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Title: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: SamTheZamER on September 04, 2014, 12:44:50 am
The guy who invented Kindergarten, served in the Prussian Freikorps

Carrots were originally purple but to appease the Prince of the Oranges house Dutch farmers changed them to be orange
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Shredder on September 04, 2014, 01:20:13 am
I'm just going to throw this here for the lolz.
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages-cdn.9gag.com%2Fphoto%2F62161_700b_v1.jpg&hash=fa9ad86c20ef7bb5c80bcc32968a528fcb703cea)
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Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Killington on September 04, 2014, 01:30:01 am
I'm just going to throw this here for the lolz.
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages-cdn.9gag.com%2Fphoto%2F62161_700b_v1.jpg&hash=fa9ad86c20ef7bb5c80bcc32968a528fcb703cea)
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Odd that he was with Marilyn Monroe a week before he died, seeing as Marilyn Monroe died in '62, and JFK was assassinated in late '63  :o

OH MY GOD YOU'VE PROVEN TIME TRAVEL
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: kpetschulat on September 04, 2014, 01:55:54 am
I'm just going to throw this here for the lolz.
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages-cdn.9gag.com%2Fphoto%2F62161_700b_v1.jpg&hash=fa9ad86c20ef7bb5c80bcc32968a528fcb703cea)
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Yeah, that's mostly bullshit. Lol.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Shredder on September 04, 2014, 02:21:06 am
I'm just going to throw this here for the lolz.
Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages-cdn.9gag.com%2Fphoto%2F62161_700b_v1.jpg&hash=fa9ad86c20ef7bb5c80bcc32968a528fcb703cea)
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Yeah, that's mostly bullshit. Lol.
buh buh America
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: joer5835 on September 04, 2014, 10:05:56 pm
Carrots were originally purple but to appease the Prince of the Oranges house Dutch farmers changed them to be orange

You stole that from my sig.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: SamTheZamER on September 04, 2014, 11:16:08 pm
Carrots were originally purple but to appease the Prince of the Oranges house Dutch farmers changed them to be orange

You stole that from my sig.

Actually it's a known fact in history that I read in a book once a while ago...
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Ililsa on September 05, 2014, 02:36:14 am
fuckin dutch ruined carrots for medieval reenactors.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: George385 on September 05, 2014, 06:58:23 am
fuckin dutch ruined carrots for medieval reenactors.

haha lol
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Mr. Kochi on September 05, 2014, 08:12:29 am
Here's a nice fact about WW1.

Apparently, when the war began, neither side issued helmets to their troops.  They would walk around the trenches in their caps, or in the Germans' case, leather made Pickelhaubes.

Only around 1915 steel helmets were introduced, and there's quite a hilarious story about it. You see, by this time, the British generals realised a lot of their men were sent to hospital with head wounds, so they implemented the helmets. However, after the men were given these helmets, the number of men listed as 'wounded in the head' increased fivefold.

Incredibly enough, the generals thought the men were stupid, and began popping their heads over the parapets more often. Ergo, they pulled an order to remove the helmets.

Only a few smart people actually realised that the number of soldiers sent to hospital increased because they DIED LESS. The helmets deflected shrapnel, thus only hurting the user, rather than having him killed.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: kpetschulat on September 05, 2014, 08:31:02 am
That actually is a pretty cool tidbit of information. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: George385 on September 05, 2014, 09:09:41 am
Here's a nice fact about WW1.

Apparently, when the war began, neither side issued helmets to their troops.  They would walk around the trenches in their caps, or in the Germans' case, leather made Pickelhaubes.

Only around 1915 steel helmets were introduced, and there's quite a hilarious story about it. You see, by this time, the British generals realised a lot of their men were sent to hospital with head wounds, so they implemented the helmets. However, after the men were given these helmets, the number of men listed as 'wounded in the head' increased fivefold.

Incredibly enough, the generals thought the men were stupid, and began popping their heads over the parapets more often. Ergo, they pulled an order to remove the helmets.

Only a few smart people actually realised that the number of soldiers sent to hospital increased because they DIED LESS. The helmets deflected shrapnel, thus only hurting the user, rather than having him killed.

im not sure thats entirely true... I have seen relics of helmets from 1914 im pretty sure, from the French.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Nipplestockings on September 05, 2014, 09:38:26 am
Here's a nice fact about WW1.

Apparently, when the war began, neither side issued helmets to their troops.  They would walk around the trenches in their caps, or in the Germans' case, leather made Pickelhaubes.

Only around 1915 steel helmets were introduced, and there's quite a hilarious story about it. You see, by this time, the British generals realised a lot of their men were sent to hospital with head wounds, so they implemented the helmets. However, after the men were given these helmets, the number of men listed as 'wounded in the head' increased fivefold.

Incredibly enough, the generals thought the men were stupid, and began popping their heads over the parapets more often. Ergo, they pulled an order to remove the helmets.

Only a few smart people actually realised that the number of soldiers sent to hospital increased because they DIED LESS. The helmets deflected shrapnel, thus only hurting the user, rather than having him killed.

Haha, did you perchance hear that from the lindybeige video? You recited that like word for word. Very interesting fact all the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IQE0uZUMys

Edit: Oh, and his second video on the subject, just for extra interest

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVFm1dc8luM
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Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Turin Turambar on September 05, 2014, 11:19:53 am
A similar thing happened in the pacific war between Japan and the USA.

It was noticed that a special sort of aircraft (don't know which it was exactly, probably the corsair) of the US naval aviation was often found with very damaged wings when the planes came back from action. So they decided to strengthen the wings' armor. Then suddenly the number of aircraft which got destroyed increased however the number of aircraft coming back with damaged wings decreased.

It turned out that the aircraft who were not destroyed but came back with damaged wings did so because other parts which were not so resistant against enemy fire got damaged and then the planes crashed. Those pilots who came back with only damaged wings were lucky.
And by strenghening the wings' armor the plane got heavier and easier to kill for enemy fighters.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Bruin on September 05, 2014, 03:03:07 pm
France had the first idea to make the Panama Canal.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Colonel Howe on September 05, 2014, 07:49:37 pm
Homosexuality was punished by death in the Roman legions


Worth it for Shredder love
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Shredder on September 05, 2014, 09:34:56 pm
Howesexuality was made for exceptions
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: George385 on September 05, 2014, 11:40:02 pm
Homosexuality was punished by death in the Roman legions

no shit
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Nipplestockings on September 05, 2014, 11:55:05 pm
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im not sure thats entirely true... I have seen relics of helmets from 1914 im pretty sure, from the French.

The French Adrian helmets were not issued until 1915.

From wikipedia:

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It was the first standard helmet of the French Army and was designed when millions of French troops were engaged in trench warfare, and head wounds from the falling shrapnel generated by the new technique of indirect fire became a frequent cause of battlefield casualties. Introduced in 1915, it was the first modern steel helmet[1][2] and it served as the basic helmet of many armies well into the 1930s.
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Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Colonel Howe on September 06, 2014, 01:27:04 am
Homosexuality was punished by death in the Roman legions

no shit
Emu War. Shall we dance?
Howesexuality was made for exceptions
Homosexuality was only seen as okay in Rome if you were the dominating partner. Receiving was seen as shameful and humiliating. As, young boys were usually guided through a brief period of bisexuality by older, more experienced men who could council them.

Hadrian best emperor doe for having boy lover
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Colonel Howe on September 06, 2014, 01:30:45 am
Double post but fuck off analpagans.

As a young officer, Julius Caesar was sent to King Nicomedes to ask for reinforcements against Mithradates. It was rumored that Caesar and Nicomedes engaged in a sexual relationship. This rumor was used to slander Caesar later on.

And from the incident, one of my favorite collection of words ever was created:
"Caesar conquered Gaul, but Nicomedes conquered Caesar"
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Shredder on September 06, 2014, 01:31:31 am
"Acceptance of homosexuality was the downfall of the Roman Empire" cries Bryan Fisher
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Colonel Howe on September 06, 2014, 01:32:49 am
"Acceptance of homosexuality was the downfall of the Roman Empire" cries Bryan Fisher
More like the acceptance of Christianity but hey, I'm not here to argue with idiots.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: SamTheZamER on September 06, 2014, 04:13:02 am
May or may not be true, but I've heard it around a few times

When Louie 16th was to be executed for treason, it is said that he asked to have guillotines blade be made of solid gold, It took 20 drops of the blade to fully decapitate hime due to gold not being good and cutting.

I've found no historical accounts of this but heard it somewhere, I cant remember where...
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: kpetschulat on September 06, 2014, 04:19:30 am
Yeah, that's definitely far from the truth. He was arrested and beheaded by guillotine January 21st, 1793.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: SamTheZamER on September 06, 2014, 04:21:43 am
Ok, I think I heard it from a Total War game during a loading screen or something
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: kpetschulat on September 06, 2014, 04:22:32 am
I really highly doubt that... Lol. You saying this is the first time I have EVER heard that.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: George385 on September 06, 2014, 04:41:00 am
The most amount of times I've heard for a beheading to be completed was 3 blows, for Mary Queen of Scots.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Duuring on September 06, 2014, 11:52:53 am
I doubt they'd spend that much money to please Citizen Capet.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Riddlez on September 06, 2014, 12:27:00 pm
Did you ever know that in ancient Greece, gender was not determined by actually being a man or woman, but instead behaving like one?
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Colonel Howe on September 07, 2014, 11:27:02 pm
Roman centurions used twisted together vines to beat their soldiers for disobeying small offenses. One Roman centurion named Lucillus (I believe his name was) was said to have beaten his soldiers so much that he constantly broke the staff and was always calling for more.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Bruin on September 09, 2014, 01:03:48 am
In Roman times if you raped a girl they would take two big rocks and smash your balls together.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: kpetschulat on September 09, 2014, 01:05:43 am
Actually, they'd often throw you off the Tarpein rock for any sort of crimes involving sexuality.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Colonel Howe on September 10, 2014, 12:22:10 am
Actually, they'd often throw you off the Tarpein rock for any sort of crimes involving sexuality.
You can throw me off your Tarpien rock  :-*
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: kpetschulat on September 10, 2014, 12:23:40 am
All day, every day.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: joer5835 on September 15, 2014, 11:12:58 pm
While attending Trinity College, Lord Byron, who was very fond of animals, was not allowed to bring his dog with him. So instead, he brought a pet bear, as nowhere in the rules were there any mentions of not being allowed to have a pet bear.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: SamTheZamER on September 15, 2014, 11:14:05 pm
While attending Trinity College, Lord Byron, who was very fond of animals, was not allowed to bring his dog with him. So instead, he brought a pet bear, as nowhere in the rules were there any mentions of not being allowed to have a pet bear.

The original smartass
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Shredder on September 15, 2014, 11:14:19 pm
Rawr
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Von_Clausewitz on September 24, 2014, 09:35:53 pm
Maybe a pretty obvious one but; The word Tsar / Czar (used to describe Slavic rulers) is derived from the Latin title for the Roman emperors, Caesar.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Nipplestockings on September 24, 2014, 10:18:28 pm
Yeah yeah, same for Kaiser. Pretty interesting how far Rome's influenced reached in culture, even in regions it never directly occupied.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Colonel Howe on September 24, 2014, 11:25:51 pm
Yeah yeah, same for Kaiser. Pretty interesting how far Rome's influenced reached in culture, even in regions it never directly occupied.
Well Russia's use of Caesar is most likely derived from the fact that many Byzantine higher ups left for Russia after the fall of Constantinople
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: British Footguard Stezz on September 25, 2014, 11:44:30 am
'When we the Germans came, we lock up our men, but when the Americans come, we lock up our women.'
'They are like uniformed bandits.'

Those quotes were made by the French Villages in WWII on the Americans. I feel sad :c
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: MaxLam on September 27, 2014, 07:46:05 pm
Here's a nice fact about WW1.

Apparently, when the war began, neither side issued helmets to their troops.  They would walk around the trenches in their caps, or in the Germans' case, leather made Pickelhaubes.

Only around 1915 steel helmets were introduced, and there's quite a hilarious story about it. You see, by this time, the British generals realised a lot of their men were sent to hospital with head wounds, so they implemented the helmets. However, after the men were given these helmets, the number of men listed as 'wounded in the head' increased fivefold.

Incredibly enough, the generals thought the men were stupid, and began popping their heads over the parapets more often. Ergo, they pulled an order to remove the helmets.

Only a few smart people actually realised that the number of soldiers sent to hospital increased because they DIED LESS. The helmets deflected shrapnel, thus only hurting the user, rather than having him killed.

im not sure thats entirely true... I have seen relics of helmets from 1914 im pretty sure, from the French.
Yes, those were called cervelières:

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi88.servimg.com%2Fu%2Ff88%2F11%2F28%2F03%2F37%2Fensemb10.jpg&hash=409056d049caf9a0bba4edcf52b476b2610a1393)
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on September 27, 2014, 08:07:09 pm
I don't think those were standard issue though.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Nipplestockings on September 27, 2014, 08:11:55 pm
They also didn't really work.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: MaxLam on September 27, 2014, 08:14:15 pm
They were issued to the troops in 1914, created by Adrian who later made the Adrian helmet.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Mr. Kochi on October 05, 2014, 01:30:36 am
So I was looking up the Spanish SS units from WW2, and I found a nice little fact you chaps may find interesting.

Apparently, during D-Day, the German artillery firing on the Americans on Omaha beach, were operated by a significant number Spaniards. Many of which had either illegally crossed the Spanish border to join the Wehrmacht, or refused to be repatriated after the Division Azul was disbanded.

And if you go to the German cemeteries in Normandy, you'll find a lot of Spanish last names among the graves.

And if any of you understands spanish, I would recommend listening to this. (http://www.ivoox.com/espanoles-waffen-ss-audios-mp3_rf_280165_1.html)
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: CrumpetAwesome on October 07, 2014, 12:05:07 am
Some thing I remember reading ages ago :3

The SS ran a brothel named “The Kitty Salon” for foreign diplomats and other VIPs in Berlin. It was wire-tapped, and 20 prostitutes underwent several weeks of intense indoctrination and training. They were specifically trained to glean information from clients through seemingly innocuous conversations.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: George385 on October 07, 2014, 12:32:37 am
Some thing I remember reading ages ago :3

The SS ran a brothel named “The Kitty Salon” for foreign diplomats and other VIPs in Berlin. It was wire-tapped, and 20 prostitutes underwent several weeks of intense indoctrination and training. They were specifically trained to glean information from clients through seemingly innocuous conversations.

didnt know about that, but im not surprised.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: British Footguard Stezz on October 07, 2014, 11:14:02 am
WWI was the first filmed war, and saw the emergence of film as a tool for propaganda. Kaiser Wilhelm II personally appeared in more than 60 shorts and documentaries.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Nipplestockings on October 07, 2014, 03:43:53 pm
WWI was the first filmed war, and saw the emergence of film as a tool for propaganda. Kaiser Wilhelm II personally appeared in more than 60 shorts and documentaries.

Er, no it wasn't.

From Google:

The first war to be filmed was the Battle of Volo in Thessaly, Greece in April 1897. This war between Turkey and Greece was filmed by the British war correspondent and cinematographer, Frederick Villiers (UK), but never publically broadcast. The earliest footage of war that still exists was filmed on12 November 1899 by John Bennett (UK) during England's campaign at Orange River, South Africa during the Boer War (1899-1902).

I would believe that ww1 was the first war to have footage widely distributed to the general population, though.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: jaegerdude on October 08, 2014, 02:28:31 pm
Sidney Lewis was just 12 years old when he lied about his age and joined the army during World War One.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: British Footguard Stezz on October 09, 2014, 07:49:44 am
Yeah, a lot of boys under 18 joined the army to escape SCHOOL!
It was a source of excitement and some wanted to see the world.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Von_Clausewitz on October 18, 2014, 09:57:42 pm
We call a marathon a marathon because the soldier Pheidippides ran from the battlefield (Battle of Marathon) at the site of the town of Marathon, to Athens in 490 B.C., bringing news of a Greek victory over the Persians. The distance was around 26 miles, and that is still upheld today in modern marathons which are also 26 miles.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Duuring on October 19, 2014, 11:35:25 am
No it isn't. The first marathons were 25 miles, roughly, and the modern distance of 42.195 KM (26 miles) is the distance between Windsor castle and the Royal Box in White City Stadium.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Largoras on October 19, 2014, 12:27:31 pm
Here's a nice fact about WW1.

Apparently, when the war began, neither side issued helmets to their troops.  They would walk around the trenches in their caps, or in the Germans' case, leather made Pickelhaubes.

Only around 1915 steel helmets were introduced, and there's quite a hilarious story about it. You see, by this time, the British generals realised a lot of their men were sent to hospital with head wounds, so they implemented the helmets. However, after the men were given these helmets, the number of men listed as 'wounded in the head' increased fivefold.

Incredibly enough, the generals thought the men were stupid, and began popping their heads over the parapets more often. Ergo, they pulled an order to remove the helmets.

Only a few smart people actually realised that the number of soldiers sent to hospital increased because they DIED LESS. The helmets deflected shrapnel, thus only hurting the user, rather than having him killed.

Ok, interesting but i LOVE your avatar!
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Von_Clausewitz on October 19, 2014, 02:46:49 pm
No it isn't. The first marathons were 25 miles, roughly, and the modern distance of 42.195 KM (26 miles) is the distance between Windsor castle and the Royal Box in White City Stadium.

The distance from Marathon to Athens is roughly 26 miles (what is believed Pheidippides ran), the modern distance of a marathon is also 26 miles. Ofcourse it hasn't always been 26, maybe because the exact distance Pheidippides ran is debatable. Nevertheless it's an homage to the distance he ran, and always has been.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Mr. Kochi on October 20, 2014, 09:27:04 am
Ok so here's a funny one. The story of the Captain of Köpenick:

Wilhelm Voigt, a Prussian (later German) scumbag, was born in Tilsit, 1849. 14 years later, he was sent to jail for two weeks for stealing things. He was kicked out of school, and became his father's assistant in shoemaking. For the next 25 years, the man would go in and out of prison for thefts and forgery.

He was finally released in 1906, and as soon as he was out, he began planning his next move. After observing the mindless discipline of the German Army of the time, the little bastard came up with a brilliant idea. He went off to a few pawn shops and tailors, and spent most of his money on buying a Prussian officer's uniform, complete with a sword, hat and equipment required.

A few days later, he quit his job, put on the uniform and waltzed into some barracks. With his best impersonation of 'Officer speak', he gathered ten soldiers, and set off on a train to the town of Köpenick, east of Berlin. He then guided his small army into the town hall. 'arrested' the mayor and treasurer under 'crooked bookkeeping' charges, 'confiscated' about 4000 marks with a forged receipt (signed under the name of his former jail director) and sent the soldiers off with the prisoners back to Berlin.

Once the coast was clear, the bugger ditched the uniform and ran off with the booty.

After a short investigation, the army found Voigt and sent him back to jail, sentenced to four years for forgery, impersonating an officer and wrongful imprisonment of the mayor and treasurer.

But it doesn't stop there. On August, 1908, the Kaiser, amused by this guy's daring fuckery, pardoned and released him from jail. Four days later, a wax figure of the guy was presented to the Unter den Linden museum. Of course, without anyone inviting him, Voigt walked in there and signed autographs. For the following months, Voigt toured around Dresden, Vienna and Budapest, disregarding the fact that he was banned from most theatres and museums. He even ended up in Madame Tussaud's museum in London.

And to top it off, he now has a bloody STATUE erected in his name, just outside the town hall where he stole the money. I'm starting to like German humour.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fe%2Fe6%2FHauptmann_K%25C3%25B6penick.JPG&hash=c428c25d4ac0948b98915dceb9f217236cf92dbd)
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: SamTheZamER on October 20, 2014, 10:14:10 pm
Ok so here's a funny one. The story of the Captain of Köpenick:

Wilhelm Voigt, a Prussian (later German) scumbag, was born in Tilsit, 1849. 14 years later, he was sent to jail for two weeks for stealing things. He was kicked out of school, and became his father's assistant in shoemaking. For the next 25 years, the man would go in and out of prison for thefts and forgery.

He was finally released in 1906, and as soon as he was out, he began planning his next move. After observing the mindless discipline of the German Army of the time, the little bastard came up with a brilliant idea. He went off to a few pawn shops and tailors, and spent most of his money on buying a Prussian officer's uniform, complete with a sword, hat and equipment required.

A few days later, he quit his job, put on the uniform and waltzed into some barracks. With his best impersonation of 'Officer speak', he gathered ten soldiers, and set off on a train to the town of Köpenick, east of Berlin. He then guided his small army into the town hall. 'arrested' the mayor and treasurer under 'crooked bookkeeping' charges, 'confiscated' about 4000 marks with a forged receipt (signed under the name of his former jail director) and sent the soldiers off with the prisoners back to Berlin.

Once the coast was clear, the bugger ditched the uniform and ran off with the booty.

After a short investigation, the army found Voigt and sent him back to jail, sentenced to four years for forgery, impersonating an officer and wrongful imprisonment of the mayor and treasurer.

But it doesn't stop there. On August, 1908, the Kaiser, amused by this guy's daring fuckery, pardoned and released him from jail. Four days later, a wax figure of the guy was presented to the Unter den Linden museum. Of course, without anyone inviting him, Voigt walked in there and signed autographs. For the following months, Voigt toured around Dresden, Vienna and Budapest, disregarding the fact that he was banned from most theatres and museums. He even ended up in Madame Tussaud's museum in London.

And to top it off, he now has a bloody STATUE erected in his name, just outside the town hall where he stole the money. I'm starting to like German humour.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fe%2Fe6%2FHauptmann_K%25C3%25B6penick.JPG&hash=c428c25d4ac0948b98915dceb9f217236cf92dbd)

Someone give that man a medal of creativity
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Riddlez on October 20, 2014, 11:11:23 pm
Balls of steel.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: British Footguard Stezz on October 21, 2014, 10:37:45 am
Ok so here's a funny one. The story of the Captain of Köpenick:

Wilhelm Voigt, a Prussian (later German) scumbag, was born in Tilsit, 1849. 14 years later, he was sent to jail for two weeks for stealing things. He was kicked out of school, and became his father's assistant in shoemaking. For the next 25 years, the man would go in and out of prison for thefts and forgery.

He was finally released in 1906, and as soon as he was out, he began planning his next move. After observing the mindless discipline of the German Army of the time, the little bastard came up with a brilliant idea. He went off to a few pawn shops and tailors, and spent most of his money on buying a Prussian officer's uniform, complete with a sword, hat and equipment required.

A few days later, he quit his job, put on the uniform and waltzed into some barracks. With his best impersonation of 'Officer speak', he gathered ten soldiers, and set off on a train to the town of Köpenick, east of Berlin. He then guided his small army into the town hall. 'arrested' the mayor and treasurer under 'crooked bookkeeping' charges, 'confiscated' about 4000 marks with a forged receipt (signed under the name of his former jail director) and sent the soldiers off with the prisoners back to Berlin.

Once the coast was clear, the bugger ditched the uniform and ran off with the booty.

After a short investigation, the army found Voigt and sent him back to jail, sentenced to four years for forgery, impersonating an officer and wrongful imprisonment of the mayor and treasurer.

But it doesn't stop there. On August, 1908, the Kaiser, amused by this guy's daring fuckery, pardoned and released him from jail. Four days later, a wax figure of the guy was presented to the Unter den Linden museum. Of course, without anyone inviting him, Voigt walked in there and signed autographs. For the following months, Voigt toured around Dresden, Vienna and Budapest, disregarding the fact that he was banned from most theatres and museums. He even ended up in Madame Tussaud's museum in London.

And to top it off, he now has a bloody STATUE erected in his name, just outside the town hall where he stole the money. I'm starting to like German humour.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fe%2Fe6%2FHauptmann_K%25C3%25B6penick.JPG&hash=c428c25d4ac0948b98915dceb9f217236cf92dbd)

GG. Prussia and their discipline.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: MrTiki on October 30, 2014, 08:14:53 pm
Here's one for you:

Three times more people died in 6 months to Spanish Influenza (~32 million in the Autumn of 1918) than the total of all military casualties throughout WWI.
It's still twice as many when you include civilian casualties.
3% of the global population were wiped out by that motherfucker.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: SamTheZamER on October 31, 2014, 03:42:51 am
The Average life expectancy of an American 2ndLt dropped into a hot LZ in Vietnam during the war, was 16 minutes...
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: joer5835 on October 31, 2014, 01:14:58 pm
That sounds awfully familiar, isn't that from a movie?
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Nipplestockings on October 31, 2014, 01:17:05 pm
That sounds awfully familiar, isn't that from a movie?

It's from Rules of Engagement. It isn't true though, as far as I can tell from a quick Google search.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: SamTheZamER on October 31, 2014, 02:07:19 pm
That sounds awfully familiar, isn't that from a movie?

It's from Rules of Engagement. It isn't true though, as far as I can tell from a quick Google search.

Aw really? I saw it on " Rules of Engagement " and thought that was a pretty amazing piece of information
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: KurassierNixon on November 01, 2014, 06:44:25 pm
That sounds awfully familiar, isn't that from a movie?

It's from Rules of Engagement. It isn't true though, as far as I can tell from a quick Google search.

Aw really? I saw it on " Rules of Engagement " and thought that was a pretty amazing piece of information

That wasn't a documentary?
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Akko on November 28, 2014, 08:10:59 pm
There was an Indo-Greek kingdom set up in northern India. This short lived kingdom had about 30 kings over a roughly 200 year span.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldhistorymaps.info%2Fimages%2FIndo-Greeks_100bc.jpg&hash=f95524db461920ab285f2ad02b2624a9b2f003fc)

Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Commissar Jdf on November 28, 2014, 08:18:13 pm
The Average life expectancy of an American 2ndLt dropped into a hot LZ in Vietnam during the war, was 16 minutes...

What defines it as being hot?
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: kpetschulat on November 28, 2014, 10:19:11 pm
Battle zone. You know, since that what it means, dummy.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: SamTheZamER on November 29, 2014, 12:59:32 am
There was an Indo-Greek kingdom set up in northern India. This short lived kingdom had about 30 kings over a roughly 200 year span.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldhistorymaps.info%2Fimages%2FIndo-Greeks_100bc.jpg&hash=f95524db461920ab285f2ad02b2624a9b2f003fc)

That Baktria?
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Akko on November 29, 2014, 01:09:34 am
There was an Indo-Greek kingdom set up in northern India. This short lived kingdom had about 30 kings over a roughly 200 year span.

(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldhistorymaps.info%2Fimages%2FIndo-Greeks_100bc.jpg&hash=f95524db461920ab285f2ad02b2624a9b2f003fc)

That Baktria?

From what I know about Baktria, I think not, but I may be wrong. The first king was Apollodotus I (महरजस अपलदतस त्रतरस)
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Turin Turambar on November 29, 2014, 01:10:04 am
Yeah, it's Baktria.

Here is a German list on Wikipedia of all the Baktrian kings:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_indo-griechischen_und_baktrisch-griechischen_K%C3%B6nige

Sorry, no English version available.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Akko on November 29, 2014, 01:15:16 am
Yeah, it's Baktria.

Here is a German list on Wikipedia of all the Baktrian kings:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_indo-griechischen_und_baktrisch-griechischen_K%C3%B6nige

Sorry, no English version available.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Greek_Kingdom

First king of Greco-Bactrian Kingdom was Diodotus I. First king of the Indo-Greek Kingdom was Apollodotus I.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Turin Turambar on November 29, 2014, 01:21:41 am
The Indo-Greek Kingdom was the successor of the Greek-Baktrian Kingdom, so it is technically the same. They just lost their land in Baktria against nomad hordes and only had the Indian regions left.

From this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Bactrian_Kingdom

The Greco-Bactrian Kingdom was – along with the Indo-Greek Kingdom – the easternmost part of the Hellenistic world, covering Bactria and Sogdiana in Central Asia from 250 to 125 BC. It was centered around the north of present-day Afghanistan. The expansion of the Greco-Bactrians into northern India from 180 BC established the Indo-Greek Kingdom, which was to last until around AD 10.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Akko on November 29, 2014, 01:23:00 am
The Indo-Greek Kingdom was the successor of the Greek-Baktrian Kingdom, so it is technically the same. They just lost their land in Baktria against nomad hordes and only had the Indian regions left.

From this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Bactrian_Kingdom

The Greco-Bactrian Kingdom was – along with the Indo-Greek Kingdom – the easternmost part of the Hellenistic world, covering Bactria and Sogdiana in Central Asia from 250 to 125 BC. It was centered around the north of present-day Afghanistan. The expansion of the Greco-Bactrians into northern India from 180 BC established the Indo-Greek Kingdom, which was to last until around AD 10.

Ah ok I see. This kingdom was pretty interesting. A fusion of Greek and Indian sounds odd.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: SamTheZamER on November 29, 2014, 07:14:37 am
That might be one of the reasons why it only lasted 200 years, Mixing Western and Eastern cultures probably caused some cultural problems
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Colonel Howe on November 29, 2014, 07:58:29 pm
The Roman emperor Valentinian rarely met with foreign ambassadors. And after a war with the Germans (I believe the Quadi), Valentinian met with the foreign diplomats for the first time in his career. Valentinian, being the pompous Roman he was, began to berate and shame the Quadi for starting the war. The Quadi took this to mean that they could also push their issues and agenda so they began to berate the Roman governor who had actually started the war. Valentinian went into such an uncontrollable rage at the barbarian insolence that he worked himself into a stroke and died.

#DiplomacyKills
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: kpetschulat on November 29, 2014, 08:23:00 pm
#DiplomacyKills
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Akko on November 30, 2014, 12:51:10 am
Ice age Britons used skulls of the dead as cups.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Chosen1 on November 30, 2014, 12:53:46 am
The Japs invaded Alaska in WW2, at the same time the battle for Guadalcanal was going on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleutian_Islands_Campaign

GJ Japan
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Turin Turambar on November 30, 2014, 12:56:57 am
I knew it sucker. :P

And the Japanese garrison got fully extinguished when the Americans recaptured it.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Betaknight on November 30, 2014, 12:57:46 am
Cool thread, many things I didn't know
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Akko on November 30, 2014, 01:11:25 am
1.) The Romans used human urine as mouthwash.

2.) In 1788 the Austrian army attacked itself and lost 10,000 men.

3.) After finding a 36,000 year old steppe bison preserved in the ice, Alaskan zoology professor R. Dale Guthrie and his team ate some of its flesh. Guthrie said “the meat was well aged but still a little tough.”
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Commissar Jdf on November 30, 2014, 01:12:47 am
http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Betaknight on November 30, 2014, 01:15:50 am
Le Vizir
This grey Arabian stallion was presented to Napoleon Bonaparte by the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire as a token of friendship, and is known to have been one of his favourites. He accompanied his master to St Helena in 1815. After Napoleon's death on 5 May, 1821, Vizir was brought first to England and then to France, where he died in 1829. He was stuffed and mounted, and is currently on display at the Musé e de l'Armé e in Paris, along with the unknown dog that kept Napoleon company on Elba.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Akko on November 30, 2014, 01:18:05 am
Le Vizir
This grey Arabian stallion was presented to Napoleon Bonaparte by the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire as a token of friendship, and is known to have been one of his favourites. He accompanied his master to St Helena in 1815. After Napoleon's death on 5 May, 1821, Vizir was brought first to England and then to France, where he died in 1829. He was stuffed and mounted, and is currently on display at the Musé e de l'Armé e in Paris, along with the unknown dog that kept Napoleon company on Elba.

*Sees random dog*
*Sees random dog accompany Napoleon*
*Grabs dog*
*Stuffs it*
That's what I would have done.  8)
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: SamTheZamER on November 30, 2014, 03:37:53 am
 Before the mid-19th century dentures were commonly made with teeth pulled from the mouths of dead soldiers.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Betaknight on November 30, 2014, 04:03:51 am
Le Vizir
This grey Arabian stallion was presented to Napoleon Bonaparte by the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire as a token of friendship, and is known to have been one of his favourites. He accompanied his master to St Helena in 1815. After Napoleon's death on 5 May, 1821, Vizir was brought first to England and then to France, where he died in 1829. He was stuffed and mounted, and is currently on display at the Musé e de l'Armé e in Paris, along with the unknown dog that kept Napoleon company on Elba.

*Sees random dog*
*Sees random dog accompany Napoleon*
*Grabs dog*
*Stuffs it*
That's what I would have done.  8)
*Stuffs it with turkey* -Plottwist
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: SamTheZamER on November 30, 2014, 05:09:39 am
Le Vizir
This grey Arabian stallion was presented to Napoleon Bonaparte by the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire as a token of friendship, and is known to have been one of his favourites. He accompanied his master to St Helena in 1815. After Napoleon's death on 5 May, 1821, Vizir was brought first to England and then to France, where he died in 1829. He was stuffed and mounted, and is currently on display at the Musé e de l'Armé e in Paris, along with the unknown dog that kept Napoleon company on Elba.

*Sees random dog*
*Sees random dog accompany Napoleon*
*Grabs dog*
*Stuffs it*
That's what I would have done.  8)
*Stuffs it with turkey* -Plottwist

Turkduken is born
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Akko on November 30, 2014, 06:00:23 am
There is a village in China whose inhabitants are descended from Roman legions.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Betaknight on November 30, 2014, 12:56:22 pm
There is a village in China whose inhabitants are descended from Roman legions.
What 's the name of the village?
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Nipplestockings on November 30, 2014, 08:23:03 pm
There is a village in China whose inhabitants are descended from Roman legions.
What 's the name of the village?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liqian_%28village%29

Looks like there's not actually much evidence or academic support for the theory. Oh well, interesting all the same.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: SamTheZamER on November 30, 2014, 09:17:52 pm
Of the 10 most deadliest wars in all Human history, 8 of which were fought in China, the other 2 were the World Wars
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Ililsa on November 30, 2014, 09:44:58 pm
ITT: "Facts"

Discounting things that are technically parts of World Wars (Eastern Front and Sino-Japanese) it's like, 6 to 4 (WW1, WW2, Timur's conquests, Russian Civil War)
Can make a case that the Mongol Conquests don't count because they weren't exclusively fought in China as well.

Also the people who think there was actually a Battle of Karánsebes probably need to be put in a 'special class'
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on November 30, 2014, 10:19:05 pm
It's in like 10 different books. The casualties were probably exaggerated but there is evidence of a battle.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: SamTheZamER on November 30, 2014, 11:24:46 pm
ITT: "Facts"

Discounting things that are technically parts of World Wars (Eastern Front and Sino-Japanese) it's like, 6 to 4 (WW1, WW2, Timur's conquests, Russian Civil War)
Can make a case that the Mongol Conquests don't count because they weren't exclusively fought in China as well.

Also the people who think there was actually a Battle of Karánsebes probably need to be put in a 'special class'

I'm curious to hear why you think it's so ludicrous that, that battle occurred?
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Ililsa on December 01, 2014, 01:51:23 am
It's in like 10 different books. The casualties were probably exaggerated but there is evidence of a battle.

Of course, books. No-one who writes a book could make anything up, especially not when the original report surfaced 59 years after the alleged event - which also directs readers to the presumably made up Austrian Military Magazine of 1831 for a full account of the battle (not found, I might add).

The first 'source' of the battle from 1843 is considerably different to the modern version of events as well. Liars stories tend to change and become embellished.

Allegedly the Real-Zeitung reports an incident which caused 150 dead camp followers, which I wouldn't be able to read because I don't know German.
Not exactly a battle by any stretch of the imagination, if that event even happened. If the Real-Zeitung source doesn't detail anything, then that means there is no contemporary, native language documentation from a very well documented era of history.

Furthermore, battle sites tend to leave archaeological evidence, especially when we're lead to believe that the Austrian's just left the 10,000 dead and wounded on the field, and that there was a lot of blue-on-blue cannon fire, which tends to leave things like cannonballs and shells about the place.

i.e. It didn't happen. It was made up to sell some hack's book.

Who the fuck even thinks Hussars would buy alcohol from Gypsies?
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Akko on December 01, 2014, 01:55:29 am
There is a village in China whose inhabitants are descended from Roman legions.
What 's the name of the village?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liqian_%28village%29

Looks like there's not actually much evidence or academic support for the theory. Oh well, interesting all the same.

I heard that there were small amounts of genetic evidence linking the Caucasian DNA to Greece and the Italian Peninsula . I thought it very interesting. Also, there are descendants of Romans everywhere. It's estimated that about 1 million Brits are descended from Romans.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Saxon on December 01, 2014, 01:28:11 pm
What about that one country that went to war with 80 men and came back with 81.

#LetsMakeFriends
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: MrTiki on December 02, 2014, 12:06:38 am
Of the 10 most deadliest wars in all Human history, 8 of which were fought in China, the other 2 were the World Wars
I'm still relevant!
Three times more people died in 6 months to Spanish Influenza (~32 million in the Autumn of 1918) than the total of all military casualties throughout WWI.
It's still twice as many when you include civilian casualties.
3% of the global population were wiped out by that motherfucker.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Akko on December 02, 2014, 07:05:23 pm
On 10 February 1355, there was a dramatic falling out between students at Oxford University and local townsfolk after a student complained about the quality of drinks at a local tavern. As the situation escalated, serfs from the surrounding countryside poured in, crying: "Havac! Havoc! Smyt fast, give gode knocks!" The resulting conflict left 30 locals and 60 students dead.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Riddlez on December 03, 2014, 10:32:43 am
On 10 February 1355, there was a dramatic falling out between students at Oxford University and local townsfolk after a student complained about the quality of drinks at a local tavern. As the situation escalated, serfs from the surrounding countryside poured in, crying: "Havac! Havoc! Smyt fast, give gode knocks!" The resulting conflict left 30 locals and 60 students dead.

So that's why Cambridge are always smug towards dem Oxfords...
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: KL4R1N0G4MPR0S on December 05, 2014, 02:14:05 am
On 10 February 1355, there was a dramatic falling out between students at Oxford University and local townsfolk after a student complained about the quality of drinks at a local tavern. As the situation escalated, serfs from the surrounding countryside poured in, crying: "Havac! Havoc! Smyt fast, give gode knocks!" The resulting conflict left 30 locals and 60 students dead.

So that's why Cambridge are always smug towards dem Oxfords...
I would imagine that it's the other way round, at least in terms of location, quality of life, and history/culture of the Uni :P
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Shredder on December 05, 2014, 02:17:34 am
Read this today:
If you're ever embarrassed about making a mistake
Just remember in 1788 the Austrian army attacked itself and lost 10,000 men.


Corresponding with this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kar%C3%A1nsebes
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Nipplestockings on December 05, 2014, 06:29:26 am
Read this today:
If you're ever embarrassed about making a mistake
Just remember in 1788 the Austrian army attacked itself and lost 10,000 men.


Corresponding with this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kar%C3%A1nsebes

Nigga read the thread.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Shredder on December 05, 2014, 12:52:31 pm
Pfft oops
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Riddlez on December 07, 2014, 12:02:14 am
After the Emu War, how can people still take Australia seriously.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Killington on December 07, 2014, 12:48:53 am
After the Emu War, how can people still take Australia seriously.
Has anyone ever taken Australia seriously, with that ridiculous accent?
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Nipplestockings on December 07, 2014, 01:04:08 am
After the Emu War, how can people still take Australia seriously.
Has anyone ever taken Australia seriously, with that ridiculous accent?

This, nobody takes Australia seriously. Are they even real? Fairy tale?
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Betaknight on December 07, 2014, 01:56:18 am
Australians are what happens when you mix the Brits and Dutch together.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: EdwardC on December 07, 2014, 02:48:57 am
Some Japanese History
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDsdkoln59A&list=UUCODtTcd5M1JavPCOr_Uydg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2yT2nitGDk&list=UUCODtTcd5M1JavPCOr_Uydg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3frtoMaxZE&list=UUCODtTcd5M1JavPCOr_Uydg
[close]
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Nipplestockings on December 07, 2014, 02:58:17 am
Some Japanese History
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDsdkoln59A&list=UUCODtTcd5M1JavPCOr_Uydg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2yT2nitGDk&list=UUCODtTcd5M1JavPCOr_Uydg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3frtoMaxZE&list=UUCODtTcd5M1JavPCOr_Uydg
[close]

Jesus, this guy is such an autist.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Turin Turambar on December 07, 2014, 03:30:47 am
Yeah, that's what we watch today instead of reading history books.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Akko on December 07, 2014, 03:47:27 am
Yeah, that's what we watch today instead of reading history books.

I like the idea, but I prefer a book any day. Unless it was an extremely well done video explaining the event,era,etc.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Nipplestockings on December 07, 2014, 03:54:32 am
Yeah, that's what we watch today instead of reading history books.

I like the idea, but I prefer a book any day. Unless it was an extremely well done video explaining the event,era,etc.

Most history videos on youtube are like that one - made for middle schoolers. The problem with educational videos like that is that they have to operate under the assumption that the average person watching is not doing it for their own historical interest, but for school or entertainment purposes, therefore requiring them to tone down the technical historical talk a bit and make them more funny and goofy to keep people interested. This degrades the quality of the video quite a bit. This is something we can see quite clearly in John Green's Crash Course videos, which have the potential to be extremely educational and informative, but just end up being silly and dumbed down to capture audiences with an attention span not tailored for dense history. It's quite a shame - there are some good channels on youtube who focus more on analysis and discussion rather than basic level education, but they're few and far between. I wish more people were interested in history.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: PoWder on December 07, 2014, 10:30:56 pm
obama did benghazi
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Death by EMP on December 07, 2014, 11:09:34 pm
Some Japanese History
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDsdkoln59A&list=UUCODtTcd5M1JavPCOr_Uydg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2yT2nitGDk&list=UUCODtTcd5M1JavPCOr_Uydg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3frtoMaxZE&list=UUCODtTcd5M1JavPCOr_Uydg
[close]

Jesus, this guy is such an autist.
While his presentation is fucking balls, he actually has really great videos on gaming.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: joer5835 on December 12, 2014, 02:28:45 pm
This is actually still in effect.

British law states that if you shoot a Welshman with a longbow from the other side of the Welsh border, it's not murder.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: kpetschulat on December 13, 2014, 01:17:03 am
This is actually still in effect.

British law states that if you shoot a Welshman with a longbow from the other side of the Welsh border, it's not murder.

I don't think I understand correctly... Is the law saying if you shoot a Welshman in Wales with a longbow, you can't be tried for murder in England?
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Nipplestockings on December 13, 2014, 02:04:56 am
This is actually still in effect.

British law states that if you shoot a Welshman with a longbow from the other side of the Welsh border, it's not murder.

I don't think I understand correctly... Is the law saying if you shoot a Welshman in Wales with a longbow, you can't be tried for murder in England?

If you shoot a Welshman who is in Wales while you are standing on the English side of the border you can't be tried. Or at least that's my understanding of it. Meant to keep out invaders or whatever.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Colonel Howe on December 13, 2014, 02:41:52 am
god save the king
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Shredder on December 13, 2014, 02:43:57 am
Fun fact: Howe is actually a treasonous God-fearing loyalist. He plays a New English patriot disguise.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Colonel Howe on December 13, 2014, 12:53:46 pm
Fun fact: Howe is actually a treasonous God-fearing loyalist. He plays a New English patriot disguise.
No howe cum u out me
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: joer5835 on December 13, 2014, 05:15:17 pm
This is actually still in effect.

British law states that if you shoot a Welshman with a longbow from the other side of the Welsh border, it's not murder.

I don't think I understand correctly... Is the law saying if you shoot a Welshman in Wales with a longbow, you can't be tried for murder in England?

If you shoot a Welshman who is in Wales while you are standing on the English side of the border you can't be tried. Or at least that's my understanding of it. Meant to keep out invaders or whatever.
That's basically it.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: kpetschulat on December 13, 2014, 07:43:15 pm
This is actually still in effect.

British law states that if you shoot a Welshman with a longbow from the other side of the Welsh border, it's not murder.

I don't think I understand correctly... Is the law saying if you shoot a Welshman in Wales with a longbow, you can't be tried for murder in England?

If you shoot a Welshman who is in Wales while you are standing on the English side of the border you can't be tried. Or at least that's my understanding of it. Meant to keep out invaders or whatever.
That's basically it.

Ah, that's cool. I want to try it.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Ambiguous on January 27, 2015, 01:29:48 pm
After pope Gregory the IX associated cats with devil worship. Cats in europe were being exterminated by the thousands. That lead to a large boost in rat population which spread diseases such as the bubonic plague which killed 100 Million people, about 1/3 of all Europe's population.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: joer5835 on January 27, 2015, 02:13:40 pm
After pope Gregory the IX associated cats with devil worship. Cats in europe were being exterminated by the thousands. That lead to a large boost in rat population which spread diseases such as the bubonic plague which killed 100 Million people, about 1/3 of all Europe's population.

Uhm, Europe's population was only about 70 million around 1300....Yes it's true the plague killed 1/3 of the population, but the exact number is closer to 20 or 30 million.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: SamTheZamER on January 27, 2015, 02:22:07 pm
After pope Gregory the IX associated cats with devil worship. Cats in europe were being exterminated by the thousands. That lead to a large boost in rat population which spread diseases such as the bubonic plague which killed 100 Million people, about 1/3 of all Europe's population.

Uhm, Europe's population was only about 70 million around 1300....Yes it's true the plague killed 1/3 of the population, but the exact number is closer to 20 or 30 million.

Or was it?
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Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Ambiguous on January 27, 2015, 04:06:08 pm
Just to clarify, thats in the world not just europe. Yes 1/3 of europeans but in total at this time frame the estimate number of deaths caused by the bubonic plague around the world are 1000.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Duuring on January 27, 2015, 04:38:46 pm
Probably shouldn't have put '1/3 of all Europe's population' behind '100 million people' then.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Olafson on January 27, 2015, 05:10:02 pm
The Moonlanding was neither staged nor did it happen. In reality a race of Hyper Intelligent Aliens inserted this memory into our brains. We were their first test of this new technology. Ever since then the Aliens are messing around with our minds.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: joer5835 on January 27, 2015, 06:24:17 pm
The Moonlanding was neither staged nor did it happen. In reality a race of Hyper Intelligent Aliens inserted this memory into our brains. We were their first test of this new technology. Ever since then the Aliens are messing around with our minds.

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Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Lavergne on March 04, 2015, 02:07:05 pm
Numbers give or take and I don't know how true this is but given how crazy people are over here I don't expect much. I read something sometime ago at an unknown location last year how about 12 million Americans believe Lizard people control world politics and how every politician and person of nobility are lizards.
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Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Nipplestockings on March 04, 2015, 02:14:36 pm
The fact that you entertained this possibility to the point where you deemed it worthy of posting is truly astounding.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: KurassierNixon on March 04, 2015, 02:18:33 pm
In the war of 1812 at New Orleans The US had help from pirates who served as artillery
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Lavergne on March 04, 2015, 02:31:02 pm
The fact that you entertained this possibility to the point where you deemed it worthy of posting is truly astounding.
Well its either between the really crazy stuff or the things that are slightly less crazy. Pick your poison.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Riddlez on March 04, 2015, 09:07:28 pm
The fact that you entertained this possibility to the point where you deemed it worthy of posting is truly astounding.
Well its either between the really crazy stuff or the things that are slightly less crazy. Pick your poison.

Cyanide, please.

In the war of 1812 at New Orleans The US had help from pirates who served as artillery

Meaning that the pirates served as actual cannons, ammunition or artillery crew?
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Johann on March 05, 2015, 07:14:03 am
The fact that you entertained this possibility to the point where you deemed it worthy of posting is truly astounding.
Well its either between the really crazy stuff or the things that are slightly less crazy. Pick your poison.

Cyanide, please.

In the war of 1812 at New Orleans The US had help from pirates who served as artillery

Meaning that the pirates served as actual cannons, ammunition or artillery crew?

Cannons. They served as Cannons.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: The Mighty McLovin on September 28, 2015, 09:38:07 pm
During the First World War, British spies used semen as invisible ink.

Humans appeared 200,000 years ago. Written records begin 6,000 years ago. That means 97% of history is lost.

In medieval Baghdad, if you translated a book into Arabic, you'd be given that book's weight in gold.

The biggest genocide in human history didn't occur in Nazi Germany, but on American soil. 100 million native Americans were slaughtered and lost their homeland.

It has been calculated that in the last 3,500 years, there have only been 230 years of peace throughout the civilised world.

It is claimed that during the Battle of Stalingrad, more German soldiers died trying to unsuccessfully capture this one building from 25 Soviet soldiers and 10 civilians defending it than died in the entire invasion of Paris.

Genghis Khan was responsible for the deaths of so many people that the Earth's carbon levels dropped by almost 700 million tonnes.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Rhen on September 30, 2015, 09:15:08 am
Genghis Khan was responsible for the deaths of so many people that the Earth's carbon levels dropped by almost 700 million tonnes.

They should consider this at the U.N. to save the atmosphere.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Nipplestockings on September 30, 2015, 01:55:08 pm
I say we genocide the Germans this time. Although the kebabs are are takig care of it for us.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Colonel Howe on October 12, 2015, 06:18:48 pm
I say we genocide the Germans this time. Although the kebabs are are takig care of it for us.
oy voy take the snausage
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Cazasar on October 12, 2015, 06:20:04 pm
I say we genocide the Germans this time. Although the kebabs are are takig care of it for us.
triggered.

Why not let the Indians kill americans ?

Or the other Indians kill some brits. Or we all commit mass suicide by listening to the next One Direction album ?
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: bobertini on October 12, 2015, 06:29:46 pm
1944 nazi scientists created d-ix a drug to create an army of super soldiers. they even tested it on prisoners,and  they marched 55 miles with gear without stopping. but thank god the war ended before the soldiers were supplied with it.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Cazasar on October 12, 2015, 06:33:23 pm
1944 nazi scientists created d-ix a drug to create an army of super soldiers. they even tested it on prisoners,and  they marched 55 miles with gear without stopping. but thank god the war ended before the soldiers were supplied with it.
Then the americans stole it and made Captain America.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: bobertini on October 12, 2015, 06:36:47 pm
1944 nazi scientists created d-ix a drug to create an army of super soldiers. they even tested it on prisoners,and  they marched 55 miles with gear without stopping. but thank god the war ended before the soldiers were supplied with it.
Then the americans stole it and made Captain America.
i giggled
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Frederik on October 12, 2015, 06:38:20 pm
1944 nazi scientists created d-ix a drug to create an army of super soldiers. they even tested it on prisoners,and  they marched 55 miles with gear without stopping. but thank god the war ended before the soldiers were supplied with it.
It was just a bunch of drugs together (cocaine, meth and some other stuff), you wont survive taking it for a longer time.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Commissar Jdf on October 12, 2015, 09:46:10 pm
1944 nazi scientists created d-ix a drug to create an army of super soldiers. they even tested it on prisoners,and  they marched 55 miles with gear without stopping. but thank god the war ended before the soldiers were supplied with it.
It was just a bunch of drugs together (cocaine, meth and some other stuff), you wont survive taking it for a longer time.

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Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Doge on October 14, 2015, 01:18:05 am
Adolf Hitler was not born in Germany; he was Austrian.

Adolf Hitler's grandmother was Jewish

Adolf Hitler's first lady-friend was Jewish

Coincidence? I think NOT
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Nipplestockings on October 14, 2015, 01:34:07 am
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Adolf Hitler's grandmother was Jewish

Adolf Hitler's first lady-friend was Jewish

Why do people keep repeating this garbage lol
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: #Beaver on October 14, 2015, 02:54:03 am
Aliens saved us from a nuclear disaster at Chernobyl.
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Ambiguous on October 14, 2015, 10:19:19 am
He's alive D:
Title: Re: Historical Facts you mightv'e not known about
Post by: Colonel Howe on October 17, 2015, 06:48:58 pm
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Adolf Hitler's grandmother was Jewish

Adolf Hitler's first lady-friend was Jewish

Why do people keep repeating this garbage lol
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