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Historical Discussion / Re: Favourite Historical Alliance
« on: November 07, 2016, 12:24:05 am »Italy and austria before Italy swapped sides like kikeessssss
ww1 would of been so much more interesting with italy. CP could of won it
italy holds, austria pushes in balkans quicker and defeats serbia and romania quickly, helps germany with russia and the eastern front ends quickly.
w/e though
italy sucks.
Even if I don't like the side change, the one with austria and germany it was a defensive alliance, so Italy didn't have to follow them on war, in plus austria was the natural historical enemy of Italy (for the 3 battles of indipendence). Austria had defensive forts on the alps that weren't built in few days, but a lot before, because also them knew that the alliance was weak (for the reasons I've quoted before). Last Austria refused to offer to Italy some of their aim of the war on the table of the treaties before the war (and even Germany suggested them to do it), but they refused, while England and France offered the cities "Irridente", the ones that left for the complete unification of the italian state (propaganda pro-war was based on these topics).
You are wrong CP would lose, Italy would fall in a month to French army. There would be again Italian front (French (with "New Italy" support) vs Austro-Hungary). I did some studying on Italian front and Italian army was trash, they even lost 12th battle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Caporetto) in Slovenian it's called Miracle at Caporetto and front was moved to Piava in 1917.
Even if it's impossible to say, I'd say that the war between france and Italy would have been solved by the germans, because with the pression of the italian army on the alps, the french army should have split their forces, so Germany would have easily break into the french defensive line. Probably on the alps there would have been another trench war very static, because even as Carl Von Clausewitz wrote: “Attacking France from the Alps is just like try to lift a rifle by grabbing it from the tip of its bayonet".
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