NW will last too BCOF
NW will last too BCOF
Thread is for reasons not timeframes.
There are plenty of people who cover NW on Youtube but they just don't have a large following; E.G Jampad.Jampads vids are great! :D
What if Pewdiepie made a few videos on NW? It'd be a mixed blessing. We'd get a tonne of new members, but they'd be fanboys of the shithead that is "Pewds"I actually PM'd him like 4 months ago asking for him to make NW videos to help revive the game. Tragic that he didn't read it. Anyways, would be nice to see Diplex and Speirs make videos, they got me into the game and got me to join a regiment after seeing that. Perhaps FSE could buy a commercial to some massively viewed event like a sports match to get publicity ::)
What if Pewdiepie made a few videos on NW? It'd be a mixed blessing. We'd get a tonne of new members, but they'd be fanboys of the shithead that is "Pewds"
I actually PM'd him like 4 months ago asking for him to make NW videos to help revive the game. Tragic that he didn't read it. Anyways, would be nice to see Diplex and Speirs make videos, they got me into the game and got me to join a regiment after seeing that. Perhaps FSE could buy a commercial to some massively viewed event like a sports match to get publicity ::)
I don't think we want his fans here...What if Pewdiepie made a few videos on NW? It'd be a mixed blessing. We'd get a tonne of new members, but they'd be fanboys of the shithead that is "Pewds"I actually PM'd him like 4 months ago asking for him to make NW videos to help revive the game. Tragic that he didn't read it. Anyways, would be nice to see Diplex and Speirs make videos, they got me into the game and got me to join a regiment after seeing that. Perhaps FSE could buy a commercial to some massively viewed event like a sports match to get publicity ::)
It was always the way a game like this was going to go, the remaining community just needs to actually work together to keep the events going. Put old grudges aside (can you even remember why half of them started?), actually talk to each other when something upsets you/your regiment in an event and resolve it rather than throwing toys out of the pram and rage quitting.+1 for this, some of these hatreds date back to mm ffs. I think its time to stop it
Shut up, troll.It was always the way a game like this was going to go, the remaining community just needs to actually work together to keep the events going. Put old grudges aside (can you even remember why half of them started?), actually talk to each other when something upsets you/your regiment in an event and resolve it rather than throwing toys out of the pram and rage quitting.+1 for this, some of these hatreds date back to mm ffs. I think its time to stop it
I think the problem is that people are not as interested in older games about history that take patience and tactics and more interested in the next COD that is coming out.
If you ask me, NW's not worth being a DLC in my opinion. If I wasn't a 24/7 MM player, I wouldn't have paid for NW, it's not worth it.
1. This game has a high learning curve in my opinion. Yes, you might say that it's just a matter of clicking, but the combat system is easy to learn, hard to master. It turns new players off because they kind of get wrecked on all of the servers they go on, especially Official_NA_1 where you have to wait 5 minutes to respawn.
2. No advertisement. I found this game in November 2012 in the related videos for a Prince of Macedon Total War commentary. I had NEVER seen this game before that. Kind of says something. People need to learn about this game.
3. Players that have played forever are getting bored. We haven't had a single update since the sailor one, which had so much potential. THINK OF ALL THE THINGS THAT COULD BE PUT IN THROUGH AN UPDATE. More units, ships with cannons, better skins, new maps, more factions (Sweden, Ottomans, Spain, USA).
I really don't think the price has anything to do with it. It only costs like $10. Someone who has a $3000 gaming PC isn't going to shirk from buying this DLC because of its price.
What if instead of moving the boat and leaving behind the cannon... we move everything other than the boat and cannon and let them stay where they are! :oGenius....
What if instead of moving the boat and leaving behind the cannon... we move everything other than the boat and cannon and let them stay where they are! :oWhat if there are two boats?
What if instead of moving the boat and leaving behind the cannon... we move everything other than the boat and cannon and let them stay where they are! :o
Thank you! :)What if instead of moving the boat and leaving behind the cannon... we move everything other than the boat and cannon and let them stay where they are! :oGenius....
Server crashes.What if instead of moving the boat and leaving behind the cannon... we move everything other than the boat and cannon and let them stay where they are! :oWhat if there are two boats?
Excellent representation! ;)What if instead of moving the boat and leaving behind the cannon... we move everything other than the boat and cannon and let them stay where they are! :o
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67823144/boat.jpg)
It is not just the price of the DLC, but the fact that anyone browsing it would see the year of Warbands release and just assume nobody is still playing it.
Robbaz is my favourite. Replace Pewdiepie with him and the world will be saved!I love him. Actually that AngryJoe guy did a review of NW. He said he loved it.
Regiments
Well, the drama associated with the regiments has turned quite a few loyal players awayRegiments
Regiments are the community so you are technically saying the community is killing the community.
What exactly is the 'ideal reg?'*cough* the 4th *cough*
I used to think I would never get bored of this game, but even I'm really burnt out on it. If it wasn't for leading my regiment and certain aspects of the community I would have been gone a long time ago.Same here if my regiment ever disbanded I probably would leave the community or just make a regiment for once since its my last ditch attempt at the game.
Every few months "the dlc is dying" thread comes along. Even when...Nailed it!
NA1 still gets 100+ pop two years later. LBs are more popular than ever, competitive play is still healthy etc.
Game has a long way to go before it "dies".
I don't think I will be ever bored to play skirmisher :D
But I'm agree to say that a main problem today is to see the trolls invasion on the servers and so on in some regiments... It's now quite hard to play on public servers without being bothered by trollish kids.
Our main recruitement area is Youtube for sure, but you have to be a real history passionate to buy a 34 euros "old" game :-\
I disagree that it is not dying. You have only described NA but in the EU side everything appears to have dropped for about half a year.
Look at EU1 and also look at the Saturday linebattle.
Make PewDiePie or any other big youtuber play this and you will have like 1 mill new players (Mostly kids though :I)
Make PewDiePie or any other big youtuber play this and you will have like 1 mill new players (Mostly kids though :I)
assuming its not already
the reality is that plubic servers have less people than ever, and events are less too :(
There are more pubs in NA than EU, because it seems as though most of the EU community groupfights a lot more than NA.the reality is that plubic servers have less people than ever, and events are less too :(
Maybe on the EU side ironically, but that is far from the truth on the NA side.
91st were Lannisters a year ago, back when I led House Stark, they finished when most of them got banned for trolling a few months before disbanding on NW.In case you didn't know, Tav was unbanned on Nexus some months ago and the Lannisters are going strong again with nearly 200 members. The core is still the same people (ex 91st).
Just thought I would put that out there, the rest is great.
Stop mentioning the Saturday line battle skipper. There could be others or people dont like that event or day for an event. Stop basing your assumptions on one event dying or one server being unpopular. Plus the EU side has all of the other popular siege servers that split the officials servers population. Stop being a guy that says that the pond was brown so now the ocean is polluted and humans must escape to mars.
Sorry if I rubbed off wrong like I hate you but I just didn't like the fact that everyone claims NW is dying. However I must say that NEC lb was one of the most popular and one of the longest run lbs. now barely 120 come to the event. there are several others in fact. YET it does not show that the DLC is dead but rather that the big regiments disagreed with rules or admins and decided to set up separate line battles. Also some people don't find the big line battles their piece of pie and like 1v1's. Once again the popularity (or lack of) of a once popular server or event do not mean that the game is dying. Lastly I'd like to point out that despite the lack of popularity on the once "ohh so important" event or server many NA regiments found time to get their numbers from an once stellar attendance of 20 to unthought of attendances of 40 or even 60. The increasing numbers in regiments obviously don't mean that the game is dying.Stop mentioning the Saturday line battle skipper. There could be others or people dont like that event or day for an event. Stop basing your assumptions on one event dying or one server being unpopular. Plus the EU side has all of the other popular siege servers that split the officials servers population. Stop being a guy that says that the pond was brown so now the ocean is polluted and humans must escape to mars.
Sorry if I offended you or something, didn't mean to in any way I simply thought it was a valid point seeing as EU1 is the official server and the Saturday linebattle event use to be one of the most popular and is one of the longest running. There are other event examples I could use but seeing as most are not considered official events and have only run for at most a few months it would not be the same. It is a valid point, what was previously a huge part of the community representing EU is now degraded shows something, groupfighting has not necessarily grown and neither have siege servers, 84e server died and 33rd gets less players.
I didn't mean any offense with my examples. Sorry if you felt that way. Also, remember this is my view on things considering I am not marketing FSE or anything I am simply speculating for a friendly discussion on the forums. :)
Time itself. Every product has a life cycle and novelty can wear off pretty quickly. At the end of the day its a DLC rather than a stand alone game and there are strong limitations to work within when you don't have access to the engine source code not to mention a community that is heavily divided with each change making it difficult to see the forest from the trees.Agreed.
A lot of the community drama is why a lot of people are also still here.While I agree that a bit of friendly rivalry is helpful for any community, the current state is certainly not helping the game to stay alive. Many people are driven away, because some people can only get their fun by ruining the fun of others. Today's GF tournament was the best example, just good that the NiP guys got banned finally.
If there was no community drama, you would have the same amount of people left, but arguably to some people 'the nicer side'
This game is getting old and people get tired of games, that is what is killing it, time.
You can't stop it, you just have to find the next game.
I never said it was good, I said some people are still here for the drama.And exactly those people are not needed. Those who are only here for drama and trolling can piss off and play CoD.
There are so many people who are still here, or come back just to watch the next drama filled explosion.
The drama turns just as many people away as it does keep people here.
The drama is not why NW is dieing.
f**king right you are hadhod. Can't fully agree more with this statement.I never said it was good, I said some people are still here for the drama.And exactly those people are not needed. Those who are only here for drama and trolling can piss off and play CoD.
There are so many people who are still here, or come back just to watch the next drama filled explosion.
The drama turns just as many people away as it does keep people here.
The drama is not why NW is dieing.
Easy...The 77y stopped hosting our siege event shortly after I joined. I guess the community just got bored of siege :(. Also we sometimes have to swap one of our lines over in the 77y sunday linebattle due to a lack of line regiments signing up :(
I personally think because the game is so repulsive nothing is ever new. Siege use to be the sweetest game mode ever 84e and 33rd Siege use to be full all the time; when Napoleonic Wars came out as an official DLC and was on Steam. Later on people released it got boring and nothing to look forward to if you're not in a regiment. I personally remember when I wasn't in a regiment and over summer break I spent entire day from 8am to 5pm playing siege and that ruined the game for me I can't even play it today because its so boring and repulsive; Defense man the walls... attacks attack and get shot over and over again... Defenders get hit by a cannon ball...attackers breach in...sappers waste all the build points on planks so no defenses...But I'm happy people are making their own game modes like Jail Break and trying to get people back into the game.
Well speaking as an admin of the original server, I am not too happy that tons of people are copying our idea with jail break.
Well speaking as an admin of the original server, I am not too happy that tons of people are copying our idea with jail break.Well that's life. You have that in the real world. Phones, Mp3, tv's, and misc. People copy people thinking they can make it better.
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NW is not dieing, some parts of the game are getting slightly smaller community will become more pure.
The trolls are at the last stage of there road to leaving the game for good, but others will get bored and then turn in trolls.
Far as regiments dying maybe u should look at your leader.
I got around to working on the petition never the less, It is worth a try. Pass around to current and former regiment members and NW playing friends now. (http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/the-reduction-of-mouth-blade-napoleonic-wars)
There are plenty of people who cover NW on Youtube but they just don't have a large following; E.G Jampad.
signedI like dis idea, I doubt much money is still being made from Warband anyway and it would be nice to get a flow of new players.
recently, as in the cases of RO2 and Sniper Elite V2, there has been a free 24h period where you can get a copy of the game. most of my friends have downloaded it and are playing, if this happened for the M&B franchised that would be great
signedI like dis idea, I doubt much money is still being made from Warband anyway and it would be nice to get a flow of new players.
recently, as in the cases of RO2 and Sniper Elite V2, there has been a free 24h period where you can get a copy of the game. most of my friends have downloaded it and are playing, if this happened for the M&B franchised that would be great
Good read and well said :D Not sure what else they could implement with the melee however xD There needs to be a good module out, I only enjoy(ed) ACOK and PW and the guys who made PW have made persistent frontier and persistent age which is basically the same thing... NW overhaul is the way forwardSpoilerIt's not because of the price of the game, this is fact. Just look at the trend with people leaving. "The game is getting boring" "I'd rather focus my time on IRL and other worthwhile endeavors, and so I quit entirely". 2 of the prominent ones. Look at Warcraft 3. I believe it's over a decade old and still has a larger playerbase than NW. Ask yourself why that is and you find the answer to both your questions. Warcraft 3 has a) a more in depth gameplay system and b) a larger esports scene. NW has tried to achieve a strong standing in both these spots but has ultimately failed, and will not likely happen. The game simply isn't advanced enough to keep it fresh forever. Sure there is many techniques but they are not as numerous as most other long standing games. You think of the games that have managed to captivate their community for ages and most of what you will come up with are strategy games. Warcraft 3, DotA, Starcraft: Brood War. Why strategy games? Because the amount of stuff to learn and discover, whether it be unit strategies, army strategies, map strategies so on and so forth is nearly limitless. In NW you master 2 (could be debated 3 weapons) and you're pretty much set for the whole game, and these weapons aren't particularly hard to master either. Learn to efficiently use the musket and bayonet and you have essentially mastered the game (Sword optional adding up to 3 weapons). In a strategy game if you want to be the best, be a masterful player or whatever you hope to acheive, you will have to master every single unit of every single army, on every single map, in which every single map any one unit has a different use and strategy and then tack on the fact that 2 of the 3 of these games have custom map creators which are commonly used and sometimes create entirely new games with whole new sets of units and strategies to master (Warcraft 3 ---> DotA) and you realize why these games have managed to keep their fans hooked for over a decade. The sooner you realize NW is not that advanced and never will be, the sooner you can learn to accept the game will die, and it is probably going to be soon. Not even the mods can make it fresh because it can be argued that maps don't have that big of an effect on gameplay (Not anywhere near as mucha s previously mentioned games anyways) and most mods are a reskin not a total conversion, so there is not much change. Honestly the big secret to keeping the game alive is the modders, more specifically, we need an exceptionally talented and creative mod team to make something that makes the game different enough for you to believe it is an actual mod/ total conversion rather than a reskin. The game needs to not only look different, but feel different. Keep the same old combat that we've grown to love, but implement it in a way that is new and fresh. cRPG team has managed to do this for Native, as has the crew behind Vikingr. We've yet to come even close to this for NW however, I'd say the closest attempt was IE but they messed up on 2 areas 1) The talent was not there (Sorry but it's true, the servers barely handled most of the big things people were excited about like grenades and artillery, and it became unplayable with 100+ people), they had too much ambition and maybe should have tried something more tame for their first mod. and 2) It focused on gunplay rather than melee. Only a daft man believes gunplay is what keeps people hooked to NW for 2,000+ hours. No, huge 200 man organized linebattle events and in-depth melee keeps people hooked for thousands upon thousands of hours.
I'd like you guys to look at Native. We know Native has the larger playerbase at this point and time, now you have to realize why. The answer is simple, there is more weapons to learn and more combat styles to have. The large selection of weapons and weapon types along with the customizability makes the game much more in-depth than NW. Simple as that. Now look at it's most successful mods and see what they do. cRPG, Nord Invasion, PW. What do they have in common? They take the core strength of Warband and revolutionize it with a whole new system, implementing it into something new and fresh that veterans will be familiar with, but new to at the same time, and to newcomers will feel like a whole new game. cRPG adds a persistent role playing system to the game, making you work for your gear and stats, rather than having them handed to you at troop selection, and it also freshens up and improves combat with many new systems and rebalances. Nord Invasion turns the game into a coop wave survival mod with the persistence of cRPG. PW takes the combat of native and adds it into basically a whole new game where you undergo the role of whoever you want to be, whether it be merchant, miner or town guard.
Mount and Musket did the same thing as these mods, it took the core concept and turned it into basically a brand new game. Adding muskets and the resources for players to run organized linebattle re-enactments? Yeah that's minty fresh. Unfortunately the concept is just not as advanced or changed to have the longevity these other mods have. If we want to breathe new life into NW we need to update the formula to where it keeps the core concept but feels like a new game. We need a MRPG (Musket Role Playing Game), we need a PLB??? (Persistent Linebattle) (It's a thought), something that will reinvent the game but keep the things we love. That's what the successful Native mods do. You can't say Native isn't made more popular and kept alive by it's mods, without them it would be dead already. Unfortunately, thus far, NW has only been kept alive by itself. All it's mods so far have been re-skins or failed attempts, and it will stay that way until we get that one mod that gets it right.[close]
Some examples of people being wrong on the internet I think:You are wrong because I say so.
-The game is dying because of outdated graphics
Not really, outdated graphics is the main reason game has been alive for this long. This goes for Mount&Blade and all it's mods in general, if the game wasn't playable on low-end machines it would be dead by now, left by unfaithful audience composed of high-performance machine owners, who are often spoiled and low in spirit, and would rather go for simpler titles which let them achieve more self praise with less effort. I think portion of active players who don't own high-end machines is very large, and if somehow they all disappeared at once, the game would become dead that instant. With that being said, about 50% of epic figures I met, who I can't imagine game without, are running the game on crappy machines.
-NW has lack of depth
No, it does have lack of options to choose from, yes, but the depth of these options is amazing, proven by the fact that specialized (infantry and cav group fight) servers are always alive. Don't confuse quantity with quality, number of options and depth given by them. Depth of cavalry play is almost infinite, especially thanks to hussar horse, and you can spend years playing and learning process will hardly ever stop completely. Bayonet has depth as well, bit less than cav I think but I'm no expert there.
-The game is dying
Ofc, very very slowly though, I think it still has some life ahead of it, because there is nothing like it, you won't find these types of events in any other game, nor the melee system.
The game held amazingly well considering it is just a TC. The only reason I can think of NW is (slowly) dying, apart from natural reason of it being old, is because it is so dependent on friendships and bonds between people. Although this is initially good, it can also become a problem, as in some regiments all it takes is a couple of charismatic members drifting away from the game (for whichever reason, doesn't mean they got bored with it), and then slowly everything starts to collapse as older members miss the old friends and are annoyed by new recruits, the game loses meaning for them and becomes a 2nd or 3rd choice or they stop playing completely. Event the departure of enemy and hated rival can be a push for someone to quit playing. Probably same applied to real soldiers, who's friends got killed during campaigns and had their ranks filled with annoying new recruits, only they were forced by law to continue playing the game (now that sounds like a great idea :D)
As predicted the Steam summer sale has breathed new life into the playerbase. Servers are full of pubs these days.last a month
Those that stick around in the regiments, still a huge relief.As predicted the Steam summer sale has breathed new life into the playerbase. Servers are full of pubs these days.last a month
It really breathed some new life into Battlefield 3 too.
It really breathed some new life into Battlefield 3 too.
Just go away
every two posts is another one of your needless enlightenments
every thread on this forum about nw issues, you keep sticking your nose in
you also store a list of betty keys to give to people from servers i have not been banned from
ie servers i have BEHAVED on so they can still ban me anyway
pretty pathetic life you leave
whats that? you going to cry and run for the ban button as its your only defence
and you wonder why the `nw community` is sinking faster than the titanic
It really breathed some new life into Battlefield 3 too.
Just go away
every two posts is another one of your needless enlightenments
every thread on this forum about nw issues, you keep sticking your nose in
you also store a list of betty keys to give to people from servers i have not been banned from
ie servers i have BEHAVED on so they can still ban me anyway
pretty pathetic life you leave
whats that? you going to cry and run for the ban button as its your only defence
and you wonder why the `nw community` is sinking faster than the titanic
Commit yourself, you clearly need some form of professional help. Or give you all your money to charity instead of buying a million copies to troll a dying old games DLC. Also, bite me.
Also, bite me.
To be fair if they are eager to ban you when they get the IDs they probably have good reason to do so.
Also, bite me.
very profesional,
can you also explain why you have the nerve to give MY KEY IDS to servers that i have done ZILCH WRONG ON, in the hope they too can ban `just in case`?
this kind of pampering first class luxury treatment ive had without stop for two years now, and then you WONDER why bettys do what they do,
you claim `bettys got a chance` pfft thats a laugh......
about as much chance as telliing somebody they can be pushed off a cliff or jump off the cliff themself
you are like the zookeeper who keeps a lion in a cage all day, lets it go hungry, and then when the lion growls at people, you say `oh dear its an angry lion it must be put down`
if you treat people like garbage, you cant excpect them to be all peach and roseys back to you singing kumbaya! >:(
Also, It was my job. All the admins and server owners do it.
This is the last time I am going to directly communicate with you 'Betty' or whomever you are. Seek mental help.
Updates keeps the game alive and veterans interested. With no updates, the long-time-motivation will suffer -> End of NW
Although I don't believe the game is dying mods can only do so much my friend. They can't truly create a new troop class for people to play as or modify stats. Should clarify by that I mean stuff like enhancement mods.Yeah but that's entirely leaving out total conversions.
Could I get the betty keys?+1, Its like the 12th guys all over again
NW Mod, LOLOLOL. 90% of all NW mods lag and crash the server with 200 player events.Updates keeps the game alive and veterans interested. With no updates, the long-time-motivation will suffer -> End of NW
You dont need updates.. Just play a NW mod and you have more features, then in vanilla NW ;)
NW Mod, LOLOLOL. 90% of all NW mods lag and crash the server with 200 player events.Updates keeps the game alive and veterans interested. With no updates, the long-time-motivation will suffer -> End of NW
You dont need updates.. Just play a NW mod and you have more features, then in vanilla NW ;)
Don't forget bear force events that people tried to get to NW event numbers.... didnt work.NW Mod, LOLOLOL. 90% of all NW mods lag and crash the server with 200 player events.Updates keeps the game alive and veterans interested. With no updates, the long-time-motivation will suffer -> End of NW
You dont need updates.. Just play a NW mod and you have more features, then in vanilla NW ;)
I've played N&S and Blood And Iron Events with those numbers and there was nothing like that at all.
NW is pretty unstable around 200 players anyway, so it is hardly the fault of the mods.
just bring DiplexHeated and Malakith back
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if anything kills this game, its going to be steinmannyikes
Groupfighting kills this gameactually
no, shit people doGroupfighting kills this gameactually
no, shit people doGroupfighting kills this gameactually
The EU side is holding up strong but the NA side has been on its last legs since Fall of last year. :'(
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Entire playerbase is pretty strong.
Unfortunatly you can't see how many players play which module.
I think native has the biggest playerbase atm from all modules
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Entire playerbase is pretty strong.
Unfortunatly you can't see how many players play which module.
I think native has the biggest playerbase atm from all modules
Native is still very strong, the competitive side too but that's mainly because of proper organisation and marketing/sponsorship from taleworlds among other companies. But the NW community has a native team that plays in native tournaments currently in the WNL you might have heard of us NNN or Napoleonic Native Noobs or you might even be in a better team but if anybody wants to try native competitive and/or is pretty good at native send me a message and I will show you the details to the team :). We even won the Minor League!
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Entire playerbase is pretty strong.
Unfortunatly you can't see how many players play which module.
I think native has the biggest playerbase atm from all modules
Native is still very strong, the competitive side too but that's mainly because of proper organisation and marketing/sponsorship from taleworlds among other companies. But the NW community has a native team that plays in native tournaments currently in the WNL you might have heard of us NNN or Napoleonic Native Noobs or you might even be in a better team but if anybody wants to try native competitive and/or is pretty good at native send me a message and I will show you the details to the team :). We even won the Minor League!
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Entire playerbase is pretty strong.
Unfortunatly you can't see how many players play which module.
I think native has the biggest playerbase atm from all modules
Native is still very strong, the competitive side too but that's mainly because of proper organisation and marketing/sponsorship from taleworlds among other companies. But the NW community has a native team that plays in native tournaments currently in the WNL you might have heard of us NNN or Napoleonic Native Noobs or you might even be in a better team but if anybody wants to try native competitive and/or is pretty good at native send me a message and I will show you the details to the team :). We even won the Minor League!
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Entire playerbase is pretty strong.
Unfortunatly you can't see how many players play which module.
I think native has the biggest playerbase atm from all modules
Native is still very strong, the competitive side too but that's mainly because of proper organisation and marketing/sponsorship from taleworlds among other companies. But the NW community has a native team that plays in native tournaments currently in the WNL you might have heard of us NNN or Napoleonic Native Noobs or you might even be in a better team but if anybody wants to try native competitive and/or is pretty good at native send me a message and I will show you the details to the team :). We even won the Minor League!
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if anything kills this game, its going to be steinmannvouch
maturity XDDDD
Answers simple, product life cycle, year 7 business to university degree teaches you this. Shame NW wasn't paying attention :-[.Spoiler(https://www.economicshelp.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/product-life-cycle.png)[close]
Answers simple, product life cycle, year 7 business to university degree teaches you this. Shame NW wasn't paying attention :-[.Spoiler(https://www.economicshelp.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/product-life-cycle.png)[close]
I think growth halted in 2016.
Maturity I agree. I think people grew up and left their toy soldiers behind can't live in the basement forever :'(
Lazy management within groups also did harm. I've never understood why a leader can't just leave and the regiment persists? I know some groups have been successful doing this like 84th, 63e, 42nd for a time. I think good clans just fucking off and merging into ugly hybrids of them former selves stunted the competitive seen. (91st/92nd/84e/14e/8Lr/etc) all their members just joined temporary 8 month groups that didn't last or have any worth. Legacy and a continuously renewing of standard and defensive of titles would of made a massive impact in the competitive scene.
Good to see a debate
I agree w the new factions that should have been implemented years and years ago as well Kaide
Mate, you made half a dozen regiments, with entirely different members and none survive today. It was leaders like yourself that tried to get their regiment to disband once the CO left. Great regiments like the 33rd, 63e, 59th, 15YR survived and thrived with their founding leader stepping down. Gaming and friendship communities regiments survive. The regiments you mentioned "91st/92nd/84e/14e/8Lr/etc" are all long gone. Regiments like the 33rd and 59th have been around for three times their life-span. I struggle to see why people like to see NW in 2013 as the golden years. I am probably the only leader, who managed a large regiment in 2013 and still plays in 2019. I think the community on the whole at the moment is much nicer and friendlier than back in 2013.
Infact, I remember seeing FSE posts in 2013/2014 of people leaving saying the community got cancer. The problem is FSE should have further developed the game. Life cycle is critical to any product. Adding the Rhine, for example, is a typical mistake. Adding a re-skin of France/Prussia over a new faction such as Ottoman Empire is mind-boggling. There could have been a range of new countries added; from Spain to Portugal to the USA. Personally I think the Ottomon Empire, simply due to the large amount of Turks playing atm.
You're right on the hybrid problem. Regiments seem to want to be the largest and often over-extend. The 59th regiment has never had merges or ever allowed a none-59th member to walk into the 59th. The merit of community matters and many regiments fall in that regard. From 2015-2018 we were the largest and most competitive big regiment in NW and there weren't many rivalries. 77y dropped off, 63e lost all companies. Only the 59th, 33rd and what remained of the K-KA could field three competitive companies in an event.
The 59th spent a year in Holdfast, and has walked back into NW as one of the biggest and competitive regiments in NW. It does take community and the 63e not returning from Holdfast speaks volume about NW atm.
Alas.
You're right on the hybrid problem. Regiments seem to want to be the largest and often over-extend. The 59th regiment has never had merges or ever allowed a none-59th member to walk into the 59th. The merit of community matters and many regiments fall in that regard. From 2015-2018 we were the largest and most competitive big regiment in NW and there weren't many rivalries. 77y dropped off, 63e lost all companies. Only the 59th, 33rd and what remained of the K-KA could field three competitive companies in an event.
Mate, you made half a dozen regiments, with entirely different members and none survive today. It was leaders like yourself that tried to get their regiment to disband once the CO left. Great regiments like the 33rd, 63e, 59th, 15YR survived and thrived with their founding leader stepping down. Gaming and friendship communities regiments survive. The regiments you mentioned "91st/92nd/84e/14e/8Lr/etc" are all long gone. Regiments like the 33rd and 59th have been around for three times their life-span. I struggle to see why people like to see NW in 2013 as the golden years. I am probably the only leader, who managed a large regiment in 2013 and still plays in 2019. I think the community on the whole at the moment is much nicer and friendlier than back in 2013.
Infact, I remember seeing FSE posts in 2013/2014 of people leaving saying the community got cancer. The problem is FSE should have further developed the game. Life cycle is critical to any product. Adding the Rhine, for example, is a typical mistake. Adding a re-skin of France/Prussia over a new faction such as Ottoman Empire is mind-boggling. There could have been a range of new countries added; from Spain to Portugal to the USA. Personally I think the Ottomon Empire, simply due to the large amount of Turks playing atm.
You're right on the hybrid problem. Regiments seem to want to be the largest and often over-extend. The 59th regiment has never had merges or ever allowed a none-59th member to walk into the 59th. The merit of community matters and many regiments fall in that regard. From 2015-2018 we were the largest and most competitive big regiment in NW and there weren't many rivalries. 77y dropped off, 63e lost all companies. Only the 59th, 33rd and what remained of the K-KA could field three competitive companies in an event.
The 59th spent a year in Holdfast, and has walked back into NW as one of the biggest and competitive regiments in NW. It does take community and the 63e not returning from Holdfast speaks volume about NW atm.
Alas.
Just to be perfectly clear, I am not answering this to stir drama or anything of the sort but you have a very particular way of seeing your regiment Kaide and while a large part of what you say is true, I also feel you are completely misleading yourself on several other aspects. You can claim the 59th is the best NW community, has been and will ever be, that's completely fine by me. Saying you are also one of the regiments which was active back in the days and still is nowadays (in comparison to the aforementioned regiments) is still more than a fair point, despite the break / temporary move to Holdfast.
However, I really fail to understand how you can believe that the 59th has ever been in contention for the title of the most competitive and largest regiment of NW. Obviously, it's not the term 'largest' being wrong here (even if I'd say it's pretty hard to prove over a time-lapse of 8 years), but the competitive one. The 59th has never achieved any relevant placing against the regiments you mentioned. While I am pretty sure there are several results you can be proud of against these top regiments, you have never been even close to them in term of competitiveness. You were never a rival of the 8Lr, 91st, 92nd, 14e, K-KA, 84e. You were actually far from being even close to playing in the same field.
I am not trying to take away what you accomplished with the 59th, only a fool would. I am genuinely (and I meant it), happy to see old faces such as yours playing NW again and I also strongly believe that regiments who lasted over time such as the 59th had much more of a positive influence over the community rather than regiment which were created on the basis of recruiting already experienced and skilled players to beat other top regiments, but failed to survive the longevity test.
But going around (because that's not the first time I see you doing this) and claiming you have been the most competitive 'big' regiment in NW from 2015-2018 is living in your little fantasy world.
Nothing but the truth off his chest
You're right on the hybrid problem. Regiments seem to want to be the largest and often over-extend. The 59th regiment has never had merges or ever allowed a none-59th member to walk into the 59th. The merit of community matters and many regiments fall in that regard. From 2015-2018 we were the largest and most competitive big regiment in NW and there weren't many rivalries. 77y dropped off, 63e lost all companies. Only the 59th, 33rd and what remained of the K-KA could field three competitive companies in an event.Spoiler(https://s3.amazonaws.com/lowres.cartoonstock.com/medical-ego-big_ego-male_ego-egotistical-therapist-dcrn7_low.jpg)[close]
But in regards of the community as a whole,
its ofc going to go down in size over time, you cant force people to stick around and play an old game.
There will be newer and more appealing games coming out regularly for people to spend their time on.
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Essay me fam
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Essay me fam
It is only a game mate. No need for personal insults. Judging someones physical appearance over a internet game? How classy.
Strange as well considering the 59th borrowed our server to help you (15YR) host your event last week. Seems you're the one with the slit personality.
From day one I was under the impression Kaide was a big headed british nationalistic scumbag with no endearing social qualities to apparently anybody outside of the 59th. Bipolar ? Split personality ? Forehead fetish ?
Essay me fam
It is only a game mate. No need for personal insults. Judging someones physical appearance over a internet game? How classy.
Strange as well considering the 59th borrowed our server to help you (15YR) host your event last week. Seems you're the one with the slit personality.
Alright Paddy
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Essay me fam
It is only a game mate. No need for personal insults. Judging someones physical appearance over a internet game? How classy.
Strange as well considering the 59th borrowed our server to help you (15YR) host your event last week. Seems you're the one with the slit personality.
Alright Paddy
Clearly, you didn't know lol. Probs should be more polite to people who went out of their way to help your regiment last week?
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Essay me fam
It is only a game mate. No need for personal insults. Judging someones physical appearance over a internet game? How classy.
Strange as well considering the 59th borrowed our server to help you (15YR) host your event last week. Seems you're the one with the slit personality.
Alright Paddy
Clearly, you didn't know lol. Probs should be more polite to people who went out of their way to help your regiment last week?
Lol
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Essay me fam
It is only a game mate. No need for personal insults. Judging someones physical appearance over a internet game? How classy.
Strange as well considering the 59th borrowed our server to help you (15YR) host your event last week. Seems you're the one with the slit personality.
Alright Paddy
Clearly, you didn't know lol. Probs should be more polite to people who went out of their way to help your regiment last week?
Lol
Took me a good hour with poor internet signal on the train to try and get you a server. I went well out of my way to help you fellas.
just fyi, if irish insults you on your looks don't even take it serious lol
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just fyi, if irish insults you on your looks don't even take it serious lol
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There's no trees here Icegem
just fyi, if irish insults you on your looks don't even take it serious lol
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There's no trees here Icegem
whats that between your legs
Will try to answer when I can, cheers for taking the time to answer my post in a respectful manner despite the clear disagreements or different opinions.
For all the morons who cannot take part in an argument/discussion without throwing ad-hominem insults, I encourage you to stick to the M-NWWC or M. Points. Your comments probably won't be met with more enthusiasm there, but at least will they fit the general atmosphere of said threads.
It's come full circle back to the egos
kaide chill, irish is just fuckn with ya
Will try to answer when I can, cheers for taking the time to answer my post in a respectful manner despite the clear disagreements or different opinions.
For all the morons who cannot take part in an argument/discussion without throwing ad-hominem insults, I encourage you to stick to the M-NWWC or M. Points. Your comments probably won't be met with more enthusiasm there, but at least will they fit the general atmosphere of said threads.
M.points okay but M-NWWC ??? Seems like some people have lost their sense of humour or are incapable of understanding sarcasm these days. I think there are very few people who care enough to genuinely argue and debate over such trivial things such as "the best regiment". In regards to whats killing the game idk maybe the fact its getting on 8 years old? Like others have said before.
Will try to answer when I can, cheers for taking the time to answer my post in a respectful manner despite the clear disagreements or different opinions.
For all the morons who cannot take part in an argument/discussion without throwing ad-hominem insults, I encourage you to stick to the M-NWWC or M. Points. Your comments probably won't be met with more enthusiasm there, but at least will they fit the general atmosphere of said threads.
M.points okay but M-NWWC ??? Seems like some people have lost their sense of humour or are incapable of understanding sarcasm these days. I think there are very few people who care enough to genuinely argue and debate over such trivial things such as "the best regiment". In regards to whats killing the game idk maybe the fact its getting on 8 years old? Like others have said before.
The few times I checked the M-NWWC board, it was filled-up by rather idiotic and off-topic comments, by many of whom I usually see posting on the M. Point thread. I must admit, however, that I didn't check it all that often since several threads have been added, so maybe it wasn't a really fitting example.
As for the 'people have lost their sense of humour', I didn't find anything funny in what Irish said, but what's funny for me is probably not the same for you or him. My comment was also not directed at him necessarily but was more of a general statement to avoid any more shitposting. I caught something in what Kaide said which looked rather wrong to me, I addressed him about it and he answered me.
I also think you are completely lying to yourself if you think this is not the kind of discussion/argument/drama this community strives for. Just judging by the number of comments I got on steam from people being utterly pissed by Kaide's post, I can assure you its not just a 'few' people. But it's not what I was looking for when I started posting here, and for that reason, I will take it to PMs to avoid derailing this thread any further.
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Will try to answer when I can, cheers for taking the time to answer my post in a respectful manner despite the clear disagreements or different opinions.
For all the morons who cannot take part in an argument/discussion without throwing ad-hominem insults, I encourage you to stick to the M-NWWC or M. Points. Your comments probably won't be met with more enthusiasm there, but at least will they fit the general atmosphere of said threads.
M.points okay but M-NWWC ??? Seems like some people have lost their sense of humour or are incapable of understanding sarcasm these days. I think there are very few people who care enough to genuinely argue and debate over such trivial things such as "the best regiment". In regards to whats killing the game idk maybe the fact its getting on 8 years old? Like others have said before.
The few times I checked the M-NWWC board, it was filled-up by rather idiotic and off-topic comments, by many of whom I usually see posting on the M. Point thread. I must admit, however, that I didn't check it all that often since several threads have been added, so maybe it wasn't a really fitting example.
As for the 'people have lost their sense of humour', I didn't find anything funny in what Irish said, but what's funny for me is probably not the same for you or him. My comment was also not directed at him necessarily but was more of a general statement to avoid any more shitposting. I caught something in what Kaide said which looked rather wrong to me, I addressed him about it and he answered me.
I also think you are completely lying to yourself if you think this is not the kind of discussion/argument/drama this community strives for. Just judging by the number of comments I got on steam from people being utterly pissed by Kaide's post, I can assure you its not just a 'few' people. But it's not what I was looking for when I started posting here, and for that reason, I will take it to PMs to avoid derailing this thread any further.
All I can say is: #BringBackGreasyLocks
Im not talking about either of them >:(All I can say is: #BringBackGreasyLocks
Rommel / Salakien has a name
That’s pritty gey dood
imo, Boredom. The game has been out for some time. Ppl like variety and new things. And keeping hold of the interest is tough with a game as old as this
Even views are down generally for NW and M&B content on YT.
Just my $0.02
People constantly reforming and disbanding regiments. Every time they do this a couple old players stop playing. Last summer there were 3 other competitive regiments that would fight 15th. Now there is one.
imo, Boredom. The game has been out for some time. Ppl like variety and new things. And keeping hold of the interest is tough with a game as old as this
Even views are down generally for NW and M&B content on YT.
Just my $0.02
We in the 59th have always valued your time and effort in recording MB events :)
People constantly reforming and disbanding regiments. Every time they do this a couple old players stop playing. Last summer there were 3 other competitive regiments that would fight 15th. Now there is one.
Sounds like 15ths killing the game. Typical Joel moveGo back to roleplaying as a stripper on GTA buddy
People constantly reforming and disbanding regiments. Every time they do this a couple old players stop playing. Last summer there were 3 other competitive regiments that would fight 15th. Now there is one.actually everytime they do a couple old players start playing the game again so no. what you mentionned is just a corollary of kids growing older, therefore having increasingly less free time, and increasingly less players picking up this old fart of a game which is completely normal and to be expected
ah yes nw the only game where people are mean to each otherNW is the only game where I have seen so much toxicity in the chat
This game has nothing on CS, Dota, League, CoD, BF, Rainbow Six or Fifa tbh, and that's just the ones that game to my head in a few seconds.ah yes nw the only game where people are mean to each otherNW is the only game where I have seen so much toxicity in the chat
Learn to read and comprehend.
I'm just tired of seeing edgy teenagers use the n word every 2 seconds in events tbhNAGGER?
I'm just tired of seeing edgy teenagers use the n word every 2 seconds in events tbhNAGGER?
The current ultra passive skeying meta is what's driving the game in the dirt imorikkert went 0-14 in pickups last night against two 55th privates
If you only blame toxicity for the game's questionnable "dying", do u even csgo ?
Everybody plays warband for its gameplay. If you remove that (i.e by skeying constantly and just preying on everybody else's offense making offensive players who aren't on rikkert's or python's level a burden) then the game will eventually die completely because it will virtualy become a patience game where we watch each other do nothing til someone makes a mistake.
Edit; just want to point out this is my personnal pov as a semi-casual player - I could be wrong and I don't aim to criticise players who do well in this setting
2-15 actually retard, get ur facts straightThe current ultra passive skeying meta is what's driving the game in the dirt imorikkert went 0-14 in pickups last night against two 55th privates
If you only blame toxicity for the game's questionnable "dying", do u even csgo ?
Everybody plays warband for its gameplay. If you remove that (i.e by skeying constantly and just preying on everybody else's offense making offensive players who aren't on rikkert's or python's level a burden) then the game will eventually die completely because it will virtualy become a patience game where we watch each other do nothing til someone makes a mistake.
Edit; just want to point out this is my personnal pov as a semi-casual player - I could be wrong and I don't aim to criticise players who do well in this setting
The current ultra passive skeying meta is what's driving the game in the dirt imoWell if you don’t like s keying players just come to NA then. People tend to spam and be a lot more aggressive then EU players.
If you only blame toxicity for the game's questionnable "dying", do u even csgo ?
Everybody plays warband for its gameplay. If you remove that (i.e by skeying constantly and just preying on everybody else's offense making offensive players who aren't on rikkert's or python's level a burden) then the game will eventually die completely because it will virtualy become a patience game where we watch each other do nothing til someone makes a mistake.
Edit; just want to point out this is my personnal pov as a semi-casual player - I could be wrong and I don't aim to criticise players who do well in this setting
The current ultra passive skeying meta is what's driving the game in the dirt imoWell if you don’t like s keying players just come to NA then. People tend to spam and be a lot more aggressive then EU players.
If you only blame toxicity for the game's questionnable "dying", do u even csgo ?
Everybody plays warband for its gameplay. If you remove that (i.e by skeying constantly and just preying on everybody else's offense making offensive players who aren't on rikkert's or python's level a burden) then the game will eventually die completely because it will virtualy become a patience game where we watch each other do nothing til someone makes a mistake.
Edit; just want to point out this is my personnal pov as a semi-casual player - I could be wrong and I don't aim to criticise players who do well in this setting
alright lemme just quickly msg pewdiepie
Yes you can sleep to my sheep Dolly.The current ultra passive skeying meta is what's driving the game in the dirt imoWell if you don’t like s keying players just come to NA then. People tend to spam and be a lot more aggressive then EU players.
If you only blame toxicity for the game's questionnable "dying", do u even csgo ?
Everybody plays warband for its gameplay. If you remove that (i.e by skeying constantly and just preying on everybody else's offense making offensive players who aren't on rikkert's or python's level a burden) then the game will eventually die completely because it will virtualy become a patience game where we watch each other do nothing til someone makes a mistake.
Edit; just want to point out this is my personnal pov as a semi-casual player - I could be wrong and I don't aim to criticise players who do well in this setting
true i will just move right now is there a free bedroom in your farmhouse
Yes you can sleep to my sheep Dolly.The current ultra passive skeying meta is what's driving the game in the dirt imoWell if you don’t like s keying players just come to NA then. People tend to spam and be a lot more aggressive then EU players.
If you only blame toxicity for the game's questionnable "dying", do u even csgo ?
Everybody plays warband for its gameplay. If you remove that (i.e by skeying constantly and just preying on everybody else's offense making offensive players who aren't on rikkert's or python's level a burden) then the game will eventually die completely because it will virtualy become a patience game where we watch each other do nothing til someone makes a mistake.
Edit; just want to point out this is my personnal pov as a semi-casual player - I could be wrong and I don't aim to criticise players who do well in this setting
true i will just move right now is there a free bedroom in your farmhouse
We teach em well ;)The current ultra passive skeying meta is what's driving the game in the dirt imorikkert went 0-14 in pickups last night against two 55th privates
If you only blame toxicity for the game's questionnable "dying", do u even csgo ?
Everybody plays warband for its gameplay. If you remove that (i.e by skeying constantly and just preying on everybody else's offense making offensive players who aren't on rikkert's or python's level a burden) then the game will eventually die completely because it will virtualy become a patience game where we watch each other do nothing til someone makes a mistake.
Edit; just want to point out this is my personnal pov as a semi-casual player - I could be wrong and I don't aim to criticise players who do well in this setting
You can agree or disagree either way VetroG still blows corn on the cob out his ass.
patience is a skill broSpoiler(https://i.imgur.com/ZGgbJNh.png)[close]
patience = recognizing that you aren't good enough to release a stab or enter the enemy's rangepatience is a skill broSpoiler(https://i.imgur.com/ZGgbJNh.png)[close]
Any list that rates patience is automatically fucking retarded :)
patience = recognizing that you aren't good enough to release a stab or enter the enemy's rangepatience is a skill broSpoiler(https://i.imgur.com/ZGgbJNh.png)[close]
Any list that rates patience is automatically fucking retarded :)
The current ultra passive skeying meta is what's driving the game in the dirt imo
If you only blame toxicity for the game's questionnable "dying", do u even csgo ?
Everybody plays warband for its gameplay. If you remove that (i.e by skeying constantly and just preying on everybody else's offense making offensive players who aren't on rikkert's or python's level a burden) then the game will eventually die completely because it will virtualy become a patience game where we watch each other do nothing til someone makes a mistake.
Edit; just want to point out this is my personnal pov as a semi-casual player - I could be wrong and I don't aim to criticise players who do well in this setting
patience = recognizing that you aren't good enough to release a stab or enter the enemy's rangepatience is a skill broSpoiler(https://i.imgur.com/ZGgbJNh.png)[close]
Any list that rates patience is automatically fucking retarded :)
alright lemme just quickly msg pewdiepie
everyone spam his business email! he can't ignore all of us!
Tbh even something basic like adding another faction in brings new people in/players back. Add something like that in plus same basic extra in game server tools and you'd see an influx.patience = recognizing that you aren't good enough to release a stab or enter the enemy's rangepatience is a skill broSpoiler(https://i.imgur.com/ZGgbJNh.png)[close]
Any list that rates patience is automatically fucking retarded :)
Anyways I believe the only way for the game to get a lot of new players (and have them stay) is with a new updated/upgraded version of the game.
Tbh even something basic like adding another faction in brings new people in/players back. Add something like that in plus same basic extra in game server tools and you'd see an influx.patience = recognizing that you aren't good enough to release a stab or enter the enemy's rangepatience is a skill broSpoiler(https://i.imgur.com/ZGgbJNh.png)[close]
Any list that rates patience is automatically fucking retarded :)
Anyways I believe the only way for the game to get a lot of new players (and have them stay) is with a new updated/upgraded version of the game.
They don't all leave some stay, and anymore staying is more than what we already have.and then they leave soon after again, why bother?SpoilerTbh even something basic like adding another faction in brings new people in/players back. Add something like that in plus same basic extra in game server tools and you'd see an influx.patience = recognizing that you aren't good enough to release a stab or enter the enemy's rangepatience is a skill broSpoiler(https://i.imgur.com/ZGgbJNh.png)[close]
Any list that rates patience is automatically fucking retarded :)
Anyways I believe the only way for the game to get a lot of new players (and have them stay) is with a new updated/upgraded version of the game.[close]
Did anyone notice that player count halved during Covid?Its not only Covid. I think that the Bannerlord launch in March also affected the attendance
Before covid it was at an average of 11k, then March 20k and now only 5-6k players? (concurrent players)
Rip M&B player base. It spiked in March up to very high player base then just dropped?
Bannerlord is the only reason, so the answer to your question is bannerlord lol
Source Steam DB
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Did anyone notice that player count halved during Covid?id argue a lot of mb people started uni in the last 3 years too
Before covid it was at an average of 11k, then March 20k and now only 5-6k players? (concurrent players)
Rip M&B player base. It spiked in March up to very high player base then just dropped?
Bannerlord is the only reason, so the answer to your question is bannerlord lol
Source Steam DB
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But Bannerlord MP isnt that active. So the SP players from Warband just went on to Bannerlord SP. So in the end that doesnt affect the MP playerbase of NW or Native.I have been on the SP platforms such as reddit, the reddit discord and whatnot and I probably redirected around 20ish people to proper NW communities I think we can get more players still to atleast equally the amount of players leaving by just putting some more love into the game :)
Im not up to date about the situation in both games, but that how it seems to me.
What kind of help would a new reg even need though? Nobody can magically pull more active members out of their hat.
first ogj are a new reg w new leadership but are casual
think we all need to accept game is dead and nothing we can do, its been 8 years and counting for me so pretty much done w it
i don't see any other new regs from scratch in the last few months or that are going to be created in the. next fewfirst ogj are a new reg w new leadership but are casual
think we all need to accept game is dead and nothing we can do, its been 8 years and counting for me so pretty much done w it
1stOGJ gives me autism, if that is the standard of new NW regiment lord help us
The comp scene in EU right now is pretty much 15th and 45thN then a small step down to 92nd/96y/27th then unfortunatly regiments like Ive, 55th and 2Lr which although are not bad regiments, cannot compete atm in a groupfights....pppppsssssssssssssssssssssssssssst, It's been like 2-3 regiments max competing for nearly 3 years. We got spoiled during the first corona wave, but even then it was 3 regiments at most that were close in skill level at the top. Before that it was exactly the same as the situation you just described but with 15th and K-KA and a random reg every now and then that would disband within 6 months.
There's a few casual regiments which could do comp and are big enough if they wanted to but clearly just arent that interested... like 16th, 65y and more.... who can easily pull enough players who have been playing the game for a long time now...
and a special mention to 33rd who are competitive but since i have done about 1 gf with them in the last year idk how comp they are these days.
yes sireeThe comp scene in EU right now is pretty much 15th and 45thN then a small step down to 92nd/96y/27th then unfortunatly regiments like Ive, 55th and 2Lr which although are not bad regiments, cannot compete atm in a groupfights....pppppsssssssssssssssssssssssssssst, It's been like 2-3 regiments max competing for nearly 3 years. We got spoiled during the first corona wave, but even then it was 3 regiments at most that were close in skill level at the top. Before that it was exactly the same as the situation you just described but with 15th and K-KA and a random reg every now and then that would disband within 6 months.
There's a few casual regiments which could do comp and are big enough if they wanted to but clearly just arent that interested... like 16th, 65y and more.... who can easily pull enough players who have been playing the game for a long time now...
and a special mention to 33rd who are competitive but since i have done about 1 gf with them in the last year idk how comp they are these days.
Edit: Tbf you can go back in time even further and see that in the RGL season of 2017 it was exactly the same. 66th and 85e at the top -> massive skill gap -> 77y and K-KA.
We should disband all regiments and make one huge regiment
What kind of help would a new reg even need though? Nobody can magically pull more active members out of their hat.
The uphill struggle is just getting steeper and steeper. Its easier to make a name out of yourself both skill wise and leadership wise if you just join one of the larger regiments at this point purely cos its getting increasingly difficult to actually recruit members if you start off a regiment with a small name. Especially cos the cooler more innovative events that are on offer are few and far between often requiring regiments to be well known and bigger (i.e 20+ for line regiments)
If you start off a fresh regiment that is specialist based it'd be even harder - the majority of top tier events have HUGE waiting lists for these types of units and there aren't even enough Linebattles going round (roughly 2 full events for weekdays and maybe 3 on weekends) to accommodate your specialist regiment, it'll be impossible to grabfor these specialists slots when you're competing against large regiments that'll bring a line too to secure that slot. As a small new line regiment you'd just get stuck in the same old boring events with heaps of specialist units just using and abusing you - something that we've all played repetitively for too many years, with a small of intake of recruits you could get on a good day (and even smaller retention rate - especially now) stagnation and repetitiveness is a recipe for disaster.
Kinda sad because theres no decent mid-low tier EU regiment that is positioning itself to be the dark horse of NW for 2021 that could both really introduce more players and get the purely casual players much more involved, but I guess if there is a demand something will always spring up, question is - is there even enough demand anymore?
Kinda sad because theres no decent mid-low tier EU regiment that is positioning itself to be the dark horse of NW for 2021 that could both really introduce more players and get the purely casual players much more involved, but I guess if there is a demand something will always spring up, question is - is there even enough demand anymore?
The community needs a regimental tournament without the 15thYR, 45thN, 92nd, 96y and 27th . These cancer regiments are killing the game.
Crazy how this thread was started in 2014 and we're still here for some reason
essentially this but a little more nuanced :-*The community needs a regimental tournament without the 15thYR, 45thN, 92nd, 96y and 27th . These cancer regiments are killing the game.
Host one then
Crazy how this thread was started in 2014 and we're still here for some reasonIt's because you are killing the game Snowwi.
Might go inactive again and come back 4 years laterCrazy how this thread was started in 2014 and we're still here for some reasonIt's because you are killing the game Snowwi.
I'll message you in 2024 to join my new regiment.Might go inactive again and come back 4 years laterCrazy how this thread was started in 2014 and we're still here for some reasonIt's because you are killing the game Snowwi.
not enough people getting involved
I might be wrong and it would also probably never happen, wouldn't a sale on both Warband and the NW DLC help with luring in new potential players?They are on sale Every summer/winter whatever sale, nw 75%, warband 50% last time I saw it.
Than again that's Taleworlds decision and not FSE's.
So an interesting point was given by Chriseh and Tardet during the EIC twitch test stream the one prior to the one with Gi.
They talked about how native managed to get themselves into an E-sport position, now a days you dont hear a lot about it but the native community were always far smaller then the NW community.
But they still managed to get sponsors and host something that really was on a professional level and from an outsider perspective (myself) it put a lot of life back into the native game.
I think personally NW can do this to, if you simply think back of the pretty hardcore rivalries we have had and still have in our community, it really has been filled with really good competitive moments, in the regimental scene, GF teams scene, duel scenes, etc.
If we can get the NW community united behind this idea of lets try to hit the E-sport scenery I think we have a solid chance of getting a lot more old people back into the game + getting new people because due to cloud that you can get thro twitch/youtube, lets be honest a lot of fucking people who first go into warband/NW saw the videos from Malakith, Aldemar, Chadman and thought to themselves lets fucking play this it looks pretty sick.
But eventually you have achieved everything in this game after some years and you result to either play for fun or just stop playing but when a prize pool of some sort can be added other then some individuals donating a few bucks (nothing bad to the people who donated I did it myself as well), lets say like a proper prize pool of 500 euros or above that would make things a lot more interesting and who knows where the limit would be, if manage to market ourselves in a good way.
Ofcourse their are many obstacles along the way, to name one is that NW is an old game... BUT its a solid game yes it has its occasional flaws but it truely hold some sort of skill to play this game.
Look at CSGO its also a very old game with more features but still it has stayed relatively the same in its core competitive play.
I might ofcourse be talking from a very optimistic point of view but I honestly believe we are able to pull it off, we already have so many great youtubers/twitchers like Tardet, Shadey, Chriseh, etc.
I am interested what people would think about this :)
PS.
I myself already started a bit of trial commentary see how it could workout on my youtube hence I thought I would give some more explanation here 8)
im arm wrestling gibby at next lan
Sorry who is so negative Alf?
Sorry who is so negative Alf?me is
Sorry who is so negative Alf?me is
After the Battle of Bucharest I was in the talking stages of a LAN with Frank from Taleworlds this was before he left and it fell apart. But it's not impossible they were interested even back then doing something big like the Bucharest LAN.
After the Battle of Bucharest I was in the talking stages of a LAN with Frank from Taleworlds this was before he left and it fell apart. But it's not impossible they were interested even back then doing something big like the Bucharest LAN.
If I remember correctly, a month ago a big Native Warband tournament organizer tried to contact Taleworlds to perhaps add a prize pool and advertise the tournament, but they simply ignored him, didn't even give him a response, they are more focused on bannerlord unfortunately.
TW never gave half a shit about anyone playing their games.
Small number players which want play game
Small number players which want play game
I feel like the only drawback to having a tournament with a large prize pool (online) is the fact that the game lacks a proper anti-cheat system. It's a shame though. I feel like more people would take tournaments more seriously with large prize pools and increase the competitiveness and skill of that tournament. Every time I host a gf tournament it seems like 50% or more don't even care about the prize pool because it's so low per person (my last one was $350). But anyways, what would be the point if there were autoblocking scares midway through a tournament/season. I know within the NA scene there are people who have been recently caught using it/still use it.Only nerds like Jazz use autoblock
I feel like the only drawback to having a tournament with a large prize pool (online) is the fact that the game lacks a proper anti-cheat system. It's a shame though. I feel like more people would take tournaments more seriously with large prize pools and increase the competitiveness and skill of that tournament. Every time I host a gf tournament it seems like 50% or more don't even care about the prize pool because it's so low per person (my last one was $350). But anyways, what would be the point if there were autoblocking scares midway through a tournament/season. I know within the NA scene there are people who have been recently caught using it/still use it.
There is no real way to 'catch' someone though unless they're dumb enough to admit it. You can say what 'looks' like cheating via videos but it's impossible to confirm unless the cheater proves it themselves due to the lack of anti-cheat. So what you just said is easier said than done.I feel like the only drawback to having a tournament with a large prize pool (online) is the fact that the game lacks a proper anti-cheat system. It's a shame though. I feel like more people would take tournaments more seriously with large prize pools and increase the competitiveness and skill of that tournament. Every time I host a gf tournament it seems like 50% or more don't even care about the prize pool because it's so low per person (my last one was $350). But anyways, what would be the point if there were autoblocking scares midway through a tournament/season. I know within the NA scene there are people who have been recently caught using it/still use it.
Just exclude caught cheaters indefinitely from any tournament as community.
I feel like the only drawback to having a tournament with a large prize pool (online) is the fact that the game lacks a proper anti-cheat system.
Imagine someone making a glowing musket mod, like just get better eyesight bro???I thought that was a meme mod
Fifa Pro Clubs is destroying NW45THN CLUB IN FIFA 21 IS BEST
I feel like the only drawback to having a tournament with a large prize pool (online) is the fact that the game lacks a proper anti-cheat system.
Yeah, the biggest reason why I didn't want to participate in NWWC and the biggest reason why I always laugh at ppl when they flex how "PRO" they are and how many tourneys they have won just to see them releasing videos of them using glowing muskets, X% zoom outs, HP MOD, radar, etc... I just don't feel that after what I have seen I can take these tourneys seriously no more...
Personally I don’t have an issue with glowing muskets bcs I use a very dark monitor with a black LED. And it can be really hard even with max brightness to see muskets because of these dark colours ingame, so the yellow really helps eliminate this factor. But yeah HP mods etc are just cringe and give actual advantagesI feel like the only drawback to having a tournament with a large prize pool (online) is the fact that the game lacks a proper anti-cheat system.
Yeah, the biggest reason why I didn't want to participate in NWWC and the biggest reason why I always laugh at ppl when they flex how "PRO" they are and how many tourneys they have won just to see them releasing videos of them using glowing muskets, X% zoom outs, HP MOD, radar, etc... I just don't feel that after what I have seen I can take these tourneys seriously no more...
using them is the first thing, but uploading videos using these "mods" is just the best thing I've ever witnessed. Better than Mr. word.exe Forsaken himself
92nd
92nd
stun kicks, prove me wrongStabbing someone 3 times with direct hits before they one stab you.
stun kicks, prove me wrongStabbing someone 3 times with direct hits before they one stab you.
stun kicks, prove me wrongStabbing someone 3 times with direct hits before they one stab you.
kick glitch , animation glitches , gf team called virgins thx
Sadism and elitism here is this big problem :'(Pobbers spittin facts
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cat girls
We need more cat girls
We need more cat girls
Sadism and elitism here is this big problem :'(
7 years later it's still dyingNA is pretty fuckin dead, esp pub scene atm. still got a comp scene of 70 or so for draft gf leagues but even comp regs are more or less a thing of the past :(
I personally don%u2019t think the game is dying for any particular reasonYah a big chunk of players played from 2012 to now and a lot of us were like 12 year old kids at the time when we started. 9 years later a lot of us are adults now with jobs and college shit to deal with. I agree with u on that
Honestly it is a old game and players are ageing out of it. This draft league has tons of issues with people having jobs and life%u2019s outside of video games
Yesir started at 15yo now im 24. People just grow out of it with no new people taking their place.I personally don%u2019t think the game is dying for any particular reasonYah a big chunk of players played from 2012 to now and a lot of us were like 12 year old kids at the time when we started. 9 years later a lot of us are adults now with jobs and college shit to deal with. I agree with u on that
Honestly it is a old game and players are ageing out of it. This draft league has tons of issues with people having jobs and life%u2019s outside of video games
The cycle of life hit NW pretty hard.
Yah I was in 6th grade when I started. This game really watched all of us grow upYesir started at 15yo now im 24. People just grow out of it with no new people taking their place.I personally don%u2019t think the game is dying for any particular reasonYah a big chunk of players played from 2012 to now and a lot of us were like 12 year old kids at the time when we started. 9 years later a lot of us are adults now with jobs and college shit to deal with. I agree with u on that
Honestly it is a old game and players are ageing out of it. This draft league has tons of issues with people having jobs and life%u2019s outside of video games
The cycle of life hit NW pretty hard.
yeah the thing is that there was never a real new generation after 2018Yesir started at 15yo now im 24. People just grow out of it with no new people taking their place.I personally don%u2019t think the game is dying for any particular reasonYah a big chunk of players played from 2012 to now and a lot of us were like 12 year old kids at the time when we started. 9 years later a lot of us are adults now with jobs and college shit to deal with. I agree with u on that
Honestly it is a old game and players are ageing out of it. This draft league has tons of issues with people having jobs and life%u2019s outside of video games
The cycle of life hit NW pretty hard.
Idk about the growing up part. Some of you still act like you're 12. ::)Yah I was in 6th grade when I started. This game really watched all of us grow upYesir started at 15yo now im 24. People just grow out of it with no new people taking their place.I personally don%u2019t think the game is dying for any particular reasonYah a big chunk of players played from 2012 to now and a lot of us were like 12 year old kids at the time when we started. 9 years later a lot of us are adults now with jobs and college shit to deal with. I agree with u on that
Honestly it is a old game and players are ageing out of it. This draft league has tons of issues with people having jobs and life%u2019s outside of video games
The cycle of life hit NW pretty hard.
midnight out here murdering people
yeah the thing is that there was never a real new generation after 2018Yesir started at 15yo now im 24. People just grow out of it with no new people taking their place.I personally don%u2019t think the game is dying for any particular reasonYah a big chunk of players played from 2012 to now and a lot of us were like 12 year old kids at the time when we started. 9 years later a lot of us are adults now with jobs and college shit to deal with. I agree with u on that
Honestly it is a old game and players are ageing out of it. This draft league has tons of issues with people having jobs and life%u2019s outside of video games
The cycle of life hit NW pretty hard.
Idk about the growing up part. Some of you still act like you're 12. ::)Yah I was in 6th grade when I started. This game really watched all of us grow upYesir started at 15yo now im 24. People just grow out of it with no new people taking their place.I personally don%u2019t think the game is dying for any particular reasonYah a big chunk of players played from 2012 to now and a lot of us were like 12 year old kids at the time when we started. 9 years later a lot of us are adults now with jobs and college shit to deal with. I agree with u on that
Honestly it is a old game and players are ageing out of it. This draft league has tons of issues with people having jobs and life%u2019s outside of video games
The cycle of life hit NW pretty hard.
Idk about the growing up part. Some of you still act like you're 12. ::)Yah I was in 6th grade when I started. This game really watched all of us grow upYesir started at 15yo now im 24. People just grow out of it with no new people taking their place.I personally don%u2019t think the game is dying for any particular reasonYah a big chunk of players played from 2012 to now and a lot of us were like 12 year old kids at the time when we started. 9 years later a lot of us are adults now with jobs and college shit to deal with. I agree with u on that
Honestly it is a old game and players are ageing out of it. This draft league has tons of issues with people having jobs and life%u2019s outside of video games
The cycle of life hit NW pretty hard.
NW is one of those games where growing up on it teaches you whatever bullshit you say on the Internet has no consequences.
Which is true. Awesome community 👏
NW is one of those games where growing up on it teaches you whatever bullshit you say on the Internet has no consequences.
Which is true. Awesome community 👏
What is killing the game, you ask? Time. And other similar games nowadays.usnavy... now that is a name I have not seen in a long time <3
This guy called Maskman is pretty much doing most of the work! :D
boboy is killing the game
toxic community.
You get treated how you act Bodya.toxic community.
language barrier just too strongYou get treated how you act Bodya.toxic community.
As a wise man once said "what he need, will be do?"
Its not even a language barrier with him though...well partly yes xDman just went through a redemption arc that's all
The problem is Bodya acted like a retard for so many years then flipped a switch in his brain and we are supposed to pretend he is normal
Haven't played this game since like 2015 looking to get back into it. Is it worth it?
Haven't played this game since like 2015 looking to get back into it. Is it worth it?yeah , sure
Haven't played this game since like 2015 looking to get back into it. Is it worth it?
Haven't played this game since like 2015 looking to get back into it. Is it worth it?33rd is probs ur best bet for a good reg rn, they do both comp and casual stuff
Haven't played this game since like 2015 looking to get back into it. Is it worth it?
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