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Mount & Blade Warband: Napoleonic Wars => Community => Events: NA => Topic started by: CakeFarts on September 25, 2020, 08:00:27 pm
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CakeFarts here. We need to reinvigorate the cav spirit in NA. It has been a while since NA has had some serious(and seriously good) cav regs. To do this, I propose we do a cav tournament(either 5v5s or a 1v1 tournament). If anyone is interested in doing this, comment here and I will be here for it 100% of the way. I think what is needed to put this on is good community influence by the influential members of the community and a server on which to host the cav battles. Thanks for reading!
-a brainlet cav player
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*snip*
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If you are one of those people that won’t play anything other than cav/spec please disband this thread
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If you are one of those people that won’t play anything other than cav/spec please disband this thread
how rude
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If you are one of those people that won’t play anything other than cav/spec please disband this thread
how rude
I’m not referring to you, you are a general, a 2ndLt Major General
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I been a pretty passionate cav player in the NA community, if a tournament was hosted, I would definitely be interested in participating in it.
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@Jakester
they call for another joust
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@Jakester
they call for another joust
strangest silver medal i've ever won
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I'd be interested, and I think I could drag a group of people in with me- If someone is willing to host. I guess message me if it ever happens/need help setting it up?
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@Jakester
they call for another joust
strangest silver medal i've ever won
One day the men of Banterbury will take home the prize
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If you are one of those people that won’t play anything other than cav/spec please disband this thread
*Says we should host tournament to invigorate the NA cav spirit*
*Gets told to disband thread*
Ok I will disband thread bc i enjoy cav xD lolololol. And i am in lineinfatry regiment soooooo maybe you should support community evnets?
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So it seems like there is some participation interest, is there anyone who would want to host server?
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So it seems like there is some participation interest, is there anyone who would want to host server?
Ask Jolly!
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@JollyCanadian
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Cav is cool, just dead.
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If you are one of those people that won’t play anything other than cav/spec please disband this thread
*Says we should host tournament to invigorate the NA cav spirit*
*Gets told to disband thread*
Ok I will disband thread bc i enjoy cav xD lolololol. And i am in lineinfatry regiment soooooo maybe you should support community evnets?
You can enjoy cav but don’t go overboard with it like some people have in the past. There used to be people who would ONLY play cavalry or other specialties and it’s fucking stupid because it doesn’t give other regiments who want to be cav once in a while a chance at playing. The same thing can be said for arty and skirm regiments but it became prominent with Les is More and his reg when he tried to buy cav slots for an extended period of time. I want there to be cav things but not entitled fucks who won’t give others a chance at their specialty.
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If you are one of those people that won’t play anything other than cav/spec please disband this thread
*Says we should host tournament to invigorate the NA cav spirit*
*Gets told to disband thread*
Ok I will disband thread bc i enjoy cav xD lolololol. And i am in lineinfatry regiment soooooo maybe you should support community evnets?
You can enjoy cav but don’t go overboard with it like some people have in the past. There used to be people who would ONLY play cavalry or other specialties and it’s fucking stupid because it doesn’t give other regiments who want to be cav once in a while a chance at playing. The same thing can be said for arty and skirm regiments but it became prominent with Les is More and his reg when he tried to buy cav slots for an extended period of time. I want there to be cav things but not entitled fucks who won’t give others a chance at their specialty.
I mean isn't most of your post just explaining what a specialty regiment is? If you're an arty regiment you're going to try and get artillery at most events you go to. If you don't you either play line or don't play at all. While it sucks -- that's kinda the point of being a specialty regiment. I don't agree with what Les did at all though, don't get me wrong. There's always a "chance" to let other regiments play if they sign up for the spec before a specialty regiment does. Even in a lot of old events that I went to when I was new to the game did signups the way most of NA does them now. Some had you sign up a week in advance and some just had pre-determined spec slots based on the specialty regiments. Back then I guess it was simpler due to the diversity of the regiments playing and most regiments being line infantry based and content with just that.
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If you are one of those people that won’t play anything other than cav/spec please disband this thread
*Says we should host tournament to invigorate the NA cav spirit*
*Gets told to disband thread*
Ok I will disband thread bc i enjoy cav xD lolololol. And i am in lineinfatry regiment soooooo maybe you should support community evnets?
You can enjoy cav but don’t go overboard with it like some people have in the past. There used to be people who would ONLY play cavalry or other specialties and it’s fucking stupid because it doesn’t give other regiments who want to be cav once in a while a chance at playing. The same thing can be said for arty and skirm regiments but it became prominent with Les is More and his reg when he tried to buy cav slots for an extended period of time. I want there to be cav things but not entitled fucks who won’t give others a chance at their specialty.
I mean isn't most of your post just explaining what a specialty regiment is? If you're an arty regiment you're going to try and get artillery at most events you go to. If you don't you either play line or don't play at all. While it sucks -- that's kinda the point of being a specialty regiment. I don't agree with what Les did at all though, don't get me wrong. There's always a "chance" to let other regiments play if they sign up for the spec before a specialty regiment does. Even in a lot of old events that I went to when I was new to the game did signups the way most of NA does them now. Some had you sign up a week in advance and some just had pre-determined spec slots based on the specialty regiments. Back then I guess it was simpler due to the diversity of the regiments playing and most regiments being line infantry based and content with just that.
I’m completely fine with specialty regiments as long as
A.) They are willing to play line once in a while, and will play in events despite not having a specialty
B.) Willing to share their specialty with a different regiment once in a while
C.) Don’t try to find scummy methods that keep getting them specialties (ie. Les)
D.) Don’t discourage competition of that specialty (ie all the good cav players stacking a single reg resulting in unfair skill balance)
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Just post before them lmao, everyone has a chance at getting a specialty equally
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If you are one of those people that won’t play anything other than cav/spec please disband this thread
*Says we should host tournament to invigorate the NA cav spirit*
*Gets told to disband thread*
Ok I will disband thread bc i enjoy cav xD lolololol. And i am in lineinfatry regiment soooooo maybe you should support community evnets?
You can enjoy cav but don’t go overboard with it like some people have in the past. There used to be people who would ONLY play cavalry or other specialties and it’s fucking stupid because it doesn’t give other regiments who want to be cav once in a while a chance at playing. The same thing can be said for arty and skirm regiments but it became prominent with Les is More and his reg when he tried to buy cav slots for an extended period of time. I want there to be cav things but not entitled fucks who won’t give others a chance at their specialty.
I mean isn't most of your post just explaining what a specialty regiment is? If you're an arty regiment you're going to try and get artillery at most events you go to. If you don't you either play line or don't play at all. While it sucks -- that's kinda the point of being a specialty regiment. I don't agree with what Les did at all though, don't get me wrong. There's always a "chance" to let other regiments play if they sign up for the spec before a specialty regiment does. Even in a lot of old events that I went to when I was new to the game did signups the way most of NA does them now. Some had you sign up a week in advance and some just had pre-determined spec slots based on the specialty regiments. Back then I guess it was simpler due to the diversity of the regiments playing and most regiments being line infantry based and content with just that.
I’m completely fine with specialty regiments as long as
A.) They are willing to play line once in a while, and will play in events despite not having a specialty
B.) Willing to share their specialty with a different regiment once in a while
C.) Don’t try to find scummy methods that keep getting them specialties (ie. Les)
D.) Don’t discourage competition of that specialty (ie all the good cav players stacking a single reg resulting in unfair skill balance)
I 100% agree with B,C,D. I don't 100% agree with A. If you're an arty regiment and most of your members are there for playing arty you're not gonna be able to force them to play line. In a worst case scenario most people would leave and you'd have a 2-3 man line if that (since Arty is typically small numbers anyway). Not many leaders are going to attend an event with 2-3 guys. I know I wouldn't if I was trying to do a serious and/or organized regiment and not memeing.
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If you are one of those people that won’t play anything other than cav/spec please disband this thread
*Says we should host tournament to invigorate the NA cav spirit*
*Gets told to disband thread*
Ok I will disband thread bc i enjoy cav xD lolololol. And i am in lineinfatry regiment soooooo maybe you should support community evnets?
You can enjoy cav but don’t go overboard with it like some people have in the past. There used to be people who would ONLY play cavalry or other specialties and it’s fucking stupid because it doesn’t give other regiments who want to be cav once in a while a chance at playing. The same thing can be said for arty and skirm regiments but it became prominent with Les is More and his reg when he tried to buy cav slots for an extended period of time. I want there to be cav things but not entitled fucks who won’t give others a chance at their specialty.
I mean isn't most of your post just explaining what a specialty regiment is? If you're an arty regiment you're going to try and get artillery at most events you go to. If you don't you either play line or don't play at all. While it sucks -- that's kinda the point of being a specialty regiment. I don't agree with what Les did at all though, don't get me wrong. There's always a "chance" to let other regiments play if they sign up for the spec before a specialty regiment does. Even in a lot of old events that I went to when I was new to the game did signups the way most of NA does them now. Some had you sign up a week in advance and some just had pre-determined spec slots based on the specialty regiments. Back then I guess it was simpler due to the diversity of the regiments playing and most regiments being line infantry based and content with just that.
I’m completely fine with specialty regiments as long as
A.) They are willing to play line once in a while, and will play in events despite not having a specialty
B.) Willing to share their specialty with a different regiment once in a while
C.) Don’t try to find scummy methods that keep getting them specialties (ie. Les)
D.) Don’t discourage competition of that specialty (ie all the good cav players stacking a single reg resulting in unfair skill balance)
I 100% agree with B,C,D. I don't 100% agree with A. If you're an arty regiment and most of your members are there for playing arty you're not gonna be able to force them to play line. In a worst case scenario most people would leave and you'd have a 2-3 man line if that (since Arty is typically small numbers anyway). Not many leaders are going to attend an event with 2-3 guys. I know I wouldn't if I was trying to do a serious and/or organized regiment and not memeing.
Point A comes from more of an event host perspective. Let’s say this specialty regiment is really big and makes up a good amount of the event. If they don’t get that specialty that’s a portion of the event that won’t show up or if they do have few people. This puts pressure on the event host to give the regiment its specialty for event number reasons
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Spoiler
If you are one of those people that won’t play anything other than cav/spec please disband this thread
*Says we should host tournament to invigorate the NA cav spirit*
*Gets told to disband thread*
Ok I will disband thread bc i enjoy cav xD lolololol. And i am in lineinfatry regiment soooooo maybe you should support community evnets?
You can enjoy cav but don’t go overboard with it like some people have in the past. There used to be people who would ONLY play cavalry or other specialties and it’s fucking stupid because it doesn’t give other regiments who want to be cav once in a while a chance at playing. The same thing can be said for arty and skirm regiments but it became prominent with Les is More and his reg when he tried to buy cav slots for an extended period of time. I want there to be cav things but not entitled fucks who won’t give others a chance at their specialty.
I mean isn't most of your post just explaining what a specialty regiment is? If you're an arty regiment you're going to try and get artillery at most events you go to. If you don't you either play line or don't play at all. While it sucks -- that's kinda the point of being a specialty regiment. I don't agree with what Les did at all though, don't get me wrong. There's always a "chance" to let other regiments play if they sign up for the spec before a specialty regiment does. Even in a lot of old events that I went to when I was new to the game did signups the way most of NA does them now. Some had you sign up a week in advance and some just had pre-determined spec slots based on the specialty regiments. Back then I guess it was simpler due to the diversity of the regiments playing and most regiments being line infantry based and content with just that.
I’m completely fine with specialty regiments as long as
A.) They are willing to play line once in a while, and will play in events despite not having a specialty
B.) Willing to share their specialty with a different regiment once in a while
C.) Don’t try to find scummy methods that keep getting them specialties (ie. Les)
D.) Don’t discourage competition of that specialty (ie all the good cav players stacking a single reg resulting in unfair skill balance)
I 100% agree with B,C,D. I don't 100% agree with A. If you're an arty regiment and most of your members are there for playing arty you're not gonna be able to force them to play line. In a worst case scenario most people would leave and you'd have a 2-3 man line if that (since Arty is typically small numbers anyway). Not many leaders are going to attend an event with 2-3 guys. I know I wouldn't if I was trying to do a serious and/or organized regiment and not memeing.
Point A comes from more of an event host perspective. Let’s say this specialty regiment is really big and makes up a good amount of the event. If they don’t get that specialty that’s a portion of the event that won’t show up or if they do have few people. This puts pressure on the event host to give the regiment its specialty for event number reasons
Oh for sure. If they're a large regiment and THEY ALL leave then it definitely sucks from a hosting perspective. Like I said though, you can't really force people to stay these days. It goes back to the convo we had in TS last night. Years ago you could "punish" members for not attending events or whatever without a valid reason. You can't really do that these days as they'd just leave and you'd shoot yourself in the foot.
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I think Les hosted a 2v2 Cav tournament last year and had like 16-20 teams so its possible for sure. Just find someone willing to host the tournament and to help you spread the word about the tournament.
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Spoiler
If you are one of those people that won’t play anything other than cav/spec please disband this thread
*Says we should host tournament to invigorate the NA cav spirit*
*Gets told to disband thread*
Ok I will disband thread bc i enjoy cav xD lolololol. And i am in lineinfatry regiment soooooo maybe you should support community evnets?
You can enjoy cav but don’t go overboard with it like some people have in the past. There used to be people who would ONLY play cavalry or other specialties and it’s fucking stupid because it doesn’t give other regiments who want to be cav once in a while a chance at playing. The same thing can be said for arty and skirm regiments but it became prominent with Les is More and his reg when he tried to buy cav slots for an extended period of time. I want there to be cav things but not entitled fucks who won’t give others a chance at their specialty.
I mean isn't most of your post just explaining what a specialty regiment is? If you're an arty regiment you're going to try and get artillery at most events you go to. If you don't you either play line or don't play at all. While it sucks -- that's kinda the point of being a specialty regiment. I don't agree with what Les did at all though, don't get me wrong. There's always a "chance" to let other regiments play if they sign up for the spec before a specialty regiment does. Even in a lot of old events that I went to when I was new to the game did signups the way most of NA does them now. Some had you sign up a week in advance and some just had pre-determined spec slots based on the specialty regiments. Back then I guess it was simpler due to the diversity of the regiments playing and most regiments being line infantry based and content with just that.
I’m completely fine with specialty regiments as long as
A.) They are willing to play line once in a while, and will play in events despite not having a specialty
B.) Willing to share their specialty with a different regiment once in a while
C.) Don’t try to find scummy methods that keep getting them specialties (ie. Les)
D.) Don’t discourage competition of that specialty (ie all the good cav players stacking a single reg resulting in unfair skill balance)
I 100% agree with B,C,D. I don't 100% agree with A. If you're an arty regiment and most of your members are there for playing arty you're not gonna be able to force them to play line. In a worst case scenario most people would leave and you'd have a 2-3 man line if that (since Arty is typically small numbers anyway). Not many leaders are going to attend an event with 2-3 guys. I know I wouldn't if I was trying to do a serious and/or organized regiment and not memeing.
Point A comes from more of an event host perspective. Let’s say this specialty regiment is really big and makes up a good amount of the event. If they don’t get that specialty that’s a portion of the event that won’t show up or if they do have few people. This puts pressure on the event host to give the regiment its specialty for event number reasons
Oh for sure. If they're a large regiment and THEY ALL leave then it definitely sucks from a hosting perspective. Like I said though, you can't really force people to stay these days. It goes back to the convo we had in TS last night. Years ago you could "punish" members for not attending events or whatever without a valid reason. You can't really do that these days as they'd just leave and you'd shoot yourself in the foot.
Like I mentioned on the corrupt thread people just want to play specalities more nowadays because line at pub events can get boring. I get stryker you want to play specialities but the only thing you can do is sign up first. Its sad to see when you go to events nowadays and see more specality units then actual Inf Lines.
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Spoiler
If you are one of those people that won’t play anything other than cav/spec please disband this thread
*Says we should host tournament to invigorate the NA cav spirit*
*Gets told to disband thread*
Ok I will disband thread bc i enjoy cav xD lolololol. And i am in lineinfatry regiment soooooo maybe you should support community evnets?
You can enjoy cav but don’t go overboard with it like some people have in the past. There used to be people who would ONLY play cavalry or other specialties and it’s fucking stupid because it doesn’t give other regiments who want to be cav once in a while a chance at playing. The same thing can be said for arty and skirm regiments but it became prominent with Les is More and his reg when he tried to buy cav slots for an extended period of time. I want there to be cav things but not entitled fucks who won’t give others a chance at their specialty.
I mean isn't most of your post just explaining what a specialty regiment is? If you're an arty regiment you're going to try and get artillery at most events you go to. If you don't you either play line or don't play at all. While it sucks -- that's kinda the point of being a specialty regiment. I don't agree with what Les did at all though, don't get me wrong. There's always a "chance" to let other regiments play if they sign up for the spec before a specialty regiment does. Even in a lot of old events that I went to when I was new to the game did signups the way most of NA does them now. Some had you sign up a week in advance and some just had pre-determined spec slots based on the specialty regiments. Back then I guess it was simpler due to the diversity of the regiments playing and most regiments being line infantry based and content with just that.
I’m completely fine with specialty regiments as long as
A.) They are willing to play line once in a while, and will play in events despite not having a specialty
B.) Willing to share their specialty with a different regiment once in a while
C.) Don’t try to find scummy methods that keep getting them specialties (ie. Les)
D.) Don’t discourage competition of that specialty (ie all the good cav players stacking a single reg resulting in unfair skill balance)
I 100% agree with B,C,D. I don't 100% agree with A. If you're an arty regiment and most of your members are there for playing arty you're not gonna be able to force them to play line. In a worst case scenario most people would leave and you'd have a 2-3 man line if that (since Arty is typically small numbers anyway). Not many leaders are going to attend an event with 2-3 guys. I know I wouldn't if I was trying to do a serious and/or organized regiment and not memeing.
Point A comes from more of an event host perspective. Let’s say this specialty regiment is really big and makes up a good amount of the event. If they don’t get that specialty that’s a portion of the event that won’t show up or if they do have few people. This puts pressure on the event host to give the regiment its specialty for event number reasons
Oh for sure. If they're a large regiment and THEY ALL leave then it definitely sucks from a hosting perspective. Like I said though, you can't really force people to stay these days. It goes back to the convo we had in TS last night. Years ago you could "punish" members for not attending events or whatever without a valid reason. You can't really do that these days as they'd just leave and you'd shoot yourself in the foot.
Like I mentioned on the corrupt thread people just want to play specalities more nowadays because line at pub events can get boring. I get stryker you want to play specialities but the only thing you can do is sign up first. Its sad to see when you go to events nowadays and see more specality units then actual Inf Lines.
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Going back to the topic -- I would personally enjoy a Cav thing. I could possibly talk to Xethos about using the HMs server for it. The only problem with that is most of the events use the HMs server already so there would definitely be scheduling constraints.
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Yea, to further explain what Nickcole said, I made an entire document literally proving specialties were broken given specific conditions. No reason to play full specialties on an event with less than 160 people. Even with 200 people, the specialties to line ratio is near 50/50 giving line a slight advantage.
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Going back to the topic -- I would personally enjoy a Cav thing. I could possibly talk to Xethos about using the HMs server for it. The only problem with that is most of the events use the HMs server already so there would definitely be scheduling constraints.
This would not be an issue. I can run as many instances of NW servers as I want, and the limiting factor for performance (beside Warband's amazing networking) is the number of cores on the box.
That said, I don't imagine you would want to schedule this sort of thing during an event that your target audience is already going to.
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2eDLG is reforming for this
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2eDLG is reforming for this
Gunna pay people to join your group eh?
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2eDLG is reforming for this
Gunna pay people to join your group eh?