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Title: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 16, 2016, 03:29:46 pm
As we have just opened this board, I want to open this thread to answer any questions or suggestions that you may have. Please remain on topic.

Previous poll - 12.26.2018 included in attachments for reference.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Michael Sparks on February 16, 2016, 04:13:48 pm
It's nice to see this in a seperate area. +1 Duuring.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Pickle on February 16, 2016, 04:14:05 pm
Will the Moderators help the first(or any) of the CRs when they are initially elected? I feel that this job could be very stressful and overwhelming without a little help.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 16, 2016, 04:17:09 pm
Will the Moderators help the first(or any) of the CRs when they are initially elected? I feel that this job could be very stressful and overwhelming without a little help.

Of course. This is my pet project, I want it to succeed and I'll aid CR's as much as possible.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Pickle on February 16, 2016, 04:20:34 pm
When will the first election take place?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Norwegian13 on February 16, 2016, 04:20:47 pm
Will the Moderators help the first(or any) of the CRs when they are initially elected? I feel that this job could be very stressful and overwhelming without a little help.

Of course. This is my pet project, I want it to succeed and I'll aid CR's as much as possible.

Great! I think this project will be a great success, as this opens for a better way to communicate between the community and the leadership. Also, really like the way you made the voting system, good job on that Duuring.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on February 16, 2016, 04:24:11 pm
Will the Moderators help the first(or any) of the CRs when they are initially elected? I feel that this job could be very stressful and overwhelming without a little help.

Of course. This is my pet project, I want it to succeed and I'll aid CR's as much as possible.

Great! I think this project will be a great success, as this opens for a better way to communicate between the community and the leadership. Also, really like the way you made the voting system, good job on that Duuring.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Theodin on February 16, 2016, 04:24:57 pm
It's something, at least. Still think it would be a glorified reporting system.
Anyways, how will you decide who becomes a registered voter? Are there only two conditions (the ones you explained) or are you going to make sure that people who met the criteria but do not support you or the idea aren't allowed in?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Sleek on February 16, 2016, 04:29:38 pm
When will the first election take place?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Cazasar on February 16, 2016, 04:32:16 pm
/sub
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on February 16, 2016, 04:45:42 pm
How would someone come forward as a candidate? Nominated by people in the community or just come forward themselves?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Volk on February 16, 2016, 04:54:02 pm
How would someone come forward as a candidate? Nominated by people in the community or just come forward themselves?
I think both maybe, at least that is what makes sense. Although now that I think about it the Mods might also pick and choose from the Forum so idk.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on February 16, 2016, 04:58:13 pm
Nvm. Found it in the other thread.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 16, 2016, 05:00:58 pm
How would someone come forward as a candidate? Nominated by people in the community or just come forward themselves?

Reading this thread may answer most of your questions:
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=29158.0

In short; they put themselves forward. How the first election will unfold exactly must remain to be seen, this is of course a first attempt, and we'll have a review discussion after it to see how it can be improved.

How would someone come forward as a candidate? Nominated by people in the community or just come forward themselves?
I think both maybe, at least that is what makes sense. Although now that I think about it the Mods might also pick and choose from the Forum so idk.

In regular elections, we will not pick candidates or even endorse them as a moderation team. Moderators may decide to openly support someone just like any other member, though I'd advise them not to. FSE will not, nor will I, to not give people the idea that it's a position of 'Mod favorites' only.

It's something, at least. Still think it would be a glorified reporting system.
Anyways, how will you decide who becomes a registered voter? Are there only two conditions (the ones you explained) or are you going to make sure that people who met the criteria but do not support you or the idea aren't allowed in?

The only criteria is having a forum rank of corporal or higher.

Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: MaxLam on February 16, 2016, 05:05:37 pm
I like this idea, it's rather funny.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 16, 2016, 05:06:42 pm
Please spread the news and get as many people as possible to register, folks. I can't hold a fair election with just 21 Registed voters  :P
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Bravescot on February 16, 2016, 05:08:36 pm
Please spread the news and get as many people as possible to register, folks. I can't hold a fair election with just 21 Registed voters  :P
Could be 22 but "Approval Pending"  :'(
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on February 16, 2016, 05:09:38 pm
Please spread the news and get as many people as possible to register, folks. I can't hold a fair election with just 21 Registed voters  :P
Could be 22 but "Approval Pending"  :'(

You're not good enough for a vote.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 16, 2016, 05:10:31 pm
Could people who have received the membership confirm to me they can enter the voting booth?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Theodin on February 16, 2016, 05:14:39 pm
Could people who have received the membership confirm to me they can enter the voting booth?
Is that just a linguistic device or is that a legit thing?
And I just saw it. I feel stupid.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 16, 2016, 05:15:28 pm
 :P
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Kaasovic on February 16, 2016, 08:03:55 pm
/sub
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Windflower on February 16, 2016, 10:22:14 pm
/sub

:)
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: William on February 16, 2016, 10:26:07 pm
Can't wait!
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Siwi on February 16, 2016, 11:11:53 pm
So it is a monthly thing? You only hold the position for 1 month and then there's another election? Where someone new can be voted in or you can get reelected
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 16, 2016, 11:14:28 pm
So it is a monthly thing? You only hold the position for 1 month and then there's another election? Where someone new can be voted in or you can get reelected

Two months.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: MaxLam on February 16, 2016, 11:59:34 pm
2 months is too short. It should be made at least 3.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 17, 2016, 12:01:18 am
We can discuss that at the end of the first term, because then we'll have more knowledge on what works and what doesn't. For the first term, it's two.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Nipplestockings on February 17, 2016, 12:17:59 am
¡¡!!
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Glenn on February 17, 2016, 02:49:12 am
/subbed
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Carson on February 17, 2016, 03:49:05 am
Vote for Trump
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on February 17, 2016, 06:17:31 am
Where and when should candidate's announce? and should they give a platform as to why they should be CR?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Lawbringer on February 17, 2016, 06:29:41 am
I remember when Karth got everyone in the 63e to vote for him


lol


Spoiler
(https://i.gyazo.com/e6d25809371fd83a144e5613aab4d644.png)
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Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on February 17, 2016, 08:09:00 am
Where and when should candidate's announce? and should they give a platform as to why they should be CR?

^

vote apoc NA rep 2016
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Saxon on February 17, 2016, 02:10:28 pm
#Ketchup4Prez

#I'llBuildAWall

Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Theodin on February 17, 2016, 04:34:31 pm
I remember when Karth got everyone in the 63e to vote for him


lol


Spoiler
(https://i.gyazo.com/e6d25809371fd83a144e5613aab4d644.png)
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It rather looks like he was pretty fair about it.. less biased then your steam group announcements ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on February 17, 2016, 04:46:29 pm
well

thats only if you consider "fair" bringing in a large group of very biased voters, and at one point literally saying "vote for me"

but tis not the time for banter

tis the time to make NA great again (apoc 2016)
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Windflower on February 17, 2016, 06:11:56 pm
Nvm
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 18, 2016, 01:03:09 am
(https://i.imgur.com/Ka1s6g4.png)
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on February 18, 2016, 01:05:15 am
Woo!
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: BabyJesus on February 18, 2016, 01:26:32 am
remove kebab
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Furrnox on February 18, 2016, 08:39:11 pm
So are we basically just electing a forum moderator?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 18, 2016, 09:13:42 pm
You're electing a member of the Moderation team and the moderator of the community Board. They will not be able to hand out punishments themselves, but can put people forward for punishents to appointed (full) Moderators.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Furrnox on February 18, 2016, 09:41:28 pm
Isn't that what we have the report button for?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 18, 2016, 09:59:36 pm
The report button can't edit posts, delete them and lock threads, nor does it have the authority to instruct other members. The CR does.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Cara on February 18, 2016, 10:07:31 pm
Go for 150 !  :D
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on February 18, 2016, 11:28:22 pm
We should do a townhall debate.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 18, 2016, 11:31:06 pm
Caucus? Coinflip anyone?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on February 18, 2016, 11:36:01 pm
Caucus? Coinflip anyone?
Iowa logic 2016

No but like, get the candidates who wish to come into teamspeak, let whoever comes to have a back and forth discussion with the candidates and then encourage a bit of debating. At the end, poll those who came and see who they thought won.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 18, 2016, 11:57:07 pm
I don't think that's really necessary at this stage. Get people to simply register might be more important.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Siwi on February 19, 2016, 12:13:48 am
Caucus? Coinflip anyone?
Iowa logic 2016

No but like, get the candidates who wish to come into teamspeak, let whoever comes to have a back and forth discussion with the candidates and then encourage a bit of debating. At the end, poll those who came and see who they thought won.
Jeb2016
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Thunderstormer on February 19, 2016, 12:21:10 am
Caucus? Coinflip anyone?

caucuses can be fun.(i speak from experience.)  With the right group of people attending, you can get quite the debate that is civil regarding the issues that matter while being entertaining.  Though face to face is better than over the internet imo.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Nipplestockings on February 19, 2016, 12:27:01 am
The issues that matter on fse are like how many times can you say nigg*r without being banned. I think we're all pretty much on the same page here and most people already have an idea of who they're voting for. Although if enough people think it's a good idea I'm sure it could be fun.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 19, 2016, 12:34:28 am
The issues that matter on fse are like how many times can you say nigg*r without being banned. I think we're all pretty much on the same page here and most people already have an idea of who they're voting for. Although if enough people think it's a good idea I'm sure it could be fun.

Reported.

If anyone wants to organise a thing like that, they're of course free to do so.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Locust on February 19, 2016, 02:00:04 am
We should organize a debate! Everyone has teamspeak so we could just do it on there!
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Furrnox on February 19, 2016, 02:14:11 am
You're all weak I'm a winner! Vote for Furrnox make FSE great again!
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on February 19, 2016, 02:37:21 am
We should organize a debate! Everyone has teamspeak so we could just do it on there!
I would support this and be willing to attend (as long as im free)
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Volk on February 19, 2016, 02:48:16 am
We should organize a debate! Everyone has teamspeak so we could just do it on there!
I would support this and be willing to attend (as long as im free)
I feel like this will only end with the debate devolving into a regiment/person bashing-meme fest as is usual on this forum.

What is there to debate about exactly anyway?  :-\
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: MaxLam on February 19, 2016, 02:52:35 am
We should organize a debate! Everyone has teamspeak so we could just do it on there!
I would support this and be willing to attend (as long as im free)
I feel like this will only end with the debate devolving into a regiment/person bashing-meme fest as is usual on this forum.

What is there to debate about exactly anyway?  :-\
Trump.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Locust on February 19, 2016, 03:14:07 am
Well, I think only the debate moderators and the candidates should be granted talk power. This would be a great opportunity for the candidates to demonstrate their professionalism. If one of them chooses to engage in the "bashing" of other players/regiments then that would highlight a lack of maturity and overall unworthiness to hold this important position. The audience could send their questions to the moderators.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Peppers on February 19, 2016, 03:41:35 am
make fse great again marks!
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 19, 2016, 12:41:37 pm
make fse great again marks!

He hasn't even registered as a voter.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Windflower on February 19, 2016, 01:27:37 pm
make fse great again marks!

He hasn't even registered as a voter.

lol
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on February 19, 2016, 06:21:52 pm
We should organize a debate! Everyone has teamspeak so we could just do it on there!

I'd be game if someone decides to organize it.

But I don't know what exactly there is to debate about.

"So what would your policies be as a CR?"

Like, wot do u say to that?

"Well, I wouldn't burn the jews."
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Locust on February 19, 2016, 09:25:44 pm
We should organize a debate! Everyone has teamspeak so we could just do it on there!

I'd be game if someone decides to organize it.

But I don't know what exactly there is to debate about.

"So what would your policies be as a CR?"

Like, wot do u say to that?

"Well, I wouldn't burn the jews."
lmao
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: BabyJesus on February 19, 2016, 09:34:31 pm
We should organize a debate! Everyone has teamspeak so we could just do it on there!

I'd be game if someone decides to organize it.

But I don't know what exactly there is to debate about.

"So what would your policies be as a CR?"

Like, wot do u say to that?

"Well, I wouldn't burn the jews."
Why? Are you pro Jew or something?

I figured it out. Apoc is trying to make the Jews master race.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: William on February 19, 2016, 11:47:47 pm
I just hope that whoever gets elected is someone who will do exactly to what they agreed to do: Moderate in a fair, unbiased manner.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Saxon on February 20, 2016, 12:13:03 am
We should organize a debate! Everyone has teamspeak so we could just do it on there!

I'd be game if someone decides to organize it.

But I don't know what exactly there is to debate about.

"So what would your policies be as a CR?"

Like, wot do u say to that?

"Well, I wouldn't burn the jews."
Why? Are you pro Jew or something?

I figured it out. Apoc is trying to make the Jews master race.

Well I mean I already said I'd build a wall and make FSE great again, so why not? Oh and I will deport the Canadians
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Earth Bby on February 21, 2016, 09:37:26 pm
make fse great again marks!

He hasn't even registered as a voter.

Im not voting for a stupid idea
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 21, 2016, 09:39:09 pm
Evidently, all you can do is complain about others and the work they do.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: PrideofNi on February 21, 2016, 09:40:12 pm
burrrrn
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Earth Bby on February 21, 2016, 09:41:08 pm
I getting my knife to cut myself as we speak dw
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Peppers on February 22, 2016, 04:09:55 am
I getting my knife to cut myself as we speak dw
you gunna make it fam?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Nipplestockings on February 22, 2016, 06:17:36 am
make fse great again marks!

He hasn't even registered as a voter.

Im not voting for a stupid idea

ur jst a muppet brah
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: junedragon on February 22, 2016, 06:35:05 am
I getting my knife to cut myself as we speak dw

NO STOP DONT DO IT MARKS!!!

You have to set up the live stream first to truly become an hero!
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Theodin on February 22, 2016, 05:01:03 pm
Evidently, all you can do is complain about others and the work they do.
And all you do is mute and punish the complainants  8)
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 22, 2016, 07:40:33 pm
Evidently, all you can do is complain about others and the work they do.
And all you do is mute and punish the complainants  8)

How dare you. Muted.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Earth Bby on February 22, 2016, 07:42:04 pm
I getting my knife to cut myself as we speak dw

NO STOP DONT DO IT MARKS!!!

You have to set up the live stream first to truly become an hero!

30 mins, my Twitch name is Pewdiepie9116million doing fan signs in blood.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: BabyJesus on February 22, 2016, 07:43:18 pm
So who are you guys voting for?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: AeroNinja on February 22, 2016, 07:46:02 pm
I'm voting for Gokiller.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on February 22, 2016, 07:53:17 pm
So who are you guys voting for?

VOTE MIKKEL
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Dazzer on February 22, 2016, 07:55:49 pm
pls halp I cant have gif a s a sig :(((((((((((
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Gokiller on February 22, 2016, 07:58:51 pm
I'm voting for Gokiller.
Going to be a tough one, I withdrew my candidacy a couple of days ago.

Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Theodin on February 22, 2016, 08:01:41 pm
You what?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Gokiller on February 22, 2016, 08:05:59 pm
Fixed that shitty English of mine.  :'(
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: MaxLam on February 22, 2016, 10:24:31 pm
My NA choice would be Gluk and EU would be Keith. I don't know whether there will be 1 big list or 2 different ones with 2 different polls. The former seems more likely.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: BabyJesus on February 22, 2016, 10:28:59 pm
Why Gluk? He doesn't represent the community in any way. And the only reason he even uses the forums is to cause banter on the political threads.

Inb4 Gluk types an essay in response
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: William on February 22, 2016, 10:29:16 pm
I'm voting for myself so I can feel better about not getting any votes  ::)
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: BabyJesus on February 22, 2016, 10:30:06 pm
I'm voting for myself so I can feel better about not getting any votes  ::)
thats what I do on Valentine's Day. I just buy my self stuff
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Gokiller on February 22, 2016, 10:41:23 pm
On the who-to-vote matter, my vote will probably go to Tenford or Noorwegian. Even I've never spoken with them so I don't know them personally. But from what I've seen, these two are the best candidates on the EU-side in my opinion.

And that's me voting seriously. Otherwise; HAIL MIKKEL
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Dazzer on February 22, 2016, 10:42:12 pm
VOTE FOR FWUFFY
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Fwuffy on February 22, 2016, 10:50:30 pm
VOTE FOR FWUFFY
Dazzer I was hoping for a more intellectually-stimulating campaign, but... I guess this works too
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Stark99 on February 23, 2016, 12:29:16 am
Can we vote for both a NA and EU CR? #Mikkel2016
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Dazzer on February 23, 2016, 12:47:38 am
VOTE FOR FWUFFY
Dazzer I was hoping for a more intellectually-stimulating campaign, but... I guess this works too
sorry its all I can do
VOTE FOR FWUFFY
I wanted to change smthing in my profile but I cant because of the gif signature  :'(
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Bravescot on February 23, 2016, 01:00:07 am
Vote Crumpet
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: William on February 23, 2016, 01:10:32 am
I mean, if you want someone who will actually be a moderator, I'm right here guys  :'(
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Lawbringer on February 23, 2016, 01:21:35 am
I mean, if you want someone who will actually be a moderator, I'm right here guys  :'(

u have to be cute like JuneDragoon
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: BabyJesus on February 23, 2016, 01:25:02 am
I mean, if you want someone who will actually be a moderator, I'm right here guys  :'(

u have to be cute like JuneDragoon
Or Ap0c
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on February 23, 2016, 02:26:19 am
I mean, if you want someone who will actually be a moderator, I'm right here guys  :'(

What's that supposed to mean?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Lawbringer on February 23, 2016, 03:41:02 am
I mean, if you want someone who will actually be a moderator, I'm right here guys  :'(

What's that supposed to mean?

It means he thinks his memes are superior to ours
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on February 23, 2016, 05:34:40 am
I mean, if you want someone who will actually be a moderator, I'm right here guys  :'(

What's that supposed to mean?

It means he thinks his memes are superior to ours

Thats what it sounded like

Look friend, I respect all the candidates running against me on the NA side. I think they would all make great mods/representatives in their own way if elected, I just feel like I would be best suited for the task. Just because you feel differently doesnt mean you can act like you are the only candidate not in this just for shits n giggles.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Locust on February 23, 2016, 05:56:57 am
APOC im voting for you
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on February 23, 2016, 06:00:36 am
APOC im voting for you


huzzah
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 24, 2016, 08:11:20 am
Mr_Ertheron got warned for trying to register two regimental accounts as voters.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Mr_Etherton on February 24, 2016, 11:05:06 am
Mr_Ertheron got warned for trying to register two regimental accounts as voters.

Didn't see any rules stating that an account owned by multiple people couldn't be used to vote. It's a community vote and a reg/group fse account still has a voice. I was going to vote on behalf of those groups as large proportions of said groups do not have fse.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Furrnox on February 24, 2016, 11:09:02 am
If they cared they would have made accounts and voted for themselves.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Mr_Etherton on February 24, 2016, 11:13:47 am
If they cared they would have made accounts and voted for themselves.

Nobody will go through that much effort just to vote. Easier to use your community page
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on February 24, 2016, 11:16:26 am
Mr_Ertheron got warned for trying to register two regimental accounts as voters.

Didn't see any rules stating that an account owned by multiple people couldn't be used to vote. It's a community vote and a reg/group fse account still has a voice. I was going to vote on behalf of those groups as large proportions of said groups do not have fse.

Its an FSE community vote. If those reg/groups dont use FSE, they shouldnt give 2 shits, so thats a pretty lame excuse to try and use multiple accounts to vote. There is no rule against using multiple accounts, but the whole point of having to register as a voter is to prevent you from using multiple accounts to vote. Congratulations, you played yourself.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Mr_Etherton on February 24, 2016, 11:18:37 am
Mr_Ertheron got warned for trying to register two regimental accounts as voters.

Didn't see any rules stating that an account owned by multiple people couldn't be used to vote. It's a community vote and a reg/group fse account still has a voice. I was going to vote on behalf of those groups as large proportions of said groups do not have fse.

Its an FSE community vote. If those reg/groups dont use FSE, they shouldnt give 2 shits, so thats a pretty lame excuse to try and use multiple accounts to vote. There is no rule against using multiple accounts, but the whole point of having to register as a voter is to prevent you from using multiple accounts to vote. Congratulations, you played yourself.

Not really xD I stated it was gonna be used to vote on behalf of a group. People are so salty over 2 votes it's hilarious. Guess I'll just get everyone to make fse then and get 50x the votes kappa
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on February 24, 2016, 11:19:20 am
I mean, if those people dont use FSE, what possible interest could they have in their FSE community representative?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Mr_Etherton on February 24, 2016, 11:21:11 am
I mean, if those people dont use FSE, what possible interest could they have in their FSE community representative?

Just because they don't have an account it doesn't mean they don't use it. Some choose to not have an account. But they still want the voice of the community heard. I didn't have fse for like 5 months but I used it often. Yh an account provides more of a voice as you are more involves but it's not needed really. Can ask others to voice opinions etc
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Furrnox on February 24, 2016, 11:23:16 am
As far as I know the CR is only getting "powers" on the forums so again why would someone who don't use the forums give a shit?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on February 24, 2016, 11:25:19 am
I mean, if those people dont use FSE, what possible interest could they have in their FSE community representative?

Just because they don't have an account it doesn't mean they don't use it. Some choose to not have an account. But they still want the voice of the community heard. I didn't have fse for like 5 months but I used it often. Yh an account provides more of a voice as you are more involves but it's not needed really. Can ask others to voice opinions etc

If they truly wanted a voice in the community, they would make an account themselves.


As far as I know the CR is only getting "powers" on the forums so again why would someone who don't use the forums give a shit?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: bobertini on February 24, 2016, 11:26:09 am
Where is this booth
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Mr_Etherton on February 24, 2016, 11:26:13 am
As far as I know the CR is only getting "powers" on the forums so again why would someone who don't use the forums give a shit?

Learn to read pls. K4pp4 m3m3s. 👳👳👳👳👳👳👳
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Mr_Etherton on February 24, 2016, 11:26:53 am
🐧
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Furrnox on February 24, 2016, 11:29:54 am
Don't see how the CR will make any difference for someone who just browse the forums without posting, really you're just trying to bs and call the fse facists like all other "cool" kids do.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 24, 2016, 11:50:56 am
Why will a CR work?

First of all, it gives the community Board two active moderators.

"But what if they're trolls?"
Then I'll remove them. Simple as that.

Second, it gives the moderation team two active members who can help improve the forum as we approach BCoF Beta (and eventual release). The forum needs some cleaning up, the rules need updates, we need a new EU Moderator because the old one resigned, giving up a position where he could possibly change things for a position where he could only complain and criticize without having to risk any form of responsibility, and for all these things I need active people to support me and who know the minds of the community to a certain extend. This is not too say that members cannot (continue) sending me or posting suggestions in the Forum&Website section.

Worst case scenario, the situation stays as it is now.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Tenford on February 24, 2016, 12:00:20 pm
Why will a CR work?

First of all, it gives the community Board two active moderators.

"But what if they're trolls?"
Then I'll remove them. Simple as that.

Second, it gives the moderation team two active members who can help improve the forum as we approach BCoF Beta (and eventual release). The forum needs some cleaning up, the rules need updates, we need a new EU Moderator because the old one resigned, giving up a position where he could possibly change things for a position where he could only complain and criticize without having to risk any form of responsibility, and for all these things I need active people to support me and who know the minds of the community to a certain extend. This is not too say that members cannot (continue) sending me or posting suggestions in the Forum&Website section.

Worst case scenario, the situation stays as it is now.

Also you can have extra free time. Beeing "alone" is too hard when you have to deal with all the community
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Furrnox on February 24, 2016, 12:02:38 pm
If you need more active moderators that you trust you should elect them yourself since we the community could literally elect anyone (a troll, someone inactive etc) but I can see that it's hard to take the responsibility to elect someone as head moderator.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Earth Bby on February 24, 2016, 12:13:52 pm
Why will a CR work?

First of all, it gives the community Board two active moderators.

"But what if they're trolls?"
Then I'll remove them. Simple as that.

Second, it gives the moderation team two active members who can help improve the forum as we approach BCoF Beta (and eventual release). The forum needs some cleaning up, the rules need updates, we need a new EU Moderator because the old one resigned, giving up a position where he could possibly change things for a position where he could only complain and criticize without having to risk any form of responsibility, and for all these things I need active people to support me and who know the minds of the community to a certain extend. This is not too say that members cannot (continue) sending me or posting suggestions in the Forum&Website section.

Worst case scenario, the situation stays as it is now.

Also you can have extra free time. Beeing "alone" is too hard when you have to deal with all the community

> Dont speak your mind about matters
> Heads dont need to be involved with the community
> Hire 2 unlucky people to do all the reporting for you while you argue about politics all day.
> Profit from lack of interest of developers
> Trump2016
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Tenford on February 24, 2016, 12:23:58 pm
And party, don't forget about party hard
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 24, 2016, 12:55:47 pm
If you need more active moderators that you trust you should elect them yourself since we the community could literally elect anyone (a troll, someone inactive etc) but I can see that it's hard to take the responsibility to elect someone as head moderator.

I could pick a thousand people that I trust (not really, but let's say we had a thousand people on this forum that I trust) it makes no difference if they're not active in the community.

I could have blocked the applications of candidates I didn't feel were up to the task, sure. Which would undoubtly lead to criticism from you people for 'interfering' with the election. I will receive (and have) received criticism for pretty much every action I (have) take(n). I can't keep running behind people you people with suggestions how to improve the forum, not in the least because (at the end of the day) I don't answer to the community, but to FSE. And that's what simple most of you don't seem to get; I don't do this job for the community. I handle the forums for FSE, and I stay because there is no viable candidate to do the job. If we had them lining up, I'd resigned ages ago. But I'm still here, and I'm trying to change things. Not because I have to, but because I want to.


If you keep that attitude up Marks, even though Vince has told you multiple times to zip it, then you might as well do it without any special forum rank that might be mistaken for a position of authority. As to 'Why don't you play the game???', I happen to have a number of activities outside of the forums, collectively known as 'a life'. (No really, I am quite busy outside of this forum and being active in any form of gaming community is just not viable for me. I do occassionly play the game with the Devs or other friends.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Furrnox on February 24, 2016, 01:03:35 pm
It's not hard to figure out if someone's active also what does you answering to FSE have to do with anything?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 24, 2016, 01:06:02 pm
That was a joke.  :P

Quote
It's not hard to figure out if someone's active also what does you answering to FSE have to do with anything?

It's a never-ending circle of removing people then having to find replacements. Letting them be elected by the community solves both issues.

It's to understand that the Moderation team is not here to please the community (though we obviously try) but to handle the forum in name of FSE. If the community isn't happy with my work, too bad. If FSE isn't happy with my work, then we have a problem.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Furrnox on February 24, 2016, 01:10:32 pm
It may solve the find people issue but you will most likely still have to replace people and when that happens you'd have to setup an election again instead so the work seems about equally frustrating. But what do I know I'm not a mod.

Criticism is a given for any spokesperson/manager at a company.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Tenford on February 24, 2016, 01:11:01 pm
At the end I think everything will works. But today we dont know what will be going on, so, please. Let the poll ends, let people to speak, let things happen and see how comes the future
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on February 24, 2016, 01:16:57 pm
I dont understand half the criticism here.

You are getting the opportunity to elect a mod. It doesnt matter how useless/pointless you feel the position is. If you dont want to do it, dont run for it. The people running DO want to do it, however, and alot of people in the community also would like to have a new mod like this. Its pretty harmless if you ask me.

Nobody is forcing you to give a fuck. If it so strikes your fancy to get involved in this just to complain about how pointless it is, just so you can look "cool", just vote the "None of the Above" option to prove how edgy you really are. Worst case scenario, as Duuring says, is that things continue as they currently are.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Tenford on February 24, 2016, 01:18:33 pm
I dont understand half the criticism here.

You are getting the opportunity to elect a mod. It doesnt matter how useless/pointless you feel the position is. If you dont want to do it, dont run for it. The people running DO want to do it, however, and alot of people in the community also would like to have a new mod like this. Its pretty harmless if you ask me.

Nobody is forcing you to give a fuck. If it so strikes your fancy to get involved in this just to complain about how pointless it is, just so you can look "cool", just vote the "None of the Above" option to prove how edgy you really are. Worst case scenario, as Duuring says, is that things continue as they currently are.

indeed
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Furrnox on February 24, 2016, 01:21:22 pm
I dont understand half the criticism here.

You are getting the opportunity to elect a mod. It doesnt matter how useless/pointless you feel the position is. If you dont want to do it, dont run for it. The people running DO want to do it, however, and alot of people in the community also would like to have a new mod like this. Its pretty harmless if you ask me.

Nobody is forcing you to give a fuck. If it so strikes your fancy to get involved in this just to complain about how pointless it is, just so you can look "cool", just vote the "None of the Above" option to prove how edgy you really are. Worst case scenario, as Duuring says, is that things continue as they currently are.

I'm simply sharing my opinion breh and I did vote "none of the above" cuz I'm an edgy nerd.

I don't find electing moderators to be the most effective way to find new moderators that's all.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on February 24, 2016, 01:24:14 pm
I'm not directing what I am saying at any one person. ^

I just don't understand how this is so controversial.

The mods aren't the illuminati. This isn't some super complicated power play. Having the priviledge to vote for a mod isn't going to cause FSE to explode. Duuring is just letting the community elect mods. How is this such a terrible thing?

 LIke, you can say there are more effective ways to find a mod, or you can actually vote for someone you think would be a good mod
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Furrnox on February 24, 2016, 01:25:28 pm
It's not a terrible thing I just don't find it efficient and I don't trust this community with an "election". :P
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Tenford on February 24, 2016, 01:25:30 pm
I'm not directing what I am saying at any one person.

I just don't understand how this is so controversial.

The mods aren't the illuminati. This isn't some super complicated power play. Having the priviledge to vote for a mod isn't going to cause FSE to explode. Duuring is just letting the community elect mods. How is this such a terrible thing?

opportunities for new people, for new types of community, new faces
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Furrnox on February 24, 2016, 01:27:44 pm
Sending in a moderator application gives you the same opportunity if not a higher opportunity to become a mod since that would base it of your application instead of popularity.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 24, 2016, 01:30:14 pm
Are you a Moderator? Do you sit on the Moderation Team? Do you know how we judge applications?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on February 24, 2016, 01:30:39 pm
It's not a terrible thing I just don't find it efficient and I don't trust this community with an "election". :P

Well I'm sure you can go find some fellow communists out there who also agree democracy is a terrible system, and together maybe you can run for CR and get enough votes to rule the community 2 months from now.


Seriously though, if you feel like shit mods are gonna get elected, then find someone who you think would be a good mod and convince them to run. Then you can tell people why their opinion is shit and why yours is god tier and boom, you got a good mod.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Tenford on February 24, 2016, 01:30:48 pm
Maybe popularity is good. What if a mayority prefers the man X than the man Y? and what? I know ima lose but i signed up for this, because is a chance. No body cares who I am

If this system becomes bad for the community, Duuring will do something, but now? nothing has happened
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Furrnox on February 24, 2016, 01:31:24 pm
Are you a Moderator? Do you sit on the Moderation Team? Do you know how we judge applications?

No but I would find it more fair not to be elected through popularity.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Fwuffy on February 24, 2016, 01:33:18 pm
Community electing mods... Hitler was democratically elected (sorry I just had to, internet memes and misconceptions :D)

But seriously, give it a chance, elections are always usually a popularity contest and like Duuring said, the moderator can be recalled if the situation becomes ridiculous.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on February 24, 2016, 01:35:25 pm
I can't believe that something as harmless as the CR election has become more controversial than the GIF sigs/avatars, or anything that might negatively impact the community
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 24, 2016, 01:35:37 pm
They're Community Mods, aka, Board Moderator of the Community Board. They do not have the power to issue punishments, only to moderate. My goal is, somewhat, to make the Community moderate itself; one part is the ability of OP's to remove posts on their own threads, and now the second part is them electing their own moderators. Trust me, that's about as much autonomy as I can give to the community, and I had to plead long and hard for it.

We do not elect 'full' moderators, and we never will. Though standing in the community is an important factor in the process of picking our new mods. Once again, Marks can tell you all about it because he was still present at the time.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Tenford on February 24, 2016, 01:35:42 pm
THATS IT! if the mod is a faggot troll, he will be removed. Dont worry! You CANT ask for perfect things 100% of the time
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Furrnox on February 24, 2016, 01:38:56 pm
It's not a terrible thing I just don't find it efficient and I don't trust this community with an "election". :P

Well I'm sure you can go find some fellow communists out there who also agree democracy is a terrible system, and together maybe you can run for CR and get enough votes to rule the community 2 months from now.


Seriously though, if you feel like shit mods are gonna get elected, then find someone who you think would be a good mod and convince them to run. Then you can tell people why their opinion is shit and why yours is god tier and boom, you got a good mod.

I don't think it's that simple in this community.

Community electing mods... Hitler was democratically elected (sorry I just had to, internet memes and misconceptions :D)

But seriously, give it a chance, elections are always usually a popularity contest and like Duuring said, the moderator can be recalled if the situation becomes ridiculous.

It could turn out great, I'm just saying that it's not just holding an election that makes a democracy.
I mean I believe the people on this forum will just vote for whoever they know and not for someone they think will make a good mod.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Tenford on February 24, 2016, 01:41:48 pm
It's not a terrible thing I just don't find it efficient and I don't trust this community with an "election". :P

Well I'm sure you can go find some fellow communists out there who also agree democracy is a terrible system, and together maybe you can run for CR and get enough votes to rule the community 2 months from now.


Seriously though, if you feel like shit mods are gonna get elected, then find someone who you think would be a good mod and convince them to run. Then you can tell people why their opinion is shit and why yours is god tier and boom, you got a good mod.

I don't think it's that simple in this community.

Community electing mods... Hitler was democratically elected (sorry I just had to, internet memes and misconceptions :D)

But seriously, give it a chance, elections are always usually a popularity contest and like Duuring said, the moderator can be recalled if the situation becomes ridiculous.

It could turn out great, I'm just saying that it's not just holding an election that makes a democracy.
I mean I believe the people on this forum will just vote for whoever they know and not for someone they think will make a good mod.

In every country, every system, all history you find that problem. Cmon, give us a chance
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Fwuffy on February 24, 2016, 01:43:41 pm
It's not a terrible thing I just don't find it efficient and I don't trust this community with an "election". :P

Well I'm sure you can go find some fellow communists out there who also agree democracy is a terrible system, and together maybe you can run for CR and get enough votes to rule the community 2 months from now.


Seriously though, if you feel like shit mods are gonna get elected, then find someone who you think would be a good mod and convince them to run. Then you can tell people why their opinion is shit and why yours is god tier and boom, you got a good mod.

I don't think it's that simple in this community.

Community electing mods... Hitler was democratically elected (sorry I just had to, internet memes and misconceptions :D)

But seriously, give it a chance, elections are always usually a popularity contest and like Duuring said, the moderator can be recalled if the situation becomes ridiculous.

It could turn out great, I'm just saying that it's not just holding an election that makes a democracy.
I mean I believe the people on this forum will just vote for whoever they know and not for someone they think will make a good mod.
This forum isn't meant to be a democracy, it's just that the community wants a voice. This will either go really well or really ugh
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Nipplestockings on February 24, 2016, 01:44:47 pm
Personally I'm not sure why you included a none of the above option, Duuring. Seems like a way for people to be useless and take votes away from real candidates. If someone doesn't like the system they can just not vote. I'd be interesting in seeing how many people voted none of the above compared to actual people. And I was considering doing it myself until I realized it's better to just give it a shot and stop needlessly resisting.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Tenford on February 24, 2016, 01:46:10 pm
Personally I'm not sure why you included a none of the above option, Duuring. Seems like a way for people to be useless and take votes away from real candidates. If someone doesn't like the system they can just not vote. I'd be interesting in seeing how many people voted none of the above compared to actual people. And I was considering doing it myself until I realized it's better to just give it a shot and stop needlessly resisting.

With that option you know how many people is against the candidates. Without voting you cant know it
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on February 24, 2016, 01:49:41 pm
It's an option that let's people show how edgy they really are and say that a CR is an awful idea
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Furrnox on February 24, 2016, 01:51:22 pm
I'm the edge. A discussion was started I shared my opinion, you may not think the same and that's fine. k?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on February 24, 2016, 01:52:46 pm
And I shared my opinion. Is that not also fine?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Furrnox on February 24, 2016, 01:53:45 pm
That's what I said pleb.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 24, 2016, 01:54:29 pm
It's impossible to have a fair election without offering a blanco or NOTA-option. You must have a way to express disapproval of all candidates or even the system. So yes, people should vote NOTA if they think CR is an awful system. That's the entire point of it.

Besides that, purely practical, it increases the total number of votes so that there's a higher change of a 2nd round, so that someone isn't elected just because a large number of people don't really know what to vote. It also shows the difference between people not bothering to vote because they're lazy and people who honestly don't feel like any of the candidates are good.

As of now, we have a turn-out of 64% (118 votes). 11 of those votes (9% of all votes or 6% of all voters) have chosen the NOTA-option.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: PrideofNi on February 24, 2016, 03:55:56 pm
Why will a CR work?

First of all, it gives the community Board two active moderators.

"But what if they're trolls?"
Then I'll remove them. Simple as that.

Second, it gives the moderation team two active members who can help improve the forum as we approach BCoF Beta (and eventual release). The forum needs some cleaning up, the rules need updates, we need a new EU Moderator because the old one resigned, giving up a position where he could possibly change things for a position where he could only complain and criticize without having to risk any form of responsibility, and for all these things I need active people to support me and who know the minds of the community to a certain extend. This is not too say that members cannot (continue) sending me or posting suggestions in the Forum&Website section.

Worst case scenario, the situation stays as it is now.

I agree its a good idea to get a strong mod team in place before beta to ensure the forum works as it should. Surely you should just recruit a handful of people which are agreed between you and the Devs and give them a trial period?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 24, 2016, 03:56:44 pm
You wrongfully assume the Devs are involved with that.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: PrideofNi on February 24, 2016, 04:06:04 pm
I have yet to see a mod who wasn't agreed to by the Devs, which makes perfect sense.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 24, 2016, 04:07:28 pm
I have yet to see a Dev getting involved with the Forum moderation.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Furrnox on February 24, 2016, 04:09:08 pm
Marks was chosen by Olaf? xD
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 24, 2016, 04:23:15 pm
If you count that as involvement, sure.

I might be sounding more negative then I aim to be. The Devs don't really get involved with moderatorship other then telling me how they'd like their forum ran. And with the Devs I mean Vince. My entire job is basically to make sure he doesn't have to split his time making BCoF and handling this forum.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on February 24, 2016, 04:32:28 pm
You must also remember that we aren't electing a mod, we are electing a community representative. They are two different things.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: BabyJesus on February 24, 2016, 05:25:18 pm
How many shekels does it cost to rig the election?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on February 24, 2016, 05:41:59 pm
How many shekels does it cost to rig the election?

No shekkil, just Mekkil.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 24, 2016, 05:53:38 pm
How many shekels does it cost to rig the election?

Five, I'd say. Six to be sure.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on February 24, 2016, 07:17:02 pm
How many shekels does it cost to rig the election?

Five, I'd say. Six to be sure.

I actually happen to have won roughly 8 shekels from Jackie

Time to rig the election
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: BabyJesus on February 24, 2016, 07:18:13 pm
How many shekels does it cost to rig the election?

Five, I'd say. Six to be sure.
i have 3 shekels. Anyone wanna join forces and rig the election?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: MrTiki on February 24, 2016, 11:10:29 pm
I have yet to see a mod who wasn't agreed to by the Devs, which makes perfect sense.
There's a difference between being chosen by a Dev (a la Duuring/Marks I believe) and being accepted by the Devs (everyone presumably).
No idea what the deal was with other mods before me, but I was asked by Blob as a favour.

Anyway that's neither here nor there, as the CR isn't a Mod (at least a full one) and thus the "application process" or whatever is very different.
Personally I'd like to see a larger mod team, but there aren't exactly queues of applicants. We'll see how this goes, but I'm sceptical that it will make the slightest bit of difference. Still, worth a shot.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Theodin on February 24, 2016, 11:11:22 pm
I have yet to see a mod who wasn't agreed to by the Devs, which makes perfect sense.
There's a difference between being chosen by a Dev (a la Duuring/Marks I believe) and being accepted by the Devs (everyone presumably).
No idea what the deal was with other mods before me, but I was asked by Blob as a favour.

Anyway that's neither here nor there, as the CR isn't a Mod (at least a full one) and thus the "application process" or whatever is very different.
Personally I'd like to see a larger mod team, but there aren't exactly queues of applicants. We'll see how this goes, but I'm sceptical that it will make the slightest bit of difference. Still, worth a shot.
You should be head mod.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Thunderstormer on February 24, 2016, 11:37:40 pm
I have yet to see a mod who wasn't agreed to by the Devs, which makes perfect sense.
There's a difference between being chosen by a Dev (a la Duuring/Marks I believe) and being accepted by the Devs (everyone presumably).
No idea what the deal was with other mods before me, but I was asked by Blob as a favour.

Anyway that's neither here nor there, as the CR isn't a Mod (at least a full one) and thus the "application process" or whatever is very different.
Personally I'd like to see a larger mod team, but there aren't exactly queues of applicants. We'll see how this goes, but I'm sceptical that it will make the slightest bit of difference. Still, worth a shot.

More or less same here, i was asked by Reje in jan of 2014 to help assist,  I decided not to do it until December of that year.(blob approved)  The mod powers are also handy for admining na1.

i too would like to see new, capable mods.(which, afaik all you have to do is PM durring an application) I also do not see a reason to remove good mods because they are busy or need a break as i have seen suggested.  Been working for the official servers for years.  Even if they are barely active, it is still something positive. 

I also hope that this CR thing helps but we will have to see.  All it takes is one person to run for the wrong reason for it to fall apart or hurt it badly.  I am curious to see how many fights/issues get resolved due to the CR or if the majority of people will even care what they do or say.  you just never know until you see it in action.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: MrTiki on February 24, 2016, 11:59:36 pm
Theodin, I turned the position down.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: PrideofNi on February 25, 2016, 12:02:47 am
I have yet to see a mod who wasn't agreed to by the Devs, which makes perfect sense.
There's a difference between being chosen by a Dev (a la Duuring/Marks I believe) and being accepted by the Devs (everyone presumably).
No idea what the deal was with other mods before me, but I was asked by Blob as a favour.

Which I never stated, which is the reason for my confusion in Duurings reply.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Bravescot on February 25, 2016, 01:29:38 am
Oooooooooo new forum colours
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Thundersnow on February 25, 2016, 02:11:54 am
Can I have a forum name color for turning down the job offer of Forum Moderator? 


Cobalt Blue if available.   8)
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Tenford on February 25, 2016, 08:02:27 am
Too much swag
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on February 28, 2016, 10:47:13 am
Remember that today is the last day you can vote people!
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Nipplestockings on March 02, 2016, 12:36:24 am
So what are these reps actually going to do now?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Tenford on March 02, 2016, 12:40:17 am
Conquer the world. Now we are their slaves
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Fwuffy on March 02, 2016, 12:41:05 am
So what are these reps actually going to do now?
Mekkil has been regularly posting and is totally not nearing inactivity (which we've never seen before).
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Nipplestockings on March 02, 2016, 12:57:53 am
ya'll are dumb for voting for mekkil tbh. just because of that one "funny" post? Come on.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Fwuffy on March 02, 2016, 01:04:48 am
ya'll are dumb for voting for mekkil tbh. just because of that one "funny" post? Come on.
shh no subversion :p
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: PrideofNi on March 02, 2016, 01:17:19 am
ya'll are dumb for voting for mekkil tbh. just because of that one "funny" post? Come on.

Dumb post.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Earth Bby on March 02, 2016, 01:46:45 am
So what are these reps actually going to do now?

(https://i.gyazo.com/9f2fcdd3897265fc38233bd1db7663e7.png)

Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on March 02, 2016, 02:46:11 am
We're having a few discussions on the Forum Administration Board. Besides, if you want them to so something, they're only a mouseclick away.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Norwegian13 on March 02, 2016, 02:55:27 pm
To me, it doesn't seem like having these CRs has changed anything.

Mekkil went somewhat inactive now, june is doing his best but yeah...
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Cara on March 02, 2016, 03:01:46 pm
To me, it doesn't seem like having these CRs has changed anything.

Mekkil went somewhat inactive now, june is doing his best but yeah...

Please one week  ::)

As Duuring said, Mekkil made a thread inside our forum to discuss what changes needs to be made, clarifications on rules and punishments... Wait and see. Dont think everything has to be immediate and automatic.
Moreover, we welcome any precises and constructives suggestions :)
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Norwegian13 on March 02, 2016, 03:08:30 pm
Fair enough, but doesn't seem like anything's being done so far.

Doesn't seem like Duuring's project is going anywhere. We'll see though.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Fwuffy on March 02, 2016, 03:31:00 pm
Involvement within the community is something that is appreciated and should be actively carried out. Mod board is obviously off-limit.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: junedragon on March 02, 2016, 04:16:15 pm
Fair enough, but doesn't seem like anything's being done so far.

Doesn't seem like Duuring's project is going anywhere. We'll see though.

Don't worry, updates are coming.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Theodin on March 02, 2016, 04:31:51 pm
Fair enough, but doesn't seem like anything's being done so far.

Doesn't seem like Duuring's project is going anywhere. We'll see though.
It's been one fucking week, jesus dude.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Cara on March 02, 2016, 05:27:23 pm
Fair enough, but doesn't seem like anything's being done so far.

Doesn't seem like Duuring's project is going anywhere. We'll see though.
It's been one fucking week, jesus dude.

Really it's crazy to read this. Yes we will see.
But I have to ask, considering your dramatic tone, what do you think has to be done immediatly ? I really ask for a constructive proposition we can submit to Mikkel and apply instead of "doing nothing" in one week and leading Duuring's project "nowhere"

Spoiler
Or maybe it's like people who don't understand that when a political decision is made at TV, nothing has changed yet the next morning :p
[close]
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Furrnox on March 02, 2016, 05:50:41 pm
Here's an idea how about we form some sort of committee teamspeak with as many regiment leaders as possible taking part (at least the big ones) where we can sort drama, salts and competitive stuff out when we need to, maybe community reps can call for those meetings when something come's up.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on March 02, 2016, 05:53:38 pm
You're free to set something up like that.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Furrnox on March 02, 2016, 05:57:46 pm
Nope I'm fine it was merely a suggestion besides I aint a community rep so I don't really believe I owe this community anything.

(neither am I a regiment leader)
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Cazasar on March 03, 2016, 12:12:48 pm
Im jealous of your community rep NA people :(
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Xethos on March 03, 2016, 12:14:26 pm
Junedragon wouldn't be able to make the half the effort he's making now if he didn't have the MikkelSuperHaus 1.1 million euro funding.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Norwegian13 on March 03, 2016, 04:07:47 pm
@Carabino @Theodin, perhaps I had different expectations for this. I was just hoping for the Community Representative to interact more with the community. We'll see how things work out though, and as said it's only been a week so far so we'll see.

But june is doing fine progress on the NA side, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Mekkil the Graet on March 03, 2016, 04:19:07 pm
Im jealous of your community rep NA people :(
ban imo

Junedragon wouldn't be able to make the half the effort he's making now if he didn't have the MikkelSuperHaus 1.1 million euro funding.
WORKING ON IT
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: PrideofNi on March 03, 2016, 04:35:27 pm
Here's an idea how about we form some sort of committee teamspeak with as many regiment leaders as possible taking part (at least the big ones) where we can sort drama, salts and competitive stuff out when we need to, maybe community reps can call for those meetings when something come's up.

Its almost like you dont know how the big boys do things  :'( Any kind of attempt to fix "drama" or anything that involves a persons regiment will lead to the opposite outcome.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: BabyJesus on March 03, 2016, 05:13:40 pm
It feels like having an EU and a NA CR is kinda pointless.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Karth on March 03, 2016, 06:05:57 pm
NA CR is doing work. EU CR idk
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Becker- on March 03, 2016, 07:00:29 pm
Here's an idea how about we form some sort of committee teamspeak with as many regiment leaders as possible taking part (at least the big ones) where we can sort drama, salts and competitive stuff out when we need to, maybe community reps can call for those meetings when something come's up.


Lol I brought this up multiple times before the elections.
Nobody seems to listen to the idea.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Theodin on March 03, 2016, 08:17:10 pm
Here's an idea how about we form some sort of committee teamspeak with as many regiment leaders as possible taking part (at least the big ones) where we can sort drama, salts and competitive stuff out when we need to, maybe community reps can call for those meetings when something come's up.


Lol I brought this up multiple times before the elections.
Nobody seems to listen to the idea.
Junedragon is already setting up a committee I think
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Becker- on March 04, 2016, 04:28:58 pm
Yup, I voiced my ideas


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Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: bobertini on March 05, 2016, 01:32:40 am
What I want from Mikkel is the right on the GFing server thread to remove what posts I want myself.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on March 05, 2016, 11:13:22 am
What I want from Mikkel is the right on the GFing server thread to remove what posts I want myself.

Hmm. Fair point. We'll discuss it further.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on March 20, 2016, 09:39:08 pm
nvm...being dumb...

However i do believe that there should probably be 3-4 run off candidates as opposed to just 2.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: PrideofNi on March 20, 2016, 09:45:53 pm
That is what happened I'm pretty sure....
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Devmc99 on March 27, 2016, 11:27:24 pm
Where is our Lord Protector
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: bobertini on April 02, 2016, 04:29:24 am
What I want from Mikkel is the right on the GFing server thread to remove what posts I want myself.

Hmm. Fair point. We'll discuss it further.

And....? *drumroll*?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Locust on April 06, 2016, 06:08:49 pm
So how have the CR's improved our community?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on April 06, 2016, 06:18:07 pm
So how have the CR's improved our community?

They just have, okay
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Dazzer on April 06, 2016, 07:56:45 pm
I think we don't need the CRs anymore. I even think that we never needed them
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on April 06, 2016, 07:57:16 pm
I think we don't need the CRs anymore. I even think that we never needed them

Do you know of the discussions going on in the administration board?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Dazzer on April 06, 2016, 07:58:53 pm
I think we don't need the CRs anymore. I even think that we never needed them

Do you know of the discussions going on in the administration board?
No but I didn't notice the CRs did something with the forum in any way
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: BabyJesus on April 06, 2016, 08:26:08 pm
June got ody banned. If that didn't improve the community, idk what will
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Locust on April 07, 2016, 02:32:09 pm
So how have the CR's improved our community?

They just have, okay
What?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Furrnox on April 07, 2016, 03:29:07 pm
Mikkel just did it for "prestige" as suspected. (or well I suspected worse but whatever)
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Mekkil the Graet on April 07, 2016, 04:34:32 pm
Mikkel just did it for "prestige" as suspected. (or well I suspected worse but whatever)
Banning you would do wonders in that regard, yet I have not voiced support for any such thing.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: GerRagnar on April 07, 2016, 04:55:15 pm
I still dont get the point of a CR  ::)
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Cara on April 07, 2016, 05:06:18 pm
To participate to moderation decisions, they have full access to our forum. They can bring concerns from the community and give advice to solve regimental dramas. They are participating to the rules update incoming. And they have moderator powers in the community forum. Last weeks, a bunch of old trolls/shitposters were banned.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: BabyJesus on April 07, 2016, 08:52:26 pm
To participate to moderation decisions, they have full access to our forum. They can bring concerns from the community and give advice to solve regimental dramas. They are participating to the rules update incoming. And they have moderator powers in the community forum. Last weeks, a bunch of old trolls/shitposters were banned.
you mean Alexander? He is such troll
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Norwegian13 on April 16, 2016, 10:46:21 pm
Small suggestion: How about making two seperate Community Representative groups called EU Community Representative and NA Community Representative? Would look nicer and more organized imo.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on April 16, 2016, 11:12:02 pm
Yeah I can do that.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Norwegian13 on April 17, 2016, 12:19:19 pm
Sounds good :)
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: MrTiki on April 17, 2016, 12:50:19 pm
Personally I still don't get why we aren't allowed/supposed to vote for people in a different region. I mean it's not like the servers where people actually don't see each other, we all interact in the same place and same topics. If people don't know candidates they won't vote, but there are plenty of people who will have an opinion one way or the other on candidates in both areas. Just seems silly imo.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on April 17, 2016, 01:13:03 pm
I'm fine with changing the system.

One rather different idea is to have an election every month, electing one CR who then serves two months. Preferably I'd have an election like that be done with an STV-system, though sadly I don't see how I could manage that without having to spend money on a online voting system.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Norwegian13 on April 17, 2016, 02:53:08 pm
So will the system be changed now then? Will we only have 1 Community Representative?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on April 17, 2016, 02:56:31 pm
We could have one, or two elected on the same time, or two elected at different times. It sorta depends on what people want.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on April 17, 2016, 02:58:12 pm
The system as of now is good, no need for change. However, you could host a poll?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Norwegian13 on April 17, 2016, 03:00:03 pm
I'd prefer having two community representatives, but two polls.
So then every "elector" gets two votes, one for NA, and one for EU.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on April 17, 2016, 03:02:10 pm
That rather means we'd have to get rid of the EU-NA divide. There is no equal division of EU and NAs, and EU could potentially cast their votes for only EU candidates. I rather just give everyone one vote, like previous election, and not add to the list if people are EU or NA.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Norwegian13 on April 17, 2016, 03:05:36 pm
Hm - I guess that's fair and square.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Tenford on April 28, 2016, 10:32:43 pm
Here, we all can see we have different communities in this forum. english, german, scandinavian, italian, spanish etc etc. Choosing a CR can help english community (90% of us play in the english community) but what about the smallest communities? I think we should talk and see how to help each community, not only the bigger (english).  The purpose of the CR here is ok, i agree with that, but, Who cares about italy? or Portugal? or Spain? or Turkey? or other countries or groups like latin america? they are not NA or EU and there are loads of players from there. I think we should have a CR for each one of those communities and then, between them all, do the job.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: BabyJesus on April 28, 2016, 10:43:37 pm
Here, we all can see we have different communities in this forum. english, german, scandinavian, italian, spanish etc etc. Choosing a CR can help english community (90% of us play in the english community) but what about the smallest communities? I think we should talk and see how to help each community, not only the bigger (english).  The purpose of the CR here is ok, i agree with that, but, Who cares about italy? or Portugal? or Spain? or Turkey? or other countries or groups like latin america? they are not NA or EU and there are loads of players from there. I think we should have a CR for each one of those communities and then, between them all, do the job.
that would be way to many CRs
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Tenford on April 28, 2016, 10:55:04 pm
Here, we all can see we have different communities in this forum. english, german, scandinavian, italian, spanish etc etc. Choosing a CR can help english community (90% of us play in the english community) but what about the smallest communities? I think we should talk and see how to help each community, not only the bigger (english).  The purpose of the CR here is ok, i agree with that, but, Who cares about italy? or Portugal? or Spain? or Turkey? or other countries or groups like latin america? they are not NA or EU and there are loads of players from there. I think we should have a CR for each one of those communities and then, between them all, do the job.
that would be way to many CRs

If you know english you can have a better life in NW. But a lot, a high % of players dont speak english and they have the right to be represented. Those communities are poor because no one from the high sphere helps them. They dont use to use their forum boards because it is a waste of time. I have to deal with loads of problems in mi community but, oh, I am only a poor spanish, who cares, we have less players than other countries. As I said, you wont see activity with italians, portuguese, spanish, greeks, turkish, whatever, because it is a waste of time, no one cares, no one helps. Is this a real community? then why we dont do the rol? Really you care about other countries? I answer the question: NO.
This is dieng, we have to work together or die alone. We have a very big luck with BCoF. that will help the community (but you will make the same error, focus only in one community and let others die) But, well. As i said, I am only a poor spanish with no chances. No one will follow me and work for something to be proud
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: William on April 28, 2016, 11:14:51 pm
Here, we all can see we have different communities in this forum. english, german, scandinavian, italian, spanish etc etc. Choosing a CR can help english community (90% of us play in the english community) but what about the smallest communities? I think we should talk and see how to help each community, not only the bigger (english).  The purpose of the CR here is ok, i agree with that, but, Who cares about italy? or Portugal? or Spain? or Turkey? or other countries or groups like latin america? they are not NA or EU and there are loads of players from there. I think we should have a CR for each one of those communities and then, between them all, do the job.
that would be way to many CRs

If you know english you can have a better life in NW. But a lot, a high % of players dont speak english and they have the right to be represented. Those communities are poor because no one from the high sphere helps them. They dont use to use their forum boards because it is a waste of time. I have to deal with loads of problems in mi community but, oh, I am only a poor spanish, who cares, we have less players than other countries. As I said, you wont see activity with italians, portuguese, spanish, greeks, turkish, whatever, because it is a waste of time, no one cares, no one helps. Is this a real community? then why we dont do the rol? Really you care about other countries? I answer the question: NO.
This is dieng, we have to work together or die alone. We have a very big luck with BCoF. that will help the community (but you will make the same error, focus only in one community and let others die) But, well. As i said, I am only a poor spanish with no chances. No one will follow me and work for something to be proud
There are language moderators who do such a thing. I'm not trying to be rude but Non-English speakers are represented and have people to moderate themselves; Simply no need to have Reps for them if they already have some. If people who don't speak English want something done they can simply contact their moderator and he can relay the problem to Duuring or whoever it concerns. Hope this helps :)
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Tenford on April 28, 2016, 11:25:32 pm
Here, we all can see we have different communities in this forum. english, german, scandinavian, italian, spanish etc etc. Choosing a CR can help english community (90% of us play in the english community) but what about the smallest communities? I think we should talk and see how to help each community, not only the bigger (english).  The purpose of the CR here is ok, i agree with that, but, Who cares about italy? or Portugal? or Spain? or Turkey? or other countries or groups like latin america? they are not NA or EU and there are loads of players from there. I think we should have a CR for each one of those communities and then, between them all, do the job.
that would be way to many CRs

If you know english you can have a better life in NW. But a lot, a high % of players dont speak english and they have the right to be represented. Those communities are poor because no one from the high sphere helps them. They dont use to use their forum boards because it is a waste of time. I have to deal with loads of problems in mi community but, oh, I am only a poor spanish, who cares, we have less players than other countries. As I said, you wont see activity with italians, portuguese, spanish, greeks, turkish, whatever, because it is a waste of time, no one cares, no one helps. Is this a real community? then why we dont do the rol? Really you care about other countries? I answer the question: NO.
This is dieng, we have to work together or die alone. We have a very big luck with BCoF. that will help the community (but you will make the same error, focus only in one community and let others die) But, well. As i said, I am only a poor spanish with no chances. No one will follow me and work for something to be proud
There are language moderators who do such a thing. I'm not trying to be rude but Non-English speakers are represented and have people to moderate themselves; Simply no need to have Reps for them if they already have some. If people who don't speak English want something done they can simply contact their moderator and he can relay the problem to Duuring or whoever it concerns. Hope this helps :)

Some languages moderators are there with only 20 posts and havent played NW for years and no one do nothing. I said this to Duuring once and to Mekkil, Results? no, there are not results. Just leting things die. If people from the top of the community and devs dont pay atention to the rest of communities, who will do it? me? i have no power, i cant do anything
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Bravescot on March 09, 2017, 08:50:10 am
So who won in then end? Everything just kind of got purged by the looks of it.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on March 09, 2017, 12:32:15 pm
So who won in then end? Everything just kind of got purged by the looks of it.

Voting closes soon looks like
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Windflower on March 09, 2017, 01:19:45 pm
Orcaryo won with 59.7% of the vote
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on March 09, 2017, 06:34:49 pm
*forget it*
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Karth on March 09, 2017, 06:49:16 pm
Congrats Orcaryo  8)
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: tired on March 09, 2017, 07:47:48 pm
Congrats Orcaryo

Anyone who the 63e likes should be lynched!
They must be a traitor to the community!
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: ~Midnight~ on March 09, 2017, 10:52:35 pm
Should I be happy for a whole next term of the NA doing absolutely nothing?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on March 09, 2017, 11:25:01 pm
67 Votes? Something smells here to be honest. I didn't think there were that many active forum members NAside runnin around.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: ~Midnight~ on March 09, 2017, 11:32:12 pm
67 Votes? Something smells here to be honest. I didn't think there were that many active forum members NAside runnin around.
I'm not the type of guy to call bullshit because his side was the sore loser but I concur with AP0C
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: William on March 09, 2017, 11:33:13 pm
67 Votes? Something smells here to be honest. I didn't think there were that many active forum members NAside runnin around.
Euro's can vote too if I'm not mistaken. There's definitely a hefty amount of people who still use the forums and stopped to put a vote in even if they don't care.

Most Online Today: 290
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: ~Midnight~ on March 09, 2017, 11:34:43 pm
Yes but you need to have a special forum group called "Registered Voter" if I'm not mistaken to be able to take part and actually vote.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: AP0CALYPS3 on March 10, 2017, 12:30:10 am
Its definitely quite possible its legit im just surprised. That is far more people than I expected. Wish the vote wasn't anonymous so I could see who rose from their grave to vote.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Xethos on March 10, 2017, 12:54:22 am
A whole load of people who rarely bother with the forum politics got thrust into them very rapidly by people urging them to join one side or another. Probably a fair few of them saw there was an election going on and voted (like me).

And I sure as hell don't want my vote displayed for any self-proclaimed inquisitioner to re-educate me on how to play forum politics. I just want to play the game and see the community in a state where I'm not the only one who wants to play the game.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Getty on March 10, 2017, 01:07:43 am

And I sure as hell don't want my vote displayed for any self-proclaimed inquisitioner to re-educate me on how to play forum politics. I just want to play the game and see the community in a state where I'm not the only one who wants to play the game.

Reeducating you is my job. No one else is allowed to do it. The Emperor Protects.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: NickyJ on March 10, 2017, 01:56:38 am
I voted for Gluk in the first round. I voted for Orcaryo in the run-off. Why?

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=35047.msg1521509#msg1521509
Quote from: Gluk the Walrus
My question is where does orcaryo find these people to vote for him. I dont know a single person that said that they voted for him.

If you are an orcaryo supporter, please make yourself known since we seem to have a 'silent' minority of people voting for him.
The silent majority has no responsibility to say anything to anyone. They can vote for who they want, when they want, and don't have to answer to anyone unless they want to.

Also:

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=35047.msg1521687#msg1521687
Quote from: Gluk the Walrus
Orcaryo, do you really want karth of all people supporting you? Is that what you think the community wants?

 I have no problems with the 63e, a lot of them are cool dude but we have all heard the fucking horror stories of 'X' nco talked to 'X' person so they were kicked out of the reg. Not to mention how he completely ignored the desire of the community for NANWL to go to Amit and made his own thread on taleworlds for it.

I can understand why people are voting for Orcaryo and things are starting to make a bit of sense (seeing as all of these folks tend to dislike me) but my question Orc and i mean this seriously, do you want the support of Karth and to an extension squirts who follows him?
Even though you edited it to change it, the message was still sent. I don't feel my beliefs are being represented by someone who calls out other members over something as stupid as as the 63e thinking Orcaryo is reasonable. It's as unproductive as complaining "The Russians don't hate your guts, so you must be a Russian traitor". I have my own thoughts about the 63e situations, but I know that nothing will be done with an aggressive approach like yours.

Perhaps this post will get me labeled as a Russian 63e spy, but whatevs. Back into the shadows of the silent majority I go.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Siwi on March 10, 2017, 02:22:39 am
I voted for orcaryo cause he has a hot mom
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Theodin on March 10, 2017, 02:27:43 am
I voted for orcaryo cause he has a hot mom
You too?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Orcaryo on March 10, 2017, 02:48:28 am
My mom says thanks for voting for me
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: William on March 10, 2017, 05:50:36 am
Well said Nicky

I voted because I hate communism

Freedom is always worth fighting for. Death is a preferable alternative to Communism! America will never fall to Communist invasion!
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Theodin on March 10, 2017, 06:34:53 am
Well said Nicky. While me and Gluk agree fairly closely on the 63e dilemma, I do not look for agreement in my CR - I look for someone respected and listened to by both parties who can arbitrate fairly and rationally, before taking a side. Orcaryo seems to fit that bill
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Riddlez on March 10, 2017, 01:27:23 pm
The only ways the mods could possibly edit a poll outcome is by means so fucking obvious that it'd be impossible to get away with it. An example is deleting accounts, which would, as I said, be completely obvious.

There is a vast difference between thinking that you know how many people voted for you, for example because people said so in a conversation, and those same people actually doing something when actually voting.

And, as said, EU can vote in NA elections and so can NA with EU. I vote on the NA elections as a CR because it is some way that I can have a say in who I want to be working with.

That is for me, personally, a very good reason why I'd not want the votes to be public. That, and Nicky described it perfectly.

One thing I can tell you is that votes for this election can't be made public, and won't in the coming ones.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on March 10, 2017, 10:56:26 pm
I felt that I should make some kind of closing statement since this was the last time I will likely run. This has been, by far, the worst election yet. Nicky, you're completely right and this is part of the reason why I don't think that I am cut out for CR. I have never been one to try and filter myself, I say what I mean. I only edited my comment because it didn't portray what I really meant to say since it painted Orc as the bad guy for having Karth vote for him. At that point however the damage was done and there is nothing I can do about that. Some have said that I am a "community leader" of sorts (other people's words, not my own) and there are many who really wanted me to get elected this term more so than any other election. I no longer believe that my place in this community is involved with Community Rep. I believe my best work can be accomplished by acting as a community activist (jesus fucking christ, this sounds so stupid) in an attempt to extend the lifetime that this game has left. Everything I wanted to do as CR, I will still try and do. My focus from now on will be to help the 63e boycott, working on NANWL, attempting to create fresh and interesting events that the community will enjoy and to help newer regiments stay alive in the hostile environment that is recruiting on NW.

In addition, this election has been more divisive than ever before and yes, that was partially my fault due to criticisms I have of Orcaryo and others just as they have their own just criticisms of me. However given the circumstances of the community, I don't believe that divisiveness is how we are going to keep this community alive. I give my sincerest apologies to Orcaryo, BabyJ, Nicky and others. I no longer believe that a Community Rep is necessary since it seems that every election just creates further divide and discontent in the community. I'm not just saying that because I lost (everytime lol) but because of this election in particular. I found out some awful information near the end which I will not release to public as it will only create further divide and discontent. Due to what I just said, I would like everyone who backed me in the election to support Orcaryo for this term.

As a final request to Orcaryo, please...make this your last term. A lot of people don't want to see the same person elected to CR every election and it would be nice to have some fresh ideas for CR. I respect your determination but there becomes a point where this no longer becomes about helping the community. Instead it will seem more and more like you're only in it for the title. Just some friendly advice to you bud. I hope you'll help me and Ap0c with the boycott ;)

- Gluk The Walrus,
NANWL Moderator & Community Activist
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Bravescot on March 11, 2017, 09:02:51 am
(https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder132/55341132.jpg)
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on March 11, 2017, 09:45:53 am
Who is the crybaby bravescot? I made a serious post, I told people to support orc and i said it will be the last time i run but no, you decide to post a shit tier meme.

I'm not angry that I lost, i'm angry at the events surrounding this election of which you likely know nothing about.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Bravescot on March 11, 2017, 11:03:44 am
You're getting your pants in a twist over a position that has lost any of its meaning. Only 3 people bothered for NA election (with you being the only one pushing super hard for election with your strong anti-63e policies). Riddlez has won the EU election twice because nobody runs against because it's meaningless.

On a side note: I am fully up to speed with the 63e matter and current events. Thought I might be on hiyatus from playing due to being overseas I am keeping with current events.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: tired on March 11, 2017, 03:15:22 pm
(https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder132/55341132.jpg)

I NE'd at that
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on March 11, 2017, 09:47:53 pm
You're getting your pants in a twist over a position that has lost any of its meaning. Only 3 people bothered for NA election (with you being the only one pushing super hard for election with your strong anti-63e policies). Riddlez has won the EU election twice because nobody runs against because it's meaningless.

On a side note: I am fully up to speed with the 63e matter and current events. Thought I might be on hiyatus from playing due to being overseas I am keeping with current events.
Once again, you likely know nothing about the events surrounding this election as only me and a select few others know and as far as I am aware, you are not one of them. If you thought the position was meaningless, why did you vote? Why are you posting here?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: McPero on March 11, 2017, 10:08:49 pm
I support you Walrus.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Riddlez on March 11, 2017, 10:27:12 pm
You must understand it is hard to believe you when you say only you and a select few know the truth about this election and you choose not to share it...

Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on March 11, 2017, 10:37:31 pm
You must understand it is hard to believe you when you say only you and a select few know the truth about this election and you choose not to share it...
I literally just told you via PM. If you go back to my post, it should make more sense Riddlez -_-

Quote
I found out some awful information near the end which I will not release to public as it will only create further divide and discontent.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: McPero on March 11, 2017, 10:39:47 pm
Reveal the information, you know you want to?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Aurum on March 11, 2017, 11:21:08 pm
i swear if i get asked by someone running to vote for them one more time...
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: NickyJ on March 11, 2017, 11:30:59 pm
i swear if i get asked by someone running to vote for them one more time...
Can I ask you to vote for me since I'm not running?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: ~Midnight~ on March 12, 2017, 12:07:09 am
i swear if i get asked by someone running to vote for them one more time...
Can I ask you to vote for me since I'm not running?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: BabyJesus on March 12, 2017, 12:12:50 am
You must understand it is hard to believe you when you say only you and a select few know the truth about this election and you choose not to share it...
I literally just told you via PM. If you go back to my post, it should make more sense Riddlez -_-

Quote
I found out some awful information near the end which I will not release to public as it will only create further divide and discontent.
ooo boi let me see that info
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Wastee on March 12, 2017, 12:54:08 am
I support Orcaryo for life
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Orcaryo on March 12, 2017, 12:55:57 am
I support Orcaryo for life
Same
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: William on March 12, 2017, 01:07:24 am
I support Orcaryo for life
Same
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Bravescot on March 12, 2017, 02:52:05 am
If you thought the position was meaningless, why did you vote? Why are you posting here?
1. To exercise my ability to vote
2. To stop you getting elected after your appalling smear attack on Orcaryo

I support Orcaryo for life
Same
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on March 12, 2017, 08:38:39 am
If you thought the position was meaningless, why did you vote? Why are you posting here?
1. To exercise my ability to vote
2. To stop you getting elected after your appalling smear attack on Orcaryo
Fair point I guess. Although once again, I have apologized for how I portrayed Orcaryo in that comment as it was not my intent... whether you wish to believe me or not. The comment was more to smear Karth than Orcaryo as well an attempt to convince Orc not to take Karth's support but it definitely didn't come across that way, which is why i edited it :D The election is over though bud, no need pouring salt into the wound. I don't really care anymore.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Riddlez on March 12, 2017, 12:06:22 pm
As anyone who is running for anything at all, the intention why you did it is meaningless. The way people interpret it, though, is really the only thing that counts. Taking back the words has never really worked.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Wastee on March 12, 2017, 07:21:11 pm
Orcaryo did some good shit last night
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Gluk the Walrus on March 12, 2017, 07:35:54 pm
This isnt a presidential election. Its a popularity contest on an internet forum with less than 100 people voting in every election. I've explained myself, apologized and lost so i honestly dont care.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Wastee on March 12, 2017, 08:14:29 pm
Orcaryo did some good shit last night
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Munj on March 13, 2017, 02:19:47 am
Once again, you likely know nothing about the events surrounding this election as only me and a select few others know and as far as I am aware, you are not one of them.

Awwww you special little snowflake
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: maccle on March 20, 2017, 05:38:40 pm
Orcaryo got so many people to vote for him because he sent them a message with a link to the thread saying vote for me. I'm not saying it was scummy, I'm saying he got his voters to turn out and that's why he won. I voted orcaryo because he has a hot mom too btw
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Orcaryo on March 20, 2017, 10:58:16 pm
Orcaryo got so many people to vote for him because he sent them a message with a link to the thread saying vote for me. I'm not saying it was scummy, I'm saying he got his voters to turn out and that's why he won. I voted orcaryo because he has a hot mom too btw
Scandalous
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Risk_ on March 22, 2017, 07:12:37 pm
Orcaryo got so many people to vote for him because he sent them a message with a link to the thread saying vote for me. I'm not saying it was scummy, I'm saying he got his voters to turn out and that's why he won. I voted orcaryo because he has a hot mom too btw

Gulk did the same too, I got messages from both of them just saying "to vote for me" just more people voted for Orcaryo
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: NickyJ on March 23, 2017, 02:55:34 am
I didn't get a Valentine's Day card from either of them. Nobody wanted my vote. :'(
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Orcaryo on March 23, 2017, 04:04:41 am
I didn't get a Valentine's Day card from either of them. Nobody wanted my vote. :'(
I voted for Pickle, you should too
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: William on March 23, 2017, 04:23:32 pm
Term limits? More like Orcaryo for life
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Pickle on March 23, 2017, 06:52:48 pm
I didn't get a Valentine's Day card from either of them. Nobody wanted my vote. :'(
I voted for Pickle, you should too
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Riddlez on March 31, 2017, 05:59:29 pm
Orcaryo's and my initiative is now open:

check it out here, and change the community! (https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=35433.0)
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: BabyJesus on May 23, 2017, 08:16:44 am
So are we done electing new CRs?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Thunderstormer on May 23, 2017, 08:22:29 am
So are we done electing new CRs?
no, i was planning on making a thread soon.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Windflower on December 01, 2017, 09:15:53 pm
What's the hold up, I needa make the new CR post.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Thunderstormer on December 02, 2017, 12:50:55 am
What's the hold up, I needa make the new CR post.
Guess i am in charge of this thing now.  Well, you and ret should have the powers now.  Let me know if you dont and ill see what i can do. 
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Windflower on December 02, 2017, 02:49:47 am
What's the hold up, I needa make the new CR post.
Guess i am in charge of this thing now.  Well, you and ret should have the powers now.  Let me know if you dont and ill see what i can do. 
Thanks homeslice.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: retamar123 on December 03, 2017, 01:19:37 am
What's the hold up, I needa make the new CR post.
Guess i am in charge of this thing now.  Well, you and ret should have the powers now.  Let me know if you dont and ill see what i can do.
Have it too thanks!
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Dredd on August 01, 2018, 03:00:54 pm
Could we create an AU Community Representative Post for the Oceanic Community
with an AU CR

Kind Regards, Snow_Demon (Dredd)
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Furrnox on August 01, 2018, 05:27:02 pm
Oceanic community aka 3 people LUL.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: BabyJesus on August 01, 2018, 07:40:22 pm
Oceanic community aka 3 people LUL.
3 more than NA
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: junedragon on September 07, 2018, 03:21:35 pm
Oceanic community aka 3 people LUL.
3 more than NA

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Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Shadow on September 07, 2018, 04:46:03 pm
Could we create an AU Community Representative Post for the Oceanic Community
with an AU CR

Kind Regards, Snow_Demon (Dredd)

This was discussed, and at this time we're not going to pursue that. We feel that the community right now does not warrant an additional CR position.

Feel free to add me on Steam if you'd like to discuss more. Thank you!
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Windflower on December 01, 2018, 02:06:59 am
So is this not being continued ??
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Thunderstormer on December 01, 2018, 08:43:16 pm
next term will start in the new year.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Pickle on December 06, 2018, 08:31:22 pm
just remove NA CR and give herishey global mod
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Windflower on December 08, 2018, 12:00:56 am
just remove NA CR and give herishey global mod
bruh you are one to talk my god lol you did absolutely nothing with CR
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: William on December 08, 2018, 12:37:21 am
just remove NA CR and give herishey global mod
bruh you are one to talk my god lol you did absolutely nothing with CR
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/023/397/C-658VsXoAo3ovC.jpg)
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Herishey on December 09, 2018, 04:30:11 pm
just remove NA CR and give herishey global mod
let's go!
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Pickle on December 11, 2018, 04:19:20 am
just remove NA CR and give herishey global mod
bruh you are one to talk my god lol you did absolutely nothing with CR
bruh you are one to talk my god lol you did absolutely nothing with CR

NA CR is pretty much a mod with a lot less power
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Eamon on December 11, 2018, 03:15:52 pm
Does Hershey bar do anything
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Jayke on December 11, 2018, 04:19:32 pm
Does Hershey bar do anything
No
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Herishey on December 11, 2018, 04:46:53 pm
Does Hershey bar do anything
At this point most of what I do has become more moderation really apart from putting the odd suggestion forward to the Global Mods. There isn't a lot else I have power to do, apart from the odd bitch-fests I have to sort out on community threads.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Jakester on December 13, 2018, 04:19:42 am
Does Hershey bar do anything
At this point most of what I do has become more moderation really apart from putting the odd suggestion forward to the Global Mods. There isn't a lot else I have power to do, apart from the odd bitch-fests I have to sort out on community threads.
There really is not a lot of power given to CR's, when people message me to lock threads and delete posts I can do that, outside of that I help out when people ask me for assistance with teamspeaks or events or anything like that.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Pickle on December 13, 2018, 05:40:14 pm
NA CR should be replaced by an American Language Board Moderator position
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: ~Midnight~ on December 13, 2018, 05:49:16 pm
NA CR should be replaced by an American Language Board Moderator position
Our language can be hard to comprehend..
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Herishey on December 13, 2018, 07:54:31 pm
Sorry what did you say?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Eamon on December 14, 2018, 03:00:27 pm
NA CR should be replaced by an American Language Board Moderator position
Our language can be hard to comprehend..

I think he's trying to tell us something
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Windflower on December 16, 2018, 12:52:56 am
just remove NA CR and give herishey global mod
bruh you are one to talk my god lol you did absolutely nothing with CR
bruh you are one to talk my god lol you did absolutely nothing with CR

NA CR is pretty much a mod with a lot less power

No I was pretty helpful and also active as a CR unlike yourself and Cluele- oh wait nvm nobody ever liked him enough.. rip.

I think this next CR election is needed its time to make this forum rank on FSE GREAT again. No offense to Jakester pal but you have not been active on the forums at all..

it's a forum rank guys, FORUM RANK. Does not give you power to do anything in-game wise.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: NickyJ on December 16, 2018, 05:14:08 am
It's funny how after every election, each outgoing rep likes to take a moment to say "I was more active than [insert name here] and therefore a better rep". It's even funnier since the community operates exactly the same as it did 3 years ago.

I can count on one hand the number of achievements a community rep has actually pulled off. It was the breaking of the 63e siege server's hold on recruiting. So actually, I can count that on one finger.

And no, holding a duel/2v2 tournament does not count as an achievement. It counts as an event that literally anyone can host if they want to.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Windflower on December 16, 2018, 06:18:09 am
It's funny how after every election, each outgoing rep likes to take a moment to say "I was more active than [insert name here] and therefore a better rep". It's even funnier since the community operates exactly the same as it did 3 years ago.

I can count on one hand the number of achievements a community rep has actually pulled off. It was the breaking of the 63e siege server's hold on recruiting. So actually, I can count that on one finger.

And no, holding a duel/2v2 tournament does not count as an achievement. It counts as an event that literally anyone can host if they want to.
Are you're saying they aren't helpful?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Pickle on December 16, 2018, 06:23:12 am
NickyJ for American Language Moderator


just remove NA CR and give herishey global mod
bruh you are one to talk my god lol you did absolutely nothing with CR
bruh you are one to talk my god lol you did absolutely nothing with CR

NA CR is pretty much a mod with a lot less power

No I was pretty helpful and also active as a CR unlike yourself and Cluele- oh wait nvm nobody ever liked him enough.. rip.

I think this next CR election is needed its time to make this forum rank on FSE GREAT again. No offense to Jakester pal but you have not been active on the forums at all..

it's a forum rank guys, FORUM RANK. Does not give you power to do anything in-game wise.
You dink you were literally gone for your whole term and I'm not saying I did shit cuz I didn't except for get WPC their board and help ban some nerds but I was pretty active and constantly reported shit and moderated which is the only thing CR can do and they can barely moderate.

CR is not needed just give Herishey Global Mod and give Jakester a pat on the back for trying his best.


edit: junedragon was the only good NA CR
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Windflower on December 16, 2018, 06:25:32 am
NickyJ for American Language Moderator
Spoiler
just remove NA CR and give herishey global mod
bruh you are one to talk my god lol you did absolutely nothing with CR
bruh you are one to talk my god lol you did absolutely nothing with CR

NA CR is pretty much a mod with a lot less power

No I was pretty helpful and also active as a CR unlike yourself and Cluele- oh wait nvm nobody ever liked him enough.. rip.

I think this next CR election is needed its time to make this forum rank on FSE GREAT again. No offense to Jakester pal but you have not been active on the forums at all..

it's a forum rank guys, FORUM RANK. Does not give you power to do anything in-game wise.
[close]
You dink you were literally gone for your whole term and I'm not saying I did shit cuz I didn't except for get WPC their board and help ban some nerds but I was pretty active and constantly reported shit and moderated which is the only thing CR can do and they can barely moderate.

CR is not needed just give Herishey Global Mod and give Jakester a pat on the back for trying his best.
Last time I check 2 weeks is not my whole term lol good on you for over exaggerating that dickle. CR is helpful and it should be kept.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Pickle on December 16, 2018, 06:36:48 am
NickyJ for American Language Moderator
Spoiler
just remove NA CR and give herishey global mod
bruh you are one to talk my god lol you did absolutely nothing with CR
bruh you are one to talk my god lol you did absolutely nothing with CR

NA CR is pretty much a mod with a lot less power

No I was pretty helpful and also active as a CR unlike yourself and Cluele- oh wait nvm nobody ever liked him enough.. rip.

I think this next CR election is needed its time to make this forum rank on FSE GREAT again. No offense to Jakester pal but you have not been active on the forums at all..

it's a forum rank guys, FORUM RANK. Does not give you power to do anything in-game wise.
[close]
You dink you were literally gone for your whole term and I'm not saying I did shit cuz I didn't except for get WPC their board and help ban some nerds but I was pretty active and constantly reported shit and moderated which is the only thing CR can do and they can barely moderate.

CR is not needed just give Herishey Global Mod and give Jakester a pat on the back for trying his best.
Last time I check 2 weeks is not my whole term lol good on you for over exaggerating that dickle. CR is helpful and it should be kept.
Don't make me call you cockflower

Moderators/Board Moderators are helpful and CRs have the potential to be helpful like in the past but I think the parameters of CR should be revised to fit the community at this stage and if CR isn't going to be changed then just get rid of it.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Windflower on December 16, 2018, 06:47:12 am
NickyJ for American Language Moderator
Spoiler
just remove NA CR and give herishey global mod
bruh you are one to talk my god lol you did absolutely nothing with CR
bruh you are one to talk my god lol you did absolutely nothing with CR

NA CR is pretty much a mod with a lot less power

No I was pretty helpful and also active as a CR unlike yourself and Cluele- oh wait nvm nobody ever liked him enough.. rip.

I think this next CR election is needed its time to make this forum rank on FSE GREAT again. No offense to Jakester pal but you have not been active on the forums at all..

it's a forum rank guys, FORUM RANK. Does not give you power to do anything in-game wise.
[close]
You dink you were literally gone for your whole term and I'm not saying I did shit cuz I didn't except for get WPC their board and help ban some nerds but I was pretty active and constantly reported shit and moderated which is the only thing CR can do and they can barely moderate.

CR is not needed just give Herishey Global Mod and give Jakester a pat on the back for trying his best.
Last time I check 2 weeks is not my whole term lol good on you for over exaggerating that dickle. CR is helpful and it should be kept.
Don't make me call you cockflower

Moderators/Board Moderators are helpful and CRs have the potential to be helpful like in the past but I think the parameters of CR should be revised to fit the community at this stage and if CR isn't going to be changed then just get rid of it.
What do you feel needs to be changed about CRs?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Pickle on December 16, 2018, 06:55:40 am
NickyJ for American Language Moderator
Spoiler
just remove NA CR and give herishey global mod
bruh you are one to talk my god lol you did absolutely nothing with CR
bruh you are one to talk my god lol you did absolutely nothing with CR

NA CR is pretty much a mod with a lot less power

No I was pretty helpful and also active as a CR unlike yourself and Cluele- oh wait nvm nobody ever liked him enough.. rip.

I think this next CR election is needed its time to make this forum rank on FSE GREAT again. No offense to Jakester pal but you have not been active on the forums at all..

it's a forum rank guys, FORUM RANK. Does not give you power to do anything in-game wise.
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You dink you were literally gone for your whole term and I'm not saying I did shit cuz I didn't except for get WPC their board and help ban some nerds but I was pretty active and constantly reported shit and moderated which is the only thing CR can do and they can barely moderate.

CR is not needed just give Herishey Global Mod and give Jakester a pat on the back for trying his best.
Last time I check 2 weeks is not my whole term lol good on you for over exaggerating that dickle. CR is helpful and it should be kept.
Don't make me call you cockflower

Moderators/Board Moderators are helpful and CRs have the potential to be helpful like in the past but I think the parameters of CR should be revised to fit the community at this stage and if CR isn't going to be changed then just get rid of it.
What do you feel needs to be changed about CRs?
For one the term should be longer since the pool of acceptable candidates is at like 0 people per election(it seems like they're already doing this rn just maybe haven't made it official??)

Maybe even a different election system since it's too easy to win(idk what tho)

More power would be good(give warnings????)

Idk I don't have all the answers
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Windflower on December 16, 2018, 07:00:15 am
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NickyJ for American Language Moderator
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just remove NA CR and give herishey global mod
bruh you are one to talk my god lol you did absolutely nothing with CR
bruh you are one to talk my god lol you did absolutely nothing with CR

NA CR is pretty much a mod with a lot less power

No I was pretty helpful and also active as a CR unlike yourself and Cluele- oh wait nvm nobody ever liked him enough.. rip.

I think this next CR election is needed its time to make this forum rank on FSE GREAT again. No offense to Jakester pal but you have not been active on the forums at all..

it's a forum rank guys, FORUM RANK. Does not give you power to do anything in-game wise.
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You dink you were literally gone for your whole term and I'm not saying I did shit cuz I didn't except for get WPC their board and help ban some nerds but I was pretty active and constantly reported shit and moderated which is the only thing CR can do and they can barely moderate.

CR is not needed just give Herishey Global Mod and give Jakester a pat on the back for trying his best.
Last time I check 2 weeks is not my whole term lol good on you for over exaggerating that dickle. CR is helpful and it should be kept.
Don't make me call you cockflower

Moderators/Board Moderators are helpful and CRs have the potential to be helpful like in the past but I think the parameters of CR should be revised to fit the community at this stage and if CR isn't going to be changed then just get rid of it.
What do you feel needs to be changed about CRs?
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For one the term should be longer since the pool of acceptable candidates is at like 0 people per election(it seems like they're already doing this rn just maybe haven't made it official??)

Maybe even a different election system since it's too easy to win(idk what tho)

More power would be good(give warnings????)

Idk I don't have all the answers
Uhh I mean election system is fine terms were made longer I think and warnings not entirely necessary but prolly helpful. I mean if your giving input as a CR you are being helpful you don't necessarily have to accomplish an ambitious goal to be considered useful as a CR.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: |Viper| on December 16, 2018, 07:06:16 am
I’ve never understood the point of a Community Rep. Maybe I just don’t see a reason and all I see are Community Reps saying “I’ll do this I’ll do that!” When anyone can pretty much do the same things they can besides FSE Moderation and they usually don’t owe up to what they say they’re going to do at least on the NA side, I’m not sure about EU. I could be wrong though.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Fartknocker on December 16, 2018, 07:12:39 am
NW died with 63e Siege
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Wursti on December 16, 2018, 09:30:33 am
NW died with 84e Siege
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Jakester on December 16, 2018, 09:47:14 am
My experience as NA CR has been pretty simple:
1. I check the forums pretty much every day, and although I don't usually post anything I always check the moderation section of the forum and the NA regimental threads.
2. I check up on the mess hall and all the usual places the NA community posts, aswell as some EU or otherwise normal threads, and then hop off for the day.
3. Occasionally I have receive messages to lock threads, delete, or otherwise do something within my capability, in which case I do the requested action.
All of these are things I did normally as a forum user, except that I check the forums more often than I used to and #3 obviously.

There have been only 2 notable things I have dealt with on the forums was a minor dispute between Risk and Vetro about the name of a tournament thread, which after the fact was locked and not followed through with. If there is something that I could've done better, please let me know for the sake of all future CR's. Besides Pickle and Fartknocker, nobody really gave me any feedback on anything, and when I did some reflection on my term I realized that the community continued in it's standard way, and did not need any influence from me.

The second is that I have worked with the administration for some changes to the forum, and they asked for my input as an NA representative.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Siwi on December 16, 2018, 11:28:08 am
No reason to have CRs anymore, games done. When BCoF drops, and IF the player base comes back, then it makes sense to introduce them. At this point you’re just farting in a closet occupied by yourself
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Windflower on December 16, 2018, 05:48:06 pm
My experience as NA CR has been pretty simple:
1. I check the forums pretty much every day, and although I don't usually post anything I always check the moderation section of the forum and the NA regimental threads.
2. I check up on the mess hall and all the usual places the NA community posts, aswell as some EU or otherwise normal threads, and then hop off for the day.
3. Occasionally I have receive messages to lock threads, delete, or otherwise do something within my capability, in which case I do the requested action.
All of these are things I did normally as a forum user, except that I check the forums more often than I used to and #3 obviously.

There have been only 2 notable things I have dealt with on the forums was a minor dispute between Risk and Vetro about the name of a tournament thread, which after the fact was locked and not followed through with. If there is something that I could've done better, please let me know for the sake of all future CR's. Besides Pickle and Fartknocker, nobody really gave me any feedback on anything, and when I did some reflection on my term I realized that the community continued in it's standard way, and did not need any influence from me.

The second is that I have worked with the administration for some changes to the forum, and they asked for my input as an NA representative.
I wish you would put more effort/thought into being CR, moderated more, and been more vocal and used your influence for something. It seems you just waited for things to happen.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Herishey on December 16, 2018, 06:36:10 pm
I mean when I first started as CR like 3-4 terms ago I had quite a few ideas of what I wanted to try do. Once I put my initial ideas in motion it's limited really to what you can do. Of course it's still the more effort you put in the more you will get out of it but it's still pretty limited.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Windflower on December 16, 2018, 06:45:02 pm
I mean when I first started as CR like 3-4 terms ago I had quite a few ideas of what I wanted to try do. Once I put my initial ideas in motion it's limited really to what you can do. Of course it's still the more effort you put in the more you will get out of it but it's still pretty limited.
So what's your opinion on what should be changed about CRs/if they're useful/should they be removed etc.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Herishey on December 16, 2018, 06:48:41 pm
I mean when I first started as CR like 3-4 terms ago I had quite a few ideas of what I wanted to try do. Once I put my initial ideas in motion it's limited really to what you can do. Of course it's still the more effort you put in the more you will get out of it but it's still pretty limited.
So what's your opinion on what should be changed about CRs/if they're useful/should they be removed etc.
I mean yes I believe they still have a use but in reality no different a use to a normal moderator. So yes I believe they are useful but in reality they're no more powerful than a normal community member is generally speaking, we just have more access to see what the administration are doing around the forms and can help decide if that is a good idea or not.

I guess it's just a moderator that the community trusts as they voted for them.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Riddlez on December 16, 2018, 07:45:37 pm
What I can tell from my in total 3 terms as CR, most of the stuff you do is behind the scenes. I worked out a number of disputes between members. One or two times I did it on my own initiative, some other times people came to me.

Other forum users do not see this because it takes place on Steam or personal messages.

The rest of the work I did was either in the Moderation Board, where I voiced my opinion on a small number of moderator stuff. The rest was replying or solving forum reports. The cases I closed were usually the ones where it was too much overkill to have an administrator hand out mutes or warning levels, but enough of a warning that the activities stopped.

One of the more classic jobs CRs were installed for (in the eyes of the community) were to be mediators between the admin staff and the community. I think I saw a line in that regard crossed exactly once in my in total 6 months of CR, so that part of the job has pretty much gone stale. For the rest... I'd say keep it. With BCoF coming out sooner or later it's a system you'll want in place once this forum is going to start getting crowded again. You'll be one step ahead of the drama with a mature system in place.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Shadow on December 16, 2018, 08:28:53 pm
Appreciate the comments everyone.  A lot of you have hit on various points, and I appreciate the concerns raised by some of you.  Something that we all need to keep in mind is the original purpose of the CR in the first post of this thread - doesn't mean that it can't change/evolve, and hopefully you all have seen some of that.  We've added a longer duration, added some responsibilities in the "Off Topic" area, and are exploring other options.

I (as well as the rest of the team) intend to keep this a "fluid" role, with opportunities for the community to make it as wished.  The Administration's role is to, within reason, find ways to take your feedback and incorporate into what the future looks like for Community Representatives.

Please keep the constructive, intentional feedback coming, and continue being an active part in the election and support of the future CRs.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Herishey on December 16, 2018, 11:18:56 pm
What I can tell from my in total 3 terms as CR, most of the stuff you do is behind the scenes. I worked out a number of disputes between members. One or two times I did it on my own initiative, some other times people came to me.

Other forum users do not see this because it takes place on Steam or personal messages.
The first couple terms I was involved in some disputes as well but this appears to have gotten less over the last few months really, which in reality is good so not complaining there.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Jakester on December 17, 2018, 02:29:43 am
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My experience as NA CR has been pretty simple:
1. I check the forums pretty much every day, and although I don't usually post anything I always check the moderation section of the forum and the NA regimental threads.
2. I check up on the mess hall and all the usual places the NA community posts, aswell as some EU or otherwise normal threads, and then hop off for the day.
3. Occasionally I have receive messages to lock threads, delete, or otherwise do something within my capability, in which case I do the requested action.
All of these are things I did normally as a forum user, except that I check the forums more often than I used to and #3 obviously.

There have been only 2 notable things I have dealt with on the forums was a minor dispute between Risk and Vetro about the name of a tournament thread, which after the fact was locked and not followed through with. If there is something that I could've done better, please let me know for the sake of all future CR's. Besides Pickle and Fartknocker, nobody really gave me any feedback on anything, and when I did some reflection on my term I realized that the community continued in it's standard way, and did not need any influence from me.

The second is that I have worked with the administration for some changes to the forum, and they asked for my input as an NA representative.
I wish you would put more effort/thought into being CR, moderated more, and been more vocal and used your influence for something. It seems you just waited for things to happen.
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That is how I would see my term effectively going. I know the community is in a downturn of activity over the bigger time span, but the few times I talked to people about running events/creating more events it was always more of an in-game idea than forums based. This became especially true with the abandonment of the event I ran on Saturday in favor of a different rule set at the VB/15e event. The way I understood my responsibility as CR was to be there for problems or any mediation, which I was, but overall it has not been a turbulent term and as a result I just did what I though was expected of me. Thank you for the feedback Windflower!
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Eamon on December 18, 2018, 12:48:23 pm
It's disgusting that Herishey is stuck in a community rep position when he should be in a community rap position.

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Props go to em
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Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Herishey on December 18, 2018, 01:45:08 pm
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Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Duuring on December 24, 2018, 02:27:18 pm
I have to say, the post of CR really grew on itself.

When I originally thought of the position, it was really the mediating-role I had in mind. I thought and still think that to be a good moderator, one needs to be slightly detached from the community. It makes one more objective and also recognize that the individual moderator is there to enforce the rules. This created at least some resentment from the community, so I created the CR's to help create some community support. If the community understood better how and why we made decisions, if they had their own voice and if the CR could raise points that the moderators are simply unaware of, the forum could maybe become a slightly better place and keep some of its activity.

Now, one role I never thought they would play was the conflict-solving role between members. I have no idea how exactly this happened, but I did realized at some point this steadily became more and more important. When we discussed giving CR's moderating powers, it were the current CR's themselves (No idea who those were at the time) that argued against this, as this would change their role. And that's fine. I mean, if there is one thing I've learned as a Political Scientist, it's that these positions change naturally over time. To me, that just signals the position is making a difference and finding it's own best place.

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With BCoF coming out sooner or later it's a system you'll want in place once this forum is going to start getting crowded again. You'll be one step ahead of the drama with a mature system in place.

Pretty much nails it. Although obviously, I didn't expect BCoF to take this long. But then again, who did?
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 27, 2018, 02:21:54 am
Can we change the name from community representative to like community moderator or mediator or something like that. I feel like that would better discriptor of the role at the current moment. If the CR were to continue as a role I think it would work better with an actual community manager and with the proper resources that would come with said community manager. Like when I think representative I'm thinking great blots where we're trying to decide an issue or where a statement has to be made or like for a company supported event where a community member can take discussion points right to the source and get an answer.

Basically change the name yo
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Shadow on December 27, 2018, 03:09:25 am
Can we change the name from community representative to like community moderator or mediator or something like that. I feel like that would better discriptor of the role at the current moment. If the CR were to continue as a role I think it would work better with an actual community manager and with the proper resources that would come with said community manager. Like when I think representative I'm thinking great blots where we're trying to decide an issue or where a statement has to be made or like for a company supported event where a community member can take discussion points right to the source and get an answer.

Basically change the name yo

So it sounds like what you're saying is that you'd actually want to have a Community Manager, managing the Community Representatives?

I've also updated the poll, btw - so we can retake your feedback and get a more updated input :)
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on December 27, 2018, 03:31:42 am
Can we change the name from community representative to like community moderator or mediator or something like that. I feel like that would better discriptor of the role at the current moment. If the CR were to continue as a role I think it would work better with an actual community manager and with the proper resources that would come with said community manager. Like when I think representative I'm thinking great blots where we're trying to decide an issue or where a statement has to be made or like for a company supported event where a community member can take discussion points right to the source and get an answer.

Basically change the name yo

So it sounds like what you're saying is that you'd actually want to have a Community Manager, managing the Community Representatives?

I've also updated the poll, btw - so we can retake your feedback and get a more updated input :)
In my dreamscape I would like the CR role to be split into a community moderator and a community representive. The CM would continue in a similar role and CR would assist a community manager in both managing community-driven initiatives and to tell the community manager what the community favors. The community manager can then either direct or give resources towards an event or initiative.

So basically community manager is the sugar daddy, community rep gets the hoes and the community moderator is the police.
Title: Re: Opening Discussion Thread (with Poll)
Post by: Shadow on December 31, 2018, 05:44:40 pm
This is maybe something worth considering in the future, but will note your feedback so it can be discussed. Thanks for your input, Dan.

I'll say this is something similar to what was previously done, I believe.