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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #180 on: March 31, 2015, 12:28:52 pm »
Wtf is wrong with you people
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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #181 on: March 31, 2015, 12:47:06 pm »
I know Aruba and Curacao saw Nazi's (UBoats). In Aruba one torpedo landed on the beach and there were also many oil ships destroyed.
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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #182 on: March 31, 2015, 02:44:56 pm »
I know Aruba and Curacao saw Nazi's (UBoats). In Aruba one torpedo landed on the beach and there were also many oil ships destroyed.
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Didn't this torpedo explode a few days later and kill some soldiers?
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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #183 on: March 31, 2015, 02:51:42 pm »
Wait, is that a Dutch soldier wearing the colonial straw hat? But he's not even in the East Indies! Shameful!

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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #184 on: March 31, 2015, 02:53:03 pm »
Sorry

Oxymorons like "Dutch soldier" do not register
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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #185 on: March 31, 2015, 05:13:56 pm »
I know Aruba and Curacao saw Nazi's (UBoats). In Aruba one torpedo landed on the beach and there were also many oil ships destroyed.
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Didn't this torpedo explode a few days later and kill some soldiers?
Yes four dutch marines died when they were examining it (it blew up).
For those interested in the failure and also possibly the derpiest moment in German Uboat warfare:
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On 16 February, after observing the area for a few days, U-156 came around to the refineries. There in front of her target were two Lago Company steamers, SS Pedernales and Oranjestad, both British owned oilers. At 01:31, U-156 surfaced in San Nicholas Harbor some 1.5 km (0.81 nmi; 0.93 mi) offshore and attacked the two British tankers at anchor. Hartenstein ordered the firing of one torpedo from his bow tubes at Pedernales. The torpedo attack was successful and Pedernales was hit amidship. Loaded with crude oil, the steamer immediately burst into flames, killing eight of her 26 crewmen and wounding her captain Herbert McCall.[1] Oranjestad then began to lift anchor and steam away but she was too late and was hit by a second torpedo fired from U-156. She too burst into flames and an hour later, sunk in about 70 m (230 ft) of water. Fifteen of her 22 crewmen were killed.[2] At this time, several Dutch sailors flocked to their small wooden patrol craft at harbor in order to get them away from the burning oil of the tankers.

At 03:13, U-156 attacked the Texaco owned tanker SS Arkansas which was berthed at Eagle Beach next to the Arend/Eagle Refinery. Just one of the torpedoes struck Arkansas and partially sank her but the damage was moderate and caused no casualties.[3] Commander Hartenstein then steamed further around Aruba and directed his men to take to the deck guns and prepare for a naval bombardment of the large oil tank in view. The crew of the 105 mm (4.1 in) gun forgot to remove the water cap from the barrel, so when Hartenstein ordered them to fire, the gun blew up in the faces of the two gunners. Gunnery Officer Dietrich von dem Borne was wounded badly, one foot having been severed. His comrade and trigger man Heinrich Büssinger was badly wounded as well and died several hours after the attack. Hartenstein ordered the 37 mm (1.46 in) flak gun to continue the attack.

Sixteen rounds from the 37mm AA gun were fired, but only two hits were found by the Allies: a dent in an oil storage tank and a hole in a house. In disgust[citation needed] Hartenstein ordered a cease-fire, and set his course toward the other end of the island. En route, U-156 was found and attacked by a Fokker F.XVIII maritime patrol aircraft of the Netherlands West Indies Defence Force which took off from Oranjestad, Aruba at 05.55 hours and dropped a number of 8 kg (80 mm) improvised anti-submarine bombs without achieving a hit.[4] The U-boat continued towards Oranjestad harbor and at 09.43 hours torpedoed the Arkansas lying at the pier of the Eagle Refinery, after missing with two torpedoes.[citation needed]

Meanwhile, the six other Axis boats patrolled the area in search of oil tankers. U-502 under Lieutenant Commander Jürgen von Rosenstiel made contact with at least three Allied vessels that day in the Gulf of Venezuela, two British oilers, SS Tia Juana[5] and San Nicolas.[6] were sunk along with the Venezuelan steamer Monagas.[7] U-67, under Captain Günther Müller-Stöckheim, attacked two additional tankers off Curaçao that morning. Stockheim fired four torpedoes from his bow tubes at the tankers in Willemstad Harbor. All four failed to hit their targets or failed to explode. Stockheim tried again and fired two more torpedoes from his stern tubes at the Dutch Rafaela; one hit and heavily damaged the ship.[8] U-67 then slipped away, unaware a United States Army Air Corps A-20 Havoc light bomber was in pursuit. The aircraft dropped its payload of both flares and explosives when over the surfaced U-boat but the bombs missed and U-67 submerged and got away. The flames from burning steamers around Aruba were reportedly so large that they could be seen easily from Curaçao.[citation needed]

The four other U-boats and submarines were apparently unsuccessful in engaging Allied ships that morning. The Dutch patrol boats did not engage either.
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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #186 on: March 31, 2015, 06:01:32 pm »
I know Aruba and Curacao saw Nazi's (UBoats). In Aruba one torpedo landed on the beach and there were also many oil ships destroyed.
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Didn't this torpedo explode a few days later and kill some soldiers?
Yes four dutch marines died when they were examining it (it blew up).
For those interested in the failure and also possibly the derpiest moment in German Uboat warfare:
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On 16 February, after observing the area for a few days, U-156 came around to the refineries. There in front of her target were two Lago Company steamers, SS Pedernales and Oranjestad, both British owned oilers. At 01:31, U-156 surfaced in San Nicholas Harbor some 1.5 km (0.81 nmi; 0.93 mi) offshore and attacked the two British tankers at anchor. Hartenstein ordered the firing of one torpedo from his bow tubes at Pedernales. The torpedo attack was successful and Pedernales was hit amidship. Loaded with crude oil, the steamer immediately burst into flames, killing eight of her 26 crewmen and wounding her captain Herbert McCall.[1] Oranjestad then began to lift anchor and steam away but she was too late and was hit by a second torpedo fired from U-156. She too burst into flames and an hour later, sunk in about 70 m (230 ft) of water. Fifteen of her 22 crewmen were killed.[2] At this time, several Dutch sailors flocked to their small wooden patrol craft at harbor in order to get them away from the burning oil of the tankers.

At 03:13, U-156 attacked the Texaco owned tanker SS Arkansas which was berthed at Eagle Beach next to the Arend/Eagle Refinery. Just one of the torpedoes struck Arkansas and partially sank her but the damage was moderate and caused no casualties.[3] Commander Hartenstein then steamed further around Aruba and directed his men to take to the deck guns and prepare for a naval bombardment of the large oil tank in view. The crew of the 105 mm (4.1 in) gun forgot to remove the water cap from the barrel, so when Hartenstein ordered them to fire, the gun blew up in the faces of the two gunners. Gunnery Officer Dietrich von dem Borne was wounded badly, one foot having been severed. His comrade and trigger man Heinrich Büssinger was badly wounded as well and died several hours after the attack. Hartenstein ordered the 37 mm (1.46 in) flak gun to continue the attack.

Sixteen rounds from the 37mm AA gun were fired, but only two hits were found by the Allies: a dent in an oil storage tank and a hole in a house. In disgust[citation needed] Hartenstein ordered a cease-fire, and set his course toward the other end of the island. En route, U-156 was found and attacked by a Fokker F.XVIII maritime patrol aircraft of the Netherlands West Indies Defence Force which took off from Oranjestad, Aruba at 05.55 hours and dropped a number of 8 kg (80 mm) improvised anti-submarine bombs without achieving a hit.[4] The U-boat continued towards Oranjestad harbor and at 09.43 hours torpedoed the Arkansas lying at the pier of the Eagle Refinery, after missing with two torpedoes.[citation needed]

Meanwhile, the six other Axis boats patrolled the area in search of oil tankers. U-502 under Lieutenant Commander Jürgen von Rosenstiel made contact with at least three Allied vessels that day in the Gulf of Venezuela, two British oilers, SS Tia Juana[5] and San Nicolas.[6] were sunk along with the Venezuelan steamer Monagas.[7] U-67, under Captain Günther Müller-Stöckheim, attacked two additional tankers off Curaçao that morning. Stockheim fired four torpedoes from his bow tubes at the tankers in Willemstad Harbor. All four failed to hit their targets or failed to explode. Stockheim tried again and fired two more torpedoes from his stern tubes at the Dutch Rafaela; one hit and heavily damaged the ship.[8] U-67 then slipped away, unaware a United States Army Air Corps A-20 Havoc light bomber was in pursuit. The aircraft dropped its payload of both flares and explosives when over the surfaced U-boat but the bombs missed and U-67 submerged and got away. The flames from burning steamers around Aruba were reportedly so large that they could be seen easily from Curaçao.[citation needed]

The four other U-boats and submarines were apparently unsuccessful in engaging Allied ships that morning. The Dutch patrol boats did not engage either.
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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #187 on: July 07, 2015, 06:01:49 pm »
Italians, Frenchs.

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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #188 on: July 10, 2015, 01:08:18 am »
We atleast tried. Then the great Andrew Jackson sent the brits packing at the Battle of New Orleans.

You sure did, funny how you had 2000+ more men and still lost. ;)

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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #189 on: July 10, 2015, 04:00:41 am »
Italians, Frenchs.

You lack knowledge obviously...


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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #190 on: July 12, 2015, 09:56:58 am »
The Mexicans.
They lost the Texas Revolution, the Mexican-American war, and depending on who you ask, the current Drug War.

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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #191 on: July 12, 2015, 10:04:51 am »
It's really difficult to say which nation is worst at wars since many have had many ups and downs in history. Best probably to answer with a colonial nation like in Latin America.

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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #192 on: July 15, 2015, 07:06:06 pm »
Italians, Frenchs.

You lack knowledge obviously...

No, history can teach this easily.  ;)

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Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?
« Reply #194 on: July 16, 2015, 09:20:41 am »
Italians, Frenchs.

You lack knowledge obviously...

No, history can teach this easily.  ;)

Why France? xD Look what happened to France during the Napoleonic Wars lol