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Are the "Oldest Pyramids of the world" that were found in Crimea, the real reason for the War?

Yes! Putin only took Crimea because of the alien pyramids.
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Yes! I don't believe that the pyramids were made by aliens, but I do believe that Russia took Crimea because of the incredible cultural treasures hidden inside them.
8 (38.1%)

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Offline Dekkers

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Re: Ukraine
« Reply #2715 on: September 20, 2014, 01:50:46 pm »
So how's the situation in Ukraine atm?
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Re: Ukraine
« Reply #2716 on: September 20, 2014, 02:06:08 pm »
Its still a clusterfuck, there are National Socialists on either side of this conflict.
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Re: Ukraine
« Reply #2717 on: September 20, 2014, 02:46:37 pm »
Quote from: Augy on September 20, 2014, 02:06:08 pm
Its still a clusterfuck, there are National Socialists on either side of this conflict.

Thank you for this extremely useful and refreshing summary of the latest event in Ukraine.
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Re: Ukraine
« Reply #2718 on: September 20, 2014, 03:45:37 pm »
Contradiction.

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Quote from: Augy on September 20, 2014, 02:06:08 pm
Its still a clusterfuck, there are National Socialists on either side of this conflict.
LOL. Please link to National Socialists that are Pro Russian.
I didn't even know that was possible.
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Re: Ukraine
« Reply #2719 on: September 20, 2014, 03:56:21 pm »
Quote from: MarshalKim on September 20, 2014, 03:45:37 pm
Contradiction.

Sports Ukrainian flag in support of the pro maidan protests. Due to misguided beliefs of freedom and independence.

Doesn't support the ultimate freedom of the FSE people to do as they like with their threads.

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Re: Ukraine
« Reply #2720 on: September 20, 2014, 04:53:37 pm »
Putin and the Pro Russians have been rightfully talking about the Fascist presense in the new Ukrainian government, but it is a very hypocritical position, as Putin gladly resorts to Russian ethno-nationalism to strenghten his own rule.

From what I've seen, Ultra-nationalist and down right neo-nazi rhetoric are also very present in the pro-Russian side.

Meanwhile, Putin's authoritarian (but capitalist) government is trying to maintain, if not increase its sphere of influence and to do so, they are using anti-fascist rhetoric in a PR stunt.

Anti-Fascism used by the state as a PR tool is really a legacy from the USSR, and it is something that doesn't really mean anything anymore in the mainstream political circles there.

Fascism is not just a slur on right-wing endeavors, but the historical conditions in which fascism rose in the 20th century are once again converging. - and what makes the threat imminent is that it is a world phenomenon, not limited to just one regime or nation.
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Re: Ukraine
« Reply #2721 on: September 20, 2014, 05:01:35 pm »
Which fascist presence exactly are we talking about? Svoboda, while having a shady past and undoubtedly a right-wing party, is still in favor of democracy and in no way wants a totalitarian state, which is pretty much a requirement of fascism. Maybe they once did, but no longer. Besides, they have been in the parliament for many years and it's ludicrous to suggest that without the Maidan-revolution they wouldn't hold the same position they hold now.  I agree with about 0% of their program, but apparently 10.44% of the Ukrainians shared their ideas.

What brought forward the new Ukrainian government was not the rise of right-wing parties within the parliament, but the fall of the Party of Regions as many of its parliamentary members resigned their membership and went independent. Even Svoboda lost two seats.
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Re: Ukraine
« Reply #2722 on: September 20, 2014, 05:26:24 pm »
It is not Russias/Putins job to take out fascists in the Ukrainian government!
What kind of bullshit statement is that? Putin has no right whatsoever to change the Ukrainian government. If the people in Ukraine support fascism, it is their choice. They are free to do so. It is none of Putins concerns.
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Re: Ukraine
« Reply #2723 on: September 20, 2014, 05:28:50 pm »
I'd agree with you Olaf, but I'm in the "Only good Nazi is a dead one" boat.

On another note, anyone see the video of the Ukrainian minister of the Exterior getting thrown into a trashcan in Kiev?
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Re: Ukraine
« Reply #2724 on: September 20, 2014, 05:34:06 pm »
Olafson, Putin keeps implying that the current Ukrainian government got into power illegally and/or with a coup so that it doesn't represent its people. You won't find any Russian media saying how Svoboda actually got voted into the parliament.
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Re: Ukraine
« Reply #2725 on: September 20, 2014, 10:01:41 pm »
I am just at a point of entirely skipping Augy's posts.
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Re: Ukraine
« Reply #2726 on: September 20, 2014, 10:43:00 pm »
Quote from: Riddlez on September 20, 2014, 10:01:41 pm
I am just at a point of entirely skipping Augy's posts.

Done that a while ago. They're all the same anyway.
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Re: Ukraine
« Reply #2727 on: September 20, 2014, 11:42:53 pm »
Quote from: Duuring on September 20, 2014, 05:34:06 pm
Olafson, Putin keeps implying that the current Ukrainian government got into power illegally and/or with a coup so that it doesn't represent its people. You won't find any Russian media saying how Svoboda actually got voted into the parliament.


Even then its none of his concern. The Ukrainian people can sort that out them self.
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Re: Ukraine
« Reply #2728 on: September 21, 2014, 12:19:04 am »
Putin's logic: They did bad shit, so we can do bad shit without our shit being bad.
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Re: Ukraine
« Reply #2729 on: September 21, 2014, 12:20:01 am »
Quote from: Duuring on September 21, 2014, 12:19:04 am
Putin's logic: They did bad shit, so we can do bad shit without our shit being bad.
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