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Title: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 07, 2022, 02:31:31 pm
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Welcome to the Third tournament of the ATS. This Tournament we will be running the classic 6v6 competitive format.
The tournament will be hosted on Sunday the 25th September at 20:00GMT. This tournament will be played in the 6v6 format. More TBA


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Sign Up Deadline: 24.09.2022 | 7pm BST

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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 07, 2022, 02:32:13 pm
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Ricky. on September 07, 2022, 03:25:42 pm
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Witold on September 07, 2022, 04:32:56 pm
why always 6v6 are you matrixed by Match Making ?
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Gi on September 07, 2022, 04:33:20 pm
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 07, 2022, 04:51:52 pm
why always 6v6 are you matrixed by Match Making ?
I am literally hosting a 8v8, 7v7 and a 5v5 lol
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Witold on September 07, 2022, 04:53:07 pm
why always 6v6 are you matrixed by Match Making ?
I am literally hosting a 8v8, 7v7 and a 5v5 lol

where the 5v5 ?
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 07, 2022, 05:03:21 pm
why always 6v6 are you matrixed by Match Making ?
I am literally hosting a 8v8, 7v7 and a 5v5 lol

where the 5v5 ?

Role tournament coming soon, it's also specified here:

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48434.0
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Alpha_Icarus on September 12, 2022, 09:55:26 pm
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Chainsor on September 12, 2022, 10:02:14 pm
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Vegi. on September 12, 2022, 10:04:54 pm
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on September 12, 2022, 10:06:40 pm
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 12, 2022, 11:54:11 pm
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DENIED see announcement thread for reason.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Shadey on September 15, 2022, 11:38:12 pm
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 15, 2022, 11:44:50 pm
@coco
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: CatAstrophe on September 15, 2022, 11:48:40 pm
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fralla8 on September 16, 2022, 12:37:49 am
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 17, 2022, 09:04:08 am
Bump
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: RUS_Flusha90 on September 17, 2022, 09:08:18 am
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upd  :)
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Witold on September 18, 2022, 10:33:06 am
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Mauri on September 18, 2022, 04:44:21 pm
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Gibby Jr on September 18, 2022, 05:55:19 pm
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Arch4ngel on September 18, 2022, 07:33:41 pm
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I thought it was the new draft team
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: tommyxd on September 19, 2022, 12:19:56 am
Is this gonna be point difference as well ?
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 19, 2022, 12:36:38 am
Probably yes, I’ll talk with organisers tho. But with drafts and randomised points is the best way to determine team skill
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Hertz on September 20, 2022, 12:27:24 pm
Is this gonna be point difference as well ?

Just win all your matches
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Steinmann on September 20, 2022, 12:53:58 pm
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Herishey on September 20, 2022, 01:14:54 pm
Probably yes, I’ll talk with organisers tho. But with drafts and randomised points is the best way to determine team skill
Debateable
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Hertz on September 20, 2022, 04:03:37 pm
Probably yes, I’ll talk with organisers tho. But with drafts and randomised points is the best way to determine team skill
Debateable
Nearly every tournament has been wins first, then other stuff, rather than points first.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: herp on September 20, 2022, 10:12:17 pm
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Coco. on September 21, 2022, 09:45:13 am
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: SpookyST on September 21, 2022, 05:47:35 pm
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 21, 2022, 05:57:51 pm
6v6 Tournament Format Announcement

It was agreed by the admin team that the tournament will be based on round wins or 'pts' (rather than the classic match wins). The bracket in the draft tournament was done incorrectly, so even if it was based on round wins, it would be 'pts' first, however, it was set to 'pts diff', which caused the bracket to be completely incorrect. Basing it on pts would make sense as the more rounds you're winning, the better the team is playing, given the scenario below:

If a team loses their matches as follow:

4 - 5, 4 - 5, 4 - 5, 5 - 4 = 17pts (1 match win)

whilst a team wins the following:

5 - 4, 5 - 4, 0 - 5, 0 - 5 = 10pts (2 match wins)

In a standard format, the second team would proceed to the knockouts, however, the first team would get knocked out even though they played better but only lost the last round on all their matches.

If you don't like it, tough, but it's clear this is the better way of determining skill.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 21, 2022, 06:03:05 pm
Yeah unfortunately I did set up the brackets wrong, didn’t realise till way later.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: cookie123 on September 21, 2022, 08:36:30 pm
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Arch4ngel on September 21, 2022, 08:38:05 pm
6v6 Tournament Format Announcement

It was agreed by the admin team that the tournament will be based on round wins or 'pts' (rather than the classic match wins). The bracket in the draft tournament was done incorrectly, so even if it was based on round wins, it would be 'pts' first, however, it was set to 'pts diff', which caused the bracket to be completely incorrect. Basing it on pts would make sense as the more rounds you're winning, the better the team is playing, given the scenario below:

If a team loses their matches as follow:

4 - 5, 4 - 5, 4 - 5, 5 - 4 = 17pts (1 match win)

whilst a team wins the following:

5 - 4, 5 - 4, 0 - 5, 0 - 5 = 10pts (2 match wins)

In a standard format, the second team would proceed to the knockouts, however, the first team would get knocked out even though they played better but only lost the last round on all their matches.

If you don't like it, tough, but it's clear this is the better way of determining skill.
wins > pts  ;D
1st team lost a fucking match against 2nd one
look at our scores bruh

losers that cant beat team with 2 matches 0-5 0-5 cant go throw GS
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Arch4ngel on September 21, 2022, 08:46:57 pm
Dont reinvent the wheel

Wins only matter not ur scores

If u dont like random matches - add the minimum points difference to win, instead of 5-4 u should win with 2 rounds advantage - 6-4 or 11-9 its the way to see more "mastery"
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fralla8 on September 21, 2022, 08:47:51 pm
dont reinvent the wheel
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on September 21, 2022, 09:14:10 pm
6v6 Tournament Format Announcement

It was agreed by the admin team that the tournament will be based on round wins or 'pts' (rather than the classic match wins). The bracket in the draft tournament was done incorrectly, so even if it was based on round wins, it would be 'pts' first, however, it was set to 'pts diff', which caused the bracket to be completely incorrect. Basing it on pts would make sense as the more rounds you're winning, the better the team is playing, given the scenario below:

If a team loses their matches as follow:

4 - 5, 4 - 5, 4 - 5, 5 - 4 = 17pts (1 match win)

whilst a team wins the following:

5 - 4, 5 - 4, 0 - 5, 0 - 5 = 10pts (2 match wins)

In a standard format, the second team would proceed to the knockouts, however, the first team would get knocked out even though they played better but only lost the last round on all their matches.

If you don't like it, tough, but it's clear this is the better way of determining skill.
Team A loses every match 5v4 (16pts)
Team B wins 2 and then loses 5-3 every other game (16 pts)

Who goes through?

Surely it has to be wins then points?
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Tomppa on September 21, 2022, 09:21:19 pm
dont reinvent the wheel
The modern wheel be a square smh
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Golden. on September 21, 2022, 09:37:50 pm
6v6 Tournament Format Announcement

It was agreed by the admin team that the tournament will be based on round wins or 'pts' (rather than the classic match wins). The bracket in the draft tournament was done incorrectly, so even if it was based on round wins, it would be 'pts' first, however, it was set to 'pts diff', which caused the bracket to be completely incorrect. Basing it on pts would make sense as the more rounds you're winning, the better the team is playing, given the scenario below:

If a team loses their matches as follow:

4 - 5, 4 - 5, 4 - 5, 5 - 4 = 17pts (1 match win)

whilst a team wins the following:

5 - 4, 5 - 4, 0 - 5, 0 - 5 = 10pts (2 match wins)

In a standard format, the second team would proceed to the knockouts, however, the first team would get knocked out even though they played better but only lost the last round on all their matches.

If you don't like it, tough, but it's clear this is the better way of determining skill.

"better way of determining skill"

Very debatable point depending on the playstyles of some teams you may throw more rounds to achieve an aggressive victory, or in the first group stage matches when some people are still warming up to the teams chemistry on the day.

I also do feel this takes away from the importance of a 4-4 scenario or being on "Match point". Or even a comeback becomes less important as you don't really need to win to go through.

Although you may argue each round is more important it's nice to have a "cushion" of some rounds and in my opinion it makes it more thrilling when you do reach that 4-4 and are fighting to go through.

Your tournament you do you, however I don't see why now you are trying to change a normal precedent in tournaments, feels like a trying to be different moment for the sake of it.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Desant on September 21, 2022, 09:49:22 pm
6v6 Tournament Format Announcement

It was agreed by the admin team that the tournament will be based on round wins or 'pts' (rather than the classic match wins). The bracket in the draft tournament was done incorrectly, so even if it was based on round wins, it would be 'pts' first, however, it was set to 'pts diff', which caused the bracket to be completely incorrect. Basing it on pts would make sense as the more rounds you're winning, the better the team is playing, given the scenario below:

If a team loses their matches as follow:

4 - 5, 4 - 5, 4 - 5, 5 - 4 = 17pts (1 match win)

whilst a team wins the following:

5 - 4, 5 - 4, 0 - 5, 0 - 5 = 10pts (2 match wins)

In a standard format, the second team would proceed to the knockouts, however, the first team would get knocked out even though they played better but only lost the last round on all their matches.

If you don't like it, tough, but it's clear this is the better way of determining skill.

"better way of determining skill"

Very debatable point depending on the playstyles of some teams you may throw more rounds to achieve an aggressive victory, or in the first group stage matches when some people are still warming up to the teams chemistry on the day.

I also do feel this takes away from the importance of a 4-4 scenario or being on "Match point". Or even a comeback becomes less important as you don't really need to win to go through.

Although you may argue each round is more important it's nice to have a "cushion" of some rounds and in my opinion it makes it more thrilling when you do reach that 4-4 and are fighting to go through.

Your tournament you do you, however I don't see why now you are trying to change a normal precedent in tournaments, feels like a trying to be different moment for the sake of it.

I forgot to write about poke, which can decide the whole round or is it already called the skill?
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Barro112 on September 21, 2022, 09:52:13 pm
Wins>points
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: tommyxd on September 21, 2022, 09:59:51 pm
Wins>points
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Witold on September 21, 2022, 10:11:36 pm
Wins>points


basic
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Tw1sT[eR] on September 21, 2022, 11:10:31 pm
Wins>points


basic
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 22, 2022, 12:07:47 am
"better way of determining skill"

Very debatable point depending on the playstyles of some teams you may throw more rounds to achieve an aggressive victory, or in the first group stage matches when some people are still warming up to the teams chemistry on the day.

I also do feel this takes away from the importance of a 4-4 scenario or being on "Match point". Or even a comeback becomes less important as you don't really need to win to go through.

Although you may argue each round is more important it's nice to have a "cushion" of some rounds and in my opinion it makes it more thrilling when you do reach that 4-4 and are fighting to go through.

Your tournament you do you, however I don't see why now you are trying to change a normal precedent in tournaments, feels like a trying to be different moment for the sake of it.

You could argue that Blitz is changing it for the sake of it, however, you're arguing for the sake of it.

Here's a delicious scenario which I'd be glad to hear a response.

Here is team 1:

4 - 5 4 - 5 4 - 5  5 - 0 (against team 2)

17/20 rounds won 85% round win rate

Here is team 2:

5 - 4 5 - 4 0 - 5 0 - 5

10/20 rounds won 50% round win rate

So, in the case above, Team 1 is CLEARLY more dominant, not only did they beat the second team 5 - 0, all the other matches were extremely close which suggests that they still have a shot against any team they face, unlike team two who was clearly only dominant against potential weaker teams. If you were being smart, the last round although intense, shouldn't determine a team's skill, in most tournaments if a final is 10 - 9, the fight was good, however, doesn't mean that one team was CLEARLY stronger than the other, however losing 5 - 0 does show the other team being more dominant.

In this case however, based on wins, team 2 would go through and if we're being logical, would lose harder than team 1. Groups exist to determine which teams are the strongest to go to the qualifiers and basing it on rounds won shows dominance across all teams rather than winning against two teams and being shit against the other two. If you're arguing about that last 4 - 4 round in groups matters more than being stomped, then you're deluded, especially if you're being stomped by the team that had closer matches and beat you. Cushion rounds shouldn't exist, it's a tournament qualifier for crying out loud, there shouldn't be time to play one handed.

A comeback would seem just as important in a round based format, because if you're 1 - 4 down, then you need all the rounds you can get, the same logic applies with wins, it's why once you've won two matches, you can just AFK the other two and play your shit players (which plenty of teams do), whilst in a round based format you have to get as many rounds as possible.

Seems like a no brainer to me, plenty of smooth brainers don't seem to like change, however big or small.

Very debatable point depending on the playstyles of some teams you may throw more rounds to achieve an aggressive victory, or in the first group stage matches when some people are still warming up to the teams chemistry on the day.

Nice, you just went against your own view, if every round counts then you'd throw less rounds. If you're still warming up at the start of the match, then getting 1 or 2 rounds is better than getting 1 loss right? With wins if you're 'warming up' and lose your first match, then you're 0 - 1 down, however, with rounds let's say you lost 3 - 5, you can still win as you can make up more rounds after you've warmed up.

People only believe wins are better because you're seeing a 'W', not because it's actually logical.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Alf on September 22, 2022, 12:30:01 am
I literally don’t understand why you don’t just do wins… nobody gives a shit what the score is it’s about winning, if you’re just caring about rounds why even play the knockouts just do a round robin and most rounds wins
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 22, 2022, 12:32:06 am
I literally don’t understand why you don’t just do wins… nobody gives a shit what the score is it’s about winning, if you’re just caring about rounds why even play the knockouts just do a round robin and most rounds wins

because winning rounds against better teams would be harder than winning rounds against bad teams, so doing round robin for groups makes sense as the stronger teams go through rather than a mediocre team going through because they win against two tragic teams and then got trashed by the better teams.

Round robin doesn't make sense for knockouts due to potentially having easier teams than the other, so it should be wins for that.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Alf on September 22, 2022, 12:34:08 am
I literally don’t understand why you don’t just do wins… nobody gives a shit what the score is it’s about winning, if you’re just caring about rounds why even play the knockouts just do a round robin and most rounds wins

because winning rounds against better teams would be harder than winning rounds against bad teams, so doing round robin for groups makes sense as the stronger teams go through rather than a mediocre team going through because they win against two tragic teams and then got trashed by the better teams.

If you don’t want bad teams to play just don’t let them sign up… if someone gets through the groups then they deserve to be where they are, nobody gives a fuck how you win as long as you do
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 22, 2022, 12:35:03 am
I literally don’t understand why you don’t just do wins… nobody gives a shit what the score is it’s about winning, if you’re just caring about rounds why even play the knockouts just do a round robin and most rounds wins

because winning rounds against better teams would be harder than winning rounds against bad teams, so doing round robin for groups makes sense as the stronger teams go through rather than a mediocre team going through because they win against two tragic teams and then got trashed by the better teams.

If you don’t want bad teams to play just don’t let them sign up… if someone gets through the groups then they deserve to be where they are, nobody gives a fuck how you win as long as you do

Wrong, with wins, worse teams can go through over better ones even though they performed worse (and lost against that team that didn't go through), hence why rounds make far more sense. Round robin groups is by any standard, the best way of determining which team goes through to knockouts (which would then be wins).
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Alf on September 22, 2022, 12:39:33 am
I literally don’t understand why you don’t just do wins… nobody gives a shit what the score is it’s about winning, if you’re just caring about rounds why even play the knockouts just do a round robin and most rounds wins

because winning rounds against better teams would be harder than winning rounds against bad teams, so doing round robin for groups makes sense as the stronger teams go through rather than a mediocre team going through because they win against two tragic teams and then got trashed by the better teams.

If you don’t want bad teams to play just don’t let them sign up… if someone gets through the groups then they deserve to be where they are, nobody gives a fuck how you win as long as you do

Wrong, with wins, worse teams can go through over better ones even though they performed worse (and lost against that team that didn't go through), hence why rounds make far more sense.

What? If you don’t win enough matches that’s on you, everyone knows what they have to do going into it, having to sit there and nerd out over how many rounds everyone has is going to A) take longer and B) piss off people

It’s a one day tournament, you don’t have the sample size to dictate which team is better by rounds won because you’d need all the teams to play multiple times in order to judge a mean. Whereas if you go by wins it’s as simple as beating the rest of your group to go through
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 22, 2022, 12:40:51 am
I literally don’t understand why you don’t just do wins… nobody gives a shit what the score is it’s about winning, if you’re just caring about rounds why even play the knockouts just do a round robin and most rounds wins

because winning rounds against better teams would be harder than winning rounds against bad teams, so doing round robin for groups makes sense as the stronger teams go through rather than a mediocre team going through because they win against two tragic teams and then got trashed by the better teams.

If you don’t want bad teams to play just don’t let them sign up… if someone gets through the groups then they deserve to be where they are, nobody gives a fuck how you win as long as you do

Wrong, with wins, worse teams can go through over better ones even though they performed worse (and lost against that team that didn't go through), hence why rounds make far more sense.

What? If you don’t win enough matches that’s on you, everyone knows what they have to do going into it, having to sit there and nerd out over how many rounds everyone has is going to A) take longer and B) piss off people

It’s a one day tournament, you don’t have the sample size to dictate which team is better by rounds won because you’d need all the teams to play multiple times in order to judge a mean. Whereas if you go by wins it’s as simple as beating the rest of your group to go through

You shouldn't need to nerd out how many rounds you've won, just play your best every round as you should and report the scores.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Alf on September 22, 2022, 12:43:48 am
It’s whatever but this is just complication for the sake of it, everyone knows how the proper format works and if you don’t go through that’s on you, but there’s a reason wins and losses are used in actual sports and not “average score difference” or whatever, because scores are variable and dependent on multiple external factors, a win is a single number that is the total sum of the entire match
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 22, 2022, 12:46:29 am
It's not complicated and doesn't involve any brain power, sports work differently because they're different games. ESports have also used RR. It's also not average score difference, it's rounds won.

If people think it's too complicated enough to not understand that this is a more accurate way to determine a team's skill which results in better knockout matches, then fuck me go back to school.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Hertz on September 22, 2022, 12:46:41 am
It’s whatever but this is just complication for the sake of it, everyone knows how the proper format works and if you don’t go through that’s on you, but there’s a reason wins and losses are used in actual sports and not “average score difference” or whatever, because scores are variable and dependent on multiple external factors, a win is a single number that is the total sum of the entire match

Pipe down child
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Alf on September 22, 2022, 12:48:14 am
It’s whatever but this is just complication for the sake of it, everyone knows how the proper format works and if you don’t go through that’s on you, but there’s a reason wins and losses are used in actual sports and not “average score difference” or whatever, because scores are variable and dependent on multiple external factors, a win is a single number that is the total sum of the entire match

Pipe down child

You have the brain power of a rock, and dumb one at that
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 22, 2022, 12:50:05 am
Funny thing is, I was also against rounds won originally (which you can tell in the draft thread), then I actually spent time thinking about it and determined that wins in group stage is heavily flawed. Knockouts it's fine.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Scottish Unicorn on September 22, 2022, 12:52:19 am
Nobody cares in champions league if you score 45 goals but lose all your matches.

Gotta win matches to generate points. Changing the goalposts never looks good but this is especially stupid.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fralla8 on September 22, 2022, 12:53:10 am
Excuse you, I need my dopmine rush from winning matches rather than playing for rounds and losing every single match
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Alf on September 22, 2022, 12:53:50 am
Funny thing is, I was also against rounds won originally (which you can tell in the draft thread), then I actually spent time thinking about it and determined that wins in group stage is heavily flawed. Knockouts it's fine.

I literally don’t see at all how it’s a better system, it rewards teams for being in weaker groups, rewards them for being lucky with pokes, chambers etc. and then it makes it so you can pull off a big upset but because that team has won more rounds in other unrelated matches they get to go through?

Man I’m so glad I’m not playing in this
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 22, 2022, 01:14:46 am
Funny thing is, I was also against rounds won originally (which you can tell in the draft thread), then I actually spent time thinking about it and determined that wins in group stage is heavily flawed. Knockouts it's fine.

I literally don’t see at all how it’s a better system, it rewards teams for being in weaker groups, rewards them for being lucky with pokes, chambers etc. and then it makes it so you can pull off a big upset but because that team has won more rounds in other unrelated matches they get to go through?

Man I’m so glad I’m not playing in this

Rewards teams for being weaker in groups? No, it does the opposite. Rewards them for being lucky with pokes, chambers etc. what?

Now you're just blabbering

Excuse you, I need my dopmine rush from winning matches rather than playing for rounds and losing every single match

Massive rush winning a group stage match, it's fine because I'll play 4 matches, win one 5 - 4 and lose the others 0 - 5 but still go through over someone who lost their matches 4 - 5.

It's funny the backlash of a better system though, just because people like seeing the 'W'.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Alf on September 22, 2022, 01:17:47 am
Funny thing is, I was also against rounds won originally (which you can tell in the draft thread), then I actually spent time thinking about it and determined that wins in group stage is heavily flawed. Knockouts it's fine.

I literally don’t see at all how it’s a better system, it rewards teams for being in weaker groups, rewards them for being lucky with pokes, chambers etc. and then it makes it so you can pull off a big upset but because that team has won more rounds in other unrelated matches they get to go through?

Man I’m so glad I’m not playing in this

Rewards teams for being weaker in groups? No, it does the opposite. Rewards them for being lucky with pokes, chambers etc. what?

Now you're just blabbering

You lose a round to a lucky poke or a pure luck chamber, but still win the match, however that one round adds up to knock you out on round rate to a team that won less games but more rounds.

How is that fair?

Literally everyone else on here has agreed that wins > rounds I don’t see what the conversation here is, the people who actually want to play the tournament want it to be wins
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 22, 2022, 01:19:11 am
Funny thing is, I was also against rounds won originally (which you can tell in the draft thread), then I actually spent time thinking about it and determined that wins in group stage is heavily flawed. Knockouts it's fine.

I literally don’t see at all how it’s a better system, it rewards teams for being in weaker groups, rewards them for being lucky with pokes, chambers etc. and then it makes it so you can pull off a big upset but because that team has won more rounds in other unrelated matches they get to go through?

Man I’m so glad I’m not playing in this

Rewards teams for being weaker in groups? No, it does the opposite. Rewards them for being lucky with pokes, chambers etc. what?

Now you're just blabbering

You lose a round to a lucky poke or a pure luck chamber, but still win the match, however that one round adds up to knock you out on round rate to a team that won less games but more rounds.

Yes you're right, now let's pretend it's 4 - 4 and you lose the round to a lucky poke or lucky chamber. You've lost the match and rounds don't matter so those 4 rounds are worthless. At least with having 4 rounds you still have more chance of winning than a 0 - 1 match loss...

Again, you're just proving why wins are worse, keep going
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Alf on September 22, 2022, 01:20:43 am
Funny thing is, I was also against rounds won originally (which you can tell in the draft thread), then I actually spent time thinking about it and determined that wins in group stage is heavily flawed. Knockouts it's fine.

I literally don’t see at all how it’s a better system, it rewards teams for being in weaker groups, rewards them for being lucky with pokes, chambers etc. and then it makes it so you can pull off a big upset but because that team has won more rounds in other unrelated matches they get to go through?

Man I’m so glad I’m not playing in this

Rewards teams for being weaker in groups? No, it does the opposite. Rewards them for being lucky with pokes, chambers etc. what?

Now you're just blabbering

You lose a round to a lucky poke or a pure luck chamber, but still win the match, however that one round adds up to knock you out on round rate to a team that won less games but more rounds.

Yes you're right, now let's pretend it's 4 - 4 and you lose the round to a lucky poke or lucky chamber. You've lost the match and rounds don't matter so those 4 rounds are worthless.

Right? But you’ve had the entire match to win it, you had all those rounds you lost to make up for it, and you lost the match, but losing a round in a match you win being what disqualifies you is ludicrous
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 22, 2022, 01:21:29 am
Funny thing is, I was also against rounds won originally (which you can tell in the draft thread), then I actually spent time thinking about it and determined that wins in group stage is heavily flawed. Knockouts it's fine.

I literally don’t see at all how it’s a better system, it rewards teams for being in weaker groups, rewards them for being lucky with pokes, chambers etc. and then it makes it so you can pull off a big upset but because that team has won more rounds in other unrelated matches they get to go through?

Man I’m so glad I’m not playing in this

Rewards teams for being weaker in groups? No, it does the opposite. Rewards them for being lucky with pokes, chambers etc. what?

Now you're just blabbering

You lose a round to a lucky poke or a pure luck chamber, but still win the match, however that one round adds up to knock you out on round rate to a team that won less games but more rounds.

Yes you're right, now let's pretend it's 4 - 4 and you lose the round to a lucky poke or lucky chamber. You've lost the match and rounds don't matter so those 4 rounds are worthless.

Right? But you’ve had the entire match to win it, you had all those rounds you lost to make up for it, and you lost the match, but losing a round in a match you win being what disqualifies you is ludicrous

You have a higher chance of being disqualified with wins than rounds, are you just being silly for the sake of it? 4 - 5 is a close match and can go either way and should be treated as such, it means the teams are close in skill and that last round could go either way, so why can't that team have 4 rounds and potentially be above them? You make little sense.

Now stop arguing you look more and more like a fool
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Alf on September 22, 2022, 01:24:28 am
It really isn’t that hard to get mate, if you lose a match you lose a match, but if you’re in a position where on wins you go through but rounds you don’t, especially if it’s to a team you beat, that’s just stupidity.

Like I already said, you’re saying rounds show ability but you need a larger sample size than a single round through a group to actually show that
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 22, 2022, 01:25:56 am
It really isn’t that hard to get mate, if you lose a match you lose a match, but if you’re in a position where on wins you go through but rounds you don’t, especially if it’s to a team you beat, that’s just stupidity.

Like I already said, you’re saying rounds show ability but you need a larger sample size than a single round through a group to actually show that

No it's extremely hard to get, because you're just explaining why wins are worse than rounds, with wins you can literally go through over a team that beat you 5 - 0.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Alf on September 22, 2022, 01:35:56 am
It really isn’t that hard to get mate, if you lose a match you lose a match, but if you’re in a position where on wins you go through but rounds you don’t, especially if it’s to a team you beat, that’s just stupidity.

Like I already said, you’re saying rounds show ability but you need a larger sample size than a single round through a group to actually show that

No it's extremely hard to get, because you're just explaining why wins are worse than rounds, with wins you can literally go through over a team that beat you 5 - 0.

But it can happen, yes?

And not at all, if you won more games against the same group then you played overall better, if you won more games but with a lower round rate and don’t go through then what does that prove? That you’re too good at winning and not good enough at kerb stomping?
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 22, 2022, 01:37:58 am
It really isn’t that hard to get mate, if you lose a match you lose a match, but if you’re in a position where on wins you go through but rounds you don’t, especially if it’s to a team you beat, that’s just stupidity.

Like I already said, you’re saying rounds show ability but you need a larger sample size than a single round through a group to actually show that

No it's extremely hard to get, because you're just explaining why wins are worse than rounds, with wins you can literally go through over a team that beat you 5 - 0.

But it can happen, yes?

And not at all, if you won more games against the same group then you played overall better, if you won more games but with a lower round rate and don’t go through then what does that prove? That you’re too good at winning and not good enough at kerb stomping?

ok i stop now, ur just as stubborn as I am and you're just chatting shit
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Alf on September 22, 2022, 01:41:01 am
It really isn’t that hard to get mate, if you lose a match you lose a match, but if you’re in a position where on wins you go through but rounds you don’t, especially if it’s to a team you beat, that’s just stupidity.

Like I already said, you’re saying rounds show ability but you need a larger sample size than a single round through a group to actually show that

No it's extremely hard to get, because you're just explaining why wins are worse than rounds, with wins you can literally go through over a team that beat you 5 - 0.

But it can happen, yes?

And not at all, if you won more games against the same group then you played overall better, if you won more games but with a lower round rate and don’t go through then what does that prove? That you’re too good at winning and not good enough at kerb stomping?

ok i stop now, ur just as stubborn as I am and you're just chatting shit

Gf
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 22, 2022, 01:43:24 am
It really isn’t that hard to get mate, if you lose a match you lose a match, but if you’re in a position where on wins you go through but rounds you don’t, especially if it’s to a team you beat, that’s just stupidity.

Like I already said, you’re saying rounds show ability but you need a larger sample size than a single round through a group to actually show that

No it's extremely hard to get, because you're just explaining why wins are worse than rounds, with wins you can literally go through over a team that beat you 5 - 0.

But it can happen, yes?

And not at all, if you won more games against the same group then you played overall better, if you won more games but with a lower round rate and don’t go through then what does that prove? That you’re too good at winning and not good enough at kerb stomping?

ok i stop now, ur just as stubborn as I am and you're just chatting shit

Gf

What you wrote made you look very silly and again you're just giving reasons as to why rounds are better. 'If you won more games against the same group then you played better overall', No, that's literally the WHOLE REASON round wins are better.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Alf on September 22, 2022, 01:45:22 am
It really isn’t that hard to get mate, if you lose a match you lose a match, but if you’re in a position where on wins you go through but rounds you don’t, especially if it’s to a team you beat, that’s just stupidity.

Like I already said, you’re saying rounds show ability but you need a larger sample size than a single round through a group to actually show that

No it's extremely hard to get, because you're just explaining why wins are worse than rounds, with wins you can literally go through over a team that beat you 5 - 0.

But it can happen, yes?

And not at all, if you won more games against the same group then you played overall better, if you won more games but with a lower round rate and don’t go through then what does that prove? That you’re too good at winning and not good enough at kerb stomping?

ok i stop now, ur just as stubborn as I am and you're just chatting shit

Gf

What you wrote made you look very silly and again you're just giving reasons as to why rounds are better. 'If you won more games against the same group then you played better overall', No, that's literally the WHOLE REASON round wins is better.

Shhhhh go to bed
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Desant on September 22, 2022, 02:32:31 am
Yes you're right, now let's pretend it's 4 - 4 and you lose the round to a lucky poke or lucky chamber. You've lost the match and rounds don't matter so those 4 rounds are worthless. At least with having 4 rounds you still have more chance of winning than a 0 - 1 match loss...

Again, you're just proving why wins are worse, keep going

Dont reinvent the wheel

Wins only matter not ur scores

If u dont like random matches - add the minimum points difference to win, instead of 5-4 u should win with 2 rounds advantage - 6-4 or 11-9 its the way to see more "mastery"
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: maskmanmarks on September 22, 2022, 05:21:00 am
Wins>points

Clearly this is just people arguing for the sake of arguing and attempting two change already established fair and widely agreed on formats just for the sake of the drama. No surprises @Fietta  ::)

Ultimately its up to the tournament hosts who should decide what the format is, but if we are really invested in giving what the community wants and making it as community based as possible, why not make such a large change subject to a non binding vote? Just to see where people are on with this topic  :)
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 22, 2022, 05:42:31 am
Can you guys find a better hobby thx
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: AccursedGull on September 22, 2022, 07:57:53 am
no wonder the queen died looking at this shit format when it was posted
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Alf on September 22, 2022, 09:25:46 am
no wonder the queen died looking at this shit format when it was posted

Gull has spoken
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Arch4ngel on September 22, 2022, 10:51:06 am
Funny thing is, I was also against rounds won originally (which you can tell in the draft thread), then I actually spent time thinking about it and determined that wins in group stage is heavily flawed. Knockouts it's fine.

I literally don’t see at all how it’s a better system, it rewards teams for being in weaker groups, rewards them for being lucky with pokes, chambers etc. and then it makes it so you can pull off a big upset but because that team has won more rounds in other unrelated matches they get to go through?

Man I’m so glad I’m not playing in this

Rewards teams for being weaker in groups? No, it does the opposite. Rewards them for being lucky with pokes, chambers etc. what?

Now you're just blabbering

You lose a round to a lucky poke or a pure luck chamber, but still win the match, however that one round adds up to knock you out on round rate to a team that won less games but more rounds.

Yes you're right, now let's pretend it's 4 - 4 and you lose the round to a lucky poke or lucky chamber. You've lost the match and rounds don't matter so those 4 rounds are worthless. At least with having 4 rounds you still have more chance of winning than a 0 - 1 match loss...

Again, you're just proving why wins are worse, keep going
answered ages ago......

btw in this way u can lose 1-3 more rounds by "luck" and u will be knocked out by luckers that win 1 more round against hashira
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 22, 2022, 11:39:15 am
To stop any arguments we will do it based off round wins, and if on the day we deem the bracket to be in anyways fucked we will revert it and go off match wins. Sound like a compromise?
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 22, 2022, 11:41:48 am
Funny thing is, I was also against rounds won originally (which you can tell in the draft thread), then I actually spent time thinking about it and determined that wins in group stage is heavily flawed. Knockouts it's fine.

I literally don’t see at all how it’s a better system, it rewards teams for being in weaker groups, rewards them for being lucky with pokes, chambers etc. and then it makes it so you can pull off a big upset but because that team has won more rounds in other unrelated matches they get to go through?

Man I’m so glad I’m not playing in this

Rewards teams for being weaker in groups? No, it does the opposite. Rewards them for being lucky with pokes, chambers etc. what?

Now you're just blabbering

You lose a round to a lucky poke or a pure luck chamber, but still win the match, however that one round adds up to knock you out on round rate to a team that won less games but more rounds.

Yes you're right, now let's pretend it's 4 - 4 and you lose the round to a lucky poke or lucky chamber. You've lost the match and rounds don't matter so those 4 rounds are worthless. At least with having 4 rounds you still have more chance of winning than a 0 - 1 match loss...

Again, you're just proving why wins are worse, keep going
answered ages ago......

btw in this way u can lose 1-3 more rounds by "luck" and u will be knocked out by luckers that win 1 more round against hashira

Same thing can happen with wins, If I'm team 1 and I beat team 2 5 - 0 (stomp), but team 2 beat a bad team 5 - 4, they could go through and my 5 rounds stomp means nothing because they got 2 wins because they won one extra round against a bad team :)
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Alf on September 22, 2022, 11:46:07 am
Madness is to think of too many things in succession too fast, or of one thing too exclusively.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Kore on September 22, 2022, 12:34:51 pm
To stop any arguments we will do it based off round wins, and if on the day we deem the bracket to be in anyways fucked we will revert it and go off match wins. Sound like a compromise?

The draft tourney brackets wasn’t convincing enough?
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 22, 2022, 12:42:04 pm
To stop any arguments we will do it based off round wins, and if on the day we deem the bracket to be in anyways fucked we will revert it and go off match wins. Sound like a compromise?

The draft tourney brackets wasn’t convincing enough?

That's because they were setup wrong darling, he done it based on pts diff and not pts.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Herishey on September 22, 2022, 12:51:37 pm
If points difference was such a 'good' system it'd be used by now in a lot of other things, funnily enough wins is still used in almost every sport with points difference coming as a tie-breaker. All your arguments for the points/round system are literally a reverse of the arguments for the wins system. But the wins system has one major thing over points/round difference. It's a lot harder to win a match than a round, hence why the win is more significant. If you won against team A 5-0 then lost your next two matches either Team A had a rough match or you had one good one before becoming shite yourself and therefore you do not deserve to go through. Because 2 out of 3 wins is harder to achieve than 5 rounds, or one win in a match is harder than multiple rounds to achieve.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Arch4ngel on September 22, 2022, 01:06:11 pm
Funny thing is, I was also against rounds won originally (which you can tell in the draft thread), then I actually spent time thinking about it and determined that wins in group stage is heavily flawed. Knockouts it's fine.

I literally don’t see at all how it’s a better system, it rewards teams for being in weaker groups, rewards them for being lucky with pokes, chambers etc. and then it makes it so you can pull off a big upset but because that team has won more rounds in other unrelated matches they get to go through?

Man I’m so glad I’m not playing in this

Rewards teams for being weaker in groups? No, it does the opposite. Rewards them for being lucky with pokes, chambers etc. what?

Now you're just blabbering

You lose a round to a lucky poke or a pure luck chamber, but still win the match, however that one round adds up to knock you out on round rate to a team that won less games but more rounds.

Yes you're right, now let's pretend it's 4 - 4 and you lose the round to a lucky poke or lucky chamber. You've lost the match and rounds don't matter so those 4 rounds are worthless. At least with having 4 rounds you still have more chance of winning than a 0 - 1 match loss...

Again, you're just proving why wins are worse, keep going
answered ages ago......

btw in this way u can lose 1-3 more rounds by "luck" and u will be knocked out by luckers that win 1 more round against hashira

Same thing can happen with wins, If I'm team 1 and I beat team 2 5 - 0 (stomp), but team 2 beat a bad team 5 - 4, they could go through and my 5 rounds stomp means nothing because they got 2 wins because they won one extra round against a bad team :)
i gave you a solution above, make sure u read it properly

Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Tw1sT[eR] on September 22, 2022, 01:10:06 pm
If points difference was such a 'good' system it'd be used by now in a lot of other things, funnily enough wins is still used in almost every sport with points difference coming as a tie-breaker. All your arguments for the points/round system are literally a reverse of the arguments for the wins system. But the wins system has one major thing over points/round difference. It's a lot harder to win a match than a round, hence why the win is more significant. If you won against team A 5-0 then lost your next two matches either Team A had a rough match or you had one good one before becoming shite yourself and therefore you do not deserve to go through. Because 2 out of 3 wins is harder to achieve than 5 rounds, or one win in a match is harder than multiple rounds to achieve.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Gi on September 22, 2022, 01:47:22 pm
If points difference was such a 'good' system it'd be used by now in a lot of other things, funnily enough wins is still used in almost every sport with points difference coming as a tie-breaker. All your arguments for the points/round system are literally a reverse of the arguments for the wins system. But the wins system has one major thing over points/round difference. It's a lot harder to win a match than a round, hence why the win is more significant. If you won against team A 5-0 then lost your next two matches either Team A had a rough match or you had one good one before becoming shite yourself and therefore you do not deserve to go through. Because 2 out of 3 wins is harder to achieve than 5 rounds, or one win in a match is harder than multiple rounds to achieve.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 22, 2022, 02:06:56 pm
Thing with sport is that most sports use a double elimination or single elimination format, or there is an unlimited amount of points you can earn, for example in football there is no maximum points u can score in a match whereas here it’s only 5. For that reason it’s fine to use, other wise you’d have 20 points in one match and only 2 in another and it becomes a problem then.

Again. If the brackets on the day are fucked we will change it. But let’s just try something? The whole point of this series was to do unconventional tournaments to spice up the pretty boring gf scene rn so let’s stop the crying and just see how it is?
Cool thx
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: MarxeiL on September 22, 2022, 02:09:58 pm
Thing with sport is that most sports use a double elimination or single elimination format, or there is an unlimited amount of points you can earn, for example in football there is no maximum points u can score in a match whereas here it’s only 5. For that reason it’s fine to use, other wise you’d have 20 points in one match and only 2 in another and it becomes a problem then.

Again. If the brackets on the day are fucked we will change it. But let’s just try something? The whole point of this series was to do unconventional tournaments to spice up the pretty boring gf scene rn so let’s stop the crying and just see how it is?
Cool thx
Classic tournament with retarded point system won't make gf scene less boring  :)
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Herishey on September 22, 2022, 02:10:50 pm
You say 'lets just try something' but both this series and others have done it in the past, so far it's always gone shite and ended up reverting for that reason. Doing more test runs will only lead to the same results, this is quite literally the definition of insanity. Doing unconventional tournaments doesn't mean you should just use retarded formats for the fun of it. 'Unconventional tournaments' btw, 'Classic 6v6' teehee.

EDIT: MarxeiL beat me to it the rat.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 22, 2022, 02:14:04 pm
People cry about anything, just play and do well and you won't have an issue! 'retarded formats' give me a break
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 22, 2022, 02:20:15 pm
You say 'lets just try something' but both this series and others have done it in the past, so far it's always gone shite and ended up reverting for that reason. Doing more test runs will only lead to the same results, this is quite literally the definition of insanity. Doing unconventional tournaments doesn't mean you should just use retarded formats for the fun of it. 'Unconventional tournaments' btw, 'Classic 6v6' teehee.

EDIT: MarxeiL beat me to it the rat.
Ye I see ur point but in my opinion it will make group-stages far more competitive since every round counts. Which is ultimately something I want to see.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Alf on September 22, 2022, 02:33:47 pm
A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Vegi. on September 22, 2022, 02:35:05 pm
A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool.
You're a wise fool
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 22, 2022, 02:37:56 pm
A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool.

Cheers for that Alf
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Herishey on September 22, 2022, 03:03:46 pm
You say 'lets just try something' but both this series and others have done it in the past, so far it's always gone shite and ended up reverting for that reason. Doing more test runs will only lead to the same results, this is quite literally the definition of insanity. Doing unconventional tournaments doesn't mean you should just use retarded formats for the fun of it. 'Unconventional tournaments' btw, 'Classic 6v6' teehee.

EDIT: MarxeiL beat me to it the rat.
Ye I see ur point but in my opinion it will make group-stages far more competitive since every round counts. Which is ultimately something I want to see.
'Far more competitive' is definitely an over-statement. Quite often 'good' teams will lose a few rounds to any old teams if they underestimate them or just start not playing properly as they believe them to not be a challenge where as against a middle-ground or lower-good team they then go full tryhard. So the worse team gets a 5-3 but the better team gets a  5-0 against the same opponent due to the mentality of NW players/teams. That won't change so the middle to lower-good teams could easily be done in by such a system whilst shite teams make it one more round only to be ruined in the knockouts. That's not more competitive it's delaying the inevitable. :)

To be clear I don't believe it'll effect the very top teams, your Renegades or RT's but other 'good' teams will lose out due to the poor mentality from a lot of top/better players.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: AchillesTheOne on September 22, 2022, 03:59:31 pm
You are all beneath me, hence forth i should decide, wins is for alphas because only winners win.... and losers like yourselvses lose.

if a good team loses 3x 4-5 then it's their fault for not being good enough to WIN lol :)))))

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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Alf on September 22, 2022, 04:11:06 pm
You are all beneath me, hence forth i should decide, wins is for alphas because only winners win.... and losers like yourselvses lose.

if a good team loses 3x 4-5 then it's their fault for not being good enough to WIN lol :)))))

Spoiler
to be a winner like myself and not one of these round-bums check out achillesmeleeacademy.com use promo code "WINNERS" for 99% discount.
--https://youtu.be/EpVOndGAA8A for the organisers..

Kind Regards
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Watch your heel
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Chuckster on September 22, 2022, 04:53:31 pm
You are all beneath me, hence forth i should decide, wins is for alphas because only winners win.... and losers like yourselvses lose.

if a good team loses 3x 4-5 then it's their fault for not being good enough to WIN lol :)))))

Spoiler
to be a winner like myself and not one of these round-bums check out achillesmeleeacademy.com use promo code "WINNERS" for 99% discount.
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Kind Regards
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Chuckster on September 22, 2022, 04:59:04 pm
You say 'lets just try something' but both this series and others have done it in the past, so far it's always gone shite and ended up reverting for that reason. Doing more test runs will only lead to the same results, this is quite literally the definition of insanity. Doing unconventional tournaments doesn't mean you should just use retarded formats for the fun of it. 'Unconventional tournaments' btw, 'Classic 6v6' teehee.

EDIT: MarxeiL beat me to it the rat.
Ye I see ur point but in my opinion it will make group-stages far more competitive since every round counts. Which is ultimately something I want to see.
'Far more competitive' is definitely an over-statement. Quite often 'good' teams will lose a few rounds to any old teams if they underestimate them or just start not playing properly as they believe them to not be a challenge where as against a middle-ground or lower-good team they then go full tryhard. So the worse team gets a 5-3 but the better team gets a  5-0 against the same opponent due to the mentality of NW players/teams. That won't change so the middle to lower-good teams could easily be done in by such a system whilst shite teams make it one more round only to be ruined in the knockouts. That's not more competitive it's delaying the inevitable. :)

To be clear I don't believe it'll effect the very top teams, your Renegades or RT's but other 'good' teams will lose out due to the poor mentality from a lot of top/better players.
The real problem is the amount of tournament format from 5v5 to 8v8 so basically your team need to have 8 good players to win a 8v8 but in a 5v5 you have 3 "good player" lock in spec. So to have a perfect competitive scene you need to just have 5v5 format with no player on the bench like csgo etc and you will have like 6 good team playing for the win.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Mauri on September 22, 2022, 06:56:08 pm
vallah billah wins>points and its not even close, everyone knows that inclusive blitz and fietta even tho they wont want to say
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Vegi. on September 22, 2022, 06:57:47 pm
vallah billah wins>points and its not even close, everyone knows that inclusive blitz and fietta even tho they wont want to say
Literally what I said (so it's true) before my comments were deleted #HeteroBashing
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 22, 2022, 07:08:57 pm
Haha funny gay joke omg so unique.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Herishey on September 22, 2022, 07:26:23 pm
You say 'lets just try something' but both this series and others have done it in the past, so far it's always gone shite and ended up reverting for that reason. Doing more test runs will only lead to the same results, this is quite literally the definition of insanity. Doing unconventional tournaments doesn't mean you should just use retarded formats for the fun of it. 'Unconventional tournaments' btw, 'Classic 6v6' teehee.

EDIT: MarxeiL beat me to it the rat.
Ye I see ur point but in my opinion it will make group-stages far more competitive since every round counts. Which is ultimately something I want to see.
'Far more competitive' is definitely an over-statement. Quite often 'good' teams will lose a few rounds to any old teams if they underestimate them or just start not playing properly as they believe them to not be a challenge where as against a middle-ground or lower-good team they then go full tryhard. So the worse team gets a 5-3 but the better team gets a  5-0 against the same opponent due to the mentality of NW players/teams. That won't change so the middle to lower-good teams could easily be done in by such a system whilst shite teams make it one more round only to be ruined in the knockouts. That's not more competitive it's delaying the inevitable. :)

To be clear I don't believe it'll effect the very top teams, your Renegades or RT's but other 'good' teams will lose out due to the poor mentality from a lot of top/better players.
The real problem is the amount of tournament format from 5v5 to 8v8 so basically your team need to have 8 good players to win a 8v8 but in a 5v5 you have 3 "good player" lock in spec. So to have a perfect competitive scene you need to just have 5v5 format with no player on the bench like csgo etc and you will have like 6 good team playing for the win.
This is not entirely wrong, but I believe it's too late to resolve that issue since most teams now have so many players and wouldn't want to drop a bunch, The scene would be a lot more competitive with only 5v5/6v6's though.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Golden. on September 22, 2022, 08:11:43 pm
@Fietta while I don't disagree with most of your point's I think you are looking at this too logically, yes on paper each round becomes more important however overall in a tournament scenario it's completely different.

I don't want to reiterate some of herishey's and others points, however I would like to bring to light some bits of empirical evidence where we have tried this before, once was the PTK and I know the bracket was wrong but you still didn't change it and went ahead with the shit decision (very worrying).

Second is a Marxeil and I think Wursti tournament, don't remember the format but it was one big group with a round based system and I distinctly remember winning based of a single round with PB in a match against a Russian team and that was the deciding factor.

It felt garbage to win like we hadn't achieved what we wanted, in addition to that I remember we 7-0 snappers and they really did get unlucky in our match and despite them going on to beat cazadores (who we almost lost to) they ended like 5th in the bracket.

IMO with so few teams in what is an extremely volatile competitive format as others have stated some rounds can go the other way it seems to me like you really are just causing unnecessary drama and trouble.

@Blitz in football its based on 90 minutes + extra time instead of a points limit so a counter argument would be with more time the other team might have won, just like saying well with more rounds we might have won. There is a limit set for a reason it's the first to reach it, it doesn't matter how you got there.

Point's being the decider makes far more sense.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Python | Smeagol on September 22, 2022, 08:17:39 pm
ight some bits of empirical evidence where we have tried this before, once was the PTK and I know the bracket was wrong but you still didn't change it and went ahead with the shit decision (very worrying).

Second is a Marxeil and I think Wursti tournament, don't remember the format but it was one big group with a round based system and I distinctly remember winning based of a single round with PB in a match against a Russian team and that was the deciding factor.

It felt garbage to win like we hadn't achieved what we wanted, in addition to that I remember we 7-0 snappers and they really did get unlucky in our match and despite them going on to beat cazadores (who we almost lost to) they ended like 5th in the bracket.


Was that the one where we lost to CCCP (marxeil, DOMI, Ivan etc) like 5-2 or smth but we still won the tourney over them by 1 pt?
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Golden. on September 22, 2022, 08:20:37 pm
ight some bits of empirical evidence where we have tried this before, once was the PTK and I know the bracket was wrong but you still didn't change it and went ahead with the shit decision (very worrying).

Second is a Marxeil and I think Wursti tournament, don't remember the format but it was one big group with a round based system and I distinctly remember winning based of a single round with PB in a match against a Russian team and that was the deciding factor.

It felt garbage to win like we hadn't achieved what we wanted, in addition to that I remember we 7-0 snappers and they really did get unlucky in our match and despite them going on to beat cazadores (who we almost lost to) they ended like 5th in the bracket.


Was that the one where we lost to CCCP (marxeil, DOMI, Ivan etc) like 5-2 or smth but we still won the tourney over them by 1 pt?

Oh yes that was it!
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 22, 2022, 09:03:17 pm
@Fietta while I don't disagree with most of your point's I think you are looking at this too logically, yes on paper each round becomes more important however overall in a tournament scenario it's completely different.

I don't want to reiterate some of herishey's and others points, however I would like to bring to light some bits of empirical evidence where we have tried this before, once was the PTK and I know the bracket was wrong but you still didn't change it and went ahead with the shit decision (very worrying).

Second is a Marxeil and I think Wursti tournament, don't remember the format but it was one big group with a round based system and I distinctly remember winning based of a single round with PB in a match against a Russian team and that was the deciding factor.

It felt garbage to win like we hadn't achieved what we wanted, in addition to that I remember we 7-0 snappers and they really did get unlucky in our match and despite them going on to beat cazadores (who we almost lost to) they ended like 5th in the bracket.

IMO with so few teams in what is an extremely volatile competitive format as others have stated some rounds can go the other way it seems to me like you really are just causing unnecessary drama and trouble.

@Blitz in football its based on 90 minutes + extra time instead of a points limit so a counter argument would be with more time the other team might have won, just like saying well with more rounds we might have won. There is a limit set for a reason it's the first to reach it, it doesn't matter how you got there.

Point's being the decider makes far more sense.

fair enough

I don't want to reiterate some of herishey's and others points, however I would like to bring to light some bits of empirical evidence where we have tried this before, once was the PTK and I know the bracket was wrong but you still didn't change it and went ahead with the shit decision (very worrying).

Well, given the choice Giorno and I would've changed it
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: MarxeiL on September 23, 2022, 09:33:32 pm
ight some bits of empirical evidence where we have tried this before, once was the PTK and I know the bracket was wrong but you still didn't change it and went ahead with the shit decision (very worrying).

Second is a Marxeil and I think Wursti tournament, don't remember the format but it was one big group with a round based system and I distinctly remember winning based of a single round with PB in a match against a Russian team and that was the deciding factor.

It felt garbage to win like we hadn't achieved what we wanted, in addition to that I remember we 7-0 snappers and they really did get unlucky in our match and despite them going on to beat cazadores (who we almost lost to) they ended like 5th in the bracket.


Was that the one where we lost to CCCP (marxeil, DOMI, Ivan etc) like 5-2 or smth but we still won the tourney over them by 1 pt?
Hate it
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: David_Schrein on September 23, 2022, 10:05:19 pm
ight some bits of empirical evidence where we have tried this before, once was the PTK and I know the bracket was wrong but you still didn't change it and went ahead with the shit decision (very worrying).

Second is a Marxeil and I think Wursti tournament, don't remember the format but it was one big group with a round based system and I distinctly remember winning based of a single round with PB in a match against a Russian team and that was the deciding factor.

It felt garbage to win like we hadn't achieved what we wanted, in addition to that I remember we 7-0 snappers and they really did get unlucky in our match and despite them going on to beat cazadores (who we almost lost to) they ended like 5th in the bracket.


Was that the one where we lost to CCCP (marxeil, DOMI, Ivan etc) like 5-2 or smth but we still won the tourney over them by 1 pt?
Hate it
thats only because they lost one tho
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 24, 2022, 04:59:22 pm
washed stack
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: David_Schrein on September 24, 2022, 05:19:26 pm
washed stack
losers stay losing zzzzzz
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 24, 2022, 05:20:03 pm
washed stack
losers stay losing zzzzzz
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Giorno on September 24, 2022, 05:55:55 pm
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Nice stack

trust the process, grouped is coming back
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fluxyy on September 24, 2022, 06:05:36 pm
You kids hurt my head for always wanting to debate this shitty game wake up and focus on your life irl
get a job kid
Who asked? and don't forget that I destroy you at games even without playing them
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: RhameRoK on September 24, 2022, 06:17:13 pm
Code
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Plushka on September 24, 2022, 06:22:05 pm
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Ceedoy on September 24, 2022, 06:58:07 pm
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: higened243ed on September 24, 2022, 07:01:58 pm
washed stack
losers stay losing zzzzzz
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: EPICxPIZZA on September 24, 2022, 07:44:13 pm
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Edited
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Witold on September 25, 2022, 01:38:04 pm
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Need a last
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Ciombwoy on September 25, 2022, 01:54:44 pm
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updated
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Arch4ngel on September 25, 2022, 02:12:15 pm
free
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: MarxeiL on September 25, 2022, 04:11:40 pm
Free agent
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 25, 2022, 04:26:38 pm
Reminder roster deadline is for 7pm GMT today, please make sure you sort it before then so i can have ur GUID added to the whitelist
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: flo on September 25, 2022, 04:37:41 pm
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Nice stack
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Ceedoy on September 25, 2022, 04:41:13 pm
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Arch4ngel on September 25, 2022, 04:44:35 pm
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giga stack
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 25, 2022, 04:46:35 pm
Looking for one team to replace Gojp as they refused to play unless spooky was given admin which isn't something we are prepared to do after he has trolled previous tournaments with admin.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Ceedoy on September 25, 2022, 04:48:43 pm
Looking for one team to replace Gojp as they refused to play unless spooky was given admin which isn't something we are prepared to do after he has trolled previous tournaments with admin.
Let me ask someone..
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Xaos on September 25, 2022, 04:59:52 pm
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 25, 2022, 05:06:33 pm
Also since i've had some messages we have decided to have 9 man roster's for this tournament to give teams the possibility of large uncapped rosters.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: LeBrave on September 25, 2022, 05:07:13 pm
im looking for a team. If someone need a player.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Ceedoy on September 25, 2022, 05:13:22 pm
Also since i've had some messages we have decided to have 9 man roster's for this tournament to give teams the possibility of large uncapped rosters.
oh nice
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Ceedoy on September 25, 2022, 05:14:19 pm
If we could also add a "Losers' grid", that would be great.
 For the teams that didn't make it out of the group - one grid.
For those who made it out of it - another.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Giorno on September 25, 2022, 05:18:53 pm
There will be a Lower Bracket knockouts on server 2 after groupstages
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Alpha_Icarus on September 25, 2022, 05:59:30 pm
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1341627 Ghrosse     Russia
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1702301 Lulu       
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Arch4ngel on September 25, 2022, 06:08:39 pm
trolls killed some teamleaders to get a free spot
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Alpha_Icarus on September 25, 2022, 06:48:17 pm
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1341627 Ghrosse     Russia
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1702301 Lulu          France     
last update
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Giorno on September 25, 2022, 07:29:19 pm
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Final update
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Witold on September 25, 2022, 07:34:20 pm
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Need a lastekre
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Ceedoy on September 25, 2022, 07:43:58 pm
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Smylie on September 25, 2022, 08:03:49 pm
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Tomppa on September 25, 2022, 09:03:19 pm
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Herishey on September 25, 2022, 10:51:14 pm
Gg, fun tourney went fairly quick in our group considering its size. RIP RT noobs!!
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Trexons on September 25, 2022, 11:31:33 pm
gg, Hashira was the hardest team in the tournament
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Mauri on September 25, 2022, 11:32:42 pm
gg

pls change server tho it was lagging even after the resets
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Witold on September 25, 2022, 11:38:01 pm
GG MAJ finnaly got something in nw first place in loser bracket
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: David_Schrein on September 25, 2022, 11:41:39 pm
gg, close matches

The server was horrid
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: sHype on September 25, 2022, 11:41:52 pm
all im saying is that NPP would have been in the final if it was ft5

besides that gg guys  8)
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 25, 2022, 11:42:28 pm
gg
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Gibby Jr on September 25, 2022, 11:44:13 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvlAor2ONsc
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Golden. on September 25, 2022, 11:44:29 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvlAor2ONsc

dogs  8)
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Steinmann on September 25, 2022, 11:44:33 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvlAor2ONsc
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: flo on September 25, 2022, 11:44:49 pm
pure dogshit servers
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Luke_Blacktham on September 25, 2022, 11:45:26 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvlAor2ONsc
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Ceedoy on September 25, 2022, 11:46:05 pm
gg , ty for host , was insane tournament !
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: HiReaper on September 25, 2022, 11:46:11 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvlAor2ONsc
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Ceedoy on September 25, 2022, 11:49:40 pm
gg, Hashira was the hardest team in the tournament
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Giorno on September 25, 2022, 11:50:50 pm
1st Renegades, 2nd RT, 3rd NPP
1st MAJ, 2nd 115e, 3rd Spectres

GGs all.

Hopefully this was a better experience than before. The servers were a big issue so will try to fix for the final ATS tournament.
Thanks to all admins who called and helped during the tourney.

Big thanks to Tomppa for handling server 2 as well.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Ceedoy on September 25, 2022, 11:53:10 pm
1st Renegades, 2nd RT, 3rd NPP
1st MAJ, 2nd 115e, 3rd Spectres

GGs all.

Hopefully this was a better experience than before. The servers were a big issue so will try to fix for the final ATS tournament.
Thanks to all admins who called and helped during the tourney.

Big thanks to Tomppa for handling server 2 as well.

tommpa the best
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Naatsuu on September 26, 2022, 12:02:49 am
Rly tense competition between npp and Polska in third place match unfortunately won by npp 7-6 because the dead have carried the whole team but GG
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fluxyy on September 26, 2022, 12:06:01 am
1st Renegades, 2nd RT, 3rd NPP
1st MAJ, 2nd 115e, 3rd Spectres

GGs all.

Hopefully this was a better experience than before. The servers were a big issue so will try to fix for the final ATS tournament.
Thanks to all admins who called and helped during the tourney.

Big thanks to Tomppa for handling server 2 as well.
Well done MAJ (big up lebrun tchongi)
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Tomppa on September 26, 2022, 12:11:08 am
1st Renegades, 2nd RT, 3rd NPP
1st MAJ, 2nd 115e, 3rd Spectres

GGs all.

Hopefully this was a better experience than before. The servers were a big issue so will try to fix for the final ATS tournament.
Thanks to all admins who called and helped during the tourney.

Big thanks to Tomppa for handling server 2 as well.

tommpa the best
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Witold on September 26, 2022, 12:13:51 am
1st Renegades, 2nd RT, 3rd NPP
1st MAJ, 2nd 115e, 3rd Spectres

GGs all.

Hopefully this was a better experience than before. The servers were a big issue so will try to fix for the final ATS tournament.
Thanks to all admins who called and helped during the tourney.

Big thanks to Tomppa for handling server 2 as well.

tommpa the best
Ty tommpa  ;)
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Naatsuu on September 26, 2022, 01:12:59 am
Btw I should get a reward for carrying today and one week ago ::) ::) :o I need cash to buy RISK maps and premium to get unlimited tokens(wow)☠️
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Arch4ngel on September 26, 2022, 01:17:11 am
Btw I should get a reward for carrying today and one week ago ::) ::) :o I need cash to buy RISK maps and premium to get unlimited tokens(wow)☠️
make patents for your glitch for earn some money in future
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Ciombwoy on September 26, 2022, 01:24:18 am
(https://i.imgur.com/axW2RwE.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/7b8XciE.png)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmLnHPx_q2A
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Giles on September 26, 2022, 01:25:05 am
gg
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 26, 2022, 01:25:47 am
Natsauu acting like he won a week ago. STAY LOSING.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: David_Schrein on September 26, 2022, 01:53:23 am
Natsauu acting like he won a week ago. STAY LOSING.
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: BlitzkriegMBNW on September 26, 2022, 02:17:09 am
👺👺👺👺
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Mauri on September 26, 2022, 11:28:17 am
I have to point out Vemon got the last kill in the match for 3rd, therefore he is our official tournament MVP
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: MarxeiL on September 26, 2022, 11:51:29 am
👺👺👺👺
I didn't play in semis just cause of this kid ^
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Voluble123 on September 26, 2022, 12:51:18 pm
Congrats renegades what a team led by the mighty great Bagins from Salisbury!!!!! To see such great Irish talents as Giorno follow the footsteps of Ivan and Irish is also very heartwarming! Commiserations to the The Stack Table for losing to such a worthy opponent! Great to see such riveting gameplay, wow!
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Hertz on September 26, 2022, 12:59:32 pm
Congrats renegades what a team led by the mighty great Bagins from Salisbury!!!!! To see such great Irish talents as Giorno follow the footsteps of Ivan and Irish is also very heartwarming! Commiserations to the The Stack Table for losing to such a worthy opponent! Great to see such riveting gameplay, wow!
Go and sell some broadband packages and some pay as you go sims gimp. Shooo
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Voluble123 on September 26, 2022, 01:04:25 pm
Congrats renegades what a team led by the mighty great Bagins from Salisbury!!!!! To see such great Irish talents as Giorno follow the footsteps of Ivan and Irish is also very heartwarming! Commiserations to the The Stack Table for losing to such a worthy opponent! Great to see such riveting gameplay, wow!
Go and sell some broadband packages and some pay as you go sims gimp. Shooo
Lucas leave me alone I’m merely talking about the brilliant tournament and it’s surprising outcome!
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Hertz on September 26, 2022, 01:07:21 pm
Congrats renegades what a team led by the mighty great Bagins from Salisbury!!!!! To see such great Irish talents as Giorno follow the footsteps of Ivan and Irish is also very heartwarming! Commiserations to the The Stack Table for losing to such a worthy opponent! Great to see such riveting gameplay, wow!
Go and sell some broadband packages and some pay as you go sims gimp. Shooo
Lucas leave me alone I’m merely talking about the brilliant tournament and it’s surprising outcome!
Not that surprising when one of RTs top players goes to bed after losing to Crappers!
Connar schooled BlackPython so hard he had to get an early night.

I'd also argue Renegades is more of a stack than RT
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Voluble123 on September 26, 2022, 01:15:05 pm
Congrats renegades what a team led by the mighty great Bagins from Salisbury!!!!! To see such great Irish talents as Giorno follow the footsteps of Ivan and Irish is also very heartwarming! Commiserations to the The Stack Table for losing to such a worthy opponent! Great to see such riveting gameplay, wow!
Go and sell some broadband packages and some pay as you go sims gimp. Shooo
Lucas leave me alone I’m merely talking about the brilliant tournament and it’s surprising outcome!
Not that surprising when one of RTs top players goes to bed after losing to Crappers!
Connar schooled BlackPython so hard he had to get an early night.

I'd also argue Renegades is more of a stack than RT
Tbh you are right, I’ve been hearing Fietta is worse or as good as Steinmann and Cody now and that ilypa and smallest are as good as someone called PD? I don’t know him but it sounds like an interest time to be in NW! ChimpZ time?
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 26, 2022, 01:19:32 pm
I'd also argue Renegades is more of a stack than RT

We're just simply not active enough anymore unfortunately
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Hertz on September 26, 2022, 01:21:20 pm
I'd also argue Renegades is more of a stack than RT

We're just simply not active enough anymore unfortunately
Not active enough? you have like 5/6 gfs a week?
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Voluble123 on September 26, 2022, 01:23:12 pm
I'd also argue Renegades is more of a stack than RT

We're just simply not active enough anymore unfortunately
Not active enough? you have like 5/6 gfs a week?
Yeah activity is everything but player wise they both have very good top players it just the average player on renegades is better as I said earlier with Steinmann and Cody etc
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Luke_Blacktham on September 26, 2022, 01:36:20 pm
I want to see more of the new npp snappers rivalry
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Gibby Jr on September 26, 2022, 01:46:42 pm
I'd also argue Renegades is more of a stack than RT

We're just simply not active enough anymore unfortunately

you play more groupfights than us
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 26, 2022, 01:47:02 pm
I'd also argue Renegades is more of a stack than RT

We're just simply not active enough anymore unfortunately
Not active enough? you have like 5/6 gfs a week?

You're a moron. Our main line-up isn't there, DOMI hasn't come to a gf in about a month, Jakob turns up once every 3 weeks. I'm not really complaining though, we still win tournaments. We're also trialing due to a lack of players, and trials fill up around 50% of our players for gfs. Quantity of groupfights don't dictate the quality of groupfights, haven't had a full RT lineup in about 5 months and were even worried if we'd get 6 yesterday.

I'd also argue Renegades is more of a stack than RT

We're just simply not active enough anymore unfortunately

you play more groupfights than us

Not true, we used to do more but we've cut a lot of them
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Giorno on September 26, 2022, 01:52:38 pm
Renegades is recruiting  8)
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Gibby Jr on September 26, 2022, 01:54:14 pm
Renegades is recruiting  8)
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Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Vegi. on September 26, 2022, 01:55:15 pm
I'd also argue Renegades is more of a stack than RT

We're just simply not active enough anymore unfortunately
Not active enough? you have like 5/6 gfs a week?

You're a moron. Our main line-up isn't there, DOMI hasn't come to a gf in about a month, Jakob turns up once every 3 weeks. I'm not really complaining though, we still win tournaments. We're also trialing due to a lack of players, and trials fill up around 50% of our players for gfs. Quantity of groupfights don't dictate the quality of groupfights, haven't had a full RT lineup in about 5 months.

I'd also argue Renegades is more of a stack than RT

We're just simply not active enough anymore unfortunately

you play more groupfights than us

Not true, we used to do more but we've cut a lot of them
still sounds as an excuse 😂😂😂
Title: Re: ATS | 6v6 Classic Tournament | 25.09
Post by: Fietta on September 26, 2022, 01:56:00 pm
still sounds as an excuse 😂😂😂

And a good one at that


anyways locking the thread, the last tournament 5v5 role tournament will be up soon.