The weebs are being persecuted. We demand representation
ghost of drama past
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there's also a reason why taleworlds forums are dead as shit with literally 0 discussion, seriously. FSE forums have always been 1000x more active and entertaining than taleworlds, because lists give something for players to talk about and argue over. its fun and keeps people around
K. I know you saw my messages on steam, I know you saw my post asking you to unlock my thread, I know you locked my thread before even talking to me, and I know Russian asked you to unlock it as well. Yet here we are.Okay, someone’s a bit salty. Take a step back.Here is my Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/id/pockle/) feel free to add me to discuss anything.
If any of you have any suggestions or concerns please post them here or message me on Steam so we can discuss them.
Don't make me fucking laugh.
Not even CR for a whole week and you are doing an awful job at it, and I can't begin to understate how disappointed I am in you. Shutting down community discussion the moment things get somewhat heated? Great. That'll definitely serve to help keep this community healthy...NOT. See, avoiding conflict doesn't solve it. That is why drama over a year old is still being brought the fuck up. You know what closing a thread will do? Make sure that drama keeps coming up along with shutting down community discussion and only help to make these forums die. Grimsight put it best:there's also a reason why taleworlds forums are dead as shit with literally 0 discussion, seriously. FSE forums have always been 1000x more active and entertaining than taleworlds, because lists give something for players to talk about and argue over. its fun and keeps people around
See, even in 2016, if a regimental thread wasn't bumped at least one or so a day, it would fall of the first page. Nowadays? Regimental threads can go days without posts and still stay on the 1st page. That was unthinkable in 2016, and I thought the game and the forums were dead enough then. The only bastion left for discussion on these forums is really the mess hall, and all these lists...and you saw fit to lock one because it got a little heated.
Did you run for CR to play mod? You seemed pretty quick to use mod powers without even talking to the community. You know, back when I was more active on the forums, I had enough problems with the mods on the forums, but you, a fucking CR, have managed to out-do them. Congratulations.
i like thunder and shadowThey're fucking fantastic mods.
im just curious has pickle actually responded to you at all? i steamed him last night and he just ignored it
Someone's abit salty
Take a step back
1. It’s one locked thread - that has stopped the flame (didn’t spread to other threads - which means it’s not really a strong flame)
2. No one, to my knowledge, received warning points, apart from Suns (and I don’t know what for)
3. You’re not one to talk about keeping the community healthy. Pickle was here last year. What were you doing for the community then?
4. Welcome back to FSE. Did you see the mods changed? The ban lists cleared? Duuring and Marks deposed? Sorry, Apoc, mod wars are over, NA’s last mod that does things on the ground is Thunder, and he doesn’t have up to date knowledge of the comp scene, so yeah, the CR is elected to be mod in NA now.
5. If it’s been a week and you’re already disappointed, that’s because your expectations were too high to be relevant or you started out disappointed. Why didn’t you run?
6. Saying locking one thread is worse than the mod wars is such a bizarrely stupid statement, and it’s disappointing coming from someone like you who actually saw first hand the bad mods. I got banned for quoting your deleted post. Anyone been banned yet? No? Has Pickle showed political predjudice? No? So how in the fuck is he already worse than the mod hell we fought through?
Idk what kind of a whim you wrote this on, but get off it.
wew lad
K. I know you saw my messages on steam, I know you saw my post asking you to unlock my thread, I know you locked my thread before even talking to me, and I know Russian asked you to unlock it as well. Yet here we are.I responded to you when you asked why I locked your thread. I stopped replying when you went on a rant insulting me and demanding things from me. I would be more than happy to have an actual discussion to work our issues out but I'm not going to engage in pointless back and fourth banter. I'm sorry for locking your thread without talking to you first but that drama did not need to be dredged up and many community members felt the same way including the people who first reported the drama to me and some of the people who were involved in the original incident who didn't want to relive what already happened and what they had already put in their past.
I don't mind the banter but I do mind the personal attacks which have no place on this forum and that includes the Mess Hall.
Not even CR for a whole week and you are doing an awful job at it, and I can't begin to understate how disappointed I am in you. Shutting down community discussion the moment things get somewhat heated? Great. That'll definitely serve to help keep this community healthy...NOT. See, avoiding conflict doesn't solve it. That is why drama over a year old is still being brought the fuck up. You know what closing a thread will do? Make sure that drama keeps coming up along with shutting down community discussion and only help to make these forums die. Grimsight put it best:there's also a reason why taleworlds forums are dead as shit with literally 0 discussion, seriously. FSE forums have always been 1000x more active and entertaining than taleworlds, because lists give something for players to talk about and argue over. its fun and keeps people around
See, even in 2016, if a regimental thread wasn't bumped at least one or so a day, it would fall of the first page. Nowadays? Regimental threads can go days without posts and still stay on the 1st page. That was unthinkable in 2016, and I thought the game and the forums were dead enough then. The only bastion left for discussion on these forums is really the mess hall, and all these lists...and you saw fit to lock one because it got a little heated.
Did you run for CR to play mod? You seemed pretty quick to use mod powers without even talking to the community. You know, back when I was more active on the forums, I had enough problems with the mods on the forums, but you, a fucking CR, have managed to out-do them. Congratulations.
im just curious has pickle actually responded to you at all? i steamed him last night and he just ignored itI did respond to Apoc when he initially messaged me and when I unlocked his thread but I did not respond to his angry banter.
Well, as he said, maybe you would have received a better dialogue had you not escalated it in the first place by over reacting.
Well did you insult him and make demands as he said?
So what you’re saying is that you expected reasonable responses when you couldn’t remain reasonable yourself? Don’t insult a man whose help you need, it won’t end well.
And now you’re thread is unlocked. Whatever the interpretation of what went on in that thread, you still went about getting what you wanted in the wrong fashion. You’re way too quick to aggression and confrontation. Maybe if you reigned that in a little bit then the whole situation would have been ironed out much smoother.
It’s quite easy to not be confrontational and angry. Remember when I locked both 3e and LG threads? Both times I didn’t tell you beforehand, and both regiments weren’t confrontational about it.And now you’re thread is unlocked. Whatever the interpretation of what went on in that thread, you still went about getting what you wanted in the wrong fashion. You’re way too quick to aggression and confrontation. Maybe if you reigned that in a little bit then the whole situation would have been ironed out much smoother.
Meh, CR's shouldn't be going around locking peoples threads without talking to them in the first place though.
I don't know how you can do that and expect someone to not react confrontationally.
I mean, my thread was unlocked, and I hope Pickle has learned his lesson about talking to people first before exercising his mod powers. I think that is about as smooth as it could have gone, and was the outcome I expected when I chose to escalate it. If you think it could have reached the same result through other means, that's literally just speculation on your part. I did it my way, and as far as I see it, my way reached the outcome I wanted.And made you look like a madman in the process. It certainly wasn’t public pressure that made Pickle unlock the thread, but claim victory if you want to!
It’s quite easy to not be confrontational and angry. Remember when I locked both 3e and LG threads? Both times I didn’t tell you beforehand, and both regiments weren’t confrontational about it.And now you’re thread is unlocked. Whatever the interpretation of what went on in that thread, you still went about getting what you wanted in the wrong fashion. You’re way too quick to aggression and confrontation. Maybe if you reigned that in a little bit then the whole situation would have been ironed out much smoother.
Meh, CR's shouldn't be going around locking peoples threads without talking to them in the first place though.
I don't know how you can do that and expect someone to not react confrontationally.
It’s better than what the mods used to do - which was delete posts and mute people.I mean, my thread was unlocked, and I hope Pickle has learned his lesson about talking to people first before exercising his mod powers. I think that is about as smooth as it could have gone, and was the outcome I expected when I chose to escalate it. If you think it could have reached the same result through other means, that's literally just speculation on your part. I did it my way, and as far as I see it, my way reached the outcome I wanted.And made you look like a madman in the process. It certainly wasn’t public pressure that made Pickle unlock the thread, but claim victory if you want to!
It’s quite easy to not be confrontational and angry. Remember when I locked both 3e and LG threads? Both times I didn’t tell you beforehand, and both regiments weren’t confrontational about it.And now you’re thread is unlocked. Whatever the interpretation of what went on in that thread, you still went about getting what you wanted in the wrong fashion. You’re way too quick to aggression and confrontation. Maybe if you reigned that in a little bit then the whole situation would have been ironed out much smoother.
Meh, CR's shouldn't be going around locking peoples threads without talking to them in the first place though.
I don't know how you can do that and expect someone to not react confrontationally.
It’s better than what the mods used to do - which was delete posts and mute people.I mean, my thread was unlocked, and I hope Pickle has learned his lesson about talking to people first before exercising his mod powers. I think that is about as smooth as it could have gone, and was the outcome I expected when I chose to escalate it. If you think it could have reached the same result through other means, that's literally just speculation on your part. I did it my way, and as far as I see it, my way reached the outcome I wanted.And made you look like a madman in the process. It certainly wasn’t public pressure that made Pickle unlock the thread, but claim victory if you want to!
I actually don't remember when you did that tbh. But if I wasn't confrontational about it, it's probably because I didn't care (also prob why I don't remember it).
If pickle were to hop over to the 98e thread right now and lock it, I would probably get (very) confrontational about that.
Ik. Doesn't really change anything.I used you as in "you all" referencing Russian, Asian, Vortex and WasteSpoilerIt’s quite easy to not be confrontational and angry. Remember when I locked both 3e and LG threads? Both times I didn’t tell you beforehand, and both regiments weren’t confrontational about it.And now you’re thread is unlocked. Whatever the interpretation of what went on in that thread, you still went about getting what you wanted in the wrong fashion. You’re way too quick to aggression and confrontation. Maybe if you reigned that in a little bit then the whole situation would have been ironed out much smoother.
Meh, CR's shouldn't be going around locking peoples threads without talking to them in the first place though.
I don't know how you can do that and expect someone to not react confrontationally.
It’s better than what the mods used to do - which was delete posts and mute people.I mean, my thread was unlocked, and I hope Pickle has learned his lesson about talking to people first before exercising his mod powers. I think that is about as smooth as it could have gone, and was the outcome I expected when I chose to escalate it. If you think it could have reached the same result through other means, that's literally just speculation on your part. I did it my way, and as far as I see it, my way reached the outcome I wanted.And made you look like a madman in the process. It certainly wasn’t public pressure that made Pickle unlock the thread, but claim victory if you want to!
I actually don't remember when you did that tbh. But if I wasn't confrontational about it, it's probably because I didn't care (also prob why I don't remember it).
If pickle were to hop over to the 98e thread right now and lock it, I would probably get (very) confrontational about that.[close]
I don't wonder why the NA community is so full of drama. I'm not deaf. Almost everyone is toxic. Including me. Fuck your manners, I don't want to act 'better'. I'm not one for looking down on people just because I act better than them. Because at the end of the day, acting is just acting. I was wondering what the hell your goal was this whole time, and if it was to shame me, you are absolutely wasting your time, because I really couldn't care less what you think of me.If you call me smart one more time I'm going gay for you
I think you’ve just proven my point nicely.
Only somebody who is lacking in a certain aspect cannot believe that somebody else has it.I think you’ve just proven my point nicely.
Yep. I would say that I am sorry that the way I go about things hurts your feelings, but unlike you, I don't like fake acting for the sake of manners.
Thanks babe that’s why EU bond is always strongWhat a large man you are.
Seriously though. All it takes is a little friendliness and everyone gets along great and can sort things out ten times easier
I’m just above average height so not reallyThanks babe that’s why EU bond is always strongWhat a large man you are.
Seriously though. All it takes is a little friendliness and everyone gets along great and can sort things out ten times easier
I want to do a 200 man Full Invasion event, can you help me spread the word and coordinate it? CoOP? or PvP?
I want to do a 200 man Full Invasion event, can you help me spread the word and coordinate it? CoOP? or PvP?
Coop for FI2 is fun
I want to do a 200 man Full Invasion event, can you help me spread the word and coordinate it? CoOP? or PvP?I will gladly attend this papa
EUs welcome for a full invasion event?Anyone is welcome.
That event is the true savior of NW ^
yeah that is gonna be a solid NOThat event is the true savior of NW ^
Next I plan to do a holdfast event.
i was talking about Dans tournament.That event is the true savior of NW ^
Next I plan to do a holdfast event.
yeah that is gonna be a solid NOThat event is the true savior of NW ^
Next I plan to do a holdfast event.
i was talking about Dans tournament.That event is the true savior of NW ^
Next I plan to do a holdfast event.
Holdfast is something I don’t plan on ever buying
can we make a poll to kick fse and get a developer who cares about the gameTodd Howard is on the case.
can we make a poll to kick fse and get a developer who cares about the game
I'll prolly run again I mean I think I did pretty good the first time around despite a couple weeks of inactivityI will vote for ya WeastFlower
Appreciate yaI'll prolly run again I mean I think I did pretty good the first time around despite a couple weeks of inactivityI will vote for ya WeastFlower
At least we will know the game is truly dead if you get reelectedAppreciate yaI'll prolly run again I mean I think I did pretty good the first time around despite a couple weeks of inactivityI will vote for ya WeastFlower
At least we will know the game is truly dead if you get reelectedAppreciate yaI'll prolly run again I mean I think I did pretty good the first time around despite a couple weeks of inactivityI will vote for ya WeastFlower
I was CR twice so that's kind of a dumb dumb thing to sayAt least we will know the game is truly dead if you get reelectedAppreciate yaI'll prolly run again I mean I think I did pretty good the first time around despite a couple weeks of inactivityI will vote for ya WeastFlower
Imagine not playing the game in two months and thinking you’d be a good CR
Imagine not playing the game in two months and thinking you’d be a good CRyou right but I uhh actually got a computer again so ya I'm going to start playing the game itself again
Imagine not playing the game in two months and thinking you’d be a good CRyou right but I uhh actually got a computer again so ya I'm going to start playing the game itself again
yeImagine not playing the game in two months and thinking you’d be a good CRyou right but I uhh actually got a computer again so ya I'm going to start playing the game itself again
what are you gey?
yeImagine not playing the game in two months and thinking you’d be a good CRyou right but I uhh actually got a computer again so ya I'm going to start playing the game itself again
what are you gey?
video games are probably the biggest waste of time in anybodies life but i can't stop wasting enough of it, i need to fast forward my life rn by like 3 years.
I have been on business trips during the past few weeks.Could have let people know
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problem is pubs don’t wanna play comp cause they’d get shit ongetting shit on is never fun
blame bbg/15e for killing comp
problem is pubs don’t wanna play comp cause they’d get shit ongetting shit on is never fun
blame bbg/15e for killing comp
Blaming the 15e/bbg is kinda dumb
problem is pubs don’t wanna play comp cause they’d get shit ongetting shit on is never fun
blame bbg/15e for killing comp
Blaming the 15e/bbg is kinda dumb
I don’t know why you ignorantly blame the BBG for the state of competitive in NW. NW has been on a dying path for years, and the competitive side of the community is simply unsustainable with the majority of incoming or remaining players simply want to play the game for the games sake, no large tournaments or 1v1s. So many regiments have taken this path of going casual, HRE, LIR, 87th, 15e, 2ndHan, 6teSLR, and more - simply as a testament to the change of NW. so please, do not blame the 15e or BBG, and accept that the very nature of NW has changed from competitive to casual.
1. Addressed to Uni. I mean to be completely unbiased refusing to do competitive with the largest regiment in NA is kindia stupid.problem is pubs don’t wanna play comp cause they’d get shit ongetting shit on is never fun
blame bbg/15e for killing comp
Blaming the 15e/bbg is kinda dumb
I don’t know why you ignorantly blame the BBG for the state of competitive in NW. NW has been on a dying path for years, and the competitive side of the community is simply unsustainable with the majority of incoming or remaining players simply want to play the game for the games sake, no large tournaments or 1v1s. So many regiments have taken this path of going casual, HRE, LIR, 87th, 15e, 2ndHan, 6teSLR, and more - simply as a testament to the change of NW. so please, do not blame the 15e or BBG, and accept that the very nature of NW has changed from competitive to casual.
If anything the current hardcore competitive players can blame themselves. Comp is way too toxic for most people to actually enjoy lmao.
problem is pubs don’t wanna play comp cause they’d get shit ongetting shit on is never fun
blame bbg/15e for killing comp
Blaming the 15e/bbg is kinda dumb
exactly. It’s all the 63es faultproblem is pubs don’t wanna play comp cause they’d get shit ongetting shit on is never fun
blame bbg/15e for killing comp
Blaming the 15e/bbg is kinda dumb
I mean weren't you one of the ones doing the same thing blaming 63e for killing the community a year or so back?
Lol good luck jakesterThank you.
Well here is my rant. CR honestly is not a hard job because the forums stuff like discussing fse topics, muting or banning people, and moderating your section of the forums isn't that hard. The only hard part is having a impact in changing the community since there isn't much a CR can do anymore since NA comp scene is almost dead and linebattle scene is okay. I agree with Wind & Herishey that anyone who said they can make a "major" impact to the community during their term is retarded since very few CRs has made a "major" impact in EU or NA.
1.) Wind I get you are trying to get more casual people to use FSE since most of the NA active guys on the forums are the comp players. However, I tried that in 2016 with multiple people in 2eChef, Weast, and 61e and had little success. It is hard to convince those casual players to use the forums when the only reason they could use it is for off topic stuff, officers requesting units for an event, or posting on their regiment's thread since they have no reason to post on tournament threads. So it is useless for casual players to really get on forums unless they want to socialize with the community. If you want to try it then go and good luck.
2.) The Comp scene is dead which hurt the NA community quite a bit since the really active players in the NA community and the forums are the comp players. There are many reasons why it is dead but I believe one of the main factor is that after NANWL S6 comp regiments didn't do a good job of trying to bring new players to the competitive scene (correct me if I am wrong). After NAPL the comp scene was on its last legs before Irish and I (Fair to say) revived the comp scene back by making our regiments and brought new or older players back to the community. The other main factor is bandwagons. I know bandwagons has been going on since 71st started the trend in 2014 (correct me if I am wrong) but look what happen when bandwagons were around. 58e was the only really league 1 regiment around besides 63e with help from 71st players to boast their melee skills to even give them a chance. Another example is 2017 when 3e reformed after 6te disbanded and the only two real league 1 regiments were LG and 3e. We had no balance in the community and honestly the worst competition we had in NA league wise since S5. Shit it was hard in NANWL S7 & 8 to pick regiments in either league because there was such a skill gap between league 1 & 2 regiments because every good player wanted to join the best melee regiments available out there. Of course there are other reasons like people getting bored, having a life, etc. My point for this is that people inability to bring many people back or new players to the comp scene and bandwagons is part of the reason why the NA comp scene is dead today.
3.) This pissed me off the most to see but in NA we have the same damn event Mon, Tues, and Thurs-Sat. What i mean is that on those days regiments host the basic linebattle of line arty, skirms, and cav. The only other type of event NA has is a Siege event the 54th host every Sunday. We need variety of events in NA instead of the same stupid basic ass linebattle that for some reason people keep playing 4 times a week. I am sure others will agree with me that we need different types of events like Conquest, Line Only, historic events, or 2v2/3v3 events. I talked to pubs beginning of this years about joining 93rd for my casual line and some of them told me no because of the fact that they always go to the same event every week which gets very repetitive & boring. Overall, I just want people hosting events to mix it up for once and give a new event that is different from the ones we are already hosting 5 times a week.
4.) In my opinion to be a CR you would need to have some connections in both the comp & casual regiments in order to hear about possible issues in those parts of the community. To be fair I haven't really been in involved in the causal scene since 2eChef died in 2016 but I still have connections with leaders of causal regiments & armies which you guys should have as well if you don't already. Jake and Uni has huge connections to the casual scene compared to you guys. My point about this topic is that a CR that is suppose to watch and listen to the NA community should know the casual and comp scene somewhat.
Sorry for this long rant but I just felt like addressing stuff from the past and present from my prespective since I been in the casual and comp scene for quite some time. I moved this from the voting booth to here so some of my points is off of what Wind or Theo said in the voting booth thread.
Congrats Jake! gl with CR 8)Thank you! The numbers on the steam charts do confirm a dying player base as we all know, the decrease however is slight and not steady. There are surges of players that have made increases, and for those interested can see here: https://steamcharts.com/app/48700#3m
also I would say, to add on to NickCole, that you can host more events, try to get more regs in comp, do whaetever...but the fact is that you can do all of that and still struggle. It's dying because of player base. Events are big because of regiments and regiments are big because of members, which leads to recruiting. There is like no one to recruit, besides the few familiar pubs you might see a few nights or whatever on the populated servers; but they don't join regiments, they just play on the server just to play nw and play a game. You can try to do all that but it would be incredibly hard.Iif the game had more (and a lot more) players that played actively, joined regiments, tried to get good at melee, joined the community, etc. then it would be fine to host a lot more events and tournaments. but it's 2018 and the game is dying and slowing down more than ever (even the comp scene).
I would say for the cr now, to just do what they can. And I get that's not saying a lot, but it's all they can do. Just trying to moderate, push people to host more events/tournaments, or whatever else they have planned.
Lol good luck jakesterThank you.
reserved, making a formal post later tonight.
I'll just continue to use this thread, no point in making another since lots of good discourse happening.Thank you for these types of rants. If nobody says anything, there is nothing to do whether you're CR or not.nick cole's paragraphsWell here is my rant. CR honestly is not a hard job because the forums stuff like discussing fse topics, muting or banning people, and moderating your section of the forums isn't that hard. The only hard part is having a impact in changing the community since there isn't much a CR can do anymore since NA comp scene is almost dead and linebattle scene is okay. I agree with Wind & Herishey that anyone who said they can make a "major" impact to the community during their term is retarded since very few CRs has made a "major" impact in EU or NA.
1.) Wind I get you are trying to get more casual people to use FSE since most of the NA active guys on the forums are the comp players. However, I tried that in 2016 with multiple people in 2eChef, Weast, and 61e and had little success. It is hard to convince those casual players to use the forums when the only reason they could use it is for off topic stuff, officers requesting units for an event, or posting on their regiment's thread since they have no reason to post on tournament threads. So it is useless for casual players to really get on forums unless they want to socialize with the community. If you want to try it then go and good luck.
2.) The Comp scene is dead which hurt the NA community quite a bit since the really active players in the NA community and the forums are the comp players. There are many reasons why it is dead but I believe one of the main factor is that after NANWL S6 comp regiments didn't do a good job of trying to bring new players to the competitive scene (correct me if I am wrong). After NAPL the comp scene was on its last legs before Irish and I (Fair to say) revived the comp scene back by making our regiments and brought new or older players back to the community. The other main factor is bandwagons. I know bandwagons has been going on since 71st started the trend in 2014 (correct me if I am wrong) but look what happen when bandwagons were around. 58e was the only really league 1 regiment around besides 63e with help from 71st players to boast their melee skills to even give them a chance. Another example is 2017 when 3e reformed after 6te disbanded and the only two real league 1 regiments were LG and 3e. We had no balance in the community and honestly the worst competition we had in NA league wise since S5. Shit it was hard in NANWL S7 & 8 to pick regiments in either league because there was such a skill gap between league 1 & 2 regiments because every good player wanted to join the best melee regiments available out there. Of course there are other reasons like people getting bored, having a life, etc. My point for this is that people inability to bring many people back or new players to the comp scene and bandwagons is part of the reason why the NA comp scene is dead today.
3.) This pissed me off the most to see but in NA we have the same damn event Mon, Tues, and Thurs-Sat. What i mean is that on those days regiments host the basic linebattle of line arty, skirms, and cav. The only other type of event NA has is a Siege event the 54th host every Sunday. We need variety of events in NA instead of the same stupid basic ass linebattle that for some reason people keep playing 4 times a week. I am sure others will agree with me that we need different types of events like Conquest, Line Only, historic events, or 2v2/3v3 events. I talked to pubs beginning of this years about joining 93rd for my casual line and some of them told me no because of the fact that they always go to the same event every week which gets very repetitive & boring. Overall, I just want people hosting events to mix it up for once and give a new event that is different from the ones we are already hosting 5 times a week.
4.) In my opinion to be a CR you would need to have some connections in both the comp & casual regiments in order to hear about possible issues in those parts of the community. To be fair I haven't really been in involved in the causal scene since 2eChef died in 2016 but I still have connections with leaders of causal regiments & armies which you guys should have as well if you don't already. Jake and Uni has huge connections to the casual scene compared to you guys. My point about this topic is that a CR that is suppose to watch and listen to the NA community should know the casual and comp scene somewhat.
Sorry for this long rant but I just felt like addressing stuff from the past and present from my prespective since I been in the casual and comp scene for quite some time. I moved this from the voting booth to here so some of my points is off of what Wind or Theo said in the voting booth thread.[close]
More the merrier.Congrats Jake! gl with CR 8)Thank you! The numbers on the steam charts do confirm a dying player base as we all know, the decrease however is slight and not steady. There are surges of players that have made increases, and for those interested can see here: https://steamcharts.com/app/48700#3m
also I would say, to add on to NickCole, that you can host more events, try to get more regs in comp, do whaetever...but the fact is that you can do all of that and still struggle. It's dying because of player base. Events are big because of regiments and regiments are big because of members, which leads to recruiting. There is like no one to recruit, besides the few familiar pubs you might see a few nights or whatever on the populated servers; but they don't join regiments, they just play on the server just to play nw and play a game. You can try to do all that but it would be incredibly hard.Iif the game had more (and a lot more) players that played actively, joined regiments, tried to get good at melee, joined the community, etc. then it would be fine to host a lot more events and tournaments. but it's 2018 and the game is dying and slowing down more than ever (even the comp scene).
I would say for the cr now, to just do what they can. And I get that's not saying a lot, but it's all they can do. Just trying to moderate, push people to host more events/tournaments, or whatever else they have planned.
FUCK BakesterThis is concerning Debbie!
I don't want an active practitioner of the smoking of the illegal, banned marijuana in office. What will the children think? Will they think that it is fine and dandy that an ELECTED OFFICIAL has partaken in the smoking of an illegal drug and also wish to partake in this satanic and disturbing rite? Will they believe that they will be able to live a normal life if they commit this despicable crime? Will they normalize the fact that this illegal and dangerous drug is on the streets and is being LEGALIZED BY THE GOVERNMENT and not question why the big hemp industry is trying to lead us away from our great christian morals? Will our children attempt to partake in further illegal activities and attempt to consume more dangerous and illegal drugs like cocaine? As a concerned mother and family man, I wish not that this demon in midst be allowed to take the sacred oath of office, but be stop by our strong-willed admin staff who know and respect the morals of our great christian FSE.
Well here is my rant. CR honestly is not a hard job because the forums stuff like discussing fse topics, muting or banning people, and moderating your section of the forums isn't that hard. The only hard part is having a impact in changing the community since there isn't much a CR can do anymore since NA comp scene is almost dead and linebattle scene is okay. I agree with Wind & Herishey that anyone who said they can make a "major" impact to the community during their term is retarded since very few CRs has made a "major" impact in EU or NA.1.) I was talking about competitive players that don't use FSE and should be apart of the community, but it would be cool to see if we could get casuals on FSE and socializing with us but yeah it's harder with them.
1.)SpoilerWind I get you are trying to get more casual people to use FSE since most of the NA active guys on the forums are the comp players. However, I tried that in 2016 with multiple people in 2eChef, Weast, and 61e and had little success. It is hard to convince those casual players to use the forums when the only reason they could use it is for off topic stuff, officers requesting units for an event, or posting on their regiment's thread since they have no reason to post on tournament threads. So it is useless for casual players to really get on forums unless they want to socialize with the community. If you want to try it then go and good luck.[close]
2.)SpoilerThe Comp scene is dead which hurt the NA community quite a bit since the really active players in the NA community and the forums are the comp players. There are many reasons why it is dead but I believe one of the main factor is that after NANWL S6 comp regiments didn't do a good job of trying to bring new players to the competitive scene (correct me if I am wrong). After NAPL the comp scene was on its last legs before Irish and I (Fair to say) revived the comp scene back by making our regiments and brought new or older players back to the community. The other main factor is bandwagons. I know bandwagons has been going on since 71st started the trend in 2014 (correct me if I am wrong) but look what happen when bandwagons were around. 58e was the only really league 1 regiment around besides 63e with help from 71st players to boast their melee skills to even give them a chance. Another example is 2017 when 3e reformed after 6te disbanded and the only two real league 1 regiments were LG and 3e. We had no balance in the community and honestly the worst competition we had in NA league wise since S5. Shit it was hard in NANWL S7 & 8 to pick regiments in either league because there was such a skill gap between league 1 & 2 regiments because every good player wanted to join the best melee regiments available out there. Of course there are other reasons like people getting bored, having a life, etc. My point for this is that people inability to bring many people back or new players to the comp scene and bandwagons is part of the reason why the NA comp scene is dead today.[close]
3.)SpoilerThis pissed me off the most to see but in NA we have the same damn event Mon, Tues, and Thurs-Sat. What i mean is that on those days regiments host the basic linebattle of line arty, skirms, and cav. The only other type of event NA has is a Siege event the 54th host every Sunday. We need variety of events in NA instead of the same stupid basic ass linebattle that for some reason people keep playing 4 times a week. I am sure others will agree with me that we need different types of events like Conquest, Line Only, historic events, or 2v2/3v3 events. I talked to pubs beginning of this years about joining 93rd for my casual line and some of them told me no because of the fact that they always go to the same event every week which gets very repetitive & boring. Overall, I just want people hosting events to mix it up for once and give a new event that is different from the ones we are already hosting 5 times a week.[close]
4.)SpoilerIn my opinion to be a CR you would need to have some connections in both the comp & casual regiments in order to hear about possible issues in those parts of the community. To be fair I haven't really been in involved in the causal scene since 2eChef died in 2016 but I still have connections with leaders of causal regiments & armies which you guys should have as well if you don't already. Jake and Uni has huge connections to the casual scene compared to you guys. My point about this topic is that a CR that is suppose to watch and listen to the NA community should know the casual and comp scene somewhat.[close]
Sorry for this long rant but I just felt like addressing stuff from the past and present from my prespective since I been in the casual and comp scene for quite some time. I moved this from the voting booth to here so some of my points is off of what Wind or Theo said in the voting booth thread.
o ya gl jake dont be shitThank you! I appreciate that and will try my best.
problem is pubs don’t wanna play comp cause they’d get shit ongetting shit on is never fun
blame bbg/15e for killing comp
Blaming the 15e/bbg is kinda dumb
I don’t know why you ignorantly blame the BBG for the state of competitive in NW. NW has been on a dying path for years, and the competitive side of the community is simply unsustainable with the majority of incoming or remaining players simply want to play the game for the games sake, no large tournaments or 1v1s. So many regiments have taken this path of going casual, HRE, LIR, 87th, 15e, 2ndHan, 6teSLR, and more - simply as a testament to the change of NW. so please, do not blame the 15e or BBG, and accept that the very nature of NW has changed from competitive to casual.
go read the bot survival rules. Other regiments can recruit. BBG is a lot easier to work with than the 63eproblem is pubs don’t wanna play comp cause they’d get shit ongetting shit on is never fun
blame bbg/15e for killing comp
Blaming the 15e/bbg is kinda dumb
I don’t know why you ignorantly blame the BBG for the state of competitive in NW. NW has been on a dying path for years, and the competitive side of the community is simply unsustainable with the majority of incoming or remaining players simply want to play the game for the games sake, no large tournaments or 1v1s. So many regiments have taken this path of going casual, HRE, LIR, 87th, 15e, 2ndHan, 6teSLR, and more - simply as a testament to the change of NW. so please, do not blame the 15e or BBG, and accept that the very nature of NW has changed from competitive to casual.
bbg bot survival is limited to 15e recruiting only
nw community boycotted 63e for the same reason
problem is pubs don’t wanna play comp cause they’d get shit ongetting shit on is never fun
blame bbg/15e for killing comp
Blaming the 15e/bbg is kinda dumb
I don’t know why you ignorantly blame the BBG for the state of competitive in NW. NW has been on a dying path for years, and the competitive side of the community is simply unsustainable with the majority of incoming or remaining players simply want to play the game for the games sake, no large tournaments or 1v1s. So many regiments have taken this path of going casual, HRE, LIR, 87th, 15e, 2ndHan, 6teSLR, and more - simply as a testament to the change of NW. so please, do not blame the 15e or BBG, and accept that the very nature of NW has changed from competitive to casual.
bbg bot survival is limited to 15e recruiting only
nw community boycotted 63e for the same reason
1 message per map for other regiments.problem is pubs don’t wanna play comp cause they’d get shit ongetting shit on is never fun
blame bbg/15e for killing comp
Blaming the 15e/bbg is kinda dumb
I don’t know why you ignorantly blame the BBG for the state of competitive in NW. NW has been on a dying path for years, and the competitive side of the community is simply unsustainable with the majority of incoming or remaining players simply want to play the game for the games sake, no large tournaments or 1v1s. So many regiments have taken this path of going casual, HRE, LIR, 87th, 15e, 2ndHan, 6teSLR, and more - simply as a testament to the change of NW. so please, do not blame the 15e or BBG, and accept that the very nature of NW has changed from competitive to casual.
bbg bot survival is limited to 15e recruiting only
nw community boycotted 63e for the same reason
Have you ever been on the server? Tired had allowed other regs 1 recruitment msg per map now for months. In fact HRE and LIR recruit quite a lot from there
1 message per map for other regiments.Spoilerproblem is pubs don’t wanna play comp cause they’d get shit ongetting shit on is never fun
blame bbg/15e for killing comp
Blaming the 15e/bbg is kinda dumb
I don’t know why you ignorantly blame the BBG for the state of competitive in NW. NW has been on a dying path for years, and the competitive side of the community is simply unsustainable with the majority of incoming or remaining players simply want to play the game for the games sake, no large tournaments or 1v1s. So many regiments have taken this path of going casual, HRE, LIR, 87th, 15e, 2ndHan, 6teSLR, and more - simply as a testament to the change of NW. so please, do not blame the 15e or BBG, and accept that the very nature of NW has changed from competitive to casual.
bbg bot survival is limited to 15e recruiting only
nw community boycotted 63e for the same reason
Have you ever been on the server? Tired had allowed other regs 1 recruitment msg per map now for months. In fact HRE and LIR recruit quite a lot from there[close]
*Admin message* JOIN THE 15E BBG GAMING COMMUNITY!
It should say this:1 message per map for other regiments.Spoilerproblem is pubs don’t wanna play comp cause they’d get shit ongetting shit on is never fun
blame bbg/15e for killing comp
Blaming the 15e/bbg is kinda dumb
I don’t know why you ignorantly blame the BBG for the state of competitive in NW. NW has been on a dying path for years, and the competitive side of the community is simply unsustainable with the majority of incoming or remaining players simply want to play the game for the games sake, no large tournaments or 1v1s. So many regiments have taken this path of going casual, HRE, LIR, 87th, 15e, 2ndHan, 6teSLR, and more - simply as a testament to the change of NW. so please, do not blame the 15e or BBG, and accept that the very nature of NW has changed from competitive to casual.
bbg bot survival is limited to 15e recruiting only
nw community boycotted 63e for the same reason
Have you ever been on the server? Tired had allowed other regs 1 recruitment msg per map now for months. In fact HRE and LIR recruit quite a lot from there[close]
*Admin message* JOIN THE 15E BBG GAMING COMMUNITY!
Actually it says every 25 minutes in purple right now
str_server_message_1 Want_to_get_better_at_combat?_Join_the_15e/1stLC_and/or_join_BoB_Groupfighting_server_to_test_your_skills
The regiments who are part of the BBG do get a benefit to recruiting, that was kind of the point. But since May, the LIR actually has gotten more recruits off of Bot Survival than the 15e.
I've allowed public recruiting since March 2017 on bot survival, if people don't recruit, that's on them.
I'd be down for a Campaign event again tbh, that shit was fun.Can be arranged however most days are taken or are uninterested problem with campaign events is getting regiments to work together. Also its the maintaining and editing of the map and the rules and enforcement of said rules that make it really a hit or miss. Fibriks campaign is a prime example of a good campaign at its beginning but fell off towards the end.
I'd be down for a Campaign event again tbh, that shit was fun.Can be arranged however most days are taken or are uninterested problem with campaign events is getting regiments to work together. Also its the maintaining and editing of the map and the rules and enforcement of said rules that make it really a hit or miss. Fibriks campaign is a prime example of a good campaign at its beginning but fell off towards the end.
fuck the 15e!
Good luck Jake. Comp NA regiments ruin the game, casual events were always more fun.Thank you esteemed cavalier
wtf why is bob being repped?
tbh, i was always more annoyed with the admins typing random crap in admin chat, or using admin chat to have a convo with another admin about the weather or some other unimportant topic. all of that purple text spam that had nothing to do with admining the server. that makes me want to leave the server faster than anything else. I will say recruitment messages in admin chat are the worst, but most servers outside the official servers do it, so it is whatever i guess. Some servers more than others only use their servers for recruitment purposes and that is it. They never cared about maintaining them or making sure they were taken care of. 63e siege was the most obvious offender of this.
wtf why is bob being repped?
Because pedro asked me. And I'm a nice guy.
Dan's been skipping church? smh
Good luck Jakester! I don't really like you but I know you'll do great!If that isn't in a sarcastic tone, then I don't think you have never, EVER written something so awkwardly put till now my broseph.
i'm a really awkward person ask midnightGood luck Jakester! I don't really like you but I know you'll do great!If that isn't in a sarcastic tone, then I don't think you have never, EVER written something so awkwardly put till now my broseph.
I don't want to hear it from you, heathenDan's been skipping church? smh
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i'm a really awkward person ask midnightGood luck Jakester! I don't really like you but I know you'll do great!If that isn't in a sarcastic tone, then I don't think you have never, EVER written something so awkwardly put till now my broseph.
sounds suggestivei'm a really awkward person ask midnightGood luck Jakester! I don't really like you but I know you'll do great!If that isn't in a sarcastic tone, then I don't think you have never, EVER written something so awkwardly put till now my broseph.
As someone who spent a night at Moraine's house..I can confirm he is really awkward, even more so in person.