A small step for now but a big step for the community.a moderated Citroen Saxo is still a Citroen Saxo.
Tbh, I Think it's quite hard to get a melee which is as easy and as rewarding as it is in nw. Neither Holdfast nor war of rights has managed thatI think holdfast and war of rights were designed more for "casual" events and immersion not really for competitive or complicated melee mechanics.
bannerlord for linebattles then switch to warband for groupfightsalso this ^
perfect
It's not as bad as the beta now but it's far from fun.facts. everything kinda still feels like you're floating in bannerlord.
It's not as bad as the beta now but it's far from fun.facts. everything kinda still feels like you're floating in bannerlord.
Also I will be doing an "interview" with the sword & musket teams so if you have any questions for them send them my way
Looks awesome. But it seems that you’ve created another Holdfast. The New NW needs the very same melee system.we haven't seen any of the mechanics and how they work to soon to tell.
Looks awesome. But it seems that you’ve created another Holdfast. The New NW needs the very same melee system.
Looks awesome. But it seems that you’ve created another Holdfast. The New NW needs the very same melee system.we haven't seen any of the mechanics and how they work to soon to tell.
Copying the melee isn't as simple as it sounds since Bannerlord is an entirely different game. But the main focus is to keep a lot of things as similar as we can.Exactly. We don’t need another Holdfast.
May I humbly request that the acronym for this mod does not remain as S&M.I want to my play SM with my friends, what do you want?
Thankyou.
Looks awesome. But it seems that you’ve created another Holdfast. The New NW needs the very same melee system.
Can we rename it to Bonaparte's Dawn Sword & Musket so we can play BDSM with friendsI'm shocked this was missed during early development ::) in all honesty though they should have said the name of their mod aloud before going with it haha - not too late to change it!!
Just doing some SM with the boys
Can we rename it to Bonaparte's Dawn Sword & Musket so we can play BDSM with friendsI'm shocked this was missed during early development ::) in all honesty though they should have said the name of their mod aloud before going with it haha - not too late to change it!!
Can we rename it to Bonaparte's Dawn Sword & Musket so we can play BDSM with friendsI'm shocked this was missed during early development ::) in all honesty though they should have said the name of their mod aloud before going with it haha - not too late to change it!!
What is your suggestion?
For gods sake, gentlemen, please don't. If you had seen our previous name preferences, you would have made a bad comment on this project.
At first, its name was "1789: Revolution", after just "Revolution", then we changed it. We exchanged a few ideas and brainstormed, and it turned out Sword & Musket. I don't understand why the acronym is S&M so badly. :)
For gods sake, gentlemen, please don't. If you had seen our previous name preferences, you would have made a bad comment on this project.
At first, its name was "1789: Revolution", after just "Revolution", then we changed it. We exchanged a few ideas and brainstormed, and it turned out Sword & Musket. I don't understand why the acronym is S&M so badly. :)Spoilersadomasochism
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noun
interaction, especially sexual activity, in which one person enjoys inflicting physical or mental suffering on another person, who derives pleasure from experiencing pain.
gratification, especially sexual, gained through inflicting or receiving pain; sadism and masochism combined. Abbreviation: S&M, S and M[close]
its a pretty world renown acronym thats why lol
what does this meanFor gods sake, gentlemen, please don't. If you had seen our previous name preferences, you would have made a bad comment on this project.
At first, its name was "1789: Revolution", after just "Revolution", then we changed it. We exchanged a few ideas and brainstormed, and it turned out Sword & Musket. I don't understand why the acronym is S&M so badly. :)Spoilersadomasochism
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SEE SYNONYMS FOR sadomasochism
noun
interaction, especially sexual activity, in which one person enjoys inflicting physical or mental suffering on another person, who derives pleasure from experiencing pain.
gratification, especially sexual, gained through inflicting or receiving pain; sadism and masochism combined. Abbreviation: S&M, S and M[close]
its a pretty world renown acronym thats why lol
Oh damn it. I did not know that. I understand Kincaid quite well now.
But don't worry. We do not hurt you about this :D
By the way, to be honest. Most of the NW players are in pain. It was natural to think about such things, as we saw very friendly betrayal in this environment. Don't worry, but you can say whatever you want. Generally, although the official name of the mod is Sword & Musket, I think there will be Bannerlord-NW pronunciations in general.
a moderated Citroen Saxo is still a Citroen Saxo.
Bannerlord is pretty awful and development hasn't changed anything major for months which is unbelievably slow for an "Early access" game
well i think we should expect the same development like in Warband. We want to have a modification like Mount & Musket first. And i‘m pretty sure Taleworlds will make a DLC out of Fanwork again.a moderated Citroen Saxo is still a Citroen Saxo.
Bannerlord is pretty awful and development hasn't changed anything major for months which is unbelievably slow for an "Early access" game
Well I don't really agree, I've got a bit less than 100hrs of MP on bannerlord at this point and it's defintely getting there. I fail to see where the game is awful, because hitboxes are clearer than ever, there are close to no pokes, and feints are easier to dodge/block as well as more natural than on native. Also, multiplayer skirms are getting more and more interesting as the competitive community is starting to develop.
I would agree on a few 2h nerfs but other than that, objectively, it's defo improving. You may not like it, that's up to you but I wouldn't call the game awful.
I also personally don't believe nw players should ask for a 'retextured nw'. NW is a DLC for Warband, S&M will be a MOD for a game that's come out 10 years after. Trying to duplicate the exact same mecanics would be a huge step back, and one that isn't even sure of being compatible with the new game's mecanics.
a moderated Citroen Saxo is still a Citroen Saxo.
Bannerlord is pretty awful and development hasn't changed anything major for months which is unbelievably slow for an "Early access" game
Well I don't really agree, I've got a bit less than 100hrs of MP on bannerlord at this point and it's defintely getting there. I fail to see where the game is awful, because hitboxes are clearer than ever, there are close to no pokes, and feints are easier to dodge/block as well as more natural than on native. Also, multiplayer skirms are getting more and more interesting as the competitive community is starting to develop.
I would agree on a few 2h nerfs but other than that, objectively, it's defo improving. You may not like it, that's up to you but I wouldn't call the game awful.
I also personally don't believe nw players should ask for a 'retextured nw'. NW is a DLC for Warband, S&M will be a MOD for a game that's come out 10 years after. Trying to duplicate the exact same mecanics would be a huge step back, and one that isn't even sure of being compatible with the new game's mecanics.
a moderated Citroen Saxo is still a Citroen Saxo.
Bannerlord is pretty awful and development hasn't changed anything major for months which is unbelievably slow for an "Early access" game
Well I don't really agree, I've got a bit less than 100hrs of MP on bannerlord at this point and it's defintely getting there. I fail to see where the game is awful, because hitboxes are clearer than ever, there are close to no pokes, and feints are easier to dodge/block as well as more natural than on native. Also, multiplayer skirms are getting more and more interesting as the competitive community is starting to develop.
I would agree on a few 2h nerfs but other than that, objectively, it's defo improving. You may not like it, that's up to you but I wouldn't call the game awful.
I also personally don't believe nw players should ask for a 'retextured nw'. NW is a DLC for Warband, S&M will be a MOD for a game that's come out 10 years after. Trying to duplicate the exact same mecanics would be a huge step back, and one that isn't even sure of being compatible with the new game's mecanics.
with 100 hours im surprised you havent already burnt out, the game is so repetetive and boring to play with basically the same thing happening every game mainly due to forcing people to play classes and little customisation and therefore nothing new really happening compared to a mod such as mercs where everyone is free to do whatever and every round is different or even a game like mordhau which can be unpredictable and actually requires some concentration to be good as bannerlord is literally made for new players who dont know what to do
We are but NW has some strange charm too it.a moderated Citroen Saxo is still a Citroen Saxo.
Bannerlord is pretty awful and development hasn't changed anything major for months which is unbelievably slow for an "Early access" game
Well I don't really agree, I've got a bit less than 100hrs of MP on bannerlord at this point and it's defintely getting there. I fail to see where the game is awful, because hitboxes are clearer than ever, there are close to no pokes, and feints are easier to dodge/block as well as more natural than on native. Also, multiplayer skirms are getting more and more interesting as the competitive community is starting to develop.
I would agree on a few 2h nerfs but other than that, objectively, it's defo improving. You may not like it, that's up to you but I wouldn't call the game awful.
I also personally don't believe nw players should ask for a 'retextured nw'. NW is a DLC for Warband, S&M will be a MOD for a game that's come out 10 years after. Trying to duplicate the exact same mecanics would be a huge step back, and one that isn't even sure of being compatible with the new game's mecanics.
with 100 hours im surprised you havent already burnt out, the game is so repetetive and boring to play with basically the same thing happening every game mainly due to forcing people to play classes and little customisation and therefore nothing new really happening compared to a mod such as mercs where everyone is free to do whatever and every round is different or even a game like mordhau which can be unpredictable and actually requires some concentration to be good as bannerlord is literally made for new players who dont know what to do
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aren't we doing the same in NW?
Powder and shot sounds better than sword and musketCan we rename it to Bonaparte's Dawn Sword & Musket so we can play BDSM with friendsI'm shocked this was missed during early development ::) in all honesty though they should have said the name of their mod aloud before going with it haha - not too late to change it!!
What is your suggestion?
a moderated Citroen Saxo is still a Citroen Saxo.there are close to no pokes, and feints are easier to dodge/block
Bannerlord is pretty awful and development hasn't changed anything major for months which is unbelievably slow for an "Early access" game
just my 2 cents but I personally like having pokes, glances, manipulatable hitboxes and all in NW- Makes the melee much more unpredictable and more complex than any other melee system I've ever played. I don't want to have a guaranteed hit that does damage every time because fuck that I want some unpredictability, something new and interesting. I don't want a melee system I can master in a short timeframe as a new player- I want to work for it, by practicing feinting until I'm good at it. By learning how to manipulate hitboxes to force pokes. By learning how to best use the unpredictability. I fail to see how taking out some of the features which made NW melee far more interesting (If enraging at times) is beneficial to the game.
The unreliability and unpredictability allows for great replayability
ahh I fucked up the quoting on that but yeah point standsa moderated Citroen Saxo is still a Citroen Saxo.there are close to no pokes, and feints are easier to dodge/block
Bannerlord is pretty awful and development hasn't changed anything major for months which is unbelievably slow for an "Early access" game
just my 2 cents but I personally like having pokes, glances, manipulatable hitboxes and all in NW- Makes the melee much more unpredictable and more complex than any other melee system I've ever played. I don't want to have a guaranteed hit that does damage every time because fuck that I want some unpredictability, something new and interesting. I don't want a melee system I can master in a short timeframe as a new player- I want to work for it, by practicing feinting until I'm good at it. By learning how to manipulate hitboxes to force pokes. By learning how to best use the unpredictability. I fail to see how taking out some of the features which made NW melee far more interesting (If enraging at times) is beneficial to the game.
The unreliability and unpredictability allows for great replayability
Guys I'm starting to think we might be stuck with NW foreverhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgtv8PWdeIQ
You're still on FSE so you are part of 'we'!!Guys I'm starting to think we might be stuck with NW foreverhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgtv8PWdeIQ
the game is so repetetive and boring to play with basically the same thing happening every game mainly due to forcing people to play classes and little customisation and therefore nothing new really happening compared to a mod such as mercs where everyone is free to do whatever and every round is different or even a game like mordhau which can be unpredictable and actually requires some concentration to be good as bannerlord is literally made for new players who dont know what to do
This is so much not true! Like every regiment do have their own skin pack or other modifications for the game. You can change uniforms to whatever you want. And it's possible without having to know much. You want to edit your sounds go for it. It has so unlimited possibilities for customisation.
Wdym, as octanidas said you're playing NW, where customisation is absolutely non-existent.
That's a fair point, at the end of the day it all comes down to personnal preference in that regard. My point was that the game isn't as terrible as pictured by what seems to be most of the nw community. It's just different and newYeah it's different and new, but you have to admit that Bannerlord just failed.
You may leave NW, but NW doesn't leave youGuys I'm starting to think we might be stuck with NW foreverhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgtv8PWdeIQ
If changing some skins and sounds are your idea for "unlimited customisation", then unfortunately you are too far gone. We would never be able to convince you otherwise even if S&M/Bannerlord does well and has positive reviews.This is so much not true! Like every regiment do have their own skin pack or other modifications for the game. You can change uniforms to whatever you want. And it's possible without having to know much. You want to edit your sounds go for it. It has so unlimited possibilities for customisation.
Wdym, as octanidas said you're playing NW, where customisation is absolutely non-existent.
Back on that topic Jailbreak has working loot boxes and custom animations and basically fully custom gamemodes just for there server. So yeah NW is really customizable.If changing some skins and sounds are your idea for "unlimited customisation", then unfortunately you are too far gone. We would never be able to convince you otherwise even if S&M/Bannerlord does well and has positive reviews.This is so much not true! Like every regiment do have their own skin pack or other modifications for the game. You can change uniforms to whatever you want. And it's possible without having to know much. You want to edit your sounds go for it. It has so unlimited possibilities for customisation.
Wdym, as octanidas said you're playing NW, where customisation is absolutely non-existent.
Nobody can deny that Taleworlds really didn't think the release through fully with missing game modes and Multiplayer being a side thought. But I for one am pretty positive.
EDIT: Spelling.
I know this, I was reffering to what he said ;)Back on that topic Jailbreak has working loot boxes and custom animations and basically fully custom gamemodes just for there server. So yeah NW is really customizable.If changing some skins and sounds are your idea for "unlimited customisation", then unfortunately you are too far gone. We would never be able to convince you otherwise even if S&M/Bannerlord does well and has positive reviews.This is so much not true! Like every regiment do have their own skin pack or other modifications for the game. You can change uniforms to whatever you want. And it's possible without having to know much. You want to edit your sounds go for it. It has so unlimited possibilities for customisation.
Wdym, as octanidas said you're playing NW, where customisation is absolutely non-existent.
Nobody can deny that Taleworlds really didn't think the release through fully with missing game modes and Multiplayer being a side thought. But I for one am pretty positive.
EDIT: Spelling.
I know this, I was reffering to what he said ;)
https://discord.gg/nWkWsqZsE4I know this, I was reffering to what he said ;)
do you have a website, discord or steam group?
Models look really simplistic, and pretty meh ngl.Money-grabbing? It's a mod not a DLC...........
Their ambitions seem to be out of this world, and more on the money grabbing side than giving the community a good mod that will represent what the NW community has in warband.
I have very little hope in this project lmao
(Not to mention bannerlord is shit anyways)
Models look really simplistic, and pretty meh ngl.Money-grabbing? It's a mod not a DLC...........
Their ambitions seem to be out of this world, and more on the money grabbing side than giving the community a good mod that will represent what the NW community has in warband.
I have very little hope in this project lmao
(Not to mention bannerlord is shit anyways)
Feels like you haven't read the majority of the posts just in the last few pages so you yourself might be deluded I'm afraid.Models look really simplistic, and pretty meh ngl.Money-grabbing? It's a mod not a DLC...........
Their ambitions seem to be out of this world, and more on the money grabbing side than giving the community a good mod that will represent what the NW community has in warband.
I have very little hope in this project lmao
(Not to mention bannerlord is shit anyways)
With the crap spouted in that "trailer" which is basically just showing off really bad models and nothing else. It seems more like it's being rushed with crazy ideas into hoping it becomes a "DLC" because holy shit. xD
Idk which is more humiliating and delusional. The fact that the models are considered good, or the fact that you guys wanna add all that useless SP stuff etc.
Either way, aslong as bannerlord is this shit, no matter how good the animations models textures and ideas are. The mod will be garbage, cause theres no patching up how shit bannerlord is.
Let's just migrate to BCOF or stick to NW cause breh ???
Feels like you haven't read the majority of the posts just in the last few pages so you yourself might be deluded I'm afraid.Models look really simplistic, and pretty meh ngl.Money-grabbing? It's a mod not a DLC...........
Their ambitions seem to be out of this world, and more on the money grabbing side than giving the community a good mod that will represent what the NW community has in warband.
I have very little hope in this project lmao
(Not to mention bannerlord is shit anyways)
With the crap spouted in that "trailer" which is basically just showing off really bad models and nothing else. It seems more like it's being rushed with crazy ideas into hoping it becomes a "DLC" because holy shit. xD
Idk which is more humiliating and delusional. The fact that the models are considered good, or the fact that you guys wanna add all that useless SP stuff etc.
Either way, aslong as bannerlord is this shit, no matter how good the animations models textures and ideas are. The mod will be garbage, cause theres no patching up how shit bannerlord is.
Let's just migrate to BCOF or stick to NW cause breh ???
The other half prefers rather to insult the game by saying it's rubbish and by not giving any constructive opinion on it.
@DragonKing people are gonna hate on bannerlord because of the fact that it has been such a long time that they have developed the game just for it to somehow not be done or close to being a finished product. The thing that is hurting bannerlord is that there isn’t any private servers to play on. I didn’t want to buy the game simply because of what the beta testers were telling me how the game wasn’t that good before it was released. Bannerlord is gonna continue to be dead (At least for the NA side) until they can get private servers on there.
I dont get this early access shit. If you release a game to the general public I'm gonna judge that game like any other game, regardless of the "early access" stamp you've put on it. Bannerlord was a direct step down in many ways from Warband (I wrote a massive steam review about it, so don't tell me I am just hating without giving constructive criticism). This gave loads of people a shitty first impression, which resulted in many of them dropping the game within the first month. Getting those people back to your game when their first impression was extremely negative is very difficult. Which is why I fear that Bannerlord (or any mod for it) won't be able to attract the amount of players that we were hoping it would. The biggest deal for most people were the missing private servers, so maybe that would give Bannerlord a big impulse of players for a while. But if the rest of the game is still mediocre by that point, then Bannerlord won't be able to retain those players. Unless some youtuber or streamer comes around and makes it immensely popular, I fear that Bannerlord will never reach the consistent player base that Warband once had.this
I dont get this early access shit. If you release a game to the general public I'm gonna judge that game like any other game, regardless of the "early access" stamp you've put on it. Bannerlord was a direct step down in many ways from Warband (I wrote a massive steam review about it, so don't tell me I am just hating without giving constructive criticism). This gave loads of people a shitty first impression, which resulted in many of them dropping the game within the first month. Getting those people back to your game when their first impression was extremely negative is very difficult. Which is why I fear that Bannerlord (or any mod for it) won't be able to attract the amount of players that we were hoping it would. The biggest deal for most people were the missing private servers, so maybe that would give Bannerlord a big impulse of players for a while. But if the rest of the game is still mediocre by that point, then Bannerlord won't be able to retain those players. Unless some youtuber or streamer comes around and makes it immensely popular, I fear that Bannerlord will never reach the consistent player base that Warband once had.
Well as I said in my review, if they fix it I'll change my review. I don't necessarily have a hate boner for Bannerlord, I just fear that the community will be small and all this waiting will have been for nothing. If Bannerlord becomes good I have no problem in switching over to it, I just fear that Bannerlord has fucked itself in the eyes of many potential players. Games very rarely grow over time/past their initial hype nowadays. Unless youtubers and streamers start giving it attention seemingly out of nowhere (like among us), they die a slow death.
As I have said in my previous posts on this thread, that "trailer" is more to just show that the mod is actually being worked on as a lot of people were skeptical. Although in my opinion (which I have said many times) I disagreed with posting anything yet until there was something worth showing rather than this. Obviously you guys don't have access to everything on the discord but there are a lot of teams which have already put a lot of work in over these last 8 or so weeks.Models look really simplistic, and pretty meh ngl.Money-grabbing? It's a mod not a DLC...........
Their ambitions seem to be out of this world, and more on the money grabbing side than giving the community a good mod that will represent what the NW community has in warband.
I have very little hope in this project lmao
(Not to mention bannerlord is shit anyways)
With the crap spouted in that "trailer" which is basically just showing off really bad models and nothing else. It seems more like it's being rushed with crazy ideas into hoping it becomes a "DLC" because holy shit. xD
Idk which is more humiliating and delusional. The fact that the models are considered good, or the fact that you guys wanna add all that useless SP stuff etc.
Either way, aslong as bannerlord is this shit, no matter how good the animations models textures and ideas are. The mod will be garbage, cause theres no patching up how shit bannerlord is.
Let's just migrate to BCOF or stick to NW cause breh ???
Let's just migrate to BCOFor stick to NW cause breh???I seriously hope you are joking. If not you are deluded beyong saving.
Probably a stupid idea but what if S&M had 2 different melee modes, one mode for casuals with a more simpler and maybe slower feel and another for competitive, one that involves some more complex mechanics (fast-paced, stuns, glances, momentum, and diverse hitboxes. This way you please everyone, casuals don't have to invest as many hours to get "good" and competitive players seeking a challenge can learn these mechanics. Although having just one base melee system would be a lot simpler and easier for the devs but just an idea to help solve what holdfast and bannerlord struggle with. I also understand that melee mechanics in bannerlord is hard coded so you probably can't even edit them but in NW with the script enhancer I think you can edit glances etc.
Warband Script Enhancer (https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?threads/wb-warband-script-enhancer-v4-7-7-for-1-174.324890/)
feel free to voice your opinion I'm curious if this really is a stupid idea or not.
Edit i still think Power and Shot is a better nameThis name came out of left field for me, I just logged onto discord and there it was ;D Granted I wasn't actually CD then though.