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Re: Historical Military Blunders
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2013, 12:38:35 am »
Ah, yes. I think it's spelt Jalallabad, though there might well be several different spellings in the Latin alphabet. Not sure where I got Kandahar.
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Re: Historical Military Blunders
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2013, 12:41:59 am »
Battle of Ball's Bluff(1861)
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Re: Historical Military Blunders
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2013, 05:07:28 am »
Marye's Heights  :o

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Re: Historical Military Blunders
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2013, 06:27:53 am »
Battle of Gallipoli

Military defeats aren't blunders.

The blunder that always gets me is Boudica trapping herself and her army in with the Romans because they were so confident of victory. Damn wagons.

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Re: Historical Military Blunders
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2013, 03:10:31 pm »
Battle of Gallipoli

Military defeats aren't blunders.

The blunder that always gets me is Boudica trapping herself and her army in with the Romans because they were so confident of victory. Damn wagons.

Yes, but the Allies had too little supplies and thought they could just steam roll over the Turkish army, it was like the mistake Hitler did in ww2 I guess. (If I don't remember wrong)

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Re: Historical Military Blunders
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2013, 03:13:33 pm »
The Vietnam war, what a waste.

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« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2013, 03:32:43 pm »
The Vietnam war, what a waste.
That wasn't really a blunder, but it was a waste. We didn't come out any worse after the conflict and we kind of just decided to pull out because we didn't feel like defending the south Vietnamese anymore.

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« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2013, 04:06:33 pm »
We didn't come out any worse after the conflict

58,000 dead isn't worse off?

I feel that "oh, we don't feel like defending the southern vietnamese anymore, oh and yeah 58,000 confirmed dead." is a total blunder

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« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2013, 04:09:44 pm »
We didn't come out any worse after the conflict

58,000 dead isn't worse off?

I feel that "oh, we don't feel like defending the southern vietnamese anymore, oh and yeah 58,000 confirmed dead." is a total blunder

American and co. total dead: 430,538–714,564
Communist and co. total dead 451,462-1,166,462

Not a waste.

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« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2013, 04:53:45 pm »
So we should kill people because they believe in a different political system?

Vietnam wasn't a blunder, but a truly terrible event.

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« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2013, 04:55:33 pm »
So we should kill people because they believe in a different political system?

Vietnam wasn't a blunder, but a truly terrible event.
Last I checked the North Vietnamese, who were backed by the Chinese and the Russians were the aggressors in the situation, because, ya know, they invaded south vietnam.

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« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2013, 05:04:17 pm »
USA had to leave Vietnam because there was no public support of this battle. Atleast thats what they teach us in Norway  :P

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« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2013, 05:06:03 pm »
I still think the US and it's allies could have been a lot more careful during the whole operation. But alas, the tragedy is behind us.

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« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2013, 05:10:21 pm »
Vietnam was fairly tame compared to many other wars. Wars will never, ever end. You should be glad we live in the civilized society that we do now and stop complaining about every bit of violence in the world. It will never stop regardless of how much money you donate to charity, or often you go to Washington to protest.

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Re: Historical Military Blunders
« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2013, 05:13:44 pm »
Vietname War Topic now I see  8)

A decade prior to the start of the war, The United States had been a signatory to SEATO (Southeast Asia Treaty Organization), in which the U.S., France, Great Britain, New Zealand, Australia, the Philippines, Thailand, and Pakistan pledged to prevent communism from gaining ground and spreading in South Asia.  Lyndon B. Johnson saw two scenarios, do nothing and let North Vietnam control South Vietnam , and potentially allow communism to spread all over South Asia; OR interfere and ally with South Vietnam and potentially win the war to stop communism in that region.  But no matter how many troops L.B.J. sent, the US could not win the war as the North Vietnamese were too strong, and the US troops did not really have any morale as over 58,000 troops were killed.  Also back home, there were huge anti-war protests and people raging over innocent Vietnamese being killed (and sometimes raped) by American forces.  In terms of it being a blunder or not, it could have been a blunder militarily strategy wise, as we should have had way more intel on the amount of VietCong, tactics and all that; AND also that 2 years after in 1975, North Vietnam overran an unsuspecting South Vietnam and currently Vietnam is "communist", but its more socialist now; Once North Vietnam controlled the South, the South, corruption was wide spread and it didnt really pan out well.  So maybe military wise it was a blunder, but overall I believe it was just a waste, as the end result would have been the same (maybe with a less amount of communists), but yea.