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Mount & Blade Warband: Napoleonic Wars => General Discussion => Topic started by: God_ on September 06, 2015, 10:42:10 pm
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As a man who always heard that hussars were Op, I always thought that opinion was just simply not true. after all Hussars seemed to sacrifice hit points for speed, and there are many games where people bitch about how OP a class/weapon is. But after playing an LB as a hussar I would have to agree with the others. A hussar can simply do to much damage in my opinion taking out infantry almost all of the time in one hit and having speed that makes it easy to outrun enemies and much harder to get shot. Lancers and heavy cav had no chance against hussars, and cannot retreat because of the hussars speed. It also seems like hussars don't have any counters, even a well organized infantry regiment has nothing on a hussar reg that has any experience whatsoever.
A good nerf to the hussars would to make the horses have less hit points, or the hussars sabers more weak. obviously these are extremely basic but would change the competitive scene immensely.
Have any ideas than this very linear one? Comment on how you would change the hussars and if you think that they are OP or perfectly fine the way they are.
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may god help you when the cav lads notice this
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Best counter = Russian Partazini. GG ez.
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no
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Hussars are not OP in any way shape or form from what I see. All you need to be is decently good at melee to be able to kill them.
Their horses die in 1 stab/shoot the majority of the time.
You can easily kill them when you dismount them.
Some random noob cannot go on a 10 man killspree with it.
Being able to decimate lines (like what PLG has been able to do) takes skilled cavalry players.
The main reason think its "op" is because they get anally raped every time they go against cav because they don't practice anti-cav.
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Best counter = Russian Partazini. GG ez.
you have FSE ? defuck
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Best counter = Russian Partazini. GG ez.
Wot ...
Dear god no ... You can't ruin this for me.
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Hussars are not OP in any way shape or form from what I see. All you need to be is decently good at melee to be able to kill them.
Their horses die in 1 stab/shoot the majority of the time.
You can easily kill them when you dismount them.
Some random noob cannot go on a 10 man killspree with it.
Being able to decimate lines (like what PLG has been able to do) takes skilled cavalry players.
The main reason think its "op" is because they get anally raped every time they go against cav because they don't practice anti-cav.
i agree hussar horses are made out of cardboard
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Hussars are not OP in any way shape or form from what I see. All you need to be is decently good at melee to be able to kill them.
Their horses die in 1 stab/shoot the majority of the time.
You can easily kill them when you dismount them.
Some random noob cannot go on a 10 man killspree with it.
Being able to decimate lines (like what PLG has been able to do) takes skilled cavalry players.
The main reason think its "op" is because they get anally raped every time they go against cav because they don't practice anti-cav.
This. Can't tell you how many times my horse has been shot from under me by a guy halfway across the map. The horses die in single hits. Their main advantage is speed. If a hussar unit catches an isolated line unit during an event, they'll probably rape them as they have a good advantage and speed and regiments don't practice anti cav/sword.
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As a man who always heard that hussars were Op, I always thought that opinion was just simply not true. after all Hussars seemed to sacrifice hit points for speed, and there are many games where people bitch about how OP a class/weapon is. But after playing an LB as a hussar I would have to agree with the others. A hussar can simply do to much damage in my opinion taking out infantry almost all of the time in one hit and having speed that makes it easy to outrun enemies and much harder to get shot. Lancers and heavy cav had no chance against hussars, and cannot retreat because of the hussars speed. It also seems like hussars don't have any counters, even a well organized infantry regiment has nothing on a hussar reg that has any experience whatsoever.
A good nerf to the hussars would to make the horses have less hit points, or the hussars sabers more weak. obviously these are extremely basic but would change the competitive scene immensely.
Have any ideas than this very linear one? Comment on how you would change the hussars and if you think that they are OP or perfectly fine the way they are.
You would have loved pre-British hussar/naval units NW. Ya know before they nerfed the length of the cav sabres.
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Guys, leave this to the EU cavalry community. You have no idea.
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Guys, leave this to the EU cavalry community. You have no idea.
Gotta love how bad Cav and EU are at the same time, seems perfect.
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Ive beaten emo in a duel btw. On an NA server
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nerf all cav, not only hussars, by removing it
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nerf all cav, not only hussars, by removing it
let's remove the word Mount from the game's title while we're at it ::)
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may god help you when the cav lads notice this
Im very scared O_O
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Ive beaten emo in a duel btw. On an NA server
emo sucks lel
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nerf all cav, not only hussars, by removing it
let's remove the word Mount from the game's title while we're at it ::)
Good idea! The game would be perfect
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nerf all cav, not only hussars, by removing it
let's remove the word Mount from the game's title while we're at it ::)
Good idea! The game would be perfect
scared of cav? remember, stick them with the pointy end and they ded, really ez.
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nerf all cav, not only hussars, by removing it
let's remove the word Mount from the game's title while we're at it ::)
Good idea! The game would be perfect
scared of cav? remember, stick them with the pointy end and they ded, really ez.
yea ik but its still work and a nuisance
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nerf all cav, not only hussars, by removing it
let's remove the word Mount from the game's title while we're at it ::)
Good idea! The game would be perfect
scared of cav? remember, stick them with the pointy end and they ded, really ez.
yea ik but its still work and a nuisance
Fighting a good infantry player is work and a nuisance. Let's take out bayonets from the game. Napoleonic Bar Fight Simulator.
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You have no idea how much cavalry players put practice in taking down grounded units, if the infantry regiments put in half the practice they would never complain about cavalry in the first place. Instead we get "oh cav is just op any retard can do it" thats just you being shit, not us being op.
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You have no idea how much cavalry players put practice in taking down grounded units, if the infantry regiments put in half the practice they would never complain about cavalry in the first place. Instead we get "oh cav is just op any retard can do it" thats just you being shit, not us being op.
I can sign that.
It's a very common bia for infs to think that cav is just a fun class to play.
We are extremly competitve.
Don't mistake us for the inf community in which 1/2 can't even block and max 1/4 is good in competitve play. ;)
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Hussars are op for a skilled hussar player to use.
But then again so are all the classes. You get a guy who knows how to use his weapons and move, and he will crush you.
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Speed and damage don't make a hussar class OP. Acceleration and big maneuverability do it.
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To be fair Cavalry were always the heavy hitters in battles. Husars may seem OP because in real life cavalry was OP. That said infantry will kill a husar 1 on 1 because the bayonet has a much longer reach. The main reason they seem OP is because cavalry regiments often train at working well together and hitting people from the backs where you won't see them coming.
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Oh yeah, let's remove a huge aspect from the game.
Get good.
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nerf all cav, not only hussars, by removing it
let's remove the word Mount from the game's title while we're at it ::)
Remove Cavalry in Multiplayer and let them be in singleplayer. Would be nice.
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Does no one seriously know how to stab a horse? I feel like I'm fairly decent at counter cavalry, and it's really not that hard. Don't let them bump you, and if they get close, stab their horse. If they are doing that thing where they try and wait for a chance to attack holding a swing and trotting just out of reach, then hold a stab and wait. Most of the experienced cav will know not to run straight at you, that's how I know if you are good or not. If they know you see them, the good players will try and get behind you to bump slash or straight kill. That's why spin stabs on cav work well too, they don't know that you are watching them and think it's an easy kill and then when it's too late to react, you spin and kill their horse.
You want to have the horse charging straight at you when you stab it, so that the bayonet hits in the head or chest of the horse. This insta kills even heavy cav, so.
Maybe I should make a video or something since it seems to be such a difficult concept
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You have no idea how much cavalry players put practice in taking down grounded units, if the infantry regiments put in half the practice they would never complain about cavalry in the first place. Instead we get "oh cav is just op any retard can do it" thats just you being shit, not us being op.
+1
Good cav players need really good timing, especially when trying to kill someone who is trying to stab you wildly with his bayonet. More often than not, horses do actually get one shotted and then it's ezpz after that for someone with the bayonet.
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Tbh if I have a bayonet against a horse I feel like I have the advantage
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anti-cav is too much work amirite?
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anti-cav is too much work amirite?
Es too hard, I cent
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Why have to go through the trouble of killing cav when it's just easier not to have it at all -duh-
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Why have to go through the trouble of killing cav when it's just easier not to have it at all -duh-
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Why have to go through the trouble of killing cav when it's just easier not to have it at all -duh-
Oh, no, the peasantry has learned how to write...
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Why have to go through the trouble of killing cav when it's just easier not to have it at all -duh-
Oh, no, the peasantry has learned how to write...
My spelling is too pro for you :D
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Why have to go through the trouble of killing cav when it's just easier not to have it at all -duh-
Oh, no, the peasantry has learned how to write...
My spelling is too pro for you :D
I think your melee-game too -_o_-
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Why have to go through the trouble of killing cav when it's just easier not to have it at all -duh-
Oh, no, the peasantry has learned how to write...
My spelling is too pro for you :D
I think your melee-game too -_o_-
lolwut
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Spoiler
Why have to go through the trouble of killing cav when it's just easier not to have it at all -duh-
Oh, no, the peasantry has learned how to write...
My spelling is too pro for you :D
I think your melee-game too -_o_-
lolwut
Embrace the compliment. ;)
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Spoiler
Why have to go through the trouble of killing cav when it's just easier not to have it at all -duh-
Oh, no, the peasantry has learned how to write...
My spelling is too pro for you :D
I think your melee-game too -_o_-
lolwut
Embrace the compliment. ;)
ty ty ty
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I don't always post, but when I do it's to call out retarded ideas like this one.
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You have no idea how much cavalry players put practice in taking down grounded units, if the infantry regiments put in half the practice they would never complain about cavalry in the first place. Instead we get "oh cav is just op any retard can do it" thats just you being shit, not us being op.
I think this is going to be my new signature on here. It's not common to hear the truth be typed out on these forums.
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This will not happen - and it shouldn't. Hussars aren't OP at all. Line regiments just need to practice how to efficiently combat the hussars.
Some regiments that I know of even practice different tactics to combat cavalry attacks.
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Tbh if I have a bayonet against a horse I feel like I have the advantage
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the chances of NW being updated, I would say is way below 10%. If you want to nerf hussars for your event or server you can edit the troop text files really easy with a tool.
http://forums.taleworlds.com/?topic=105928.0
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I think the answer's been solved. It looks like we're spamming, so I'm going to lock this...thread owner - if you want it back open PM me.
Thanks. Locked.