Ukraine

[Turin Turambar]

I found that funny because you are definitely concerned that the USgov had nothing to do with the coup.

[ClearlyInvsible]

I don't play guessing games, I believe in stuff if I see proof of it. From what I've seen, the US didn't have a guiding hand either.

[StevenChilton]

Lol, the US 'didn't have a guiding hand'.

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/22758-meet-the-americans-who-put-together-the-coup-in-kiev
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/22940-focus-part-ii-meet-the-americans-who-put-together-the-coup-in-kiev

This sums it up pretty well. TL;DR basically the US was heavily involved in financing and organizing the rebels and their activities from day 1, as well as providing diplomatic support aimed at ousting Yanukovych. As for the EU, well they pumped $500 million into 'civil society' projects in Ukraine from 2007-2013. After the putsch of 2014, they provided the rebel government with loans of almost 11 billion Euros, as well as military equipment and advice to help defeat the rebels in the East.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/30/russia-ukraine-war-kiev-conflict

The US has overthrown loads of foreign governments in the last 50 years, often with underhand means. It's really not that much of a stretch to think they had a hand in this one too, especially as the evidence and the motive is all there.

[Turin Turambar]

The US has overthrown loads of foreign governments in the last 50 years, often with underhand means.

That's a lie!

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[Augy]

There's no doubt it's a proxy war. The United States and the European Union backing the protestors (mainly Pravy sektor), and the Russians pressuring the Ukrainian government.

It's a mess and most people make the mistake of supporting a side, while both sides are fundamentally authoritarian.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/02/08/ukra-f08.html

[Nipplestockings]

I think most people just don't care anymore.

[Turin Turambar]

The fuck has the conflict in Ukraine to do with authoritarianism?

[MarshalKim]

[MaxLam]

Makhno.

[Duuring]

There's no doubt it's a proxy war. The United States and the European Union backing the protestors (mainly Pravy sektor), and the Russians pressuring the Ukrainian government.

It's a mess and most people make the mistake of supporting a side, while both sides are fundamentally authoritarian.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/02/08/ukra-f08.html

You are still saying the current Ukrainian government is fascist?

[MarshalKim]

There's no doubt it's a proxy war. The United States and the European Union backing the protestors (mainly Pravy sektor), and the Russians pressuring the Ukrainian government.

It's a mess and most people make the mistake of supporting a side, while both sides are fundamentally authoritarian.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/02/08/ukra-f08.html

I don't give a hoot, ZHG# Son. The Russian Federation is threatened by NATO forces. These reactionary actions are warranted in order to preserve the well being of their people and the integrity of their nation.

You are still saying the current Ukrainian government is fascist?

What if it was possible for authoritarianism to be in forms other then fascism?

[Duuring]

Just saying that that article refers to them as fascists. As well as authoritarians.

It's also from February 2014.

[Augy]

Ukrainian army and the Nazi death squads bombed Donetsk yesterday while the city was celebrating the international day of children and commemorating the kids Kyiv, NATO, IMF and EU have murdered during the civil war they have been waging against eastern Ukraine, as a result of the the US-orchestrated fascist coup of February 2014.

While children were playing in the center of the city and in the parks near by, bombs started to fall on the city again. These children spent months of their lives in terror, hunger and cold in basements trying to stay alive from the bombs of Kyiv.

Kyiv knew they would be celebrating and shelled on purpose, because Kyiv's policy is terror.
Bombs fell 2 km away from the place where thousands of children were playing. In the neighborhood hit by the bombs of Kyiv children were playing in a park when the shelling started. The park was overcrowded.
The terror inflicted on these children on their day was even more shocking as they had no where to hide.

Photos of the bombings here
https://donbass.media/2421-rezultaty-obstrela-gorlovki-so-storony-vsu-01-06-2015-chast-1/

Video of children playing in the center of the city.
https://www.facebook.com/100007424712072/videos/1608563549401120/?hc_location=ufi

Images from one of their plays.
https://www.facebook.com/1566752600205838/videos/vb.1566752600205838/1632129430334821/?type=2&theater

[KL4R1N0G4MPR0S]

are you just copy-pasting shit now?

[Augy]

are you just copy-pasting shit now?

Yes, its copypasted.  Doesnt make it illegitimate in the slightest.

Seems you're doing this,

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