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The Mess Hall / CluelessWill's Top North American Leaders
« on: June 04, 2018, 10:10:57 pm »
Hoping on the bandwagon to make my own list. If this offends you then I've done my job.
1. Karth (92)
2. Tico (91)
3. AsianP (90)
4. Cheesypants (89)
5. RussianFury/Waste (86)
6. Grimsight (83)
7. Millander +1 (80)
8. Wardop +1 (76)
9. Offizer/Zen -2 (72)
10. Stox (70)
11. Mack [New] (69)
12. Drew -1 (65)
Reasoning: The majority of my lists are from the 2012-2016 era of NW. I still played throughout 2017-2018 but these times saw a lot of the big named regiments and players leave or experience lots of their core members moving away from NW. It also saw the concentration of skill based players in relatively few regiments which allowed leaders like Lawbringer to have good melee despite poor leadership. I believe 2013-2016 was the best era and highlighted the diversity of skill among North American regiments and the amount of 'contender' regiments that arose such as the 18th and 14th/1a. My lists includes accomplishments from organized linebattle events but I also draw a fair bit out of 1v1's that were done before these. There is also a lot done in terms of the legacy and influence of these leaders. This is exemplified in leaders such as Millander and Karth who are still remembered today despite not being as competitive of a regiment as others.
Disclaimer: I still didn't play against a lot of regiments though so it's hard to formulate opinions on certain leaders such as Alexander, Ody, & KnightofStJohn, etc. These are based mostly on my tenure in the 63e, 71st, and LG.
This list is subject to change
1. Karth (92)
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I believe that Karth fundamentally did the most with the least. The 63e did have good melee characters but ultimately lacked the 'stars' that other regiments such as the 12th and 3eVolt had. This was made up for by the general skill of Karth's leading and excellent shooting ability and positioning of the 63e. There is a large amount of accusations that center on the alleged hillcamping of the 63e but as a member of the 'golden era' of the 63e, I can confidently say that most 'hill camping' was done to get another regiment to move off of their hill. I overall believe that Karth's accolades and leading abilities coupled with an overall less skilled regiment make him the best leader of NA
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There is little doubt that the 12th was and will be the greatest NW regiment of all time. Tico lead this great regiment to many titles and was an amazing leader. I have him ranked as number 2 simply because the high level of the 12th did mean that momentary lapses of leadership could be made up for by their excellent individual skill in melee.
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AsianP is both a phenomenal player and leader. He lead multiple regiments (but for the sake of this the 3eVolt) to many victories and was easily a top 3 regiment against the likes of the LG (even post 45e merge). He was a great leader who knew how to get in close and use the 3eVolt's excellent melee to his advantage. He also had a great chain of command with people such as Godfried and Risk under him to provide should he not be there.
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With multiple NWL wins and runner-ups under his belt, Cheesy demonstrated excellent leadership of the 71st and even saw the regiment end up on a high note as they destroyed the Weeb known as 'Lawbringer' during the Twitch Napoleonic Wars League Finals before disbanding.
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I have both of these great people together because they were a true split (imo). RussianFury would later take on most of the duties but at the height of the LG it was a truly split system. Russian and Waste were able to maneuver extremely well with their line and made excellent use of the reverse line tactic. Russian ultimately called the shots but Waste was a more then competent leader. I believe that even before the 45e merge into the LG that Russian and Waste were able to accomplish a lot in the scene in a very short amount of time in the wake of the 71st disbandment and exodus of many well known players
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Grimsight was an okay leader. I think he did a good job and he still accomplished a large amount over a large amount of time. I don't have him as a top 5 simply because I believe that the 12th and 63e meant he would never truly be able to become a top 1 regiment for an extended period of time but he still did a good job in the most competitive time of NANW. In short, he wasn't the leader that AsianP was. I also docked him as he included unofficial 1v1's on his record and this is a personal vendetta I have against him.
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I never personally played with Millander so I have very little recollection of his abilities, I simply knew him for the passwords that made me want to leave the game such as 'hardeeslightinfantrytactics.' Regardless the 1stFKI lives on in NANW lore and he was able to form an extremely good regiment with a great group of players.
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The 14th/1a was a very good regiment and is often times forgotten despite the fact that they won a season of NWL. Although it was only one season that is still a worthy accomplishment.
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With the wake of the post-Karth exodus, Offizer and Zen were still able to keep Karth's 63e strong utilizing many of the same strategies while having even less skilled players. I believe they are great leaders and deserve a spot for leading a regiment that was mostly for non-competitive events on a scale that no other NA regiment has ever seen. Similar to Grimsight, neither would surpass their previous leader
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The 54th was by no means a GOAT regiment but they were still a force to be reckoned with back in the days of 50 man lines. What Stox lacked in basic English sentence structure he made up for in leading. During my tenure in the 63e every LB we had with the 54th was a long and drawn out affair where the smallest lapse in leading could mean the difference between a win and loss. Stox was an average leader during a competitive stretch of NW.
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11. Mack [New] (69)
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Although not a leader in the sense of linebattles, he started a model of a regiment where no one person commanded it. This was revolutionary to NW where there were large systems of power divided among leaders, subordinates and rankers. In the 9y with the system of equality it attracted a unique group of people who went on to be a dominant force in NANW and forever reshape the scene, even challenging the likes of the 12th during their prime.
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Most people probably do not remember Drew but he lead the 18e in 2013. I joined this regiment and the fact that Drew nearly beat the 12th with their being an admin decision that decided the game was something I'll always remember. He's an example of a contender regiment which formed out of humble beginnings and was able to challenge a big name regiment relatively fast. I keep him on this list as he was a good friend of mine and a great person to know. He highlights that you don't need big shot's to be the best, similar to the 63e.
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Reasoning: The majority of my lists are from the 2012-2016 era of NW. I still played throughout 2017-2018 but these times saw a lot of the big named regiments and players leave or experience lots of their core members moving away from NW. It also saw the concentration of skill based players in relatively few regiments which allowed leaders like Lawbringer to have good melee despite poor leadership. I believe 2013-2016 was the best era and highlighted the diversity of skill among North American regiments and the amount of 'contender' regiments that arose such as the 18th and 14th/1a. My lists includes accomplishments from organized linebattle events but I also draw a fair bit out of 1v1's that were done before these. There is also a lot done in terms of the legacy and influence of these leaders. This is exemplified in leaders such as Millander and Karth who are still remembered today despite not being as competitive of a regiment as others.
Disclaimer: I still didn't play against a lot of regiments though so it's hard to formulate opinions on certain leaders such as Alexander, Ody, & KnightofStJohn, etc. These are based mostly on my tenure in the 63e, 71st, and LG.
This list is subject to change