Ukraine

[EliasMartinW]

Turin yes there are right winged armed groups in Ukraine but neither the EU or US have supported them.
Not even the current governement supports them. I somewhere found a video (let me see if I find it again) where the leader of the right sector is claiming to kill the new PM because he got a price on his head for crimes.

That is not true. The right wing armed groups are the ones in power, as they are elements of svoboda and the fascist party.

Also how the fuck can anyone support the wermacht? It's disgusting that someone would have a wermacht soldier as a profile pic.

[McEwan]

This is why I hate politics.

Take a break. I don't want to see this kind of argument here again.

[Vincenzo]

Aaand unlocked again.

EliasMartinW, I would advise you to look into the facts before making such wild claims, none of the nationalistic parties are represented in the current parliament.


In any case, you have nationalistic parties and people in every country, for instance in Germany you have the NPD, in Netherlands the Wilders party... It doesn't mean the country is run by fascistic nationalists. Especially not in Ukraine right now.


But lets drop that discussion and move to the latest news.

[Duuring]

(Trust me, this is on-topic)

The reason you see extremists in the news a lot when stuff happens, is namely because of two reasons. 1. Reporters try to find them. Why? Because it gives a good show. And 2. Extremists are extreme. They will be the first to take the streets and they'll be the first to get in fights.

[EliasMartinW]

Aaand unlocked again.

EliasMartinW, I would advise you to look into the facts before making such wild claims, none of the nationalistic parties are represented in the current parliament.


In any case, you have nationalistic parties and people in every country, for instance in Germany you have the NPD, in Netherlands the Wilders party... It doesn't mean the country is run by fascistic nationalists. Especially not in Ukraine right now.


But lets drop that discussion and move to the latest news.

Childish claim? Read something not from CNN.

Also the reason why he locked the thread was because Archduke Sven wrote a very mean comment to me which he or someone then deleted.

[Duuring]

You're really full of yourself, aren't you, mate?

[EliasMartinW]

[Nipplestockings]

Aaand unlocked again.

EliasMartinW, I would advise you to look into the facts before making such wild claims, none of the nationalistic parties are represented in the current parliament.


In any case, you have nationalistic parties and people in every country, for instance in Germany you have the NPD, in Netherlands the Wilders party... It doesn't mean the country is run by fascistic nationalists. Especially not in Ukraine right now.


But lets drop that discussion and move to the latest news.

Childish claim? Read something not from CNN.

Also the reason why he locked the thread was because Archduke Sven wrote a very mean comment to me which he or someone then deleted.

My god, that may be the most childish response I've ever seen. If you actually believe this you're going to be continually surprised when you get threads locked and you get warned when it was "other people's faults". He was on one side of the argument - you were on the other. Both parties were involved equally. Learn to take responsibility for your actions; it'll do well for you.

[TORN]

Says a guy with an anime character based on imperialist-period german.

But anyway, while I suggest not getting all your claims and idea's from Russia Today. The Right Sector is bad and the governement and parliament know that. They won't ever be in power.

[EliasMartinW]

Says a guy with an anime character based on imperialist-period german.

But anyway, while I suggest not getting all your claims and idea's from Russia Today. The Right Sector is bad and the governement and parliament know that. They won't ever be in power.

But they do, since the Ultra right wing had almost 10 % in the 2010 election, and prob a lot more now. (Svoboda)
And there is a lot more of ultra right wing parties.

The party of regions, which had 49 % is pretty much non-exsistant. And the communist party is pretty much gone since their HQ has been raided and taken over by Nazi thugs.

So that leaves us with the Svoboda, fascist party and other petty right wing groups.

[Duuring]

Your logic is appalling and I feel no need to even counter your statements.

[EliasMartinW]

Eummm ok... What i am saying is that the current regime is made up of the Ultra right wing, and they are using militas for security, and these militas are nazis.

The governement is the right sector, and they are turning ukraine into a military state.

[Duuring]

You're insane.

[Diplex]

He is no different on the Scandinavian forums. Let him love his Russia, harm is done to whom harm embraces.

[EliasMartinW]

Yes, im insane because i don't support an undemocratic government.