Yep, its all politic stuff, also the signup thing was because of government wanted it well organized and signed up etc.Pulled this over from the lets discuss thread, only just saw it
its early, and will post more when I wake up fully,i cant even get the page to load,invalid link, but from what ive heard..its shit, and I currently dont know what im gonna do atm....
*tea and biscuit* how did you know ;)From what I hear it's asking travel details etc. I'm sorry but I have no idea when in the day I will be arriving or what time that day I will be going to one of the portaloos to take a shit! Add to that I will have a new shotgun and explosives license so they won't tally up either it bodes well for me.
Ye,got him on FB :)
Ye, I can see what they are trying to do I think, but the problem is also with the very idea of individual registration, we do that here, and it hardly works well with under 200 reenactors...And our questions are sensible atleast, from what ive heard on the various FB groups, the registration will be back up on 23rd, so we will have to see what gets changed etc.
The rego was apparently asking for alot of question that people dont have at the moment, especcially ones that internationals wont know, ye this is looking shit lol...
Red with little swastikas?Oh dear haha if they're asking for when I'm arriving and what time I intend to shit then most likely
That organizer is a bloody legend, Hoogstraten best organized event ever.Agreed it ran so well! Sensible times for battles, good living history and good down time. Only downside was space. If one tent had gone up in flames the entire camp was a goner
But yes, this thing is gona be a mess, only reason you will go is because its so big and so many reenactors, but if you will have that much fun, not entirely sure.
Ha. They'll probably just give a minimum due to 'safety' reasons.I remember 2011 my unit ended up with essentially 1.5kg per man per battle. Boy did we burn some powder that weekend!
They'll tell everyone to shave all facial hair for safety reasons
We once ran out of ammunition...frogs charged us..we presented, shouted fire, we all shouted BANG, le Poof!! and the french died..the public loved it, and we all couldnt stop laughing....heheI usually rounds complete. Feel it's a waste of good powder not to lol
What winds me up most is the whole VIP thing. These people really haven't given a shit in the past but it'll be a big PR event for them. I can just imagine it now, David Cameron giving a speech as to how all the British soldiers are an inspiration that should be looked upon by today's younger generations. When to be perfectly frank the young generation generally knows sweet FA about Waterloo and the Napoleonic wars in general because emphasis is put too much on the world wars, the Romans and the Tudors in British schools
. I can just imagine it now, David Cameron giving a speech as to how all the British soldiers are an inspiration that should be looked upon by today's younger generations.
Anglo centricity will be through the roof I expect next year from a few people, especially with Cornwell's upcoming book, which I intend to purchase in order to use it slowly as kindling and fuel for the fire!
The bit about snobby officers who don't give a fuck about the commoners sounds so much like politicians I'm surprised they've not registered to lead the armies haha. I can just imagine it now, David Cameron giving a speech as to how all the British soldiers are an inspiration that should be looked upon by today's younger generations.
Yeah, uneducated criminals in a uniform who are drunk 95% of the time, with snobby officers that don't give fucks about them, sure are a great inspiration to us all. :P
This is not looking good.
How did Gettysburg 150th(I think; late night = no maths+ no google) go. Did it have all this rubbish?
Anyone up for a meetup in france, then invade Belgium? Duuring you can lead the troops from the North in the Netherlands?
Anyway, its odd, because D Division (1st International, Aussie Allied etc) just got themselves registered today,70 people from Downunder all up lol :'( (not including 42nd etc as their in the Highland Brigade)
I dont get the battle at 8pm thing.The Belgians obviously! More specifically the Politicians who want it tucked out of the way at night so that they and all the VIPs can have their champagne dinner beforehand
That sounds horrible. Who would ever do that?
(brigade smaller than Division after all)Luckily we prussians only had Brigades (1 Brigade planned for Waterloo 2015)
Michael Haynes should be addressed as His Royal highness in the future ;)
I think there's currently going to be 4/5 "British" Brigades (Yeah yeah I know it's not just british but my brain isn't fully awake yet) The 3 usual suspects, A,B and C, then as Zac said there's D, and I'm sure I heard somewhere that some of the reeeeeeeeeeally anal british units are forming their own brigade as well(brigade smaller than Division after all)Luckily we prussians only had Brigades (1 Brigade planned for Waterloo 2015)
All in all we try to form a brigade :D
would be lovely to see the lights go forward as one and form a skirmish screen that stretches from the Lion Mound right across to the Wood by Hougoumont!You mean like this: ?
What I'm worried about is the event might just turn into a big queue with each unit waiting it's turn to fire a volley and then going to the back.
The problem is that they can do anything, and people will still come. Because it's bloody fekking Waterloo, who doesn't want to miss Waterloo 1815-2015? Hell, even if we have to sleep in the dirt and eat grass for dinner we would still come, because it's Waterloo.Veeeeeery true!
and the frenchies doesn't retreat...
Oi! We were told our brigade was supposed to stay on your side of the river to be cut off when the bridge blew! Your Austrian buddies refused to let us back over to fulfill our part of the script >:(
Exactly like that! unfortunately the some of the rifle regiments in the UK don't want to work together for political reasons..sigh.. so it'll never really happen :(would be lovely to see the lights go forward as one and form a skirmish screen that stretches from the Lion Mound right across to the Wood by Hougoumont!You mean like this: ?(https://abload.de/img/856838_3482930767433_bqchg.jpg)big picture of the light in line(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fecho.de%2FGruppen%2FBilder%2F9Franz-02-G.jpg&hash=3b4c977d9d5a0551eb33d92bdf57c7bda96b37ab)[close]What I'm worried about is the event might just turn into a big queue with each unit waiting it's turn to fire a volley and then going to the back.
I don't know how big a british brigade actually is, but refering to Leizpig, the fight above the bridge was very hard, because 3 brigades were there on a small part of the field, and the frenchies doesn't retreat...
To my mind, the fight on waterloo will be more static.
You can't do a unit sign up. Well, you could, but that would mean one guy would fill in all the individual registration forms which seems like an unnecessary amount of work.If the QM department are willing to do that, I'm not complaining! lol
It wouldn't be any less work, only more. You'd still have the give that guy all the information you'd fill in yourself.That's true, I think the reasoning behind it is so that the entire unit gets registered, rather than saying here's the link go do it... only for one person to say, I'll do it in a bit and then forgetting to do so
Then you have lazy members xDHaha I think every unit has them!
They haven't announced who's going to be napoleon or Wellington yet have they?
I've got an idea who Wellington will be. Met him at The Lord Mayors parade last year. Nice guy
Then better start siging up for ligny, cause you have to arrive then.Haven't found any information about program or registration, so I don't have a plan yet :D
Ligny can be done as a unit registration, Im in for it
Remember, it's only a pre-registration. God knows if anything is official. I'm just gonna pick a date at random and fuck them if they complain I'm a day too late or early.Exactly, most travel arrangements will be made closer to the time. I have no idea what day I'm going to be travelling (well I kind of do but it's subject to change) and I don't know the registration of the car I'll be in. All I know is that 1. I'll be there at some point, and 2. I'll be leaving at some point
The Belgian King is coming to watch, apparently.Belgium has a king? I know the Netherlands have a royal family but I wasn't aware Belgium did. ???
God damn Farbs. Belgium didn't exist back then! Gaaaaaaaaaaawd.
The Belgian King is coming to watch, apparently.Belgium has a king? I know the Netherlands have a royal family but I wasn't aware Belgium did. ???
God damn Farbs. Belgium didn't exist back then! Gaaaaaaaaaaawd.
Lol, i've never heard it called the Kingdom of Belgium. :PThe Belgian King is coming to watch, apparently.Belgium has a king? I know the Netherlands have a royal family but I wasn't aware Belgium did. ???
God damn Farbs. Belgium didn't exist back then! Gaaaaaaaaaaawd.
Yeah. That's why it's called the Kingdom of Belgium, genius :P They're the Saxen-Coburg dynasty.
An Open Letter to the chairmen of various associations: NA, NAN and NG
Gentlemen,
as a member of the NA, the NAN and the NG and having great concerns about the way some things for Waterloo 200 are handled by the belgian organisation and having heard many similair concerns from future participants from allover Europe I write youthis open Letter as I hope that only the main associations in cooperation can prevaile a failure
1. Campfollowers.
Many groups around the napoleonic reenactment have, although displaying military, female member, socalled "campfollowers". Members that pay their contribution same as the soldiers and doing a great part of the things that are done in a camp. Some even do things during the periods between events, such as sewing , repairing or taking care of the administration of their groups. They have the same rights and same duties within their groups.
Now the number of campfollowers is about to be restricted to 1 to10.
How can a group leave any of their members at home? By what right? Apart from this rule being discriminating, its also extremly injust. I cannot see any person having the right within an association to say: you and you can not come to Waterloo.
I ope you will be able to convince the belgian organizers to find a solution is such a way, that those who came all those years before can still come and add to camplife and the event as before.
2. The Battles
These are planned 2 times , both in the evening. I have the following concerns:
- When the weather is bad, as it has often been in June in Waterloo, it will be dark mch earlier then 22.00
- Many participants from the UK and europeen mainland will arrive the friday, due to work and real life. So they are to go into battle directly after a long drive, putting up tent and hastly making some supper.
- In the earlier events at Waterloo we had the chance of doing manoevering and drill before the battle.Which is important esp when we have new groups or groups that have never worked together earlier. Waterloo 200 we will have many from overseas countries with whome we have either never or hardly ever worked with together. Having the first battle already the friday evening gives the commanders no time at all to have their troups drilled or trained in the planned mix of european and oversees participants.
-What are the reenactors to do on the sunday? AsI fear most will leave, when from the continent, directly after breakfast, as there is nothing more for them to do, not all can afford a monday off, and the amount they maybe get as travell money is not yet clear and I have the experience that those that want to go, will leave. So visitors are confrontated with people carying their kit to the cars, and there is no camplife as promised in the programm.
We al know that the event is a costly one. And a part of the money will come from paying visitors.
Only , as far as many reenactors I speak are concerned, no where in the whole set up of the programm the needs of the reenactors ,who are pro deo actors with their own very expensive equipment, are regarded in the way it should be.
I have the hope that you, as presidents of your associations, in a combined action or meeting with the belgians, can have influence in such a way that matters will take a better course, now that there is still nearly a year tme to set things right.
As tis is an open letter I will post it within my group. Your answers will remain confidential ofcourse,
Kind regards
Donald Meulemans
Gordon Highlanders Grenadier Company
So many grammatical and spelling errors, it's not helping much.
Ofcource he is right but he could have explained some things better..
Also arriving on Friday is out of the question anyway, he might aswell not show up then.
Ofc, I took it seriously. We set up a 2nd camp. Next week. In front of the house of the organisations. And we wont go before they change everything we tell them to change!
I'm not a reenactor but i read a few pages ago that a/some pipeband(s) are coming to Waterloo 2015, does anyone have an idea what pipe bands that are (or if they're simply reenactors with pipes)? I'd maybe like to play with some of these pipe bands.
So apparently it turns out that each association will have a huge say in who attends next year. So that's a relief!
Allies is what it says: the allies. Which are British, KGL, Dutch, Belgians, Hannoverians, Nassau, Brunswickers....basically the whole lot that fought under Wellington at Quatre-Bras and Waterloo.Sure, but In fact why did they divide Allies and Prussians? Or should the Prussian play a big role 2015? ???
During the battle?Nah I think it would've been in camp... although during the battle would be fucking hilarious!!!
Spoiler(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg140.imageshack.us%2Fimg140%2F3396%2Fwaterloo1990024.jpg&hash=f47fdcec7647cbd33210cb48dfcb310b9176b108)[close]
So I found this picture from 1995 reenactment of Waterloo...Spoiler(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg140.imageshack.us%2Fimg140%2F3396%2Fwaterloo1990024.jpg&hash=f47fdcec7647cbd33210cb48dfcb310b9176b108)[close]
Is this how lay haye sainte will look like? If so, that is horrible... Especially considering that the real thing is just 1km away, in perfect condition.
It's the world most ignored monument.
Yep, and now they developed this "moral necessity" to invest a crapton of money into restoring the damned place. It would have been far cheaper to just maintain Hougoumont and give it a fresh 'coat of paint' every year or so.
But alas, no.
Blame the Belgian government for that. Or the Walloon. They allowed Hougoumont to fall into ruins, they didn't give fucks about Gemincourt in Quatre-Bras that's nearly fallen apart.Walloon government, the federal one doesnt bother with such affairs.
#Schneider2015