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Off Topic / Re: Gaming PC Builds

« on: December 06, 2020, 12:47:19 pm »

What's the AMD equivalent of nvidias ray tracing or do they both support it and nvidia is just trying to sound special with their RTX labelling?

AMD is working on a more general version of ray tracing branded DXR, which essentially should work on all direct x titles, making it far more widely applicable than nvidia's game specific implementations.
That said the performance isn't there yet, it's more or less on par with 1st gen RTX.

Honestly I don't think the performance hit is worth it for ray tracing at present, there's honestly not that much difference for what is a substantial fps hit. No idea where you're getting the 5-10% numbers from John Price:
https://www.techspot.com/article/2109-nvidia-rtx-3080-ray-tracing-dlss/


DLSS on its own is almost enough to make getting an NVIDIA card worth it (although personally I need a better monitor first). I'll be interested to see AMDs version of it, although similar to ray tracing they've got a lot of catching up to do.

I think the next gen of cards will make ray tracing a no brainer on both AMD and NVIDIA, but it's certainly something I'm happy to do without for the foreseeable future.

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Off Topic / Re: Gaming PC Builds

« on: December 05, 2020, 11:42:20 am »

Right now AMD cpu and NVIDIA gpu combo is your best bet if you are going for max performance.
Besides that it's really hard to go wrong with either of them.

I agree that both have good value products, but AMD is miles ahead in price to performance at the top end.
You can get a water cooled 6800XT for $900 which equals a 3090 ($1500) at 1440p and is single digit frames behind at 4k, runs very cool and quiet.
The 3090 is a fucking joke. 3060Ti and 3080 are pretty alright though I will admit.

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Off Topic / Re: Gaming PC Builds

« on: November 30, 2020, 06:58:18 pm »

Is the 5600x better than the cheaper 8 core alternatives for Intel tho? I haven't really looked into it but my mind says probs no

5600x has bscly the same performance as a i9 10900k in game

Yeah actually this.
It literally beats the 10900k in some games, and matches it in most others.
And bear in mind that's using Nvidia GPUs on the benchmarks from when it came out; using AMD GPUs to benefit from SAM will give even better performance.
AMD is actually a no-brainer at this point.

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Off Topic / Re: Gaming PC Builds

« on: November 29, 2020, 04:57:30 pm »

10900k is a massive waste of money. If you're set on Intel get a 10600k and overclock it to get the same performance.
Otherwise like everyone else said get AMD, the 5600x is already a beast, let alone the 5900x and 5950x.

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Off Topic / Re: The General Political Thread

« on: November 10, 2020, 03:56:43 pm »

I mean it's pretty well established that poor people spend money, rich people save it.
Money that working class people get goes back into the local economy, creating jobs and stimulating growth, while with each transaction the government skims off tax. Even once they're comfortably paying for all their necessities, they still splash out on "luxuries" when they can afford them.
Contrast that with rich people who store it in off-shore shell companies in countries you can't touch, or just pay someone to estimate the value of a piece of modern art as however many million they owe in tax and donate it to claim back against tax.

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Off Topic / Re: Gaming PC Builds

« on: September 17, 2020, 01:05:35 am »

Tbh looking at the benchmarks for the 3080 it's actually kinda underwhelming. They marketed it as 100% faster than the 2080 but on average it's like 70%. Even cherry picked I struggle to find any that reach double. The VRAM limitations also seem to have hurt them considering BF was using all 10GB with RTX disabled.
I reckon RDNA2 is going to be pretty competitive, I do wonder how much it'll hurt them to be launching so much later than the 3000 series. I feel like a lot of people bought into the Nvidia hype around their launch event

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Off Topic / Re: Gaming PC Builds

« on: September 16, 2020, 02:33:39 pm »

What a difference a competitive AMD has made to the market for both CPUs and GPUs. It's actually pretty crazy that AIBs are actually having to accept lower margins or be less competitive than a founders edition card.
I'm curious to see what Big Navi will bring, but not looking for a new GPU for a while yet.

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Off Topic / Re: Gaming PC Builds

« on: June 21, 2020, 03:35:20 pm »

You don't need PCIe gen 4 support tbh, while you can technically make use of the faster speed you a) won't notice the difference, and b) a lot of the time you'll be more CPU bound loading games etc than storage bottlenecked assuming you're going to use NVMe either way.
B550 are the better value for money, there are some that have better VRMs (for overclocking) than the entry X570 boards and most of the other features aren't really that important. They should come down a bit in price before too long. That being said pretty sure 5th gen ryzen won't be on AM4 so you'll need a new motherboard for it.

If you want a new PC now with the goal of upgrading to Ryzen 4xxx later once prices come down or 2nd hand are available, I'd go for a 3300X as they're excellent value for money and in most game don't really bottleneck your GPU even up to a 2080 unless you're at like 1080p on medium settings. Games are so much more GPU than CPU intensive nowadays.

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Off Topic / Re: Gaming PC Builds

« on: April 14, 2020, 02:12:46 pm »

I mean his budget was 4000 euros for his PC so he can definitely afford to get a mechanical keyboard.
I also have one and highly recommend it

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Off Topic / Re: Gaming PC Builds

« on: April 06, 2020, 03:25:19 am »

Cases are very subjective in terms of how you priorities aesthetics vs temperature and noise, but I would say that this will run very hot; this case has pretty poor airflow, plus having a very hot CPU on an air cooler. Remember that air coolers use the air already inside the case to cool the CPU, so as the air gets heated up inside the case from the CPU and GPU the cooling becomes less efficient. Low air turnover inside the case means it heats up more.
For that reason if you do go with a 9900KS I'd strongly recommend a 360mm radiator, the TDP on that thing is insane. Honestly I'd stick with a 9900KF if you're set on Intel. If you're willing to spend that much money on a CPU you need to be willing to spend a lot on cooling if needed.

I'm not sure that the Z390 boards can use Gen 4 PCIe, I was under the impression that it was a new feature on only x570 (AMD) boards at the moment, but I could be wrong. Either way I wouldn't go for Gen 4 SSDs as they run much hotter, are less stable at high temperatures and you genuinely will not notice the difference in speed; storage drives almost never actually reach full speed for any significant length of time. Crystalmark benchmark max speeds do not translate well into real world performance.
I'm glad to see you dropped the Samsung QVO from your initial list, they have significantly shorter lifespans than the EVOs (QLC in general is worse than TLC) which is one of the trade-offs to make them cheaper.

One other thing I would say is remember to save some budget for a monitor. Your PC might be generating 50000 FPS but if your monitor is a 1080p 60hz old wreck you'll miss out on 99% of the benefits of the new PC.
Happy to give a few basic points on that front or direct you towards some youtubers with a lot more knowledge than myself.


Whatever parts you end up using, good luck and enjoy it!

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Off Topic / Re: Gaming PC Builds

« on: December 29, 2019, 12:59:42 pm »

Harford yes you'll want to change your motherboard, CPU and unfortunately that means getting new RAM as well. Your GPU is fine and you can upgrade that easily at any time in the future as they swap in and out easily.

It depends a lot on your budget and what you use it for, but for gaming a B450 motherboard with a Ryzen 5 2600X with 16Gb 3000MHz RAM is a solid starting point with plenty of options for easy upgrades in future. If you've got more money you could look into an X570 board with a 3600X or 3700X.

In terms of storage get an SSD and make sure you install your operating system on it if you don't already have it on an SSD. It's the biggest difference you'll notice day to day in terms of speed.

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Off Topic / Re: The Ultimate Sweatlord's Guide to PC Optimization

« on: December 05, 2019, 06:52:18 pm »

Jesus Christ why do you need to use so many posts, just learn to format like the rest of the forum


90 degrees is not dangerous, utter bollocks. You'll lose performance but all modern systems have built in temp limits anyway. Short of physical power mods or using a 3rd party bios its impossible to damage your PC by heat it produces itself.
The only real way to damage your hardware overclocking is overvolting your CPU, just google safe limits and you're fine, not that you even explained how to overclock it.

Also if you're doing an "overclocking" guide at least include turning on XMP profiles for RAM. Technically speaking it's overclocking, and if you build your own PC but haven't ventured into the BIOS (which seems likely given the level this is aimed at) you'll be missing out on significant performance, especially on Ryzen. Obviously don't go into (sub) timings but XMP is the easiest free performance you'll ever get.

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Off Topic / Re: [SERIOUS] Young suicide rates are worrisome, yet somewhat understandable.

« on: September 14, 2019, 08:24:06 pm »

your heart and lungs are the most important muscles in your body.

Oh no it's retarded

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Off Topic / Re: [SERIOUS] Young suicide rates are worrisome, yet somewhat understandable.

« on: September 10, 2019, 06:34:01 pm »

you really encompass that sore loser attitude i wrote about. i assume we're in the same age bracket/peer group, so by that, i am your competition. you should want to beat me, either by doing what i've done better or going your own path. from my perspective, with that sorry ass post, you're no competition at all just like 90% of my peers.

Cute, but in the nicest possible way, as a doctor I'm not exactly "competition" in the job market sense of the word. I'm sure you'll end up earning far more than me (you probably already do), so well done on that I suppose.
To me what I do is worth far more than my wage slip, but then it has to be or I'd be in a different line of work.
I can't say I'm fond of your high and mighty attitude and the way you judge people in this thread, when really people are just here to talk about a topic which is still far too stigmatised in society. There's a lot that's open to debate, but lower socio-economic status is most certainly a strong risk factor for depression and suicide, whichever country you're looking at. Congrats for having money, you're certainly less at risk than some of the rest of us.

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Off Topic / Re: [SERIOUS] Young suicide rates are worrisome, yet somewhat understandable.

« on: September 08, 2019, 11:24:24 pm »

Life is shit, deal with it

1: Don't be poor
2: Be an asshole (Also poor people deserve to be poor)
3: Life is shit, don't strive for it to be better because other people had/have it worse

My credentials are that I'm very privileged compared to most people my age, or even in general

Thanks for the words of wisdom. Now that you've enlightened them, I'm sure everyone will walk into a 50k job without going to college. Obviously these opportunities are always there and by you typing out that loving message everyone will see the world for the cheery place that it is, full of opportunity and money!

If you're going to be a prick, find a different thread for it.