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Off Topic / Does Society Embrace, Tolerate, or Oppose Ignorance?

« on: October 23, 2013, 11:28:44 pm »

Hey everyone, does anyone else get the feeling that our society embraces/tolerates stupidity? (I'm coming from an American perspective)

In a recent debate, I had an opponent tell me that I "had not addressed his points" and that he "had won the argument". The catch is that he never made any points at all...but he received a standing ovation for his "victory". How does an uncited and unsupported argument achieve such a result?

It appears to me that American society at least has a tolerance for ignorance, if not the embracing of it in some areas (such as the Westboro Baptists).

What do you all think and why?

(I'm genuinely curious if this is just a series of unfortunate events or if other people are noticing this kind of trend)

EDIT: Sorry for the poor write-up. I've been up for 31 hours straight. Maybe when I wake up tomorrow I can fix this thread up.
I understand this is a really broad topic, but hopefully it'll spawn some interesting conversations. If not, I can always shut this thread down.

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Official Servers Bans & Unbans / BAN REQUEST: NA_1 (8/11/2013)

« on: August 12, 2013, 01:03:43 am »

Name of the server you were on: NA_1
Name of the person causing trouble: Tom_Fiddler
Nature of their offense: Teamkilling and leaving
Time and date of their offense: 6:32pm EST
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question: Victim
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!)

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1118302506571493226

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Name of the server you were on: NA_1
Name of the person causing trouble: Ur_Mum_[Fat]
Nature of their offense: Teamkilling and being kicked by server before I could punish
Time and date of their offense: 6:32pm EST
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question: Witness
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!)

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1118302506571498175

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Name of the server you were on: NA_1
Name of the person causing trouble: [6thBrg]53rd_Pvt_Cedric
Nature of their offense: Teamkilling and leaving
Time and date of their offense: 6:40pm EST
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question: Witness
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!)

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1118302506571525864

[close]

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Official Servers Bans & Unbans / BAN REQUEST: NA_1 (8/3/2013)

« on: August 03, 2013, 06:25:15 am »

Name of the server you were on: NW_Official_NA1
Name of the person causing trouble: Dwayne
Nature of their offense: Mass teamkilling at spawn, server kicked before I could punish adequately
Time and date of their offense: 12:00AM EST 8/3/2013
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question: Witness
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots:

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1118302506371329553

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Name of the server you were on: NW_Official_NA1
Name of the person causing trouble: TheManofGreece
Nature of their offense: Excessive teamkilling
Time and date of their offense: Between 9:15-9:30 pm EST 8/2/2013
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question: Witness
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots:

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1118302506371358799

[close]

Name of the server you were on: NW_Official_NA1
Name of the person causing trouble: 25th_Rct_Waynewool
Nature of their offense: Teamkilling and leaving
Time and date of their offense: 9:15 PM EST 8/2/2013
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question: Witness
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots:

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1118302506371365706

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Name of the server you were on: NW_Official_NA1
Name of the person causing trouble: Jack_of_Designs
Nature of their offense: Teamkilling intentionally (multiple counts), teamkilling and leaving
Time and date of their offense: 11:50 PM EST, 7/26/2013
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question: Victim
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots:

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1118302506371444253

[close]

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Official Servers Bans & Unbans / BAN REQUEST: NA_1 (7/23/2013)

« on: July 23, 2013, 09:31:38 pm »

Name of the server you were on: NA_1
Name of the person causing trouble:12e_SoD_Polar300
Nature of their offense: TKing and leaving
Time and date of their offense: 7/23/2013 at 3:20 pm EST
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question: Witness
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!)

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1119427114246123092

[close]

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Official Servers Bans & Unbans / BAN REQUEST: NA_1 (7/15/2013)

« on: July 15, 2013, 11:12:57 pm »

Name of the server you were on: NW_Official_NA_1
Name of the person causing trouble: 74e_Rec_BagPiperTavernBear
Nature of their offense: Premeditated TK and leaving
Time and date of their offense: 7/15/2013 at  12:35PM EST
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots.

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1119426502664634606

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Name of the server you were on: NW_Official_NA_1
Name of the person causing trouble: DaGreatChuck
Nature of their offense: TKing and leaving
Time and date of their offense: 7/15/2013 at  3:00PM EST
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots.

Spoiler

Screenshot isn't uploading, will try again later.

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Official Servers Bans & Unbans / BAN REQUEST: NA_1 (7/13/2013)

« on: July 14, 2013, 06:20:12 am »

Name of the server you were on: NW_Official_NA1
Name of the person causing trouble: VoodooChild
Nature of their offense: Multiple TK's (first punished, TK'd and left before second could be dealt with)
Time and date of their offense: 11:17 pm EST, 7/13/13
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question: Witness
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!):

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1119426502626864998

[close]

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Official Servers Bans & Unbans / BAN REQUEST: NA_1 (7/5/2013)

« on: July 06, 2013, 12:56:17 am »

Name of the server you were on : NA1
Person causing the trouble: Warnke
Nature of their offense: Teamkilling and leaving before I could punish
Time and date of their offense: 7/5/2013, 5:49 PM EST
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question.: witness
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!):

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1119425779149020987

[close]

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Official Servers Bans & Unbans / BAN REQUEST: NA_1 (7/1/2013)

« on: July 01, 2013, 11:56:22 pm »

Name of the server you were on-NA1
Name of the person causing trouble-Nyan_Koyote
Nature of their offense-TK and leaving
Time and date of their offense-3:35 PM EST 7/1/2013
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question.-Witness
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!)

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1117173524918575662

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Name of the server you were on-NA1
Name of the person causing trouble-Mr_Pink
Nature of their offense- Attempting to use chat glitch, homophobic and racial slurs, leaving before punishment
Time and date of their offense-Between 3:40 and 4:00 PM EST 7/1/2013
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question.-Witness
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!)

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1117173524918609772

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Name of the server you were on-NA1
Name of the person causing trouble- Evotras
Nature of their offense-TK at the end of round and leaving before punishment
Time and date of their offense-12:33 PM EST 7/1/2013
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question.-Witness
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!)

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1117173524918633556

[close]

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Official Servers Bans & Unbans / BAN REQUEST: NA_1 (6/30/2013)

« on: June 30, 2013, 07:38:33 am »

Name of the server you were on-NA1
Name of the person causing trouble-Flmostock
Nature of their offense-TK and leaving
Time and date of their offense-1:10 AM, 6/30/2013
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question.-Witness
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!)

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1117173524887009376

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Name of the server you were on-NA1
Name of the person causing trouble-21e_SB_Str_Aftistikos
Nature of their offense-TK and leaving
Time and date of their offense- 8:35PM EST , 6/30/2013
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question.-Witness
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!)

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1117173524903295717

[close]

Name of the server you were on-NA1
Name of the person causing trouble- Tabellion
Nature of their offense-TK and leaving
Time and date of their offense- 8:57 PM EST, 6/30/2013
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question.-Witness
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!)

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1117173524903320668

[close]

Name of the server you were on-NA1
Name of the person causing trouble- MagicBacon
Nature of their offense-TK and leaving
Time and date of their offense-  8:05PM EST, 6/30/2013
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question.-Witness
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!)

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1117173524903335441

[close]

Name of the server you were on-NA1
Name of the person causing trouble- TURK
Nature of their offense-TK and leaving
Time and date of their offense- 7:40 PM EST, 6/30/2013
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question.-Witness
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!)

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1117173524903352367

[close]

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Official Servers Bans & Unbans / BAN REQUEST: NA_1 (6/28/2013)

« on: June 29, 2013, 03:04:35 am »

Name of the server you were on: NA1
Name of the person causing trouble: 95KB_Pvt_Darth13ane
Nature of their offense: Intentional tking, and suicide
Time and date of their offense: 6/28/13   8:45 PM EST
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question: Witness
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!)

TK

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1117173524865381093

[close]

Suicide

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1117173524865398522

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Name of the server you were on: NA1
Name of the person causing trouble: 95KB_Pvt_TheDarkness
Nature of their offense: Intentional tking
Time and date of their offense: 6/28/13   8:45 PM EST
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question: Witness
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!)

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1117173524865381093

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Name of the server you were on: NA1
Name of the person causing trouble: Grovar
Nature of their offense: Intentional tking, leaving
Time and date of their offense: 6/28/13   8:55 PM EST
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question: Witness
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!)

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1117173524865428939

[close]

Name of the server you were on: NA1
Name of the person causing trouble: 1st_RGJ_Col_Wellington
Nature of their offense: Multiple TK's
Time and date of their offense: 6/28/13   8:50 PM EST
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question: Witness
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!)

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1117173524865441999

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While I believe the last was a set of intentional TK's, I'm also open to the possibility that the player is simply that bad.

Name of the server you were on: NA1
Name of the person causing trouble: VLADIMIR_LENIN
Nature of their offense: TKing and leaving
Time and date of their offense: 6/29/13   12:00 AM EST
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question: Witness
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!)

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1117173524868012796

[close]

Name of the server you were on: NA1
Name of the person causing trouble: New_Playa
Nature of their offense: Multiple TK's
Time and date of their offense: 6/29/13   12:35 AM EST
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question: Witness
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!)

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1117173524868029344

[close]

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Official Servers Bans & Unbans / BAN REQUEST: NA_1 (6/25/2013)

« on: June 26, 2013, 12:23:14 am »

Name of the server you were on: NA1
Name of the person causing trouble: 8th_CSG_8th_Rec_BBDavid
Nature of their offense: Intentional TK (multiple occurances, only one image)
Time and date of their offense: 12:30 AM (6/25/2013)
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question:Witness 
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!)

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1117173250610591674

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Name of the server you were on: NA1
Name of the person causing trouble: [12th]Rgl_Datbear
Nature of their offense: Intentional TK
Time and date of their offense: 12:30 AM (6/25/2013)
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question:Witness 
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!)

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1117173250610621546

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-As a note, the individual who was TK'd (Frank) repeatedly teamwounded the individual in question. While this does not condone the TK, it may be this that brought the intentional TK about.

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Official Servers Bans & Unbans / BAN REQUEST: NA_1 (6/22/2013)

« on: June 22, 2013, 09:33:55 pm »

Name of the server you were on - NA 1
Name of the person causing trouble -
Nature of their offense - TK and leaving
Time and date of their offense - 6/22/2013, 2:00PM EST
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question. - Witness

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1119424760934304628

[close]

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Official Servers Bans & Unbans / BAN REQUEST: NA_1 (6/13/2013)

« on: June 14, 2013, 05:57:45 am »

Name of the server you were on: NA_1
Name of the person causing trouble: bofetty
Nature of their offense: Mass TK
Time and date of their offense: 10:05 PM EST, 6/13/2013
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question:Witness
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!)

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1118298066245089950

[close]

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Official Servers Bans & Unbans / BAN REQUEST: NA_1 (6/12/2013)

« on: June 13, 2013, 12:47:57 am »

Name of the server you were on- NA1
•   Name of the person causing trouble- La_Liberadora
•   Nature of their offense- Attempted TK (forced to kill in self-defense)
•   Time and date of their offense- June 12, 2013, 6:05 PM EST
•   If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question.- Victim
•   Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!)

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1117171628375332061

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Name of the server you were on- NA1
•   Name of the person causing trouble- 22nd_Foot_Pvt_Laurits
•   Nature of their offense- Teamkilling horses
•   Time and date of their offense- June 12, 2013, 6:05 PM EST
•   If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question.- Victim
•   Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!)

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1117171628375346806

[close]

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Official Servers Bans & Unbans / BAN REQUEST: NA_1 (6/10/2013)

« on: June 11, 2013, 04:03:07 am »

Name of the server you were on: NA_1
Name of the person causing trouble: 95KB_Cpl_Redrum
Nature of their offense: Intentional TKs
Time and date of their offense: 10:00 PM EST
If needed, what your relationship was to the offense in question.: Victim, witness
Any proof if you have it, For instance screenshots. (use spoilers!):

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1117171628341414565

[close]

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1117171628341419069

[close]

Defensive TK

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1117171628341423440

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Final TK before leaving the server

Spoiler

https://steamcommunity.com/id/TIOM/screenshot/1117171628341429511

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I also admit that I was forced to TK him once as well, lest we lose our virtual lives (due to a lack of administrators online at the time). Not proud of it, but you'll find that in the logs as well. A TK in self defense (after he came after me and the survivor in the final image).