33rd Public Siege Server [33rd_NW_Siege] - Soon..

[Robinhood]

Ok, first off you where temp banned...

After being trolled for four rounds.

Second, not once did I see you teamhit or teamkilled, you just wined about it non stop from the moment I joined the server.  You provided no information about what team you where on or anything.

I was being kicked and shot over and over again. It takes a long time to be tk'd, it was the team attacking that was the problem. One player in particular was shooting me then running away. Comes back half a min later shoots me then runs away. For 4 Rounds.

You were playing the game, you were not in spec at any point that i saw. You did not see it despite my repeated requests to look. You kept telling me to stop "whining" without dealing with the problem.

You then started arguing with half the server when they told you to be quiet.

I was defending myself from abuse. A couple of players took it upon themselves to tell me to "stop whining or leave" and were using nasty language.

Us admins let this go on for well over a round, about 20 minutes before we told you to be quiet.

You let me be trolled for about 20 minutes before giving me a "final warning" without any explanation offered as to why. You told me to "stop whining" and to shut up or leave way before that.

You then shot your own team mate and he died, there was no explanation that I could see in the chat, just the red text.

I explained it immediately, as the chat log will show if you look. I had also asked for help with the troll over and over prior to that.

I have seen you on the server before just being a big pain in the ass for everyone.

No. I am not. I have been playing this game since it was released and I enjoy it a lot. I do not troll. I am on here and the taleworlds site. Check my history.
Prove your claim. This is simply an attempt at character assassination, attacking the man to discredit my complaint.

Remember it was only a temp ban you can rejoin after 1 hour.

So I should just enjoy the abuse  and come back in an hour eh?

Firstly, I did not once notice while I was in-game with you (which was about 3 rounds) witness any teamkilling against you. Teamkilling in general is not punished if it's accidental (personally I don't punish for the 1st teamkill, I slay for the 2nd and a kick for a 3rd). If I'd see you be killed multiple times across the rounds I participated in, action would have been taken.

Secondly, you were the only player in the entire server who seemed to have a problem. We had another 33rd member checking you out on spectator for a round, and he didn't see anything worth reporting to us with.

Thirdly, it is also punishable to constantly spam in chat. As admins, no matter what you think of us, we will always check out complaints from players. If we are not able to clarify the player is truthful, we can't enforce any rules upon a potential offender.

And lastly, I have no idea why you tried to add me on steam. I have not requested you contact me to discuss any of this, as far as I'm concerned, there was nothing to enforce, so there's nothing to discuss. We can't take everybody's word for offenses, we have to see it happen.

Perhaps you are telling the truth and you were just unfortunate, but raging in the chat box on the server solves nothing.

I added you on steam to see if I could get some sense.
I was not raging. I was asking for assistance and being told to shut it. Incredibly frustrating.

First off, dat formatting...

Second, I was on defender, and did follow you when I was dead and saw nothing.  If you want to report something, report the player name and what they did don't just shout ADMIN IM BEING TEAMHIT, that doesn't help us admins with anything

I temp banned you for the teamkill, dasher will have to explain the final warning with you, that was nothing to do with me.

[Crayon]

If you wish to return to our servers in the future feel free and be assured that all of our admins are aware of the rules of our server and how to enforce them. On this occasion, I "admined" while playing, but most of the time I admin in spectator.

You must understand our position that if we do not see it, we cannot enforce it. It's extremely difficult to slay/kick somebody who shoots a team-mate without killing them and runs away, because you're rarely going to catch them in the act, and if it did happen on this occasion, I'm sorry to say you were just unlucky. We did have you spec'd for half a round by another member though, and nothing occurred. However, I understand your position so maybe you can understand ours too.

As I said before, essentially spamming in the chat box doesn't solve anything, and from our perspective, it doesn't look good.

That is fair enough.

I wasn't asking for anything, just an explanation and to clear up what had been happening.

I was not trying to spam the chat but another player was being extremely derogatory at me, while I was still being team attacked and while I was being given a "final warning" into the bargain.

It is immensely irritating to be trolled for so long.

First off, dat formatting...

Second, I was on defender, and did follow you when I was dead and saw nothing.  If you want to report something, report the player name and what they did don't just shout ADMIN IM BEING TEAMHIT, that doesn't help us admins with anything
I temp banned you for the teamkill, dasher will have to explain the final warning with you, that was nothing to do with me.

I did give names at the start but the main troll was switching them.

Also, I've fixed the formatting on the original post.

[Robinhood]

If you wish to return to our servers in the future feel free and be assured that all of our admins are aware of the rules of our server and how to enforce them. On this occasion, I "admined" while playing, but most of the time I admin in spectator.

You must understand our position that if we do not see it, we cannot enforce it. It's extremely difficult to slay/kick somebody who shoots a team-mate without killing them and runs away, because you're rarely going to catch them in the act, and if it did happen on this occasion, I'm sorry to say you were just unlucky. We did have you spec'd for half a round by another member though, and nothing occurred. However, I understand your position so maybe you can understand ours too.

As I said before, essentially spamming in the chat box doesn't solve anything, and from our perspective, it doesn't look good.

That is fair enough.

I wasn't asking for anything, just an explanation and to clear up what had been happening.

I was not trying to spam the chat but another player was being extremely derogatory at me, while I was still being team attacked and while I was being given a "final warning" into the bargain.

It is immensely irritating to be trolled for so long.

Also, I've fixed the formatting on the original post.

Yes, we probably should have done something about the other players getting on you, but with a server that big we can't get everyone

[Hullzangel]

I can only suggest using our servers at a different time. Throughout the day and evening we have several admins on siege, usually at least one in spectator to sort out issues like yours.

As Robin suggested, the best thing you can do from your end is to take note of the players name, and write once in the chat box what the player's name is and their offense. Any admin who is on and spectating will then be able to find that offending player and see if they are repeating their alleged offense.

[Crayon]

I can only suggest using our servers at a different time. Throughout the day and evening we have several admins on siege, usually at least one in spectator to sort out issues like yours.

As Robin suggested, the best thing you can do from your end is to take note of the players name, and write once in the chat box what the player's name is and their offense. Any admin who is on and spectating will then be able to find that offending player and see if they are repeating their alleged offense.

I play on 33rd a lot, usually at night. Great server but does attract the trolls. I don't usually get sucked into trollathons and complaints but goddamn they were persistent, I was targeted for whatever reason.

It's only a game but it doesn't stop it being extremely annoying when it's ruined by trolls.
Anyway, its all done now and I've said here what I wanted to.

Thanks for the replies.

[Hullzangel]

Thanks for taking the time to come onto our forum and discuss this with us, and we hope you continue to use our siege server.

[RAJKUMAR]

Posted all of my nicknames on page 95...please, admins, help me

[Lowlander]

Name under which you were banned: 9teLeib_Kpt_Low
Have you checked if you can join the server in the next hour (to see if it wasn't a 1 hour ban)?: Yes
What was happening when you got banned: Unknown
Time and date: Unknown
Timezone: GMT+0?
User Identification Number (NOT YOUR CD KEY!): Unknown

[Dasher54]

Ok, first off you where temp banned...

After being trolled for four rounds.

Second, not once did I see you teamhit or teamkilled, you just wined about it non stop from the moment I joined the server.  You provided no information about what team you where on or anything.

I was being kicked and shot over and over again. It takes a long time to be tk'd, it was the team attacking that was the problem. One player in particular was shooting me then running away. Comes back half a min later shoots me then runs away. For 4 Rounds.

You were playing the game, you were not in spec at any point that i saw. You did not see it despite my repeated requests to look. You kept telling me to stop "whining" without dealing with the problem.

You then started arguing with half the server when they told you to be quiet.

I was defending myself from abuse. A couple of players took it upon themselves to tell me to "stop whining or leave" and were using nasty language.

Us admins let this go on for well over a round, about 20 minutes before we told you to be quiet.

You let me be trolled for about 20 minutes before giving me a "final warning" without any explanation offered as to why. You told me to "stop whining" and to shut up or leave way before that.

You then shot your own team mate and he died, there was no explanation that I could see in the chat, just the red text.

I explained it immediately, as the chat log will show if you look. I had also asked for help with the troll over and over prior to that.

I have seen you on the server before just being a big pain in the ass for everyone.

No. I am not. I have been playing this game since it was released and I enjoy it a lot. I do not troll. I am on here and the taleworlds site. Check my history.
Prove your claim. This is simply an attempt at character assassination, attacking the man to discredit my complaint.

Remember it was only a temp ban you can rejoin after 1 hour.

So I should just enjoy the abuse  and come back in an hour eh?

Firstly, I did not once notice while I was in-game with you (which was about 3 rounds) witness any teamkilling against you. Teamkilling in general is not punished if it's accidental (personally I don't punish for the 1st teamkill, I slay for the 2nd and a kick for a 3rd). If I'd see you be killed multiple times across the rounds I participated in, action would have been taken.

Secondly, you were the only player in the entire server who seemed to have a problem. We had another 33rd member checking you out on spectator for a round, and he didn't see anything worth reporting to us with.

Thirdly, it is also punishable to constantly spam in chat. As admins, no matter what you think of us, we will always check out complaints from players. If we are not able to clarify the player is truthful, we can't enforce any rules upon a potential offender.

And lastly, I have no idea why you tried to add me on steam. I have not requested you contact me to discuss any of this, as far as I'm concerned, there was nothing to enforce, so there's nothing to discuss. We can't take everybody's word for offenses, we have to see it happen.

Perhaps you are telling the truth and you were just unfortunate, but raging in the chat box on the server solves nothing.

I added you on steam to see if I could get some sense.
I was not raging. I was asking for assistance and being told to shut it. Incredibly frustrating.

You were rude, trolling, insulting admins and didn't listen to us.

[Crayon]

You were rude, trolling, insulting admins and didn't listen to us.

Did you not read the conversation I had with the other admins? It was sorted out amicably.
This is done and dusted, explained from all sides, dealt with, over and yet still you felt the need to blunder in with that?

I deny all your accusations, I am calling you a liar and I don't care what you say from here on in. I'm amazed you're an admin.

[MrSt3fan]

The discussion has ended, lets keep it like that guys. No need to bring back *insert English saying for bringing something back from the past"

[RAJKUMAR]

MrSt3fan, can u reply about my ban, please? Really want to play again

[MrSt3fan]

MrSt3fan, can u reply about my ban, please? Really want to play again

I will have a look tomorrow when I am on my pc

[dudewhowasbanned]

Name under which you were banned: Awesome_Negro_From_Hell
Have you checked if you can join the server in the next hour (to see if it wasn't a 1 hour ban)?: Yes
What was happening when you got banned: I was playing as usual, didn't receive any warnings to change my name whatsoever and no single person told me a thing about my username. Everything was the same, then got permabanned.
Time and date: 24 January 2014
Timezone: GMT+1
User Identification Number (NOT YOUR CD KEY!): Unknown

[73rdSecretaryLucy]

Name under which you were banned: Awesome_Negro_From_Hell
Have you checked if you can join the server in the next hour (to see if it wasn't a 1 hour ban)?: Yes
What was happening when you got banned: I was playing as usual, didn't receive any warnings to change my name whatsoever and no single person told me a thing about my username. Everything was the same, then got permabanned.
Time and date: 24 January 2014
Timezone: GMT+1
User Identification Number (NOT YOUR CD KEY!): Unknown

Yeah I was on at the time, Tywin banned you without warning, Stefan knows about it and did say he was going to unban you an hour after but I guess he forgot. I'll message St3fan whenever he gets on so he can sort it out