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Title: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Vincenzo on June 14, 2014, 02:25:10 pm
Hey guys!.

We at the FSE team are planning to start a new Union Infantry American Civil War group.
were currently on the lookout for people that are interested in participating with us.


Were based in the Netherlands and Germany, and we speak both English, Dutch and German.
The plan is to participate in some events in Germany with other groups and perhaps a event or two in the Netherlands.
Outside of normal reenacting we will do promotional work for our upcoming game Battle Cry of Freedom, Members will get access to Business days on events like Gamescom in Cologne.

It will be an open group, you can be member of another reenactment group as you wish.

Were actively looking for people that are interested in participating, preferably aged above 16, or if you want to have (replica) firearms you have to be over 18.
There will not necessary be big costs involved, we can supply you with starter gear and uniforms from our depot if necessary or help you find the minimum needed uniforms for under 150 euro.
There will be no membership fees.

To participate in events you can drive to us, use public transport or some members in our group will be able to pick certain people up on-route to bring to events and promotional events.


Right now were in the starting stages of setting up this group.

If you have any interest at all to help our company with promotion or are interested in trying out reenactment contact me!

You can reply here with any questions or others and you can always contact me on steam;
https://steamcommunity.com/id/Vincenzo

Cheers,

Maxim "Vincenzo".
Title: Re: New Europe Civil War group.
Post by: Duuring on June 14, 2014, 02:26:38 pm
And so it begins.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: zac on June 14, 2014, 02:33:47 pm
*dramatic overtone* Enter Lord Duuring....
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: joer5835 on June 14, 2014, 02:34:47 pm
As much as I'd like to try it, I don't think it's a good idea right now considering I'm still working on my NW impression :P
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Vincenzo on June 14, 2014, 02:43:36 pm
You can use depot gear and participate Joer, were mostly looking for more people, ABLE BODIED MEN :)
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: joer5835 on June 14, 2014, 02:53:21 pm
I'll see, maybe if I have some time and there's an event not too far away. After all, I am depending on carpooling with other people.

I guess I could also take a train as a last resort, as long as it's in the NL.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Vincenzo on June 14, 2014, 02:55:41 pm
:) great.

Right now just looking for how many people we can get intrested. then we know what we need to gather and set up.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: AeroNinja on June 14, 2014, 02:56:10 pm
Veel geluk met dit Vincenzo. T'ziet er leuk uit. :D
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: joer5835 on June 14, 2014, 03:05:24 pm
Any idea on what unit/state?
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Furrnox on June 14, 2014, 03:08:26 pm
So this is where our donations are going <3 *sarcasm*
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Duuring on June 14, 2014, 03:09:58 pm
Exactly.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Vincenzo on June 14, 2014, 03:15:52 pm
We have not yet selected a unit or state. yet... good suggestions are welcome!

And I can assure you no donation money is used for this. donations are not enough to cover for game making costs and we are putting our own money into the development.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Onii on June 14, 2014, 04:52:46 pm
I have been thinking about this for a while, but due to money and such...  :'(

Though I might go to Gamescom again this year, so gimme a shoutout to where you guys are  :D
(I'll try and find a kepi to wear ;))
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Olafson on June 14, 2014, 06:16:50 pm
As Vince said, if people are interested we can provide depot equipment for you, until you have enough money or time to buy your own!
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Onii on June 14, 2014, 07:56:24 pm
Well I'm definally interested in participating but I've never tried anything like this before, so expect some noobishness  :P

Also, would require me to get a black powder license...
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Olafson on June 14, 2014, 09:11:38 pm
Where do you live. ?
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Onii on June 14, 2014, 10:27:30 pm
Denmark
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Captain America on June 14, 2014, 11:23:36 pm
Well this has my support! Fingers crossed I can nip across the channel and lend a hand with the unit!
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: George385 on June 15, 2014, 12:14:47 am
i like the idea, and i would be willing to help out (even though i am a Confederate), but i dont like it that much to pay all that money for flights, hotels etc for one or two events, i probably would if it was like a massive reenactment like Gettysburg last year, but if im correct, not many EU ACW reenactors out there.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Captain America on June 15, 2014, 01:39:17 am
There's enough, though obviously not as many as the US. Tends to be the Germans and us Brits who have a crack at it
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Vincenzo on June 15, 2014, 12:16:19 pm
There are many events all over Germany which we could attend. Also there is every year a quite big one in Denmark, There is a small one in the Netherlands every year too.

Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Ted on June 15, 2014, 03:21:42 pm
How many guys are you in the moment?
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Vincenzo on June 15, 2014, 03:37:58 pm
so far we have attracted 6 people behind this idea. but we will advertise it better in a blog perhaps.

It has been decided That we will portray the 6th Maine Volunteer Infantry Regiment.

Were in the process of gathering the depot gear at this time which will be plentiful for anyone that wants to check this great hobby out completely for free.

Though it is preferred that you are willing to invest a bit of money into your own stuff after a while.


Biggest issue at this stage is still getting enough guns.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Onii on June 15, 2014, 03:53:49 pm
Would prolly need some kinda fake gun until I can get a hold on the black powder license.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Ted on June 15, 2014, 03:59:43 pm
I really would like to do Reenactment, but a) I'm not 18 yet  >:( b) I would like to do ACW Reenactment, but ACW in Germany... you know lol but Napolonic Reenactment also, but I don't like this guys wearing really crazy stuff, so how to choose?
Though it is preferred that you are willing to invest a bit of money into your own stuff after a while.

I would say that's clear, isn't it?

Btw, I'm making a hauberk, I don't even know why I'm making a hauberk if I'm going to reenact ACW  ;D
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: joer5835 on June 15, 2014, 04:05:01 pm
Luckily I'm turning 18 in 3 months ^^

You are allowed to use a a musket during events at 18 in Germany, right?

Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Ted on June 15, 2014, 04:16:42 pm
Lucky joer  ;D
Yes, you are allowed to buy muskets when you are 18. To use muskets you need a black powder licence also, of course.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Onii on June 15, 2014, 04:23:35 pm
Would you need to get one for each country tho?
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Vincenzo on June 15, 2014, 04:27:32 pm
If your are a foreigner you do not need a black-powder license.

You can freely walk around with these guns in Germany, if your 18+..
Fire them you can only if your a foreigner or a German with black-powder license.

If you are under 18 you will be sporting a non-firing dummie that actually does look quite good:
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fecx.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F41%252BhSG3%252BmsL._SL1500_.jpg&hash=b4680dc93d99dba9ccece866057c4f57eccd98b3)

Ted why don't you join us!
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: joer5835 on June 15, 2014, 04:28:26 pm
Gu laws are different in each country. I know my unit here in the Netherlands has a permit for the entire unit and it's members, so not every single individual has to get a license.

Edit: Oh that's exactly like my 1853 dummie!
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Ted on June 15, 2014, 04:36:54 pm
Vincenzo I REALLY  would like to join your group, I've been interested in reenactment since the age of 11, but I'm 15 yet, so I can't do that now, I'm just walking around and doing something like peaceful reenacting wearing historical clothes during a historical feast in my town  :-\  - but I really would like to visit your group when I'm 18.

Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: joer5835 on June 15, 2014, 04:38:31 pm
You could always go as a drummer or use a dummie. If you really want to do it, just go for it. At least that's what I did.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Ted on June 15, 2014, 04:41:16 pm
So I should tell my parents "Hey mom, let's drive to the Netherlands, meet people you don't know and let me do Reenacting there, they aren't aiming at me, they are just shooting into the air!" - I don't have problems with that, but I think my parents would have lol  ::)
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: joer5835 on June 15, 2014, 04:44:09 pm
Most of the events are going to be in Germany.

And yeah, my parents were sceptical too, but they came along with me (as spectators) and when the met the other people in my unit and found out that they were nice people, they were okay with it.

But of course, it remains your decision.....
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Captain America on June 15, 2014, 05:01:56 pm
Just a thought, it might be an idea to spend a season developing the unit, maybe doing some living history displays and making contacts with other groups. Full reenactments needs seasoned veterans to help drill and look after the new fish, and considering most seasoned reenactors are in units already if you spend some time developing the skills and fully learning all the drills inside and out by next season you'll be as good as any units out there!
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Duuring on June 15, 2014, 05:15:51 pm
Just a thought, it might be an idea to spend a season developing the unit, maybe doing some living history displays and making contacts with other groups. Full reenactments needs seasoned veterans to help drill and look after the new fish, and considering most seasoned reenactors are in units already if you spend some time developing the skills and fully learning all the drills inside and out by next season you'll be as good as any units out there!

YES

FINALLY

VINCE

LISTEN TO THIS DUDE
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Vincenzo on June 15, 2014, 05:47:45 pm
Which is exactly what we are going to do.

Were building up interests, getting some stuff together, visiting an event perhaps as spectator, getting involved with the German groups and so on.


Ted you can participate with a dummy, this is not a big issue.
As for your parents, why don't they visit as spectator a local event with you..

We will buy a regimental drum, so if you want to become a drummer boy, you can! :)
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Captain America on June 15, 2014, 05:50:15 pm
Grand so, well if I get the dollar to cross the channel I'll be sure to join up with you hardy Maine men, long live the 6th!
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: DeoVindice61 on June 15, 2014, 06:24:21 pm
Just a thought, it might be an idea to spend a season developing the unit, maybe doing some living history displays and making contacts with other groups. Full reenactments needs seasoned veterans to help drill and look after the new fish, and considering most seasoned reenactors are in units already if you spend some time developing the skills and fully learning all the drills inside and out by next season you'll be as good as any units out there!


(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmakeameme.org%2Fmedia%2Fcreated%2Fhes-right-you-qmbtt8.jpg&hash=ffb801cf398668075e2eecc0f329701ac96edb58)

I highly recommend making an "alliance" or some sorts of connection with the German Mess. They can be become your mentor and show you the rope in person. I would love to come and help you all but alas, there's a giant ocean blocking me way, i only can help with the authenticity and uniforms such. But definitely try make some connection with the German mess. These guys are great.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Captain America on June 15, 2014, 06:48:01 pm
Can confirm the German Mess are the best bet, my 19th lads went on an event run by them and they have only good things to say! Very friendly and they've a reputation for helping out other units with start-up etc.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Millander on June 15, 2014, 07:28:49 pm
We have not yet selected a unit or state. yet... good suggestions are welcome!

And I can assure you no donation money is used for this. donations are not enough to cover for game making costs and we are putting our own money into the development.

Here are two AoP suggestions

29th New York "1st German Infantry"
45th New York "5th German Rifles"
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Duuring on June 15, 2014, 08:17:20 pm
Grand so, well if I get the dollar to cross the channel I'll be sure to join up with you hardy Maine men, long live the 6th!

Wait, so the group ís gonna do 6th Maine?
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: joer5835 on June 15, 2014, 08:21:49 pm
Apparantly :P
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Duuring on June 15, 2014, 08:24:10 pm
He, it was I who came up with the suggestion.  :P
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: joer5835 on June 15, 2014, 08:27:21 pm
Oh wow, why Maine?
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Captain America on June 15, 2014, 08:59:56 pm
because the group intends to do a Mainestream impression (oh Christ I'm funny!)
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Vincenzo on June 15, 2014, 09:03:01 pm
whahaha so true.. nah.


We had a lot of bickering over what regiment to pick, we wanted something that did participate in much of the war, and that was not too famous, and also that no other group was already reenacting them.

Then Duuring had the genius idea which we liked immediately.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6th_Maine_Volunteer_Infantry_Regiment
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Duuring on June 15, 2014, 09:03:38 pm
I saw a picture of them in Osprey "Army of the Potomac" and I loved the 'generic' look, as well as the use of both Springfield and Enfields rifles within the same company. They saw service in nearly every campaign of the Eastern Theater from '61 until '64, when their 3-years-enlistment had run out. Part of the men re-enlisted and became part of the 1st Maine Veterans, as which they saw service in '65.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: DeoVindice61 on June 15, 2014, 09:08:34 pm
because the group intends to do a Mainestream impression (oh Christ I'm funny!)





oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo good one
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Onii on June 15, 2014, 09:14:22 pm
Guess I might aswell look at a kepi to wear?

Actually, what would be most appropiate, kepi or forage cap?
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: DeoVindice61 on June 15, 2014, 09:19:07 pm
Guess I might aswell look at a kepi to wear?

Actually, what would be most appropiate, kepi or forage cap?


forage cap all the way.   


Kepis are for rebs or some rich union private whos willing to buy a kepi instead of sweets or food from the sutlers.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Vincenzo on June 15, 2014, 09:35:25 pm
Yep, forage caps!
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Ted on June 15, 2014, 09:57:41 pm
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia1.shmoop.com%2Fmedia%2Fimages%2Foriginal%2F6th-maine.gif&hash=d617303c97c811e7b7e58d17f10f99fde888fcf0)

I think the 6th Maine is a very good choice, this regiment took part in many battles, but isn't that famous, so it's fine for me.

Also check this:
http://www.civilwararchive.com/Unreghst/unmeinf1.htm#6thinf (http://www.civilwararchive.com/Unreghst/unmeinf1.htm#6thinf)
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Onii on June 15, 2014, 10:05:19 pm
Nice and generic uniform. I like it!
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Duuring on June 15, 2014, 10:05:57 pm
That's the picture. Vince, can you give the high-quality picture to the ACW boys here?

I need you people to identify the type of forage caps the men are wearing. I think I see some square-cut vizor caps.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Vincenzo on June 15, 2014, 10:11:31 pm
Here is it, click it for even bigger version:

Spoiler
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.nara.gov%2Fstillpix%2F111-b%2F524587a.jpg&hash=9f780e31e1d2afd55e4c62d30c5a2ceb24d9f279) (http://media.nara.gov/stillpix/111-b/524587a.jpg)
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Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Ted on June 15, 2014, 10:19:36 pm
Lol there is the photographer's fingerprint right in that drummer's face  * happy because of having discovered senceless detail *

Interesting, one soldier doesn't have a bayonet - someone should hit that quartermaster!

*Being happy because of having posted senceless stuff*

 ;D
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: AeroNinja on June 15, 2014, 10:22:48 pm
I need to do this.... Seems so epic re-enacting and so on. :D
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Captain America on June 15, 2014, 10:25:19 pm
I'm more interested in the private with high boots on, and the gaiters in the front rank, not sure I've seen footwear like that before
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Duuring on June 15, 2014, 10:26:35 pm
The private with the 'high boots' actually wears really long gaiters.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Captain America on June 15, 2014, 10:28:10 pm
So they are, some crazy camouflaged gap between the two, damn you have good eyes. Still, wasn't sure gaiters were all that common
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: DeoVindice61 on June 15, 2014, 10:33:01 pm
That's the picture. Vince, can you give the high-quality picture to the ACW boys here?

I need you people to identify the type of forage caps the men are wearing. I think I see some square-cut vizor caps.



New flash, there isnt a "type" of forage cap, sure sutlers brand them in several types. But in the army, anything goes. So any types would work just fine. As long its forage cap.   


Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Onii on June 16, 2014, 01:16:56 pm
Got some EU Sutlers you guys can recomment?
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Vincenzo on June 16, 2014, 02:18:00 pm
If you want anything contact me in steam, were going to order a load of stuffs soonish.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: DeoVindice61 on June 16, 2014, 04:38:17 pm
Got some EU Sutlers you guys can recomment?


http://www.lederarsenal.com/en/pages/bakery/forage-cap-typ-ii-213.php


Leder Arsenal is probably the only best EU sutler you can get your hand on.   They're accepted and recommended by Authentic Campaigner,  they have another cap as well. check that out. 
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Duuring on June 16, 2014, 04:43:25 pm
I support that forage cap.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Ted on June 16, 2014, 05:04:36 pm
Hmm, but The Regimental Quartermaste is cheaper - I'm not sure about the quality, but a forage cap is much cheaper: http://www.regtqm.com/Hat-Forage-or-Bummer-Style-1858-Model-US-or-CS-p/hat-1.htm

You also can get a Uniform package which includes the basic clothing for only 272.50$:  http://www.regtqm.com/Basic-US-Recruit-Uniform-Package-p/package-11.htm 

As I've said, it's cheaper, but it's not EU based. Did anyone buy something there?
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Duuring on June 16, 2014, 05:06:30 pm
I strongly advise any who are interested not to buy anything before approval is given. Remember that this is technically only an idea and it would be a possible waist of money.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: DeoVindice61 on June 16, 2014, 05:14:11 pm
Hmm, but The Regimental Quartermaste is cheaper - I'm not sure about the quality, but a forage cap is much cheaper: http://www.regtqm.com/Hat-Forage-or-Bummer-Style-1858-Model-US-or-CS-p/hat-1.htm

You also can get a Uniform package which includes the basic clothing for only 272.50$:  http://www.regtqm.com/Basic-US-Recruit-Uniform-Package-p/package-11.htm 

As I've said, it's cheaper, but it's not EU based. Did anyone buy something there?


Regimental is in US. Dunno if you want that shipping.

I only buy tins stuff from there, the campaigner section. Great Ulrich stuff.

Uniforms? Stay away from it, not worth your money, you'll look like some boxy cosplayer. 

Brogans? they're A-OK.  Leder Arsenal is better. They are the best in fact. Tons of folks in US order brogans and jackboot from them.



Think about it, a sack coat should cost you $120+   if its cheap, that mean the quality is cheap and unauthentic. 


FUNFACT: Man made fibers uniform (regimental) melt to your skin if you ever catch on fire while historical accurate one don't.    ;D
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Ililsa on June 16, 2014, 05:15:42 pm
I strongly advise any who are interested not to buy anything before approval is given. Remember that this is technically only an idea and it would be a possible waist of money.

True as fuck. Even when the idea is motion, check with someone more knowledgeable before you buy something. It'll suck if you spend a few hundred on your uniform only to look crap because of the quality compared to everyone else, or the wrong buttons or fabric.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: DeoVindice61 on June 16, 2014, 05:17:44 pm
I strongly advise any who are interested not to buy anything before approval is given. Remember that this is technically only an idea and it would be a possible waist of money.

True as fuck. Even when the idea is motion, check with someone more knowledgeable before you buy something. It'll suck if you spend a few hundred on your uniform only to look crap because of the quality compared to everyone else, or the wrong buttons or fabric.



waste*  silly duuring. 

but yeah 1+ 
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Ted on June 16, 2014, 05:22:44 pm
I strongly advise any who are interested not to buy anything before approval is given. Remember that this is technically only an idea and it would be a possible waist of money.
I think everyone won't buy anything, isn't it clear buying something at this point would be silly  ???

Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: DeoVindice61 on June 16, 2014, 05:34:19 pm
I strongly advise any who are interested not to buy anything before approval is given. Remember that this is technically only an idea and it would be a possible waist of money.
I think everyone won't buy anything, isn't it clear buying something at this point would be silly  ???


for quality, do check Leder Arsenal, they're approved by fine lads in Authentic Campaigner forum. 


if you dont mind US.

http://www.njsekela.com/ (http://www.njsekela.com/)  I've seen quite a few german customers making review for Sekela, so he does international.

http://www.wwandcompany.com/ (http://www.wwandcompany.com/)  This is my personal favorite sutler. Brian White and Dan Wambaugh are execllent to discuss custom project or whatever. These guys rocks. If you have sewing skill, i recommend their kits. They come in clear and photo guide and  customer service is available to help. 


Just look through, get the idea of quality.   

Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Duuring on June 16, 2014, 05:36:52 pm
waste*  silly duuring. 

but yeah 1+

Damndamndamndamndamndamnmdanmdandhdmngh
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Ted on June 16, 2014, 07:01:14 pm
So, I would say 2500 - 3000$ for a high-quality basic equipment? (Brogans, complete uniform, cap box, cartridge box, belts, haversack, bayonet with scabbard, rifle and smaller things like cups and so on)
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: DeoVindice61 on June 16, 2014, 07:02:40 pm
So, I would say 2500 - 3000$ for a high-quality basic equipment? (Brogans, complete uniform, cap box, cartridge box, belts, haversack, bayonet with scabbard, rifle and smaller things like cups and so on)


Bingo.   That is, if you want to be quality and authentic. 

Edit: Also it is ok to be incomplete for awhile. dont blow all your money at once. Wait for good deals or sales.  It took me one year and half to have a proper union kit. Dont feel pressured to buy everything at once.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Captain America on June 16, 2014, 07:32:55 pm
My current uniform is incomplete at best, but my unit helps out. Never ever ever buy before it's affordable and before you're sure of the quality, otherwise it's a waste of a lot of money.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: joer5835 on June 16, 2014, 07:42:35 pm
Well at least you Yankee-Doodle-Dee ACW boys can get everything from a suttler, my Napoleonic Dutch marines kit will have to be custom made by a tailor.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Captain America on June 16, 2014, 07:45:30 pm
#jealous. Remember Ted, quality today means your uniform lasts as long as you need it to, cheapness today means you get a month and have to spend the extra on replacements. It's always best to do quality over quantity.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: DeoVindice61 on June 16, 2014, 07:51:42 pm
#jealous. Remember Ted, quality today means your uniform lasts as long as you need it to, cheapness today means you get a month and have to spend the extra on replacements. It's always best to do quality over quantity.



Amen! Preach it pardner. 

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Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Ted on June 16, 2014, 07:54:20 pm
 @Captain America: I know, quality allways is better then quantity - an uniform should last very long and should be realistic. But I'm not going to buy an uniform until this group really is founded, so....  ;)

Btw, I own a gray, woolen blanket. I think there were different blankets, so in fact I could use it for ACW reenactment, right?

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Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: DeoVindice61 on June 16, 2014, 08:05:06 pm
@Captain America: I know, quality allways is better then quantity - an uniform should last very long and should be realistic. But I'm not going to buy an uniform until this group really is founded, so....  ;)

Btw, I own a gray, woolen blanket. I think there were different blankets, so in fact I could use it for ACW reenactment, right?

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If you join this unit, you will need federal issue blanket.  BUT that blanket is good, perfectly acceptable. You can go confederate with that. 

to events, i tend to bring two blanket. It get really cold at night, I dont use sleeping bag.  It's usually one issue blanket and other "sent from home" 


Everyone in the hobby tend to have 2-4 blanket sometime lol.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Captain America on June 16, 2014, 08:32:42 pm

If you join this unit, you will need federal issue blanket.  BUT that blanket is good, perfectly acceptable. You can go confederate with that. 

to events, i tend to bring two blanket. It get really cold at night, I dont use sleeping bag.  It's usually one issue blanket and other "sent from home" 


Everyone in the hobby tend to have 2-4 blanket sometime lol.

I do the same because when it's pissing it down in the middle of English field you desperately want a blanket sent from home. Until you sort your uniform properly you can use that as a pretty authentic blanket. Get a federal issue blanket last if you've got that as a stand in!
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Olafson on June 16, 2014, 09:56:24 pm
Well I am not looking to get the most authentic and expensive stuff atm. It is my 2nd impression and I do not want to spend to much money on it yet.

IF we decide to do it we will provide depot gear (Inlcuding shelter tents, blankets and uniforms) for atleast 5 people. That stuff will obviously not be the highest quality, but we plan to replace it later once this whole thing is up and running properly.

I know, you guys recommend buying proper stuff from the start, but I rather get into it using cheap stuff for now, and then upgrading it later. Money certainly wont be a problem in the future, so that is fine with us.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: DeoVindice61 on June 16, 2014, 10:12:22 pm
Well I am not looking to get the most authentic and expensive stuff atm. It is my 2nd impression and I do not want to spend to much money on it yet.

IF we decide to do it we will provide depot gear (Inlcuding shelter tents, blankets and uniforms) for atleast 5 people. That stuff will obviously not be the highest quality, but we plan to replace it later once this whole thing is up and running properly.

I know, you guys recommend buying proper stuff from the start, but I rather get into it using cheap stuff for now, and then upgrading it later. Money certainly wont be a problem in the future, so that is fine with us.


be sure you look sharp anyway, mainstream uniform has tendency to make you look like cosplayers or some sorts.


I started out with mainstream kit and was "saved" by a progressive reenactor, i followed his guide and saved up money, when i went to Gburg 150th, i bought tons of quality stuff and my dad who dropped me off hadnt seen me for awhile. When he came to get me, he was shocked with how i looked. His first comment, "You dont look like your in costume anymore"   


Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Olafson on June 16, 2014, 10:16:13 pm
Yeh, I am looking forward to buying proper stuff if I am ever going to the US for an event, but as my 2nd impression in Europe, I do not want to spend too much money on it.
It is everyones own decision to buy either bad or good stuff and I do not blame anyone for buying bad stuff. After all, this is just a hobby and it is mostly for the fun.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: DeoVindice61 on June 16, 2014, 11:25:09 pm
Yeh, I am looking forward to buying proper stuff if I am ever going to the US for an event, but as my 2nd impression in Europe, I do not want to spend too much money on it.
It is everyones own decision to buy either bad or good stuff and I do not blame anyone for buying bad stuff. After all, this is just a hobby and it is mostly for the fun.
 


/inner historian cringes 


for fun?   ok.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: munky-wunky on June 17, 2014, 01:13:21 am
man....
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Landrik on June 17, 2014, 04:51:09 am
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Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: zac on June 17, 2014, 05:08:18 am
^
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Ted on June 17, 2014, 08:38:51 am
I think it would be an great idea to talk to members/officers of the German Mess. Maybe an alliance would be possible? So we can participate in their trainings and fight in battles together. I think we would have to join their regiment of course, but maybe it's possible to stay together with them, but also to do own events? This makes it easier to learn all the drill and so on. I think if there are 6 people who want to join together, they also accept people who don't speak german. Also there would be one big european alliance, which makes the reenactment more interesting in general.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Vincenzo on June 17, 2014, 08:48:43 am
I have looked at German Mess their rules and it's a bit insane, defiantly not a group I would like to participate with... Elitism just drips from it Also it seems all their members are 30+ which is a bit less fun.

Thankfully there are a bunch of other German groups That are very open to people. Were getting in contact with them to participate a few events as enlisted men using our own uniforms.


You don't have to buy anything right now, right now its simply gathering interest for starting a new group.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Ted on June 17, 2014, 08:50:31 am
I have looked at German Mess their rules and it's a bit insane, defiantly not a group I would like to participate with... Elitism just drips from it Also it seems all their members are 30+ which is a bit less fun.

You are right with that, true  ::)
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: DeoVindice61 on June 17, 2014, 09:14:07 am
hahahaha elitism and insane rules.     

awkward when the rules are common in US and personally meeting the German Mess at Gettysburg went well and they were super friendly. 


as for the age thing, time to get used to it. That is the common age in ACW reenacting.  Now you get why i have growing boredom of ACW lately.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Landrik on June 17, 2014, 09:22:25 am
I don't know of a single unit that are under 30 as the majority members for ACW. Unless they're a Boy Scout troop or Military Academy guys.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: DeoVindice61 on June 17, 2014, 09:37:07 am
I don't know of a single unit that are under 30 as the majority members for ACW. Unless they're a Boy Scout troop or Military Academy guys.


Same here, the youngest members of my battalion are 15th Wisconsin, because the boy scouts fell in.  Disregarding the boy scouts, its back to 40+ and such.  I'm currently the only active 18 years old member of 1st Illinois battalion. We have one 16 years old and rest are over 30. Quite a good numbers over 50 i must say.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Vincenzo on June 18, 2014, 09:56:15 am
Interesting, in Napoleonic here in Europe there are a lot more young people aged under 26.


Anyway there are other Civil War groups here that we can join for a few events so no worries there.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: munky-wunky on June 18, 2014, 05:51:26 pm
In my Soivet group there is at least 6 guys in the group who are between 17-20

and In my ACW group there are also 5 guys in the gorup who are between 16-19

Man there are plenty of younger guys in both or at least I have noticed. That has been my experience.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: DeoVindice61 on June 18, 2014, 05:52:18 pm
And they're farb-mainstream.   


Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Wolff on June 18, 2014, 05:54:58 pm
be southrons and I am with you :P
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: joer5835 on June 18, 2014, 06:08:32 pm
In my unit we have 6 people under 18, that includes me. Then we have roughly 4-5 people between 18-35 and a couple of 50+ (That includes both our officers)
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: DeoVindice61 on June 18, 2014, 06:09:58 pm
In my WW2 unit, everyone is 16-19    Unit Commander : 35
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: joer5835 on June 18, 2014, 06:13:23 pm
Our youngest active member (Some guy occasionally brings his kids along, but they don't go onto the battlefield) is 14.

Luckily I'm turning 18 in 3 months, cause gunz gunz gunz.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: munky-wunky on June 20, 2014, 12:04:23 am
And they're farb-mainstream.

bla bla bla bla  nobody gives a shit, oh wait except  you....   stitch Nazi.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Duuring on June 20, 2014, 12:21:47 am
And they're farb-mainstream.

bla bla bla bla  nobody gives a shit, oh wait except  you....   stitch Nazi.

I hereby bestow upon Ethan the honour this armband

Spoiler
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Heil!
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: munky-wunky on June 20, 2014, 12:24:22 am
I second that motion.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Duuring on June 20, 2014, 12:27:52 am
Nah. I like Ethan. I like Ethan's view upon Re-enactment. 'Stitch nazi' is just a title used for people who know about stuff, by people who think they do.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Devmc99 on June 20, 2014, 12:48:06 am
Deo, my ACW group has about 4 members including me that are under 18 (may be more). There are musicians that are under 16 though. For the rest there are some members in their 30's or 40's. The 3 kids that were my age (16) were really awesome. So the group isnt bad at all age wise, to what your comparing to the rest of the ACW units.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Duuring on June 20, 2014, 12:59:11 am
28th Mass, right?
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Millander on June 20, 2014, 01:26:31 am
Did some research and I really dig the unit choice.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: DeoVindice61 on June 20, 2014, 01:41:03 am
My reb unit is mix of teenagers and middle aged men. Good crowd. Going to look forward working with them in July.


Anyway "stitch nazis" is merely a term that farbs revert to when they find themselves unable to combat authentic evidence. A debate coward's way out.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Duuring on June 20, 2014, 01:43:20 am
Anyway "stitch nazis" is merely a term that farbs revert to when they find themselves unable to combat authentic evidence. A debate coward's way out.

Hmmmmjaaaay
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Devmc99 on June 20, 2014, 01:56:31 am
28th Mass, right?
Yes, a guy called Evil_Irish here is also in the unit. I do not know if he posts on the historical discussion part of Fse though.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: munky-wunky on June 20, 2014, 05:39:25 am
did i mention i met him?
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: Devmc99 on June 20, 2014, 05:49:38 am
did i mention i met him?
ya
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: DeoVindice61 on June 20, 2014, 06:05:03 am
did i mention i met him?


3 time you sexy motherfucker.
Title: Re: New European-based Union ACW group.
Post by: munky-wunky on June 20, 2014, 06:10:23 am
did i mention i met him?


3 time you sexy motherfucker.

now how about 4444444