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Iron Europe / Re: This mod isn't playable from the third person perspective.

« on: February 24, 2014, 03:31:25 pm »

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Iron Europe / Re: This mod isn't playable from the third person perspective.

« on: February 24, 2014, 09:41:58 am »

I noticed sometimes and depend the distance of the units, first person shooting will make you miss all the ennemies ( especially when they are very close) or whzn you are shooting from a windows or from a parapet and whatever if you are aiming good at them with the cross hair . I just switch view to the 3rd and all turn right then. Am i the only one to have this problem?

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Iron Europe / Re: Anymore Factions?

« on: February 24, 2014, 09:37:32 am »

@Nardu
I never said that the US made the greatest contribution. I'm simply stating that it is silly to say that the US did not play and important role in the war. Regardless of how well the they actually fought, the sheer anount of men and industrial power that the US brought to the war was a major factor in ending the war. If you look at statistics, it's really impossible to argue this. Unless if you create another strawman and argue against a point I never made.

I never said you said, in fact i was agreeing with you
 but i'm not native english speaker so my sentences can look rudes on the way i turn em. Sorry.

Yes you true, that is why i said they were decisives and not the greatest helpers too

But the men they gave us were more usefull by replacing experienced and veteran units we could use in decisive actions, and to rebalance the size of armies in our way. This explanation was an agreement to your sentence about amuricans thinking they won the war alone ( as for ww2 when we know USSR fought 80% of axis troops) because they saw history by the biased view of modern era.

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Iron Europe / Re: Anymore Factions?

« on: February 23, 2014, 12:25:49 pm »

Death count is not sign of victory, sign of victory is won battles and defeated enemies. And Romania dont do something significant, they joined war in 1916 and were destroyed for a less then 4 month.

that is wrong. How many times do we have to tell that, every country was important. Even if Romania was destroyed, why you believe that french and british sent many troops to help them, and Serbia?

because they caused (specialy for serbians) so many losses to Austria and Bulgaria that forced Germany to send troops. Every german Soldier on Eastern front was one which was not in France.

So they were important, on a different scale.


that is why the comment you did about Britain, without UK France would be crushed. That is so true and so stupid in the same time. Without Austria, Germany would also has been fuckd hard. Without a French victory, Britain would has been isolated on Europe against a strongest germany

Why does Nobody say they want Romania in this mod they were a quite Important nation in ww1

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Well Technically every country was important in WW1 (expect for the Usa because they act like they were the whole reason ww1 was a Entente Victory)

Yes, many Americans are so ignorant that they believe the US won the war single handedly but that doesn't negate the fact that the US was incredibly important to the Entente's victory.

Americans only count because they sent many many men. They were effectives on 1918's begining, not before. Germany was already weak.

plus, USA were a poor military power, without modern war experience (Civil war was an old war type did with modern weapons), with a  small professional army, not well equiped. French and British gave a ton of military material to USA, and they had to train them also.

But for every american battalion we have, we can switch it on the frontline with veteran and experienced units, and we can use those units everywhere else on the front, for an attack or something else. Because the americans were more a big human tank for us than a big power. And what was one of the big the problem of Germany? No more men to replace the casualities.

So they played a role, but honestly we can't say they helped more in the victory than other nations that helped us to divide triplice troops. they were "decisives" and that's why they are appart.

But Americans were not considered as good soldiers, as germans were not considered good soldiers during the 1800's (things changed after 1870). It's all modern era vision: Muricans best etc..

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Iron Europe / Re: Anymore Factions?

« on: February 21, 2014, 10:17:28 am »

Yeah just make he Commonwealth faction with the Brit, Scot, Aussie, etc. And why not add Belgium and US inside the France faction. On the other hand why to speak about Japan which to play a role of the most minor in the war.

The Japanese were the force that pacified the Pacific Navies of the Germans and Austrians. Don't know if they had any part in land warfare.

Yes they had little land warfare.

Yeah just make he Commonwealth faction with the Brit, Scot, Aussie, etc. And why not add Belgium and US inside the France faction.

Uk is the next, i think they will include some commonwealth units like Canadians, Aussies...


Why not for USA, but as a volunteers brigade i think it's the best. But the most important things to add in French nation are Colonial troops first. They can grove up the number of units easily with that: Senegal footmen, Algerian/Tunisian footmen, Zouaves, Spahis for light units etc..

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Iron Europe / Re: Which faction is better? [Poll]

« on: February 20, 2014, 04:35:33 pm »

I don't understand, in the mod or during ww1? Why you put Serbia in?

I didnt add Serbia 

Lol, so another guy add another nation inside your thread and your poll? 

To answer: The strongest nation depend which one receive the trolls during the conquest or battle match.

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Iron Europe / Re: Iron Europe-World War I EARLY SKINS and more! *POLL ADDED*

« on: February 20, 2014, 09:39:11 am »

Well it´s only a for fun thing i guess, not about importance.

 That explains why  Italy and  Bulgaria are not in the poll

For me it is about PROUD!!! FIND ME A FUCKING ROPE!!

Check it now, Belgian is 3, with Japanese and Ottomans behind. Happy?

Ps: will be a good idea to show all the uniforms to tale a decision no?

Ottomans




Russians, Belgians, Italians and Romanians:




Austrians are page 4 or 5.

Japanese

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Iron Europe / Re: Which faction is better? [Poll]

« on: February 20, 2014, 09:37:23 am »

I don't understand, in the mod or during ww1? Why you put Serbia in?

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Iron Europe / Re: Anymore Factions?

« on: February 20, 2014, 09:35:38 am »

Why does Nobody say they want Romania in this mod they were a quite Important nation in ww1

I did. In a big "others entente" nation with Serbia USA etc.

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Iron Europe / Re: Anymore Factions?

« on: February 19, 2014, 11:16:37 pm »

^ Agreed, I was a part of it I'll admit and for that I apologize but I'm done now.

Back on topic though. Here's an example of the effect the Belgians had on the German offensive. The Schlieffen Plan outlined that Liege was supposed to be taken in no more than 2 days. It took 12. The Belgians cost the Germans dearly for every mile to buy the Allies - particularly the UK - time and in that goal they succeeded. The line was set up at the Yser and there the Germans were held until the Allies pushed back and into Germany. I'm not saying that Belgium is the savior of WW1, in that aspect you are misquoting me. There were many aspects to the Allied victory and many contributors. My point is that Belgium is one of those contributors and that it would be pretty damned interesting for a game to do something different for once instead of going with the same old factions as every other game or movie has done again and again. I don't know why you're so hostile about my opinion that Belgium should be a faction but for what it's worth I understand why you want factions like Serbia or Russia - I just have a differing opinion.

We never denied that belgians played a role, and I  agree about  that Belgium was one of the contributors.

I'm not hostile to the fact of that Belgium could be in the game, you misunderstood my sentences too, just i was hostile to the opinion of they deserved more "than russians or Austrians a place in this mod. And i gave the precision " if you go on this way", meaning if you want to compare the size of every countries attributes during ww1. But i never said "Belgium doesn't have to be in this mod. I will enjoy every nation that will be added, to me they deserve all to be in. But not because one deserve more.

If they had minors nations, they will have less people. Anglo zulu wars is interesting, but how many players they had compared to BI? And how many  since they put Uk and a bunch of murican troops?

 devs must make their mod alive, and it is not easy to find informations and pictures in big quantities to make a minor country's full  army. That is why it's alway the same nations.
 

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Iron Europe / Re: Anymore Factions?

« on: February 19, 2014, 09:12:26 pm »

Well as far as I know the Canadians saved the Belgian coastline

Canada was in British Commonwealth, and i said British and french.

Yes and were went the 2 millions german soldiers? Facing your troops? No.
So yes we saved your coasts, directly and indirectly.

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Iron Europe / Re: Anymore Factions?

« on: February 19, 2014, 09:03:34 pm »

Lel here we go, AGAIN. Seriously belgians stop your "we are the best of the world but nobody Knows it". I don't know what kind of complex made you claims Charlemagne and Clovis and Napoléon and Chuck Norris and everything everything everything on the earth and univers come from Belgium, but this is not fair.

Two things,

1. I don't remember any Belgians ever bragging and saying how awesome they are, I'm just saying that they were very important to the war and worthy of a faction in the mod.
2. Charlemagne was born in Liege (that's in Belgium) and Clovis was born in Belgica - aka modern Belgium.

Explain what is very important please?

Two things: many factions were importants, and deserve to be in too: Italy, Serbia, RusSia, Austria, Bulgaria, Ottomans.

That is exactly what i'm saying about your fantasmed history:
Charlemagne is not Belgian. He is born in a place NOW in Belgium, but hes Frankish ( germanic speaker) and not Kelt. Garibaldi is born in a place now in France but he is not french.

Clovis is also Frank, following Frankish Law, probably influenced by a gallo latin culture bu this native language is germanic.

I was pointing the annoying thing of that you alway show things in the good way for you, even if it not the truth. Why don't you say French and British saved the lil pièce of free Belgium territory and protecting your coasts with our war marine?  But always  that in another reality Germany would have rushed to Paris and thanks god, Jésus and Albert the first  you saved the whole western europe?


Seriously i don't deny the fighting of Belgians, but your exageration is far from reality and what happened.

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Iron Europe / Re: Anymore Factions?

« on: February 19, 2014, 08:13:54 pm »

No, I would recommend removing a faction to reduce the lag. I would suggest removing France.

Whole the world expect France approves this message + 7 billion

And Chuck Norris 

By recommenting you just proved that you think the same about france as we do about Belgium

No i proved you suffer little States syndrom by telling the truth.

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Iron Europe / Re: Anymore Factions?

« on: February 19, 2014, 07:24:37 pm »

You're forgetting that without the delaying action fought by Belgium, France would have been rocked.the Belgians prevented hundreds of thousands of Germans from taking France in a matter of weeks. In turn they also gave the UK time to mobilize their troops. My opinion that they should be added is based on the fact that they prevented the war from ending in an early German victory and they fought through the entire war. Belgians even lent troops to Russia at the Tsar's request.

Thats True They Gave Armoured Cars to the Russians

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Lel here we go, AGAIN. Seriously belgians stop your "we are the best of the world but nobody Knows it". I don't know what kind of complex made you claims Charlemagne and Clovis and Napoléon and Chuck Norris and everything everything everything on the earth and univers come from Belgium, but this is not fair.

Your army never "saved" France as we know that the 2 of august with invasion of Luxembourg French HQ already gave order to reinforce the left wing and we enter in your country the 4, day of the german invasion.
 The invasion of Belgium by Germany was in the previsions of the XII plan, and french  were already redeploying BEFORE the invasion of Belgium!
The only reason of the non concentration of french armies at your border was we were attacking in eastern France.

If germans do not took Paris it was because:
- they have to deal with occupation of northern France, have to wait and deploy 4 divisions coming from East Front, they also took the bad decision to GO to the East of Paris and not the West, searching for a confrontation with Entente armies etc... The way to the Battle of the Marne was a bigluck, only because germans took their onlywrong decision at this moment.

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Iron Europe / Re: Iron Europe-World War I EARLY SKINS and more! *POLL ADDED*

« on: February 19, 2014, 06:59:12 pm »

Well it´s only a for fun thing i guess, not about importance.

 That explains why  Italy and  Bulgaria are not in the poll