for that.
Its a 1v1 Duel, not 'How long can I block and hold until my opponent gets bored and I can kill him'. Both are disqualified and the final will happen another day which is yet to be announced. LeBrave already got the 3rd Place.
i felt it when i joined the server, that 18e_Official_Server had BAD vibes all over itagreed the server has a dark aura
Congrats to Ledger for winning 1-0 against Shitej.
Congrats to Ledger for winning 1-0 against Shitej.
The server had a dark aura because you morons were in it lelall went downhill when you came on tbh
Actually it was fine until the 2nd server arrivedThe server had a dark aura because you morons were in it lelall went downhill when you came on tbh
ez tourny:'(
ez tourny:'(
Thanks tardet and co. Nice tourney and ran very smoothly xoxYou won 2 matches then left you silly billy
When EUs lose to NAs.
puppy turk ? arent u from 13th huss or smh like dis
This is a great example of how NW's melee system is not fit for duel tournaments especially if two passive players meet throughout the bracket.No no no your passive style. Hojek is more like half running away half a bot on block mode.
somebody plox answer my question :(yes youre too late
all me i was the mastermind
The main reason as to why I took a few steps back during that duel was to shake my hand due to the constant spam of the left mouse button and the occasional right click.I have to congratulates (and i'm not doing it often, never?) you for your performance against hokej, probably one of the best if not the best pragmatic performance i've seen in nw, you showed us a big very big determination there. the way you overcame the extreme difficulty it demand to contest hokej style in such a long period was great.
not sure if saying to someone he plays more or equally cancer than hokej is a complement
The main reason as to why I took a few steps back during that duel was to shake my hand due to the constant spam of the left mouse button and the occasional right click.I have to congratulates (and i'm not doing it often, never?) you for your performance against hokej, probably one of the best if not the best pragmatic performance i've seen in nw, you showed us a big very big determination there. the way you overcame the extreme difficulty it demand to contest hokej style in such a long period was great.
not sure if saying to someone he plays more or equally cancer than hokej is a complement
Someone didn't understand Haze's post.
Regarding what happened in the Quarter-Final bewteen Hokej and Ledger, just gonna actually give some clarifications about my decision aswell as some background story for those who were not on the server at the time. Couldn't post earlier since FSE was down.On the Hokej-Ledger IncidentHokej had a duel versus Desant before, which, despite the score (5-0), took a really long time. So basically when Hokej and Ledger started playing their quarter-final match, most of the other matches were already close to be finished (except LeBrave versus Max1muS which took a bit longer). They had a long first round that Ledger won, but still acceptable, and after that, Hokej simply started to do what he is famous for, hence basically doing upstabs only, extremly long and unnecessary holds, and lots lots lots of blocking. After 15min of this, and the score still being 1-0, I told both of them to actually start playing. They continued to remain extremly passive for another good 10-20 mins, just sometimes not even fighting and simply looking at eachothers passively and this despite a few other warnings. I took the time to consider all the options I had and after already 3hs of a good but tiring tournament, I decided to disqualify both of them, as they both played the exact same way and I had not a single reason to disqualify one player but not the other, given none of them made a single effort to try playing differently. We discussed with Haze and ExtaaZz and given both are good friends, I saw no reason not to allow them playing the final at a later stage which both were fine with, as it was already getting rather late for everyone.
This actually sets a precedent, as I believe not a single person had been disqualified due to their 'playstyle' in a duel tournament before. However let this be known. I'm hosting a duel tournament to offer people an opportunity to prove their talent, enjoy both playing and watching other good players fight but certainly not to encourage someone to sit in front of his computer for litteraly dozen of hours in order to get a chance to earn some E-fame. At the end of the day it remains a game which you're supposed to enjoy. Yes, the NW mechanics are rather simple which can lead to such situations but there is a clear difference bewteen being a good but rather passive player and making up for your lack of overall skills by refusing to take a single risk, and basically just blocking all the time. What Hokej is doing, isn't asking any sort of particular skill, just a lot of patience. Anyone can do it, including myself. Most of the players however do play this game because they love it and are not even remotely interest into ruinning it like Hokej does.
I also make a clear difference between Ledger and Hokej because Ledger has played other duels were he wasn't passive to such extreme. Ledger simply didn't want to give up that easily so he decided to play the exact same way his opponent was doing, while knowing it could potentially lead to an endless duel. I respect Ledger both as a player and as a person, but in that particular situation, I had no choice but to disqualify him aswell. However to prevent such things from happening again, I decided to not accept Hokej for any future 1v1 tournament I might host. The game ain't fixing itself, so it must be the community role to actually step-up and refuse to accept playing against or with people wich by their in-game behaviour and because they're eager to prove themselve to an online community, are fine with ruining a game we all enjoy. I do understand this a decision which some people could disagree with, and I'm aware banning a player because his playstyle is cancerous isn't an actual solution. But as I said, since NW mechanics are way too easy to abuse due to their simplicity, I do not have an other solution I find satisfying. If you're actually capable to spend a whole day or night sitting in front of your computer (because Hokej made it clear to me on steam he had absolutely no problem playing the whole day if it was necessary) to watch and referee this mess, then I will let you host the next 1v1 with joy. As far as I'm concerned, I have other standards which I aim to developp in my tournament.
As for the challonge, since the tournament has to continue, I was forced to pick a winner, so that's why Ledger is seen getting the default over Hokej. But they actually got both disqualified. I wanted to explain the situation because I like to have as much transparancy as possible as admin, not to create any drama or starts a hate-train on a certain player. So please, remain respectful in your comments, no matter if you agree or disagree with the decision I came up with.[close]
I also don't want people to believe that because of this single issue, the tournament wasn't good. I had a lot of fun hosting it, it was really great to have so many people (almost a hundred, not bad for a 'dead game') and I want to thank every one of you for attending. Really made me happy and also got myself some confidence back after the unfortunate turn of events during the last 1v1 EU Event I hosted, some years ago, which caused the tournament not to happen. I received a lot of positive feedbacks after the event so I'm confident the event was quite appreciated aswell.
Also thanks to my amazing referee team, Lone, Sleek, Krytenn, Harford, Kennedy, Messius, Nero, Raii, which all did a fantastic work, getting the tournament to run as smoothly as possible. Nothing would have been possible without those guys and its quite a positive feeling to get to work with mature, serious and respectful people like you. Hope I can get you guys back for the next event, would ensure it to have the same level of professionalism this one had.
A big reason why we got the tournament to work that well was also the fact we had two servers, thanks to John Price, the 18e leader, and BigRedOne, a former NW french player. Price took care of the situation while not being at home and Pluto (his second in command) also helped me a lot setting up the server while Price wasn't reachable. And BRO offered me a 200 slot servers, two or three hours before the event starts, getting it ready in the blink of an eye since Maharbaal had some issues with the 85e server. Those guys are absolute top lads, so glad I could count on them.
The tournament isn't obviously over yet, and the final is set-up for Friday Evening. (Might change, will let you guys know in any case if some people want to watch it, I will make sure to record it anyways). I tried to prioritize the players preferences to pick the day for the final, as I don't think many players really care about the result (Haze or ExtaaZz winning). But on what is going to happen next, I don't know yet. I don't think I will host a tournament before the summer holidays, nor during. There are enough tournament about to start (the 6v6 hosted by Kore, the 5v5 by MightyPain) in June, and the NWGFL and the NWWC still going on for some weeks. And summer break ain't a good time for tournament, atleast to my eyes.
On the format, I'm pretty sure it won't be a 1v1. Not because of what happened but because I think its good to try to space out those events as much as possible. People are starting to feel a bit tired of the French Superiority in 1v1 or 2v2 and while I would be tempted to tell them its just about spending much more times in order to beat them, I also agree with the comment Maurice made a while ago about this. The game is getting older and older as the days go and if we don't want more people to continue leaving, its important we try to get some real competitions going, and just not have the same people winning tournament in a row. No disrespect to ExtaaZz, Haze or LeBrave, which are without a doubt three of the greatest duelist player of all times, but their opponents actually don't necesseraly have the time or willingness to spend as much time as they do on the game anymore. Not having Axiom and Tiberias to sign-up was actually a hit to the tournament quality in term of players. same with Clash signing-up but sadly not being able to attend. Not much I can personally do, but if I was to host another 1v1 tournament soon, I think we would end-up seeing the exact same result.
tltr ; Thanks all for joining and for your trust, see you in September / November hopefully for another tournament (Not 1v1 tho).
not sure if saying to someone he plays more or equally cancer than hokej is a complement
Someone didn't understand Haze's post.
I did and I agree with haze, you're both carcinogenic cunts that wasted everyone's time and guy refereeing your match will probably die of a brain tumour within the next 7 days.
Regarding what happened in the Quarter-Final bewteen Hokej and Ledger, just gonna actually give some clarifications about my decision aswell as some background story for those who were not on the server at the time. Couldn't post earlier since FSE was down.On the Hokej-Ledger IncidentHokej had a duel versus Desant before, which, despite the score (5-0), took a really long time. So basically when Hokej and Ledger started playing their quarter-final match, most of the other matches were already close to be finished (except LeBrave versus Max1muS which took a bit longer). They had a long first round that Ledger won, but still acceptable, and after that, Hokej simply started to do what he is famous for, hence basically doing upstabs only, extremly long and unnecessary holds, and lots lots lots of blocking. After 15min of this, and the score still being 1-0, I told both of them to actually start playing. They continued to remain extremly passive for another good 10-20 mins, just sometimes not even fighting and simply looking at eachothers passively and this despite a few other warnings. I took the time to consider all the options I had and after already 3hs of a good but tiring tournament, I decided to disqualify both of them, as they both played the exact same way and I had not a single reason to disqualify one player but not the other, given none of them made a single effort to try playing differently. We discussed with Haze and ExtaaZz and given both are good friends, I saw no reason not to allow them playing the final at a later stage which both were fine with, as it was already getting rather late for everyone.
This actually sets a precedent, as I believe not a single person had been disqualified due to their 'playstyle' in a duel tournament before. However let this be known. I'm hosting a duel tournament to offer people an opportunity to prove their talent, enjoy both playing and watching other good players fight but certainly not to encourage someone to sit in front of his computer for litteraly dozen of hours in order to get a chance to earn some E-fame. At the end of the day it remains a game which you're supposed to enjoy. Yes, the NW mechanics are rather simple which can lead to such situations but there is a clear difference bewteen being a good but rather passive player and making up for your lack of overall skills by refusing to take a single risk, and basically just blocking all the time. What Hokej is doing, isn't asking any sort of particular skill, just a lot of patience. Anyone can do it, including myself. Most of the players however do play this game because they love it and are not even remotely interest into ruinning it like Hokej does.
I also make a clear difference between Ledger and Hokej because Ledger has played other duels were he wasn't passive to such extreme. Ledger simply didn't want to give up that easily so he decided to play the exact same way his opponent was doing, while knowing it could potentially lead to an endless duel. I respect Ledger both as a player and as a person, but in that particular situation, I had no choice but to disqualify him aswell. However to prevent such things from happening again, I decided to not accept Hokej for any future 1v1 tournament I might host. The game ain't fixing itself, so it must be the community role to actually step-up and refuse to accept playing against or with people wich by their in-game behaviour and because they're eager to prove themselve to an online community, are fine with ruining a game we all enjoy. I do understand this a decision which some people could disagree with, and I'm aware banning a player because his playstyle is cancerous isn't an actual solution. But as I said, since NW mechanics are way too easy to abuse due to their simplicity, I do not have an other solution I find satisfying. If you're actually capable to spend a whole day or night sitting in front of your computer (because Hokej made it clear to me on steam he had absolutely no problem playing the whole day if it was necessary) to watch and referee this mess, then I will let you host the next 1v1 with joy. As far as I'm concerned, I have other standards which I aim to developp in my tournament.
As for the challonge, since the tournament has to continue, I was forced to pick a winner, so that's why Ledger is seen getting the default over Hokej. But they actually got both disqualified. I wanted to explain the situation because I like to have as much transparancy as possible as admin, not to create any drama or starts a hate-train on a certain player. So please, remain respectful in your comments, no matter if you agree or disagree with the decision I came up with.[close]
I also don't want people to believe that because of this single issue, the tournament wasn't good. I had a lot of fun hosting it, it was really great to have so many people (almost a hundred, not bad for a 'dead game') and I want to thank every one of you for attending. Really made me happy and also got myself some confidence back after the unfortunate turn of events during the last 1v1 EU Event I hosted, some years ago, which caused the tournament not to happen. I received a lot of positive feedbacks after the event so I'm confident the event was quite appreciated aswell.
Also thanks to my amazing referee team, Lone, Sleek, Krytenn, Harford, Kennedy, Messius, Nero, Raii, which all did a fantastic work, getting the tournament to run as smoothly as possible. Nothing would have been possible without those guys and its quite a positive feeling to get to work with mature, serious and respectful people like you. Hope I can get you guys back for the next event, would ensure it to have the same level of professionalism this one had.
A big reason why we got the tournament to work that well was also the fact we had two servers, thanks to John Price, the 18e leader, and BigRedOne, a former NW french player. Price took care of the situation while not being at home and Pluto (his second in command) also helped me a lot setting up the server while Price wasn't reachable. And BRO offered me a 200 slot servers, two or three hours before the event starts, getting it ready in the blink of an eye since Maharbaal had some issues with the 85e server. Those guys are absolute top lads, so glad I could count on them.
The tournament isn't obviously over yet, and the final is set-up for Friday Evening. (Might change, will let you guys know in any case if some people want to watch it, I will make sure to record it anyways). I tried to prioritize the players preferences to pick the day for the final, as I don't think many players really care about the result (Haze or ExtaaZz winning). But on what is going to happen next, I don't know yet. I don't think I will host a tournament before the summer holidays, nor during. There are enough tournament about to start (the 6v6 hosted by Kore, the 5v5 by MightyPain) in June, and the NWGFL and the NWWC still going on for some weeks. And summer break ain't a good time for tournament, atleast to my eyes.
On the format, I'm pretty sure it won't be a 1v1. Not because of what happened but because I think its good to try to space out those events as much as possible. People are starting to feel a bit tired of the French Superiority in 1v1 or 2v2 and while I would be tempted to tell them its just about spending much more times in order to beat them, I also agree with the comment Maurice made a while ago about this. The game is getting older and older as the days go and if we don't want more people to continue leaving, its important we try to get some real competitions going, and just not have the same people winning tournament in a row. No disrespect to ExtaaZz, Haze or LeBrave, which are without a doubt three of the greatest duelist player of all times, but their opponents actually don't necesseraly have the time or willingness to spend as much time as they do on the game anymore. Not having Axiom and Tiberias to sign-up was actually a hit to the tournament quality in term of players. same with Clash signing-up but sadly not being able to attend. Not much I can personally do, but if I was to host another 1v1 tournament soon, I think we would end-up seeing the exact same result.
tltr ; Thanks all for joining and for your trust, see you in September / November hopefully for another tournament (Not 1v1 tho).
Im pretty sure tournament's quality in terms of players were fine , I believe I pushed extaz to limits even though losing him 3-2 it was really close and last round was anyone's game . So If you are not satisfied by the "quality" of the attendance that will eventually face Lebrave , extazz and haze tell us not to sign up at all . In Hokej - Ledger situation I'd definitely give Ledger the default instead of disqualification to both simple reason is that Hokej refused to use of down stab to gain superiority over ledger with holding his up-stabs at this point Ledger has nothing to do but adapt his playstyle and take it slow yes this is a game everybody should enjoy it but some people wants to win it . Ledger wanted to win , If I were him I'd take more risks try to chamber those up-stab holds but I'd probably lose to Hokej so simply I see nothing wrong with ledger adapting his playstyle . Sadly we are not some frenchie or british player to have 10-20 ping and feint crazy into trick hokej blocking wrong which would probably never happen aswell as theres only 2 way block its really hard , ledger plays with 47+ ping which limits his capabilities to some extend even though hes really talented . By disqualifiying them both you are simply imply that ledger should have took the risks to try kill Hokej here which is the silliest thing I've heard , why would I take the risk instead of my opponent who is being a total douche bag doing only up-stabs and blocking without attacking ? Logical action here would be giving default win to Ledger over Hokej and letting him play against Extaz which I believe Ledger will lose probably , it wont change the final's name but it will be more just .
Regarding what happened in the Quarter-Final bewteen Hokej and Ledger, just gonna actually give some clarifications about my decision aswell as some background story for those who were not on the server at the time. Couldn't post earlier since FSE was down.On the Hokej-Ledger IncidentHokej had a duel versus Desant before, which, despite the score (5-0), took a really long time. So basically when Hokej and Ledger started playing their quarter-final match, most of the other matches were already close to be finished (except LeBrave versus Max1muS which took a bit longer). They had a long first round that Ledger won, but still acceptable, and after that, Hokej simply started to do what he is famous for, hence basically doing upstabs only, extremly long and unnecessary holds, and lots lots lots of blocking. After 15min of this, and the score still being 1-0, I told both of them to actually start playing. They continued to remain extremly passive for another good 10-20 mins, just sometimes not even fighting and simply looking at eachothers passively and this despite a few other warnings. I took the time to consider all the options I had and after already 3hs of a good but tiring tournament, I decided to disqualify both of them, as they both played the exact same way and I had not a single reason to disqualify one player but not the other, given none of them made a single effort to try playing differently. We discussed with Haze and ExtaaZz and given both are good friends, I saw no reason not to allow them playing the final at a later stage which both were fine with, as it was already getting rather late for everyone.
This actually sets a precedent, as I believe not a single person had been disqualified due to their 'playstyle' in a duel tournament before. However let this be known. I'm hosting a duel tournament to offer people an opportunity to prove their talent, enjoy both playing and watching other good players fight but certainly not to encourage someone to sit in front of his computer for litteraly dozen of hours in order to get a chance to earn some E-fame. At the end of the day it remains a game which you're supposed to enjoy. Yes, the NW mechanics are rather simple which can lead to such situations but there is a clear difference bewteen being a good but rather passive player and making up for your lack of overall skills by refusing to take a single risk, and basically just blocking all the time. What Hokej is doing, isn't asking any sort of particular skill, just a lot of patience. Anyone can do it, including myself. Most of the players however do play this game because they love it and are not even remotely interest into ruinning it like Hokej does.
I also make a clear difference between Ledger and Hokej because Ledger has played other duels were he wasn't passive to such extreme. Ledger simply didn't want to give up that easily so he decided to play the exact same way his opponent was doing, while knowing it could potentially lead to an endless duel. I respect Ledger both as a player and as a person, but in that particular situation, I had no choice but to disqualify him aswell. However to prevent such things from happening again, I decided to not accept Hokej for any future 1v1 tournament I might host. The game ain't fixing itself, so it must be the community role to actually step-up and refuse to accept playing against or with people wich by their in-game behaviour and because they're eager to prove themselve to an online community, are fine with ruining a game we all enjoy. I do understand this a decision which some people could disagree with, and I'm aware banning a player because his playstyle is cancerous isn't an actual solution. But as I said, since NW mechanics are way too easy to abuse due to their simplicity, I do not have an other solution I find satisfying. If you're actually capable to spend a whole day or night sitting in front of your computer (because Hokej made it clear to me on steam he had absolutely no problem playing the whole day if it was necessary) to watch and referee this mess, then I will let you host the next 1v1 with joy. As far as I'm concerned, I have other standards which I aim to developp in my tournament.
As for the challonge, since the tournament has to continue, I was forced to pick a winner, so that's why Ledger is seen getting the default over Hokej. But they actually got both disqualified. I wanted to explain the situation because I like to have as much transparancy as possible as admin, not to create any drama or starts a hate-train on a certain player. So please, remain respectful in your comments, no matter if you agree or disagree with the decision I came up with.[close]
I also don't want people to believe that because of this single issue, the tournament wasn't good. I had a lot of fun hosting it, it was really great to have so many people (almost a hundred, not bad for a 'dead game') and I want to thank every one of you for attending. Really made me happy and also got myself some confidence back after the unfortunate turn of events during the last 1v1 EU Event I hosted, some years ago, which caused the tournament not to happen. I received a lot of positive feedbacks after the event so I'm confident the event was quite appreciated aswell.
Also thanks to my amazing referee team, Lone, Sleek, Krytenn, Harford, Kennedy, Messius, Nero, Raii, which all did a fantastic work, getting the tournament to run as smoothly as possible. Nothing would have been possible without those guys and its quite a positive feeling to get to work with mature, serious and respectful people like you. Hope I can get you guys back for the next event, would ensure it to have the same level of professionalism this one had.
A big reason why we got the tournament to work that well was also the fact we had two servers, thanks to John Price, the 18e leader, and BigRedOne, a former NW french player. Price took care of the situation while not being at home and Pluto (his second in command) also helped me a lot setting up the server while Price wasn't reachable. And BRO offered me a 200 slot servers, two or three hours before the event starts, getting it ready in the blink of an eye since Maharbaal had some issues with the 85e server. Those guys are absolute top lads, so glad I could count on them.
The tournament isn't obviously over yet, and the final is set-up for Friday Evening. (Might change, will let you guys know in any case if some people want to watch it, I will make sure to record it anyways). I tried to prioritize the players preferences to pick the day for the final, as I don't think many players really care about the result (Haze or ExtaaZz winning). But on what is going to happen next, I don't know yet. I don't think I will host a tournament before the summer holidays, nor during. There are enough tournament about to start (the 6v6 hosted by Kore, the 5v5 by MightyPain) in June, and the NWGFL and the NWWC still going on for some weeks. And summer break ain't a good time for tournament, atleast to my eyes.
On the format, I'm pretty sure it won't be a 1v1. Not because of what happened but because I think its good to try to space out those events as much as possible. People are starting to feel a bit tired of the French Superiority in 1v1 or 2v2 and while I would be tempted to tell them its just about spending much more times in order to beat them, I also agree with the comment Maurice made a while ago about this. The game is getting older and older as the days go and if we don't want more people to continue leaving, its important we try to get some real competitions going, and just not have the same people winning tournament in a row. No disrespect to ExtaaZz, Haze or LeBrave, which are without a doubt three of the greatest duelist player of all times, but their opponents actually don't necesseraly have the time or willingness to spend as much time as they do on the game anymore. Not having Axiom and Tiberias to sign-up was actually a hit to the tournament quality in term of players. same with Clash signing-up but sadly not being able to attend. Not much I can personally do, but if I was to host another 1v1 tournament soon, I think we would end-up seeing the exact same result.
tltr ; Thanks all for joining and for your trust, see you in September / November hopefully for another tournament (Not 1v1 tho).
as theres only 2 way block
SpoilerRegarding what happened in the Quarter-Final bewteen Hokej and Ledger, just gonna actually give some clarifications about my decision aswell as some background story for those who were not on the server at the time. Couldn't post earlier since FSE was down.On the Hokej-Ledger IncidentHokej had a duel versus Desant before, which, despite the score (5-0), took a really long time. So basically when Hokej and Ledger started playing their quarter-final match, most of the other matches were already close to be finished (except LeBrave versus Max1muS which took a bit longer). They had a long first round that Ledger won, but still acceptable, and after that, Hokej simply started to do what he is famous for, hence basically doing upstabs only, extremly long and unnecessary holds, and lots lots lots of blocking. After 15min of this, and the score still being 1-0, I told both of them to actually start playing. They continued to remain extremly passive for another good 10-20 mins, just sometimes not even fighting and simply looking at eachothers passively and this despite a few other warnings. I took the time to consider all the options I had and after already 3hs of a good but tiring tournament, I decided to disqualify both of them, as they both played the exact same way and I had not a single reason to disqualify one player but not the other, given none of them made a single effort to try playing differently. We discussed with Haze and ExtaaZz and given both are good friends, I saw no reason not to allow them playing the final at a later stage which both were fine with, as it was already getting rather late for everyone.
This actually sets a precedent, as I believe not a single person had been disqualified due to their 'playstyle' in a duel tournament before. However let this be known. I'm hosting a duel tournament to offer people an opportunity to prove their talent, enjoy both playing and watching other good players fight but certainly not to encourage someone to sit in front of his computer for litteraly dozen of hours in order to get a chance to earn some E-fame. At the end of the day it remains a game which you're supposed to enjoy. Yes, the NW mechanics are rather simple which can lead to such situations but there is a clear difference bewteen being a good but rather passive player and making up for your lack of overall skills by refusing to take a single risk, and basically just blocking all the time. What Hokej is doing, isn't asking any sort of particular skill, just a lot of patience. Anyone can do it, including myself. Most of the players however do play this game because they love it and are not even remotely interest into ruinning it like Hokej does.
I also make a clear difference between Ledger and Hokej because Ledger has played other duels were he wasn't passive to such extreme. Ledger simply didn't want to give up that easily so he decided to play the exact same way his opponent was doing, while knowing it could potentially lead to an endless duel. I respect Ledger both as a player and as a person, but in that particular situation, I had no choice but to disqualify him aswell. However to prevent such things from happening again, I decided to not accept Hokej for any future 1v1 tournament I might host. The game ain't fixing itself, so it must be the community role to actually step-up and refuse to accept playing against or with people wich by their in-game behaviour and because they're eager to prove themselve to an online community, are fine with ruining a game we all enjoy. I do understand this a decision which some people could disagree with, and I'm aware banning a player because his playstyle is cancerous isn't an actual solution. But as I said, since NW mechanics are way too easy to abuse due to their simplicity, I do not have an other solution I find satisfying. If you're actually capable to spend a whole day or night sitting in front of your computer (because Hokej made it clear to me on steam he had absolutely no problem playing the whole day if it was necessary) to watch and referee this mess, then I will let you host the next 1v1 with joy. As far as I'm concerned, I have other standards which I aim to developp in my tournament.
As for the challonge, since the tournament has to continue, I was forced to pick a winner, so that's why Ledger is seen getting the default over Hokej. But they actually got both disqualified. I wanted to explain the situation because I like to have as much transparancy as possible as admin, not to create any drama or starts a hate-train on a certain player. So please, remain respectful in your comments, no matter if you agree or disagree with the decision I came up with.[close]
I also don't want people to believe that because of this single issue, the tournament wasn't good. I had a lot of fun hosting it, it was really great to have so many people (almost a hundred, not bad for a 'dead game') and I want to thank every one of you for attending. Really made me happy and also got myself some confidence back after the unfortunate turn of events during the last 1v1 EU Event I hosted, some years ago, which caused the tournament not to happen. I received a lot of positive feedbacks after the event so I'm confident the event was quite appreciated aswell.
Also thanks to my amazing referee team, Lone, Sleek, Krytenn, Harford, Kennedy, Messius, Nero, Raii, which all did a fantastic work, getting the tournament to run as smoothly as possible. Nothing would have been possible without those guys and its quite a positive feeling to get to work with mature, serious and respectful people like you. Hope I can get you guys back for the next event, would ensure it to have the same level of professionalism this one had.
A big reason why we got the tournament to work that well was also the fact we had two servers, thanks to John Price, the 18e leader, and BigRedOne, a former NW french player. Price took care of the situation while not being at home and Pluto (his second in command) also helped me a lot setting up the server while Price wasn't reachable. And BRO offered me a 200 slot servers, two or three hours before the event starts, getting it ready in the blink of an eye since Maharbaal had some issues with the 85e server. Those guys are absolute top lads, so glad I could count on them.
The tournament isn't obviously over yet, and the final is set-up for Friday Evening. (Might change, will let you guys know in any case if some people want to watch it, I will make sure to record it anyways). I tried to prioritize the players preferences to pick the day for the final, as I don't think many players really care about the result (Haze or ExtaaZz winning). But on what is going to happen next, I don't know yet. I don't think I will host a tournament before the summer holidays, nor during. There are enough tournament about to start (the 6v6 hosted by Kore, the 5v5 by MightyPain) in June, and the NWGFL and the NWWC still going on for some weeks. And summer break ain't a good time for tournament, atleast to my eyes.
On the format, I'm pretty sure it won't be a 1v1. Not because of what happened but because I think its good to try to space out those events as much as possible. People are starting to feel a bit tired of the French Superiority in 1v1 or 2v2 and while I would be tempted to tell them its just about spending much more times in order to beat them, I also agree with the comment Maurice made a while ago about this. The game is getting older and older as the days go and if we don't want more people to continue leaving, its important we try to get some real competitions going, and just not have the same people winning tournament in a row. No disrespect to ExtaaZz, Haze or LeBrave, which are without a doubt three of the greatest duelist player of all times, but their opponents actually don't necesseraly have the time or willingness to spend as much time as they do on the game anymore. Not having Axiom and Tiberias to sign-up was actually a hit to the tournament quality in term of players. same with Clash signing-up but sadly not being able to attend. Not much I can personally do, but if I was to host another 1v1 tournament soon, I think we would end-up seeing the exact same result.
tltr ; Thanks all for joining and for your trust, see you in September / November hopefully for another tournament (Not 1v1 tho).
Im pretty sure tournament's quality in terms of players were fine , I believe I pushed extaz to limits even though losing him 3-2 it was really close and last round was anyone's game . So If you are not satisfied by the "quality" of the attendance that will eventually face Lebrave , extazz and haze tell us not to sign up at all . In Hokej - Ledger situation I'd definitely give Ledger the default instead of disqualification to both simple reason is that Hokej refused to use of down stab to gain superiority over ledger with holding his up-stabs at this point Ledger has nothing to do but adapt his playstyle and take it slow yes this is a game everybody should enjoy it but some people wants to win it . Ledger wanted to win , If I were him I'd take more risks try to chamber those up-stab holds but I'd probably lose to Hokej so simply I see nothing wrong with ledger adapting his playstyle . Sadly we are not some frenchie or british player to have 10-20 ping and feint crazy into trick hokej blocking wrong which would probably never happen aswell as theres only 2 way block its really hard , ledger plays with 47+ ping which limits his capabilities to some extend even though hes really talented . By disqualifiying them both you are simply imply that ledger should have took the risks to try kill Hokej here which is the silliest thing I've heard , why would I take the risk instead of my opponent who is being a total douche bag doing only up-stabs and blocking without attacking ? Logical action here would be giving default win to Ledger over Hokej and letting him play against Extaz which I believe Ledger will lose probably , it wont change the final's name but it will be more just .[close]
Not agreeing here. Ledger said it himself some posts ago, that happens when two passive players meet. And if Tardet disqualifies a player (what was the right decision) for being too passive, you can't blame one of them, since both are passive. There's always two people belonging to a duel. You either disqualify both, or none at all. Everything else would be unfair, since as you stated yourself both (!) could have played more aggressive. What if Hokej went more aggressive and Ledger kept being equally passive, would you blame Ledger then? Don't think so.
Tardet did everything right.. + it's their good right to play like they want, that's also why I don't really get the hate on hokej, he just played his tactic that made him winning before, so did ledger in consequence. And out
For some reason when I signed up I thought this was being hosted on the 17th, not the 13th, sorry about not showing up.
Im pretty sure tournament's quality in terms of players were fine , I believe I pushed extaz to limits even though losing him 3-2 it was really close and last round was anyone's game . So If you are not satisfied by the "quality" of the attendance that will eventually face Lebrave , extazz and haze tell us not to sign up at all .
tbf i should have go in the final but as a ref i just cant play, right lone?
Quote from: RebelliouSIm pretty sure tournament's quality in terms of players were fine , I believe I pushed extaz to limits even though losing him 3-2 it was really close and last round was anyone's game . So If you are not satisfied by the "quality" of the attendance that will eventually face Lebrave , extazz and haze tell us not to sign up at all .
Now I appreciate you Rebel, and I'm saying that without trying to offend you, but to my eyes, you're just getting a bit carried away due to your result against ExtaaZz and see direspect where there is none. Your performance actually surprised me, not gonna lie, and means you could have probably went a bit further in the tournament if you hadn't meet ExtaaZz so early BUT, it was a Ft3, which is extremly short and often can lead to potential upest aaaaand .. you still lost. I could be wrong, but I really think that would you and ExtaaZz re-do a Ft5 or Ft7 10 times, ExtaaZz would win comfortably 9 or 10 times out of this. And that doesn't make you a bad player either, far from it, cause you're not (you're actually way better than me) just not a top duelist either yet.
I was happy with anyone showing up, you included, as you were all a reason of why the tournament was successful. So don't take my comment for what its not please.
@Alator
Guess its a matter of opinion, not sure we'll manage to get to agree with eachothers but I can't say what you're saying is wrong, I've watched the match myself and I said Reb surprised me, he made ExtaaZz works for it, that's undeniable and we all know it ain't easy. But ExtaaZz is the potential winner of the tournament, he could actually achieved what nobody ever achieved ever before him in this community, hence winning a EU duel tournament 3 times in a row. And for that I still think there is a gap between him and Reb. But as I said you've the full right to disagree and I wouldn't call you stupid for that, far from it.
You've my respect for disagreeing with proper arguments and being respectul in any case mate, doesn't surprise me coming from you but still appreciate it.
@Alator
Guess its a matter of opinion, not sure we'll manage to get to agree with eachothers but I can't say what you're saying is wrong, I've watched the match myself and I said Reb surprised me, he made ExtaaZz works for it, that's undeniable and we all know it ain't easy. But ExtaaZz is the potential winner of the tournament, he could actually achieved what nobody ever achieved ever before him in this community, hence winning a EU duel tournament 3 times in a row. And for that I still think there is a gap between him and Reb. But as I said you've the full right to disagree and I wouldn't call you stupid for that, far from it.
You've my respect for disagreeing with proper arguments and being respectul in any case mate, doesn't surprise me coming from you but still appreciate it.
Precisely, hence why rare but nice things have to be maintened so we see an improvement overall :)
Disagreeing but staying respectful and with arguments became a rare thing in this community
@Alator
Guess its a matter of opinion, not sure we'll manage to get to agree with eachothers but I can't say what you're saying is wrong, I've watched the match myself and I said Reb surprised me, he made ExtaaZz works for it, that's undeniable and we all know it ain't easy. But ExtaaZz is the potential winner of the tournament, he could actually achieved what nobody ever achieved ever before him in this community, hence winning a EU duel tournament 3 times in a row. And for that I still think there is a gap between him and Reb. But as I said you've the full right to disagree and I wouldn't call you stupid for that, far from it.
You've my respect for disagreeing with proper arguments and being respectul in any case mate, doesn't surprise me coming from you but still appreciate it.
Disagreeing but staying respectful and with arguments became a rare thing in this community
@Alator
Guess its a matter of opinion, not sure we'll manage to get to agree with eachothers but I can't say what you're saying is wrong, I've watched the match myself and I said Reb surprised me, he made ExtaaZz works for it, that's undeniable and we all know it ain't easy. But ExtaaZz is the potential winner of the tournament, he could actually achieved what nobody ever achieved ever before him in this community, hence winning a EU duel tournament 3 times in a row. And for that I still think there is a gap between him and Reb. But as I said you've the full right to disagree and I wouldn't call you stupid for that, far from it.
You've my respect for disagreeing with proper arguments and being respectul in any case mate, doesn't surprise me coming from you but still appreciate it.
Disagreeing but staying respectful and with arguments became a rare thing in this community
Only lebrave stay respectful and convince us with reasonable arguments since a longs years ...SpoilerThe jock was epicSpoilerI have ofc never see celaSpoilerrejection personelleSpoilerkysSpoilerretards why you stay her ?Spoilerhi rebellious[close][close][close][close][close][close]
@Alator
Guess its a matter of opinion, not sure we'll manage to get to agree with eachothers but I can't say what you're saying is wrong, I've watched the match myself and I said Reb surprised me, he made ExtaaZz works for it, that's undeniable and we all know it ain't easy. But ExtaaZz is the potential winner of the tournament, he could actually achieved what nobody ever achieved ever before him in this community, hence winning a EU duel tournament 3 times in a row. And for that I still think there is a gap between him and Reb. But as I said you've the full right to disagree and I wouldn't call you stupid for that, far from it.
You've my respect for disagreeing with proper arguments and being respectul in any case mate, doesn't surprise me coming from you but still appreciate it.
Precisely, hence why rare but nice things have to be maintened so we see an improvement overall :)
Disagreeing but staying respectful and with arguments became a rare thing in this community
Extazz = tardet?
Big surprise, ExtaZz is shit.Try to play duel with Drake and will see who is noob, HyirisheySpoilerSorry.SpoilerNot Sorry.[close][close]
Try play against anyone, you'll lose just like Russia.Big surprise, ExtaZz is shit.Try to play duel with Drake and will see who is noob, HyirisheySpoilerSorry.SpoilerNot Sorry.[close][close]
Check Tardet's tournament, nub.Try play against anyone, you'll lose just like Russia.Big surprise, ExtaZz is shit.Try to play duel with Drake and will see who is noob, HyirisheySpoilerSorry.SpoilerNot Sorry.[close][close]
Point proven.Check Tardet's tournament, nub.Try play against anyone, you'll lose just like Russia.Big surprise, ExtaZz is shit.Try to play duel with Drake and will see who is noob, HyirisheySpoilerSorry.SpoilerNot Sorry.[close][close]
Big surprise, ExtaZz is shit.Try to play duel with Drake and will see who is noob, HyirisheySpoilerSorry.SpoilerNot Sorry.[close][close]
Big surprise, ExtaZz is shit.This is a epic jock, I have never seen celaSpoilerSorry.SpoilerNot Sorry.[close][close]
Hyirishey btfohe never recovered from last one so
will he ever recover?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phr1pOFK1V8Hyirishey btfohe never recovered from last one so
will he ever recover?
Sorry I have been dead to the world for the last 12 hours, unfortunately I am back again.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phr1pOFK1V8Hyirishey btfohe never recovered from last one so
will he ever recover?
Try play against anyone, you'll lose just like Russia.Big surprise, ExtaZz is shit.Try to play duel with Drake and will see who is noob, HyirisheySpoilerSorry.SpoilerNot Sorry.[close][close]
Whos drake?It's Kakarot