What is your Top 15 EU?

[Nosswill]

Name me one person who can sit at Ledger's table and tell him 'I am a more consistent NW player than you'. I will wait.

Moskito

No German in 2016-2019 even though we won NWWC in 2016  . You should also consider Gerher and Wolpi as some of the best players these couple of years.

[Tardet]

Moskito would be my second choice any time of the day if I had to pick another person however, I would argue his impact in 2016-2019 isn't as massive as Ledger's. It's up there, it's close, but be it PR, Poosy, TzO or even less serious teams such as Kittens or other, Ledger was always one of the hard carries despite playing alongside equally talented players, and he got the trophy cabinet coming with it.

As for the German team, I also noticed afterwards the lack of German players in 2016-2019 but I feel that NWWC 2016 left aside, the French superiority was simply way too obvious to not have all the aforementioned players within the list. It's also worth noting that unlike Fwuffy, Stark, Bagins or Golden, I don't know Gerher, Wolpi or even Tigere as good or didn't get the chance to watch them a lot. If I did, chances are they would be up there yes.

[Herishey]

2011-2015 Evanovic ClaSh Axiom Xeon Akame Lubukill JackieChan Moskito Mopin Rikimaru Ledger Eddie Vampyr Herishey Fatkoala [close] Worthy mention: Noswill, Jammo, Space, Flopz, Bessières, Draken

2016-2019 HaZe ExtaZz Tibérias Dren Troister Maharbaal Bagins Golden LeBrave Fwuffy Stark Ledger Rune Muha Python [close] Worthy mention: Fotin, Maurice, Hypno, Marquez

Name me one person who can sit at Ledger's table and tell him 'I am a more consistent NW player than you'. I will wait.

Awesome.

[Benallo]

2011-2015 Evanovic ClaSh Axiom Xeon Akame Lubukill JackieChan Moskito Mopin Rikimaru Ledger Eddie Vampyr Herishey Fatkoala [close] Worthy mention: Noswill, Jammo, Space, Flopz, Bessières, Draken

2016-2019 HaZe ExtaZz Tibérias Dren Troister Maharbaal Bagins Golden LeBrave Fwuffy Stark Ledger Rune Muha Python [close] Worthy mention: Fotin, Maurice, Hypno, Marquez

Name me one person who can sit at Ledger's table and tell him 'I am a more consistent NW player than you'. I will wait.

Awesome.

I'd have added Voluble in there.
Also Wolpi really deserves his place in your top 15. He won alot of tournament these 3 last years and showed us his skill. To me, if people like Rune or Muha are in this top 15, Wolpi should be here aswell. Anyway as you said you haven't seen him playing enough to judge him.

[Harford]

2011-2015 Evanovic ClaSh Axiom Xeon Akame Lubukill JackieChan Moskito Mopin Rikimaru Ledger Eddie Vampyr Herishey Fatkoala [close] Worthy mention: Noswill, Jammo, Space, Flopz, Bessières, Draken

2016-2019 HaZe ExtaZz Tibérias Dren Troister Maharbaal Bagins Golden LeBrave Fwuffy Stark Ledger Rune Muha Python [close] Worthy mention: Fotin, Maurice, Hypno, Marquez

Name me one person who can sit at Ledger's table and tell him 'I am a more consistent NW player than you'. I will wait.

lubukill, the only one who'd get mentionned in both inf and cav lists 

[Tournesol]

It is more like 2011-2013 for most of the 2011-2015 list in my opinion but ok

[Tardet]

I'd have added Voluble in there.
Also Wolpi really deserves his place in your top 15. He won alot of tournament these 3 last years and showed us his skill. To me, if people like Rune or Muha are in this top 15, Wolpi should be here aswell. Anyway as you said you haven't seen him playing enough to judge him.

Yeah, I think there is no denying that my top 15 of 2011-2015 will be somewhat more accurate than the 2016-2019, for obvious reasons. Even though I still think Rune is one of the best current players, it's still very recent and the fact he is a good friend probably makes me extremely biased on that. The same thing goes for Muha and Python, I know they became really good but they are still part of the players I have not watched a lot compared to the rest of the list. 

It is more like 2011-2013 for most of the 2011-2015 list in my opinion but ok

I would argue it could be renamed to 2011-2014 and 2015-2019. Pretty sure none of the players mentioned in the second list were near their peak form before 2015, with maybe yourself as the exception. For instance, LeBrave made it to FRA for the first time in 2015 while it was still under Lubu and Sinjide's leadership.

Edit: But I agree that end of 2014 - early 2015 was a period of transition between the old and the new gen.

Take it more as an 'If I had to make a 15 men line-up from 2011-2014 and 2015-2019, that's the players I would choose' because that's what I had in mind when I made this.

[Fungus]

 

[Herishey]

I'd have added Voluble in there.
Also Wolpi really deserves his place in your top 15. He won alot of tournament these 3 last years and showed us his skill. To me, if people like Rune or Muha are in this top 15, Wolpi should be here aswell. Anyway as you said you haven't seen him playing enough to judge him.

Yeah, I think there is no denying that my top 15 of 2011-2015 will be somewhat more accurate than the 2016-2019, for obvious reasons. Even though I still think Rune is one of the best current players, it's still very recent and the fact he is a good friend probably makes me extremely biased on that. The same thing goes for Muha and Python, I know they became really good but they are still part of the players I have not watched a lot compared to the rest of the list. 

It is more like 2011-2013 for most of the 2011-2015 list in my opinion but ok

I would argue it could be renamed to 2011-2014 and 2015-2019. Pretty sure none of the players mentioned in the second list were near their peak form before 2015, with maybe yourself as the exception. For instance, LeBrave made it to FRA for the first time in 2015 while it was still under Lubu and Sinjide's leadership.

Edit: But I agree that end of 2014 - early 2015 was a period of transition between the old and the new gen.

Take it more as an 'If I had to make a 15 men line-up from 2011-2014 and 2015-2019, that's the players I would choose' because that's what I had in mind when I made this.

I mean I'd say I didn't start to drop off until the start of 2017 really and didn't start to pick up fully until mid-late 2012. But yeah a few of the players in that list were quite short lived top players e.g. Akame.

[Shadey]

1. Bagins
2. Python
3. Golden
4. ExTaZz
5. Wolpi
6. Fwuffy
7. Voluble
8. DOMI
9. Ledger
10. Ivan
11. Anubis
12. Rikkert
13. Rune
14. Movement
15. Elsse

[Voluble123]

1. Bagins
2. Python
3. Golden
4. ExTaZz
5. Wolpi
6. Fwuffy
7. Owindd
8. DOMI
9. Ledger
10. Ivan
11. Anubis
12. Rikkert
13. Rune
14. Movement
15. Elsse

wtf i didnt play for tz0 u cant have me that high! corrected it for ux oxoxo

[Kore]

[ClaSh]

2011-2015 Evanovic ClaSh Axiom Xeon Akame Lubukill JackieChan Moskito Mopin Rikimaru Ledger Eddie Vampyr Herishey Fatkoala [close] Worthy mention: Noswill, Jammo, Space, Flopz, Bessières, Draken

2016-2019 HaZe ExtaZz Tibérias Dren Troister Maharbaal Bagins Golden LeBrave Fwuffy Stark Ledger Rune Muha Python [close] Worthy mention: Fotin, Maurice, Hypno, Marquez

Name me one person who can sit at Ledger's table and tell him 'I am a more consistent NW player than you'. I will wait.

Awesome.

[Fwuffy]

2011-2015 Evanovic ClaSh Axiom Xeon Akame Lubukill JackieChan Moskito Mopin Rikimaru Ledger Eddie Vampyr Herishey Fatkoala [close] Worthy mention: Noswill, Jammo, Space, Flopz, Bessières, Draken

2016-2019 HaZe ExtaZz Tibérias Dren Troister Maharbaal Bagins Golden LeBrave Fwuffy Stark Ledger Rune Muha Python [close] Worthy mention: Fotin, Maurice, Hypno, Marquez

Name me one person who can sit at Ledger's table and tell him 'I am a more consistent NW player than you'. I will wait.

Awesome.

You wish ^^

[Kore]

Dren

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