Historical Military Blunders

[Slick]

We didn't come out any worse after the conflict

58,000 dead isn't worse off?

I feel that "oh, we don't feel like defending the southern vietnamese anymore, oh and yeah 58,000 confirmed dead." is a total blunder

American and co. total dead: 430,538–714,564
Communist and co. total dead 451,462-1,166,462

Not a waste.

Hmm... Yeah, that looks like a pretty big waste to me

[Nipplestockings]

We didn't come out any worse after the conflict

58,000 dead isn't worse off?

I feel that "oh, we don't feel like defending the southern vietnamese anymore, oh and yeah 58,000 confirmed dead." is a total blunder

American and co. total dead: 430,538–714,564
Communist and co. total dead 451,462-1,166,462

Not a waste.

Hmm... Yeah, that looks like a pretty big waste to me

Not anymore than any other wars. Stop being angsty.

[GoldenEagle]

We didn't come out any worse after the conflict

58,000 dead isn't worse off?

I feel that "oh, we don't feel like defending the southern vietnamese anymore, oh and yeah 58,000 confirmed dead." is a total blunder

American and co. total dead: 430,538–714,564
Communist and co. total dead 451,462-1,166,462

Not a waste.

Hmm... Yeah, that looks like a pretty big waste to me

Not anymore than any other wars. Stop being angsty.

Maybe all wars are big waste 

[Nipplestockings]

We didn't come out any worse after the conflict

58,000 dead isn't worse off?

I feel that "oh, we don't feel like defending the southern vietnamese anymore, oh and yeah 58,000 confirmed dead." is a total blunder

American and co. total dead: 430,538–714,564
Communist and co. total dead 451,462-1,166,462

Not a waste.

Hmm... Yeah, that looks like a pretty big waste to me

Not anymore than any other wars. Stop being angsty.

Maybe all wars are big waste 

That was my point. Modern day teenagers like to think that they live in a special time where wars now are somehow different than they've been for thousands of years.

[Landrik]

Battle of Halbe (South of Berlin)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Halbe

[Duuring]

We didn't come out any worse after the conflict

58,000 dead isn't worse off?

I feel that "oh, we don't feel like defending the southern vietnamese anymore, oh and yeah 58,000 confirmed dead." is a total blunder

American and co. total dead: 430,538–714,564
Communist and co. total dead 451,462-1,166,462

Not a waste.

Hmm... Yeah, that looks like a pretty big waste to me

Not anymore than any other wars. Stop being angsty.

Maybe all wars are big waste 

That was my point. Modern day teenagers like to think that they live in a special time where wars now are somehow different than they've been for thousands of years.

The wars fought today ARE different. Are do we still not fire on the enemy after dinner call, do not spread propaganda about eachother, do only a few men die of battle in a year?

[Nipplestockings]

Huh?

[Duuring]

The general sense of warfare has changed a lot during the last hundreds of years. In 1800s, firing on sentries was simply against the rules if there was no attack behind it.

Today, it's ENGAGE THE ENEMY!!!111

[Nipplestockings]

Tell me, in the 1800's, when the British fought the Indians, or the Americans fought the Native Americans, did they go by those "rules" for warfare? Nope. Same goes for today. There haven't been many conventional wars between major western powers lately, so we can't judge accurately, but I'd say the UN, the international laws, and the sanctions against powers who commit human rights abuses are pretty similar. The United States is at war with terrorists in Afghanistan, and France is at war with terrorists is Mali. It's the same kind of war that happened in the 1800's when the British fought Indian rebels.

[Bluehawk]

Whites shot at fellow white sentries and officers all the time. Stop reading your mother's romance novels.

[Duuring]

I'm sorry? Are we going to have a discussion of THAT kind?

[Slick]

Not anymore than any other wars. Stop being angsty.

So, every other war that has ever been fought was just as much a waste as the Vietnam war? Okay lol

[KillerMongoose]

How about we get back on topic?

[Duuring]

Right, you guys want to know a military blunder? The Convention of Alkmaar.

Yeah, We got a combined army of Russians and Brits by the balls...and we let them go peacefully, with all their loot. WHY?

[Tali]

Right, you guys want to know a military blunder? The Convention of Alkmaar.

Yeah, We got a combined army of Russians and Brits by the balls...and we let them go peacefully, with all their loot. WHY?

Perhaps the french republic wanted to improve relations with the UK, whom was hell-bent on destroying them and reinstating monarchy.

There's more to war politics then to kill the enemy, y'know.