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Title: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: SirBeef on June 12, 2020, 03:54:34 am
The Issue with Corrupt Admins in NW

For a long time now, ever since the NW community has seen a steady decline in attendance to events (especially the more popular weekend events), there has been an ever present problem with each and every event that I attend. The admins. It's very clear what the problem is. The admins come from the same regiments, groups, clans, or whatever you want to call them, and show no sign of giving up their spot. For as long as I can remember since I joined the community, the same prominent admins have been running everything: Crusader and GinjaJosh (2ndHan), NickyJ and Jetch (LIR), Jazz (1KL), Moraine (idfk anymore), and Shrooms  (idk this one either). Every single event it seems to start with the same issue: late starts and terrible team balance. I have seen plenty of events in the past month where there was a "skill balance" excuse put in place to cover everything up. Really? Putting the 61e, 2ndHan, LIR, and RSL on the same team is a skill balance. Fuck no it ain't. It's definitely not those exact regiments on the same team every time, but you get the just of what I'm saying. Stacking all the bigger, and, arguably somewhat skilled/veteran groups on one team is not a "skill balance". The admins clearly only want to stack their own regiment on a team that they feel like has the greatest chance of winning. Which brings me to my next topic: specialties. Holy fuck y'all got the same specs for the same regiments almost every single night like what the hell? It's almost as if some of these groups forgot how to play line for an entire event. Don't forget, the ones who usually get the specs like to break the rules for the limits as well, and don't really have any rush to correct their mistake. That shit gets really old, really fast.

To give everyone an idea, here are the regiments that admin events (to the best of my knowledge):

2ndHan
LIR
61e (sometimes)
1KL (sometimes)
6te (rarely)
And whatever regiment Shrooms is with

And the regiments that don't:

88th
8e
65y
KLB (for the most part)
41e
2ndLN
7eL
24th
1stCAN
2LBI
1stRWY
3rdEK
RKR
RSL (rarely)
HMS Pickle
34e
3e
21st
13thFL
55th
72nd
1stRddt
87th
1erGap
Nr9
And some other stragglers I can't remember


Does anyone else not see the issue? It's the same regiments every time. It's not that people don't volunteer to admin either, there have been plenty attemps (failed, clearly) to try and get some new regiments to provide admins to make things more fair. Those attempts were few and far between because of the ignorance of the people we were trying to talk to. You can rarely get a response from an admin nowadays when it comes to an issue that you have - unless you're a part of their regiment or a close friend.

Another issue, regarding the bias, is the mistreatment of those regiments that have not had an opportunity to admin yet before. Sure, some regiments may troll. That's a given. Some regiments may not act appropriately during events, but that's not the point. The point is that when someone breaks the rules against these regiments, if it's not in broad fucking daylight or on all charge when everyone is watching, nothing will be done about it. I can't really say how many times I've gone to an admin, whether it be through teamspeak or steam, about someone breaking the rules, and I either get no response from them, or they just "didn't see it" or "it's too late now". What the fuck? I can't tell you how quickly I've seen people get slayed for breaking the rules when it happens to one of the regiments that the admin is a part of. And then their player gets revived. Which, is another issue. The fucking respawning and reviving. God forbid someone is FOC'd or FOL'd and is not revived if they're a part of the admins regiment. The last time I saw that happen and they WEREN'T revived, I saw a unicorn shit a leprechaun at the edge of the flat earth.

And my last sweet, sweet surprise for everyone: corruption. It's not even funny. I just wanted to do this so I could see if it would actually work, but it did and I just couldn't keep it from anyone when I was bringing this issue into the spotlight.

Here it is:

(https://i.gyazo.com/037edbfd57332cf374284b6a8e4ce61e.png)

What the fuck dude like come on. Like is this really a thing now? That's what admins are about these days? That's just shameful y'all. Taking bribes for specs? Like come on now. This is just ridiculous at this stage. This is why our community is so toxic. These are the issues that we, as a whole, need to confront. We need to address the issues and find a way to fix them as soon as possible in order to make these events more fun and enjoyable for EVERYONE, not just for a handful of regiments. Let's get new admins, have them switch out. Let's not just fucking ban an ENTIRE REGIMENT from an event, and not give a reason. This community, even though the NA side is noticeably smaller than it was a year or two years ago, still has potential. There's still room for growth and improvement in these events, we just need to make that change happen.

If you want to message me on steam, feel free to add me. I'd appreciate an open forum on this and what we can do to fix it.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/usmc_sirbeef/
(https://i.gyazo.com/0c7a6de89a6f4c60cba4b0767fcda874.png)

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk, see you fucks later.


Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Nachtel on June 12, 2020, 04:20:31 am
r/whooooosh

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/701295739082375199/720823563250303006/unknown.png)



EDIT: Also you're an admin in my event.

EDIT #2: YES I give him permission to post a screenshot of our steam conversation. If you delete it people will just think we're "censoring the truth" or some shit. My response is as much as I'll put in to this useless thread. Refer to Stryker's 14th point as my response to anything more.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Lord_Byron on June 12, 2020, 04:20:59 am
i mean, regardless of the context, the meaning is still there
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Ginga Josh on June 12, 2020, 04:23:13 am
you were banned Wednesday because you couldn't control your regiment from TKing each other lol
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 12, 2020, 04:24:24 am
This is just my little chip in this. I get where you're coming from but at the same time admining hasn't changed much over the past four years. No admin is perfect, they literally can't see everything that goes on and can't see every single line that may FOC especially if there's only one or two admins in spec, Yes they will see some and slay right away but dude come on lay off it.
About specs it was obvious that Nachtel was joking, also every regiment that gets specs sign-up on the thread. They're the first to post that's nothing new.

Also the current admins are admins and hosters because they've done it the longest and have the most experience hosting weekly events. If you message them with people in mind to start admining they'll accept. I offered new people to join and some did, they just didn't stick with it.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Moraine on June 12, 2020, 04:26:51 am
I'm not corrupt :D~ I've been running events since 2014
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Pinoy12 on June 12, 2020, 04:27:28 am
always love pub reg drama, thanks for the laugh.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: BabyJesus on June 12, 2020, 04:43:50 am
Fuck I’ll let you play specs for $10
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: [Stryker] on June 12, 2020, 04:50:02 am
1.) not going to take your word seriously cause I don't even know who you are
2.) I have nothing personal against 88th but until i see differently i consider the regiment kinda trolly and assholey
3.) If you have ever admined before you would know its an unforgiving job that nobody wants to fucking do
4.) I do believe that taking bribes for specs is a shitty business, but Nachtel isn't an admin (at least not that I know of) or owner of an event, and you just gotta accept some people in this world are greedy bitches.
5.) It's not skill, its the ability to work together as a team. I'm guessing whenever one of the regiments you listed as skill wise gets 2 specialties or 1 specialty and a line they communicate to be effective unlike the other team or normal line regiments.
6.) Who are some of these regiments?
7.) Humans aren't perfect, that's all the logic needed.
8.) Community is dying cause boredom or regimental drama, not because of corruption.
9.) Every event is different, are you implying that all events have the same issues? If so that's retarded because different situations happen each event.
10.) Putting big line regiments on a team is actually a disadvantage, cause you get shot to pieces by every single fucking enemy player.
11.) Pretty sure you're referring to my past events from months ago, cause I don't host anything anymore. Only person that hosts in my regiment is Chase, and his NaS events are fucking killer!
12.) Intent of this thread was good. There have been a lot of corrupt admins in the past and it definitely needs to be addressed, but its not happening to my knowledge atm so point missed :/
13.) If you and your regiment got banned for tking that's fucking sad and you deserve to die, cause it ruins the event for your team and gives admins a headache. Control your men better or get out.
14.) Why am I taking the time to write these points? Imma go masturbate
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: OG_Hawkeye on June 12, 2020, 04:58:30 am
When you have one of the most trolly regiments in the game that can't even keep a reg name for more than a month at a time or even end an event with less than 20 tks...you really can't think you'll be taken seriously can you? This is just funny lol

The majority of admins are legit and follow the rules and enforce them to the best of their abilities. It is in fact a crap job, and the majority would rather play the game, but end up being the admin so others can enjoy it. I'd love to see you try to skill and number balance with NW being in the poor state of attendance as it currently is. Then as for specs, they're given out on a first come first serve basis on the forums...like they have been for several years now....nothing new there.

Then this admin monopoly you seem to talk about....there are only a few people who are willing to admin anymore, and the few who do so now have proven to run solid events...which is why they still do it. Also, people have been trying to buy specs for years...some successfully [ie Les is More], and that has been frowned upon as the scummiest thing an admin can do.

Yes, there have been several people who have wanted to help admin...and their performances as admin and the toll it took on the events is exactly why they don't do it anymore lol

And finally....maybe if you took your regiment as seriously as you seem to take the current affairs of the admins and the current event politics, maybe you would enjoy yourself more lol
After all, the admins don't control your regiment, they just enforce the rules that you guys constantly break

This game has been on its last legs for quite a while now, and it is clear that the end could be sooner than people think. So try to have some fun with it before it's done for good...it is a game after all.

P.s. why isn't Xethos listed? lmao
All hail the true Monarch of NW

Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: DivineRuler on June 12, 2020, 05:07:59 am
This is just my little chip in this. I get where you're coming from but at the same time admining hasn't changed much over the past four years. No admin is perfect, they literally can't see everything that goes on and can't see every single line that may FOC especially if there's only one or two admins in spec, Yes they will see some and slay right away but dude come on lay off it.
About specs it was obvious that Nachtel was joking, also every regiment that gets specs sign-up on the thread. They're the first to post that's nothing new.

Also the current admins are admins and hosters because they've done it the longest and have the most experience hosting weekly events. If you message them with people in mind to start admining they'll accept. I offered new people to join and some did, they just didn't stick with it.

I second this as I’ve hosted basically 4 events a week before
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: DivineRuler on June 12, 2020, 05:09:33 am
I'm not corrupt :D~ I've been running events since 2014

Also... not sure about moraine being corrupt  :D but can confirm he’s ran plenty of events. Even if they shit XD jk
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Hess on June 12, 2020, 05:14:01 am
Here are my thoughts. (They probably don't matter, but it'd be nice to hear me out)

1. Admining is a shitty job no one really wants to do.

2. The 88th from what I have seen and heard, have a reputation of being troublesome in events. (Whether it be TK, mass rule breaking, banter, etc.) Admins would rather not have to deal with this consistently.

3. Specialties play too big of a part in events. Simple math proves this, 16 skirmishers+16 cavalry+10-16 artillery is about 45-50 people which is 50 percent of a 100 man team. Smaller events make this worse as for instance in a 60v60-70v70 you get about 10-20 dedicated line infantry if spec limits aren't lowered. Give incentives for line to actually fight instead of camping for 15 minutes until all charge.

4. Some events do a good job with admining and others don't. To categorize all events with the same issues is kinda dumb. Some more specific issues would be better.

5. Kudos to those who have actually stuck with admining and can deal with everyone's shit. Admins aren't perfect, but I believe they genuinely try to make events enjoyable.

6. Regiments who get the same specialties week after week do it because they signup before everyone else does.

7. Bribing for specialties is a scumbag thing to do and always will be.

8. Where is Xethos on this admin list?

9. I have seen some corrupt admins in the past, but I believe that most if not all have been dealt with.

10. Events lack a lot of teamwork and people are more concerned with doing their own thing rather than working together.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Rutger Müller on June 12, 2020, 05:15:15 am
you could host an event and show everyone what a real man's event looks like
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: [Stryker] on June 12, 2020, 05:20:08 am
you could host an event and show everyone what a real man's event looks like
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: NickyJ on June 12, 2020, 05:24:06 am
I got listed before Jetch in the LIR section, and 3rd overall. I feel so validated.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Moraine on June 12, 2020, 05:25:29 am
I got listed before Jetch in the LIR section, and 3rd overall. I feel so validated.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Glenn on June 12, 2020, 05:25:59 am
ah yes I am about to return to the casual scene for some time and this is what I return to. 84th disbanded goodbye
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 12, 2020, 05:34:35 am
Glenn's quitting before we starting smh. Glenn you're kicked from the reg
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Stroke0fd34th on June 12, 2020, 05:37:20 am
Fuck I’ll let you play specs for $10

+1

$10 play whatever spec you want
$15 go over the spec limit
$20 I'll throw all the OP reg's on your team
$25 I'll spawn in holy hand grenades for you
$30 Spawn in holy hand grenades and give god mode

ez
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Glenn on June 12, 2020, 05:38:23 am
Glenn's quitting before we starting smh. Glenn you're kicked from the reg

This is what you wanted from the start
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: NickyJ on June 12, 2020, 05:53:36 am
Someone should tell Getty that Byron removed his admin on Saturdays. Diadem too. Actually, don't tell him, now the slur bans will be gone for good.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: ~NickCole~ on June 12, 2020, 05:55:36 am
Can we change shitty rules like letting cav stay mounted on all charges or not letting every specialty available be fulled when there isn't more then 120 people at a event?
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: [Stryker] on June 12, 2020, 05:56:40 am
Fuck I’ll let you play specs for $10

+1

$10 play whatever spec you want
$15 go over the spec limit
$20 I'll throw all the OP reg's on your team
$25 I'll spawn in holy hand grenades for you
$30 Spawn in holy hand grenades and give god mode

ez
Please host, lord and saviour
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: BabyJesus on June 12, 2020, 06:19:45 am
Fuck I’ll let you play specs for $10

+1

$10 play whatever spec you want
$15 go over the spec limit
$20 I'll throw all the OP reg's on your team
$25 I'll spawn in holy hand grenades for you
$30 Spawn in holy hand grenades and give god mode

ez
ill do all this for $10. no need to get greedy
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Pickle on June 12, 2020, 06:26:37 am
imma host an event and run it like I ran na gf
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: |Viper| on June 12, 2020, 06:31:18 am
always love pub reg drama, thanks for the laugh.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: SirBeef on June 12, 2020, 06:32:42 am
a lot of y'all are missing the whole point of this post. you can attack my regiment all you want, fuck, they need it lmao. i try to tell them to calm down but in the end its just a game. thats not the point here. this post is not for my own health, but for every other regiment that isnt too represented in the community. i know that the admins have been doing it for a while, and i understand that you may have the experience, but there are plenty of other people that are able to do so. i know people offer their help and its turned down, im not blind to it. in order to keep things fair, it should be considered that we let other reg leaders admin to keep it as fair as possible. more admins in rotation means more people getting their chance at making the game as fair as possible. not saying firing the admins or not letting them admin, because after all they are somewhat decent at what they do, just bring more people into the picture
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: 13thFL_Terico_Mayhem on June 12, 2020, 06:38:12 am
a lot of y'all are missing the whole point of this post. you can attack my regiment all you want, fuck, they need it lmao. i try to tell them to calm down but in the end its just a game. thats not the point here. this post is not for my own health, but for every other regiment that isnt too represented in the community. i know that the admins have been doing it for a while, and i understand that you may have the experience, but there are plenty of other people that are able to do so. i know people offer their help and its turned down, im not blind to it. in order to keep things fair, it should be considered that we let other reg leaders admin to keep it as fair as possible. more admins in rotation means more people getting their chance at making the game as fair as possible. not saying firing the admins or not letting them admin, because after all they are somewhat decent at what they do, just bring more people into the picture
I vote pedro as the next admin.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: SirBeef on June 12, 2020, 06:49:02 am
you were banned Wednesday because you couldn't control your regiment from TKing each other lol

how come it took this post for y'all to tell me that then?
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Ginga Josh on June 12, 2020, 06:49:19 am
a lot of y'all are missing the whole point of this post. you can attack my regiment all you want, fuck, they need it lmao. i try to tell them to calm down but in the end its just a game. thats not the point here. this post is not for my own health, but for every other regiment that isnt too represented in the community. i know that the admins have been doing it for a while, and i understand that you may have the experience, but there are plenty of other people that are able to do so. i know people offer their help and its turned down, im not blind to it. in order to keep things fair, it should be considered that we let other reg leaders admin to keep it as fair as possible. more admins in rotation means more people getting their chance at making the game as fair as possible. not saying firing the admins or not letting them admin, because after all they are somewhat decent at what they do, just bring more people into the picture

you bring up a valid point (corruption). but how can we take you seriously when you cant even control your regiment? you were banned because you cant control your trolls end of story. don't tell me how to run my events until you fix your own problems.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: [Stryker] on June 12, 2020, 06:53:40 am
a lot of y'all are missing the whole point of this post. you can attack my regiment all you want, fuck, they need it lmao. i try to tell them to calm down but in the end its just a game. thats not the point here. this post is not for my own health, but for every other regiment that isnt too represented in the community. i know that the admins have been doing it for a while, and i understand that you may have the experience, but there are plenty of other people that are able to do so. i know people offer their help and its turned down, im not blind to it. in order to keep things fair, it should be considered that we let other reg leaders admin to keep it as fair as possible. more admins in rotation means more people getting their chance at making the game as fair as possible. not saying firing the admins or not letting them admin, because after all they are somewhat decent at what they do, just bring more people into the picture

you bring up a valid point (corruption). but how can we take you seriously when you cant even control your regiment? you were banned because you cant control your trolls end of story. don't tell me how to run my events until you fix your own problems.
Exactly, it's an issue with credibility. The issue with having every reg leader having admin is that some regimental leaders are biased to their own regiments, which in turn leads to arguments, then event breaking, basically giving everyone a headache. I'd be fine with bringing more people into the picture but they'd have to be willing, competent, and morally a good person like the majority of the admins are rn.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Yoshiee on June 12, 2020, 07:03:03 am
this shit been going for years bringing this up in 2020 is so worthless
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Superb_Pedro on June 12, 2020, 08:50:24 am
this shit been going for years bringing this up in 2020 is so worthless
your opinion too

 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: HuntehPetros on June 12, 2020, 08:58:30 am
this shit been going for years bringing this up in 2020 is so worthless
your opinion too

 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Yoshiee on June 12, 2020, 10:28:46 am
this shit been going for years bringing this up in 2020 is so worthless
your opinion too

 8) 8) 8) 8)
talk to me when u can afford ur own server idiot.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Glenn on June 12, 2020, 10:52:38 am
this shit been going for years bringing this up in 2020 is so worthless
your opinion too

 8) 8) 8) 8)
talk to me when u can afford ur own server idiot.

Ayo wasn’t the 40th going to move into the LG ts at one point
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Lord_Byron on June 12, 2020, 10:53:07 am
in reality i think a further point of admins playing the game instead of admining, that shouldnt be the case, in order to effectivly admin, you should remain in spec for the duration of the event, thats why the majority of the admins are seen as biased, maybe its not inherantly the admins themselves. Think about it realistically, an admin who is leading a regiment can only effectivly admin the event FOR THEIR OWN regiment. while i disagree with some admins and their choices, i couldnt realistically throw all admins under the bus.

Face the facts, this community is at the brink as it is, im all for a friendly meme between regiments, but surely now is not a time to be at each others throats, surely now is the time to fully address this issue since many know it as an issue. This could potentially be an opportunity for the larger regiments to take responsibility and using their influence in the community to do good. This community will fail without the smaller regiment, the same is true if the larger regiments left.

For us to even begin to prolong this community or even start to rebuild it, we should be coming together as a community. im all for hosting some type of group meeting, where EVERY regiment should come to discuss NW Events, without the animosity, and without the drama. You can know me for causing all the drama you know of, but now is the time to grow up, for myself, and for everyone else who complains without taking action.

We are capable of bringing this community back together. it wont be easy and we all know it, but all you need to do is take a look at NaS. it died, it was deadder than dead, but now? its making a come back beacause people are passionate about it. people work together to make it work, and it has worked. so why are we not doing the same for NW? Why is it such a farfetched idea for regiment leaders to come together in this hour of need, to fix the ONE thing killing NW? i know i'd be willing to put aside my rivalries and grudges for the game, i would only hope everyone else would share this sentiment. So, lets get working on that meeting.

TL;DR

Its not the admins that play in game that are at fault, its the communities fault for not coming together, i call for a meeting between all leaders, large or small, we're all at fault in some way, so its all of our problem, and all of our responsibility to fix it
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Jazzcommander on June 12, 2020, 11:04:29 am
I feel honored that you think I host events, must remember me hosting 3+ years ago for North and South! I rocked those Sunday events!
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: HuntehPetros on June 12, 2020, 11:35:22 am
in reality i think a further point of admins playing the game instead of admining, that shouldnt be the case, in order to effectivly admin, you should remain in spec for the duration of the event, thats why the majority of the admins are seen as biased, maybe its not inherantly the admins themselves. Think about it realistically, an admin who is leading a regiment can only effectivly admin the event FOR THEIR OWN regiment. while i disagree with some admins and their choices, i couldnt realistically throw all admins under the bus.

Face the facts, this community is at the brink as it is, im all for a friendly meme between regiments, but surely now is not a time to be at each others throats, surely now is the time to fully address this issue since many know it as an issue. This could potentially be an opportunity for the larger regiments to take responsibility and using their influence in the community to do good. This community will fail without the smaller regiment, the same is true if the larger regiments left.

For us to even begin to prolong this community or even start to rebuild it, we should be coming together as a community. im all for hosting some type of group meeting, where EVERY regiment should come to discuss NW Events, without the animosity, and without the drama. You can know me for causing all the drama you know of, but now is the time to grow up, for myself, and for everyone else who complains without taking action.

We are capable of bringing this community back together. it wont be easy and we all know it, but all you need to do is take a look at NaS. it died, it was deadder than dead, but now? its making a come back beacause people are passionate about it. people work together to make it work, and it has worked. so why are we not doing the same for NW? Why is it such a farfetched idea for regiment leaders to come together in this hour of need, to fix the ONE thing killing NW? i know i'd be willing to put aside my rivalries and grudges for the game, i would only hope everyone else would share this sentiment. So, lets get working on that meeting.

TL;DR

Its not the admins that play in game that are at fault, its the communities fault for not coming together, i call for a meeting between all leaders, large or small, we're all at fault in some way, so its all of our problem, and all of our responsibility to fix it
absolutely agreed on the last few points but regarding the first one re spec admins: I think you'd be hard pressed to find an admin who'd honestly rather spec admin than play the actual game. I've tried it, and reffing 1v1s too, but it's truthfully not too fun at least when compared to actually playing. And when those spec admins have their own regiments but can't actually play with them because they need to sit in spec and be on the lookout for occasional rulebreakers, I feel that just creates strain and isn't very good for their regiment overall. At what point would it stop being a fun hobby and more an unpaid job which separates them from their own community?

Maybe a potential solution would be to recruit more admins from the leaders of regiments and have them sit in spec for a round during an event on a rotational basis? So that there will always be a few admins in spec but at the same time will allow other admins to play for most of an event?
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: HuntehPetros on June 12, 2020, 12:04:25 pm
absolutely agreed on the last few points but regarding the first one re spec admins: I think you'd be hard pressed to find an admin who'd honestly rather spec admin than play the actual game. I've tried it, and reffing 1v1s too, but it's truthfully not too fun at least when compared to actually playing. And when those spec admins have their own regiments but can't actually play with them because they need to sit in spec and be on the lookout for occasional rulebreakers, I feel that just creates strain and isn't very good for their regiment overall. At what point would it stop being a fun hobby and more an unpaid job which separates them from their own community?

Maybe a potential solution would be to recruit more admins from the leaders of regiments and have them sit in spec for a round during an event on a rotational basis? So that there will always be a few admins in spec but at the same time will allow other admins to play for most of an event?

Err i tryed to do a rotating admin aswell for siege even brought it up ta everyone during our very first meeting. you know what they said that would be to confusing on who actually host and would feel like to much of a mess in enforcing whoever hosting that events rules since its not there own.since different admins do different stuff. And that isn’t that the reason y we kicked moraine out of sunday? Cause i was hosting under someone elsses rules.. ~sorry moraine love you tho ~so i find rotating hosts stupid if that what your meaning with an side kick admin that changes every time.

And For having adding more admins that aint a reg leader or officer or some formal experience in leading or admining. I pefer to have someone who knows what there doing and can trust to do it right..then trying to train a whole bunch of new admins and getting asked millions of questions. Maybe one or two questions to make sure. but basically fill the cup to much it will eventually start to spill over. And cause a mess.
And sure i would love to play with my reg during the siege try out the maps but thats what i signed up for to host an event so its my responsibility to see it through. Sure i would let nickyj or midnight host whenever they feel like since there co-hosts and only rarely do i ask them to host cause I don’t feel like it. think last one was few months ago??  Don’t really remember
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ not sure what else to suggest then
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: CorpsNDog on June 12, 2020, 01:52:31 pm
 :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :o :o :o- Byron you wouldn't talk to me because I chose not to join your reg that split off when I was nothing but nice to you lol. Why should anyone believe what you say about working together and you growing up when you're insanely petty all the time and always out for drama? I feel like you just want to create more drama where you can. You're right about the admins though, they need to be in spectator mode whether they like it or not. If they can't handle not playing then they should stick to playing or not admin. Maybe just

- MAKE A LIST OF GOOD MAPS SO YOU DON'T KEEP WASTING EVERYBODY'S TIME GOING THROUGH THEM. IF ITS TOO HARD THEN LET ME GO THROUGH THEM. YOUVE HAD YEARS TO DO THIS

- I mostly want to say that Xethos sucks so bad at being an admin. Most of the time I deserve to be kicked by every admin but he's the one I see abuse his powers the most. He's kicked me and plenty of others for no reason a few times when we weren't breaking the rules or anything and I was being at my best behavior. I assume it's just him abusing his powers again to make room for friends instead of being fair. Moraine, Copot, and Kitty also suck.

- PLEASE KEEP SHROOMS AWAY FROM BEING AN ADMIN. I WILL SERIOUSLY PAY HIM NOT TO ADMIN. ID LIKE A GOFUNDME TYPE THING SET UP SO I CAN GET MONEY FROM OTHERS AND MYSELF TO PAY HIM TO LEAVE. IM SURE OTHERS HAVE HAD WAY BETTER EXPERIENCES WITH HIM GONE TOO SO PLEASE HELP ME MAKE THIS DREAM POSSIBLE.
 >:( >:( >:( >:( :-[ :-[ :-[ :'( :'( :-X 8)
- WHERE DID BBG COMMANDER BATTLE GO? IM SICK OF PLAYING WITH TURKS AND ASIANS

- Like Mayhem said, make Pedro an admin.

- Also a summary of what a lot of the admins have basically said, " Poor me. It's so hard to be an admin for one hour of the day. Nobody is perfect so hopefully that's a good enough excuse for easily fixable mistakes I'm too lazy to fix. I'm going to deflect the questions because you do other bad things too I just don't want to take responsibility.
- Pretty much everyone I've met so far on this game are such pathetic morons on the game and irl I can feel myself becoming a loser every second I spend here.

- Please let us do our own thing for one event. Normal rules and everything but admins can only switch maps and simple stuff like that. I know us retards can do better on our own than with your help.
 ;) ??? 8) ::) :P
- Badmins don't deserve a voice or an opinion

- Ban the 61e and specifically Macbeth from events becuase they love to stall when they can. No one wants to watch the 61e circle around a few guys for 3 minutes and struggle to get a single kill. I might be wrong about the cav regiment name but four of us in the 13thFL wiped out the 61e three rounds in a row and I think we only had 3 deaths those rounds. You suck. Don't play cavalry again

- It's 5 in the morning so I don't even really know hat im talking
about anymore.

2ndSG / 13thFL 4EVA <3 >:( ??? ::) :-* :o
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Xethos on June 12, 2020, 02:47:52 pm
I wish I could get in on this corruption :(
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Shrooms on June 12, 2020, 04:15:58 pm
Btw not sure why im seriously replying to this but whatever. I have accepted just about every admin that has asked to be one and I will give them a chance to do well. Also we used to do constant custom maps but it gets boring so now I do some randoms and some customs. Also it would be nice if everyone followed the rules and thus wouldn't need admins. Which is odd that your bringing this up since your reg seems to cause a lot of issues during every event.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Eamon on June 12, 2020, 04:16:52 pm
THIS JUST CONFIRMS that the 6te had the best admins
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: David_Schrein on June 12, 2020, 04:29:21 pm
Shadey is a corrupt admin
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: No0B on June 12, 2020, 04:30:39 pm
I know that some regiments like the 65y, just don't really want to there members to admin or who knows who will admin for them, I talked to Ranthus(leader of 65y NA) and he thought that non of his guys could admin. This may have changed since 6ish Months ago but this proofs the point.Also some Regiments shouldn't have admin, for example the 2LBI, I used to lead them 1-2ish years ago back when they pulled a avg of 12 attendance instead of 3-5ish Lmao but they are a bunch of dudes just trying to have a good time (and troll a bit). Also if we're talking about Corrupt admins you should of seen us NRP NA campgain admins lmao Broke would slay mother fuckers for taking his Cannon, But I guess people liked us since even after the event would end, Us and like 2 other NRP NA admins, would run Minigames, till 1-2am almost everytime I was there. So admins can be corrupt and people can still have fun.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Copot on June 12, 2020, 06:36:31 pm

- I mostly want to say that Xethos sucks so bad at being an admin. Most of the time I deserve to be kicked by every admin but he's the one I see abuse his powers the most. He's kicked me and plenty of others for no reason a few times when we weren't breaking the rules or anything and I was being at my best behavior. I assume it's just him abusing his powers again to make room for friends instead of being fair. Moraine, Copot, and Kitty also suck.


You're still mad at me for freezing and teleporting you into the wall for team hitting during the siege, aren't you?
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Pickle on June 12, 2020, 06:50:40 pm
Anyone contact me if your regiment would be interested in attending an event hosted by me.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: BabyJesus on June 12, 2020, 07:36:23 pm
Anyone contact me if your regiment would be interested in attending an event hosted by me.
contacted
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Aurum on June 12, 2020, 07:39:39 pm
turn on ur bodycams admins
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Pinoy12 on June 12, 2020, 08:05:31 pm
turn on ur bodycams admins
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: sidney crosby on June 12, 2020, 08:35:23 pm
how bout u go an fuck off my comment then u peice of shit u think I need a stupid fuckwitt like u telling me about looking good who the fuck are u take your worthless advice and get the fuck out of here
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Jazzcommander on June 12, 2020, 08:47:58 pm
I wish I could get in on this corruption :(
Wanna become corrupt together?
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: NickyJ on June 12, 2020, 08:49:05 pm
Thinking about this some more, there have been several regiments that I've contacted about making their members admins, specifically because they are neutral parties who have NEVER gotten into stupid controversies. They turned down the admin positions, and they did that because they knew that the moment they take any action, they'd get people whining and targeting their regiments. Like this thread lol.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: SirBeef on June 12, 2020, 09:03:05 pm
Thinking about this some more, there have been several regiments that I've contacted about making their members admins, specifically because they are neutral parties who have NEVER gotten into stupid controversies. They turned down the admin positions, and they did that because they knew that the moment they take any action, they'd get people whining and targeting their regiments. Like this thread lol.

not really trying to target, more trying to bring an issue to light that i feel is just something we have to deal with. i've tried to admin before, i've asked to, event when i wasn't a part of the regiment that i'm in now. still got turned down or no response on it.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: NickyJ on June 12, 2020, 09:32:25 pm
Fair enough, though it depends on the regiments you were in before as well. If it was like the 88th, I wouldn't be too surprised at being turned down lol

Btw, you mentioned not wanting specs to be all by the same regiments. Now is a good time for you to fix that, considering there's a arty spot open at my event tonight. Then again, you've never asked for it before and I've had to roll with no cavalry or no artillery on one of the servers because people didn't want it. What would you propose to make regiments who don't want to play as specialties start wanting to play as specialties?
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: King_Macbeth on June 12, 2020, 10:09:56 pm
If you want, you can always host your own event. We still need a thursday host and 9PM EST for frid and sat would be good too
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: [Stryker] on June 12, 2020, 10:10:18 pm
Cancer thread that I'm too tired to read exactly, but I think it might be time to have a community reg rep meeting to discuss shit like this, but also solving event drama and beef
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Rutger Müller on June 12, 2020, 10:33:11 pm
Can we change shitty rules like letting cav stay mounted on all charges or not letting every specialty available be fulled when there isn't more then 120 people at a event?
this. Line only events or only 1 specialty allowed events are the most fun
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: [Stryker] on June 12, 2020, 10:36:47 pm
Can we change shitty rules like letting cav stay mounted on all charges or not letting every specialty available be fulled when there isn't more then 120 people at a event?
this. Line only events or only 1 specialty allowed events are the most fun
Not naming names but there are some regiments that don't like playing line to the point where they won't play the event if they don't have a specialty
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Sleek on June 12, 2020, 10:38:03 pm
Imagine doing pub events in 2020, they died in 2013 and should stay dead
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: [Stryker] on June 12, 2020, 10:38:44 pm
Imagine doing pub events in 2020, they died in 2013 and should stay dead
You just haven't found the right group to play pub events with
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: NickyJ on June 12, 2020, 10:39:14 pm
Can we change shitty rules like letting cav stay mounted on all charges or not letting every specialty available be fulled when there isn't more then 120 people at a event?
this. Line only events or only 1 specialty allowed events are the most fun
I'd love to have a line-only linebattle now and again. But the last time one was held, the event fell apart after a couple of weeks. Regiments that use specialties aren't able to be replaced that easily, especially when the one event for the night can't break 150 attendance. Speaking as a host with 2 servers on one night, I don't want to mess with the formula of an event that people currently want to go to.

Not naming names but there are some regiments that don't like playing line to the point where they won't play the event if they don't have a specialty
Exactly this. I won't deny that the LIR is sometimes guilty of this when it isn't one of the events that we always attend.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: DivineRuler on June 12, 2020, 11:39:09 pm
Can we change shitty rules like letting cav stay mounted on all charges or not letting every specialty available be fulled when there isn't more then 120 people at a event?
this. Line only events or only 1 specialty allowed events are the most fun
I'd love to have a line-only linebattle now and again. But the last time one was held, the event fell apart after a couple of weeks. Regiments that use specialties aren't able to be replaced that easily, especially when the one event for the night can't break 150 attendance. Speaking as a host with 2 servers on one night, I don't want to mess with the formula of an event that people currently want to go to.

Not naming names but there are some regiments that don't like playing line to the point where they won't play the event if they don't have a specialty
Exactly this. I won't deny that the LIR is sometimes guilty of this when it isn't one of the events that we always attend.

I don’t have a server but what if I did a line only event? Or maybe just allow lights and line?
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: SirBeef on June 12, 2020, 11:53:31 pm
Can we change shitty rules like letting cav stay mounted on all charges or not letting every specialty available be fulled when there isn't more then 120 people at a event?
this. Line only events or only 1 specialty allowed events are the most fun
Not naming names but there are some regiments that don't like playing line to the point where they won't play the event if they don't have a specialty

this is big facts ^^^^^
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: SirBeef on June 12, 2020, 11:55:45 pm
Cancer thread that I'm too tired to read exactly, but I think it might be time to have a community reg rep meeting to discuss shit like this, but also solving event drama and beef

lets make it happen then
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Pinoy12 on June 13, 2020, 12:03:03 am
how bout u go an fuck off my comment then u peice of shit u think I need a stupid fuckwitt like u telling me about looking good who the fuck are u take your worthless advice and get the fuck out of here
petrol pumping rat fuck
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Lord_Byron on June 13, 2020, 12:18:44 am
we need the larger regiments to come together with all the smaller regiments, 90% of us can see that this is only going to end in the game failing, and people leaving. if you have any pride in your regiments at all, then we all need to come together, have a meeting, and fix it.

the reality is that this game has been so heavily factionalised that its split us.
think about it, why would the community come together when the events are so split and factioned?
"Shrooms Saturday event"
"Moraines Wednesday event"
We let individual people do this, when if we all put the effort in and came together it could be
"NW Community Monday-Sunday Event"

Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Hess on June 13, 2020, 12:24:01 am
Problem is that specialties literally rule the event which it shouldn't be. Specialists should be specialists, not regulars. Some simple math will explain my point.

200 man server, 100 on each team.

You have 16 skirmishers, 16 cavalry, and 10-16 artillery. You have 42-48 people on specialties alone. Doesn't include regiments that break rules by going over the spec limit which happens regularly. This essentially creates half the team as specialists and half the team line infantry.

If you get lets say a 160-180 man event, with about 80-90 per team, the ratios get slightly worse. With about 30-40 line infantry per team assuming spec limits aren't lowered.

Anything less than this, lets say 120-140 man events will create a very broken and specialist driven event unless specialty limits are enacted. You get about 20-30 dedicated line infantry, its a joke, especially if regiments bring 15-20 line.

I notice in a lot of events where larger lines will camp behind hills the entire match until all charge because no one wants to line up alone and get shot to pieces since specialties are OP in numbers. Give incentives for line infantry to be line infantry and events may become more interesting again.

Edit: Even just playing 1 specialty or something per event would be a good alternative as well. Like lights/rifles only or something.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Xethos on June 13, 2020, 01:10:54 am
I wish I could get in on this corruption :(
Wanna become corrupt together?

Of course I do, who're we extorting first?

not really trying to target, more trying to bring an issue to light that i feel is just something we have to deal with. i've tried to admin before, i've asked to, event when i wasn't a part of the regiment that i'm in now. still got turned down or no response on it.

This triggered an ancient memory, so I went and looked. You're on Shrooms' whitelist, and have been for a long time. Don't know if you ever logged in with it. I only started saving event logs in January this year.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: SirBeef on June 13, 2020, 01:15:38 am


not really trying to target, more trying to bring an issue to light that i feel is just something we have to deal with. i've tried to admin before, i've asked to, event when i wasn't a part of the regiment that i'm in now. still got turned down or no response on it.

This triggered an ancient memory, so I went and looked. You're on Shrooms' whitelist, and have been for a long time. Don't know if you ever logged in with it. I only started saving event logs in January this year.
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i don't really remember that, and i def don't have the admin pass lmao. i'll get in touch with him and see if he wants to take me off/keep me on. don't want to accidentally get admin without him being aware of it
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Rhinosmyth on June 13, 2020, 01:31:44 am
Whilst, on a personal level I hold little respect for SirBeef due to the amount of cancer, teamkilling and disbands/reforms/name changes that come from him and his regiment on a weekly basis, I actually think he has a point. And in the past whilst I have been quick to insult many admins (yannick, Xethos and Shrroms I appologise to for countless times telling them to kill themselves - I actually hold them in high regard for being good admins) I think most admins do it because they want to help out as it is a hard/boring job to simply watch a battle rather than play it and enjoy it.

I think with SirBeefs comment, this is hitting the NA side of the community harder than the EU side. NA side of the community is notably smaller and is only say 1 event which people can choose to go to on a particular day. The EU side however is larger and on weekends can see 2/3/4 different events, each about 70vs70, from different event hosts. I think this for the EU side provides a good basis whereas if you dislike 1 event, you can simply go to a different one, and allows for different regiments to play as different unit types. This unfortunately will not be achievable due to the limited size of the current NA community.

Instead what I see is this, there are 2 main people who actually own the event servers for NA events. Xethos and whoever owns the server for the Tuesday event. With Each having a load of admins. What might be a suggestion, is instead of expanding the admin use to more regiments, would be to infact limit the admin use further. Far too often, I see someone slain / revived by not the admin of the event, no, but someone who is on the enemy team and has admin. These decisions made by people with admin password undermine the admins ability to make a fair and impartial decision. Therefore I think the only way for the problem to be solved will be to;
a) Have more server hosts/variety of people having events on different days so we're not relying on same servers/same admins
b) Only people who are the admins of the event use admin powers - not some cunt who happens to have admin
c) Do what the sunday siege does whereas if you're a specialist slot one week, you can't be it the next, allowing some degree of rotation.

In an ideal world, NA community would be bigger and you can have like the EU has in some sort of free market for events where you can choose to go to the best one. Thats not the case, so these are my suggestions.

Sorry SirBeef for my initial comments. Thanks for bringing this up as I think although I wouldn't describe the admins as "Corrupt", I defiantly think something has to be changed.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: 87th Stonekiller on June 13, 2020, 01:35:38 am
Nickyj isn't corrupt how can someone so handsome be corrupt  :-*
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Getty on June 13, 2020, 01:36:15 am
This thread is based on a flawed premise and the information isn't even accurate.

There are issues yes, the ones listed here aren't the actual issues for the most part though. Why would anyone want to be an administrator these days exactly? To receive a bunch of abuse from troll regiments and ungrateful regiments who never show on time?
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: BabyJesus on June 13, 2020, 01:45:27 am
specialties are op?
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on June 13, 2020, 02:52:35 am
$10 is a deal
I think les used to have to pay more
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Theodin on June 13, 2020, 02:58:53 am
damn i thought fse was dead and then the casual community rolls in and saves our attention spans
thank you for your service mr beef
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Shrooms on June 13, 2020, 04:12:49 am
we need the larger regiments to come together with all the smaller regiments, 90% of us can see that this is only going to end in the game failing, and people leaving. if you have any pride in your regiments at all, then we all need to come together, have a meeting, and fix it.

the reality is that this game has been so heavily factionalised that its split us.
think about it, why would the community come together when the events are so split and factioned?
"Shrooms Saturday event"
"Moraines Wednesday event"
We let individual people do this, when if we all put the effort in and came together it could be
"NW Community Monday-Sunday Event"


Btw my event is not called Shrooms Saturday Event or anything with my name and same with the server. And again I accept most ppl for admin regardless of reg for the most part excluding some.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Watspoon on June 13, 2020, 04:41:55 am
I know I'm a bit late to the party and people are probably done with it, but please allow me to say a few words!

I think what Sir Beef has to say is pretty valid. I know a lot of people will disagree with me, especially some admins, a couple of whom I am good friends with. I am not going to be shouting anyone out in particular as I genuinely don't exactly believe it is anyone's fault to begin with.

Also, I know a lot of you guys think of this as a joke, as some of us saw at the event today, but just put on your listening cap for a second and view the event from the point of view of just an average ranker at an event,

In terms of the admining, I have noticed that there are generally no admins in spectator. This eventually leads to bias by the admins in favor of their own regiment. That is just basic psychology and there is not much you can really do about that. This applies to everyone, myself included. When I help admin on Saturday's, as I am so focused on playing and watching my regiment compared to other regiments, I really only am looking at the people we may be in melee with or shooting at. If one of those guys breaks a rule, then I will hurry to slay them. If one of my guys does the exact same thing, I have definitely looked the other way once or twice before. This is just how we are as humans and we've all done it before, maybe not as an admin, but definitely in our own lives. I would just like each admin reading this to try and  look at what I've written and see if you've done it yourself. If you find you have, good, because hopefully this will help you become a better admin. Also, there are some teams that do seem a lot more stacked than the other. Considering the teams that are considered "stacked" are the ones with the most admins, I think that if you had the power to be on a good team, what team would you be on, the good one or the bad one. As an admin, I don't think this is intentional. It is slightly from the aforementioned basic psychological issues we have such as bias (again, I'm not blaming anyone at all, you're all goodmins c:). If there is one admin picking teams as well, I can't exactly argue that all the regiments on the good team are placing themselves on that team. However, if the admin is putting these regiments on their side, it can become a bit of a problem, even if you are not intentionally stacking your team. It's just how it is.

Essentially, I am not saying that every admin should resign, or that they're terrible. I just think that each admin should try to be a bit more wary of who they are slaying. If you see another guy in your regiment break a rule, try your best to slay them. I know they're probably your friend, but just doing this will likely lead to an event in which more people are content or happy. Also, if possible, we should try and have admins in spec that have a more unbias opinion of regiments, meaning that they are not just slaying regiments they don't like. Of course, being bias is something that is always going to play a role in admining, and I think that even the best admins in NW likely have some form of bias, but just do your best.

:)

Thank you very much!
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Shrooms on June 13, 2020, 04:46:55 am
There are very few people who actually want to be spec admins btw trust me I want more.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Lord_Byron on June 13, 2020, 04:52:26 am
an admin is a responsibility, if your an admin, you should be spectating the event.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: [Stryker] on June 13, 2020, 04:56:33 am
an admin is a responsibility, if your an admin, you should be spectating the event.
Count for me how many people would rather spectate than be in the battle itself
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: BabyJesus on June 13, 2020, 05:02:22 am
an admin is a responsibility, if your an admin, you should be spectating the event.
easy to say when you don’t have to consistently do it
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Lord_Byron on June 13, 2020, 05:02:52 am
i know if i was an admin id sit in spec and admin
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: BabyJesus on June 13, 2020, 05:27:14 am
i know if i was an admin id sit in spec and admin
time to start begging people for admin then. i think you can get it for like $50
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Xethos on June 13, 2020, 06:03:22 am
a) Have more server hosts/variety of people having events on different days so we're not relying on same servers/same admins
b) Only people who are the admins of the event use admin powers - not some cunt who happens to have admin

I have event hosts set their own whitelists. The only person who has talked to me about a new event in the past six months or so was Bean, and he didn't follow up (I think he wanted me to take away somebody else's event, and I wouldn't do it). Every now and again, there's a clerical error, but pretty much everybody who has admin was deliberately whitelisted by the event host.

The fact that people rely on the same event hosts every night is more a consequence of there only being a couple of people who hate themselves enough to host than a consequence of every event but one using DaMonkey's box. I don't have an issue with other events using it.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 13, 2020, 06:14:41 am
a) Have more server hosts/variety of people having events on different days so we're not relying on same servers/same admins
b) Only people who are the admins of the event use admin powers - not some cunt who happens to have admin

I have event hosts set their own whitelists. The only person who has talked to me about a new event in the past six months or so was Bean, and he didn't follow up (I think he wanted me to take away somebody else's event, and I wouldn't do it). Every now and again, there's a clerical error, but pretty much everybody who has admin was deliberately whitelisted by the event host.

The fact that people rely on the same event hosts every night is more a consequence of there only being a couple of people who hate themselves enough to host than a consequence of every event but one using DaMonkey's box. I don't have an issue with other events using it.

I also have a bunch of free servers both Warlance and QIG(Now USHosting) If anyone is interested as well
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Cytiuz on June 13, 2020, 06:23:33 am
I personally think the quality of NA events is absolutely horrendous now. Servers are generally laggy, and have had issues. I am not as active in the Line Battle community as of recent years, but I can say how it is ran nowadays is absolutely scuffed, and boring to the brim. When I was running regiments that did Line Battles often I couldn't wait to get to the siege event in the week due to the lack of variety. Do I disagree with the matter of admins not necessarily doing there job correctly? yes, but it isn't always the admins fault. If you really want to fix the "Corrupt Admins" issue. Increase the quality of the events, and don't bicker about the quality of admins. I have gone through a few EU regiments and talked to some of the NA's that play there, and generally speaking they speak of how the NA community doesn't have variety, and events are stale, and often to much of something. I suggest having some Line only events more often, and try out a different type of gamemode. As of right now I see the events generally speaking all the same. A arty based and cav based event doesn't need to be the norm, and it would be better to conclude different types of events to get more types of groups involved. I know a good amount of the competitive community would love to play in Casual Line based events if they weren't always the same. A ton of the distaste the Competitive community has is the fact that they running on of the same type of event. You can always do 2v2s, 1v1s, 3v3s, Line only events, Naval, Conquest/Siege, Conquest. You can do anything with this game, but I don't think the issue is with "corrupt" admins. I just an increase in quality will resort in an increase in quality of just about everything.(note most of my insight is of my last occasion of really dedicating, I have no idea how events go now rather then just two or three I attend). Also note that if we do have a variety in eventing none of these events have a sustainable amount of regiments attending, unless its like siege. If people could gives some insight I would love to hear how people feel on this matter, or if they respectively disagree, or agree on what I have to say.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 13, 2020, 06:27:02 am
To give a list of servers I have open.

5 100 slot (4 Warlance, 1 QIG(ushosting))
3 200 slot (2 Warlance, 1 QIG(ushosting))

I can arrange for more if needed!
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: ~NickCole~ on June 13, 2020, 06:44:35 am
I agree 100% with Cytiuz that NA casual events are straight up boring because you do the same event 3-4 times a week without many options. For some reason whether regs that never play line or the fact that people hate change is the reason why everytime someone tries to host a new event, it fails to get many signups. I do agree admining a regular event is boring af so you need to give credit to admins that are willing to sit in spec to admin events. It’s not easy trying to admin 200 players with just a few admins. Especially nowadays since you have constant rule breaking whether it’s on purpose or not. My last point is why the actual fuck do we not make Cav dismount on all charges? It seems like majority of the events I go to when an all charge is called you have fucking 10-12 cav players on each team running around still alive at the end just circling for what seem like hours. There is a reason past events made them dismount instead of letting them stay mounted. I rather end the round in 3 mins making everyone dismount and on foot then having to watch a bunch of pussies on cav circle everyone for 10 mins taking their time to kill people. My point is that making cav dismount saves more time then when they are mounted.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Pickle on June 13, 2020, 06:51:07 am
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=44183.0

Take a look at the event I will start running soon.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Danger Powers on June 13, 2020, 07:21:08 am
an admin is a responsibility, if your an admin, you should be spectating the event.
Count for me how many people would rather spectate than be in the battle itself
I dont think he can count tbh
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Niko5557 on June 13, 2020, 08:38:37 am
NW drama alert.
Youtube video on NW event admins exposed when?
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: HuntehPetros on June 13, 2020, 08:39:50 am
an admin is a responsibility, if your an admin, you should be spectating the event.
Count for me how many people would rather spectate than be in the battle itself
I dont think he can count tbh
gottem
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Glenn on June 13, 2020, 09:15:58 am
I agree 100% with Cytiuz that NA casual events are straight up boring because you do the same event 3-4 times a week without many options. For some reason whether regs that never play line or the fact that people hate change is the reason why everytime someone tries to host a new event, it fails to get many signups. I do agree admining a regular event is boring af so you need to give credit to admins that are willing to sit in spec to admin events. It’s not easy trying to admin 200 players with just a few admins. Especially nowadays since you have constant rule breaking whether it’s on purpose or not. My last point is why the actual fuck do we not make Cav dismount on all charges? It seems like majority of the events I go to when an all charge is called you have fucking 10-12 cav players on each team running around still alive at the end just circling for what seem like hours. There is a reason past events made them dismount instead of letting them stay mounted. I rather end the round in 3 mins making everyone dismount and on foot then having to watch a bunch of pussies on cav circle everyone for 10 mins taking their time to kill people. My point is that making cav dismount saves more time then when they are mounted.

ah yes the infamous cav camp until all charge then they finally appear from behind the hill
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: SirBeef on June 13, 2020, 11:08:18 pm
There are very few people who actually want to be spec admins btw trust me I want more.

i would do that in a heartbeat. i think there should be at least 2 or 3 spec admins mandatory and some in game ones
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Getty on June 14, 2020, 12:03:42 am
There are very few people who actually want to be spec admins btw trust me I want more.

i would do that in a heartbeat. i think there should be at least 2 or 3 spec admins mandatory and some in game ones

That's not going to happen with anyone of quality unless you literally pay them.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Xethos on June 14, 2020, 03:36:26 am
i would do that in a heartbeat.

Sounds to me like you want to start a second Saturday event! Give me the word and a whitelist and I'll set it up.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Pickle on June 14, 2020, 03:43:49 am
i would do that in a heartbeat.

Sounds to me like you want to start a second Saturday event! Give me the word and a whitelist and I'll set it up.
Let's Go.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: |Viper| on June 14, 2020, 04:43:23 am
Simple points to make linebattles fun again (in my opinion at least):

- Don't have the same normal linebattle every day of the week... change it up a bit (Pickle's event is a good example of this)

- Get rid of the laggy ass servers (I know 150-200 man events can be laggy but the servers now a days are a lot worse imo)

- Actually have competent admins/hosters (I'm throwing this in because I hear this a lot from different people)

- New maps! This would actually improve your attendance a lot I believe. Get some custom maps with fires, broken buildings, trenches etc... make it interesting!

- And finally dumb rules like the cavalry rule NickCole stated earlier.

Again this is just my opinion. I like public events but you need to spice it up just a tad^
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Lord_Byron on June 14, 2020, 04:58:52 am
we need new events backed by the community instead of backed by a single person, community chosen admins instead of the people with the largest regiments
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 14, 2020, 05:49:24 am
- Get rid of the laggy ass servers (I know 150-200 man events can be laggy but the servers now a days are a lot worse imo)

Oh yes let me just fix the server hosters machine. It's the companies who run the servers not the fault of the event hosters. Not too many companies hosting nw servers that don't suck/cost a lot of money
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: |Viper| on June 14, 2020, 05:52:46 am
- Get rid of the laggy ass servers (I know 150-200 man events can be laggy but the servers now a days are a lot worse imo)

Oh yes let me just fix the server hosters machine. It's the companies who run the servers not the fault of the event hosters. Not too many companies hosting nw servers that don't suck/cost a lot of money
Change server provider???

What is question???  ??? ??? ??? Quality takes MONEY.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Kapow on June 14, 2020, 06:03:27 am
You useless piece of shit. You absolute waste of space and air. You uneducated, ignorant, idiotic dumb swine, you’re an absolute embarrassment to humanity and all life as a whole. The magnitude of your failure just now is so indescribably massive that one hundred years into the future your name will be used as moniker of evil for heretics. Even if all of humanity put together their collective intelligence there is no conceivable way they could have thought up a way to fuck up on the unimaginable scale you just did. When Jesus died for our sins, he must not have seen the sacrilegious act we just witnessed you performing, because if he did he would have forsaken humanity long ago so that your birth may have never become reality. After you die, your skeleton will be displayed in a museum after being scientifically researched so that all future generations may learn not to generate your bone structure, because every tiny detail anyone may have in common with you degrades them to a useless piece of trash and a burden to society. No wonder your father questioned whether or not your were truly his son, for you'd have to not be a waste of carbon matter for anyone to love you like a family member. Your birth made it so that mankind is worse of in every way you can possibly imagine, and you have made it so that society can never really recover into a state of organization. Everything has forever fallen into a bewildering chaos, through which unrecognizable core, you can only find misfortune. I would say the apocalypse is upon us but this is merely the closest word humans have for the sheer scale of horror that is now reality. You have forever condemned everyone you love and know into an eternal state of suffering, worse than any human concept of hell. You are such an unholy being, that if you step within a one hundred foot radius of a holy place or a place that has ever been deemed important by anyone, your distorted sac religious soul will ruin whatever meaning it ever had beyond repair. You are an idiotic, shiteating, dumbass ape and no one has ever loved you. You are a lying, backstabbing, cowardly useless piece of shit and I hate you with every single part of my being. Even this worlds finest writers and poets from throughout the ages could never hope to accurately describe the scale on which you just fucked up, and how incredibly idiotic you are. Anyone that believes in any religion out there should now realize that they have been wrong this entire time, for if divine beings were real, they would never have allowed a being such as you to stain the earth and this universe. In the future there will be horror stories made about you, with the scariest part of them being that the reader has to realize that such an indescribable monster actually exists, and that the horrific events from the movie have actually taken place in the same world that they live in right now. You are the absolute embodiment of everything that has ever been wrong on this earth, yet you manage to make it so that that is only a small part of the evil that is your being. Never in the history of mankind has there been anyone that could have predicted such an eldrich abomination, but here you are. It’s hard to believe that I am seeing such an incredible failure with my own eyes, but here I am, so unfortunately I cannot deny your existence. Even if I did my very best, my vocabulary is not able to describe the sheer magnitude of the idiotic mistake that is you. Even if time travel some day will be invented, there still would not be a single soul willing to go back in time to before this moment to fix history, because having to witness such incredible horrors if they failed would have to many mental and physical drawbacks that not even the bravest soul in history would be willing to risk it. I cannot imagine the pure dread your mother must have felt when she had to carry a baby for nine months and then giving birth to such a wretched monster as you. Not a single word of the incoherent, illogical rambling you may be wanting to do to defend yourself or apologize would ever be able to make up for what you just did. The countries of the world would have wanted to make laws preventing such a terrible event like this from ever happening again, but sadly this is not possible since your horrific actions just now have shattered every form of order this world once had, making concepts such as laws irrelevant. Right from the moment I first set my eyes on you I knew you were an absolute abomination of everything that is wrong with humanity. I was hoping I would have been able to prevent your evil from being released upon this world by tagging along and keeping my eye on you, but it is clear to me now that not even the greatest efforts would have been able to prevent a terrible event in this scale from occurring. You are the worst human being, or even just being in general, that I have ever had the misfortune of witnessing. Events like the infected plague apparently only happened with the goal of teaching humanity to survive such a horrible event as the one you just created, but not even mankind’s greatest trials were able to even slightly prepare anyone for the insufferable evil you have just created. If you ever had them, your children would be preemptively killed to protect this universe from the possibility of anyone in your bloodline being even half as bad as you are, except you will never be able to have children, because not a single human being will ever want to come within a hundred mile radius of you and anything you have ever touched. You are a colossal disappointment not only to your parents, but to your ancestors and entire bloodline. The disgusting mistake that you have just made is so incredibly terrible that everyone who would ever be to hear about it would spontaneously feel an indescribable mixture of immense anger, fear and anxiety that emotionally and physically they would never truly be the same ever again. The sheer scale of your mistake, if ever to be materialized, would not only surpass the size of the world, but it would reach far beyond the edges of the known, and almost certainly the unknown universe. I could sit here and write paragraphs, nay, books describing your immense failure, yet even if I were to dedicate my life to describing the reality of what has just gone down here, and I would spend every moment of it until my heart stops beating working as hard and efficiently as possible, yet there is not even a snowballs chance in hell that I would be able to come close to transcribing the absolute shitshow you have just released upon the world. You are an irresponsible, idiotic, disgusting, unloved, horrible excuse for a living being who’s soul contains less humanity than every ginger in history combined. The absolute disgust I feel when thinking about anything that has even a slight resemblance to anything that might have to do with you and your unholy actions is so incredibly great that when I am honest about it I think that even I do not posses a consciousness great enough to comprehend my own feelings about it. When people of Columbia fought to break free from Lungmen, countless soldiers fought and lost their lives in favor of a chance at a better future for their children, they did not give their lives to have you fuck the world up beyond repair to the degree that you are doing right now. Honestly, even when technology advances and studies on the subject become more and more accurate, I do not think humanity will ever truly be able to understand what your failure actually means for the universe. My hate for you and everything you stand for is so much deeper than the depths of Shambala that you could probably take the entire Lungmen population down there and back up around twenty million times before you would have sunk to the end of my hate, and honestly, I do not want to exaggerate, but I think that that insult was low balling it such a massive amount that all mountains in this world combined would not be able to stack up to this imprecise judgement in light of the fact that when being honest, my hate is almost certainly bottomless. There is no one in this world that has ever loved you, and especially after what you just did, no one will ever love you in the future either. There is no hope that your idiotic behavior and especially your crooked soul will ever change for the better, and in fact quite the opposite might be true. By making the mistake that you just did, you have shown me that you are so incredibly hopeless that you will only devolve into a more idiotic and wretched creature than you already are. The only possible way in which your future would be brighter than the black hole your existence currently is would exclusively be because there is absolutely no conceivable way that you would even be able to sink lower than the pathetic place your current failure has put you in. But than again, you are so incredibly abominable that you would probably be able to surpass the worst conceivable failure a living being could possibly make. You are so incredibly pathetic that you are honestly not worthy of any more of my words nor my time. Just know that I will forever detest you for your failure and everythi you stand for, and that no matter what happens, I will never ever forgive you.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Theodin on June 14, 2020, 06:17:18 am
thanks kapow, very cool!
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Pinoy12 on June 14, 2020, 06:38:25 am
thanks kapow, very cool!
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Xethos on June 14, 2020, 07:04:44 am
- Get rid of the laggy ass servers (I know 150-200 man events can be laggy but the servers now a days are a lot worse imo)

The server that we use for every day but Tuesday (except the N&S events) is a $120/month NFO box. It's a fairly robust server. It runs a TS and weekly Arma 3 sessions, and has been used for a variety of other games, all with no problems. It's a dedicated box, which means no slot system and no overbooking the server. You're not going to get much better than that.

The problem is that NW is a resource hog, moreso than it used to be, and the Warband engine was never made more efficient to handle it. The extra faction and the new scripts, while nice, didn't help performance at all. It still all uses one CPU core. The graphics engine is so wonky that new cards and drivers tend to produce worse performance. I can pretty much guarantee that, at least for the dedicated NFO box, most of the extra lag you get is because your client can no longer handle drawing 200 players.

Recently, we had an event where we discovered the hard cap on server capacity is 250. Some people lagged extremely hard, some didn't. My old laptop with its 650M didn't really lag much at all, but people with $1000 computers thought it was unplayable. Everybody blamed the server, but I'm more inclined to think people view their computers like people used to view their hot rods: totally infallible, evidence to the contrary be damned.

It is, more than ever, insanely easy to put pressure on any server because of how bad the networking engine is. Reviving and/or slaying everybody on a full server, for example, tends to massacre performance. Naturally, the first thing every single new admin does when they get the password is log on and revive everybody twenty times.

I have not had good experiences on Warlance or QIG servers since the last couple of updates. The lag on them, especially at or right after peak hours, is basically unplayable for me. Some people notice the difference, some don't.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Cytiuz on June 14, 2020, 07:21:41 am
- Get rid of the laggy ass servers (I know 150-200 man events can be laggy but the servers now a days are a lot worse imo)

The server that we use for every day but Tuesday (except the N&S events) is a $120/month NFO box. It's a fairly robust server. It runs a TS and weekly Arma 3 sessions, and has been used for a variety of other games, all with no problems. It's a dedicated box, which means no slot system and no overbooking the server. You're not going to get much better than that.

The problem is that NW is a resource hog, moreso than it used to be, and the Warband engine was never made more efficient to handle it. The extra faction and the new scripts, while nice, didn't help performance at all. It still all uses one CPU core. The graphics engine is so wonky that new cards and drivers tend to produce worse performance. I can pretty much guarantee that, at least for the dedicated NFO box, most of the extra lag you get is because your client can no longer handle drawing 200 players.

Recently, we had an event where we discovered the hard cap on server capacity is 250. Some people lagged extremely hard, some didn't. My old laptop with its 650M didn't really lag much at all, but people with $1000 computers thought it was unplayable. Everybody blamed the server, but I'm more inclined to think people view their computers like people used to view their hot rods: totally infallible, evidence to the contrary be damned.

It is, more than ever, insanely easy to put pressure on any server because of how bad the networking engine is. Reviving and/or slaying everybody on a full server, for example, tends to massacre performance. Naturally, the first thing every single new admin does when they get the password is log on and revive everybody twenty times.

I have not had good experiences on Warlance or QIG servers since the last couple of updates. The lag on them, especially at or right after peak hours, is basically unplayable for me. Some people notice the difference, some don't.
I mean then its the host? spending more doesn't always mean the quality is better. See if someone like Oasis is willing to do a higher quality server if payed down for more. I feel a quality server would really help, because it feels like in the recent years events have been way more laggy then usual. Who knows. I don't really blame the hoster of events for quality of servers, I just think we need to find a compromise with fixing the quality, cause it feels REAL janky.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Xethos on June 14, 2020, 07:38:48 am
I mean then its the host? spending more doesn't always mean the quality is better. See if someone like Oasis is willing to do a higher quality server if payed down for more. I feel a quality server would really help, because it feels like in the recent years events have been way more laggy then usual. Who knows. I don't really blame the hoster of events for quality of servers, I just think we need to find a compromise with fixing the quality, cause it feels REAL janky.

Those recent years happened after the patch that added Rheinbund and a whole lot of assets that there was never memory space for. There's a post by either Vincenzo or Olafson floating around something either here or on the Discord (I couldn't immediately find it) that basically said they could add a faction because of hardware improvement. The problem is that those hardware improvements were either irrelevant (things like better multicore processing, which doesn't affect single core Warband) or didn't happen.

Sharing a box from a new provider is not going to solve that problem. Even a miracle box wouldn't solve the clientside performance issues from a full server.

EDIT - I should also not neglect to mention that two patches ago, Taleworlds implemented a longer delay between when a person selecting their attack direction and when the packet was sent to the server. I have no doubt this also contributes to feeling lag. It's a hardcoded change, so there's nothing we can do about it and, again, present no matter what server you play on.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 14, 2020, 08:00:33 am
I've personally been really happy with Warlance and QIG. Granted I have a lot of servers from them now it is due to the quality.

I think the server that's used now for the events is great over all. Matter of opinion I guess
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: ibsocal on June 14, 2020, 02:49:36 pm
Im just saying is this game is like a week or two of no events removed from being left in the past until the clingers move on.. not that id ever suggest pulling the plug by boycotting hosting your events or anything.. that would be just so terrible, why would anyone want to stop volunteering their time for this grateful community? what would everyone even do with all their free time? just terrible really, couldnt even imagine it.


 ..anyway good luck, hope you guys figure it all out!
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Moraine on June 14, 2020, 03:59:36 pm
What a bunch of wasted time.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Kapow on June 14, 2020, 07:27:15 pm
https://youtu.be/V_Nr31Lv6H8
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Hawkince on June 28, 2020, 02:49:30 am
yikes
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Kristine on June 28, 2020, 02:51:05 am
disregard
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: BabyJesus on June 28, 2020, 03:26:06 am
yikes
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: JollyCanadian on June 28, 2020, 04:00:54 am
Lets try and keep the community together and not break it apart! They spend their time hosting event and they do well. Just because you think they don't doesn't mean they don't.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Moraine on June 28, 2020, 04:15:11 am
Lets try and keep the community together and not break it apart! They spend their time hosting event and they do well. Just because you think they don't doesn't mean they don't.
I don't think anyone genuinely cares about this post anymore lets not post so we can pretend it never existed because thats how relevant it was.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: ~NickCole~ on June 28, 2020, 04:29:30 am
Nice to see how retarded events are run nowadays when they are doing 3 specialties per team with 120 people on the server....
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Glenn on June 28, 2020, 04:31:24 am
Nice to see how retarded events are run nowadays when they are doing 3 specialties per team with 120 people on the server....

my most favorite part is when 10 more people join the server and they up the specialties to 12 cav and 12 skirms!
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Moraine on June 28, 2020, 05:48:44 am
Nice to see how retarded events are run nowadays when they are doing 3 specialties per team with 120 people on the server....

my most favorite part is when 10 more people join the server and they up the specialties to 12 cav and 12 skirms!
Neither have you have run casual events if your lives or if you have they haven't lasted long. Before I roast both of you "competitive" players I suggest you move along. Oh. And if you do reply nick don't RQ and delete everyone like usual when you start losing.
- Moraine
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Windflower on June 28, 2020, 06:06:39 am
Nice to see how retarded events are run nowadays when they are doing 3 specialties per team with 120 people on the server....

my most favorite part is when 10 more people join the server and they up the specialties to 12 cav and 12 skirms!
Neither have you have run casual events if your lives or if you have they haven't lasted long. Before I roast both of you "competitive" players I suggest you move along. Oh. And if you do reply nick don't RQ and delete everyone like usual when you start losing.
- Moraine
u sound like a literal blademaster
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Pinoy12 on June 28, 2020, 06:15:52 am
Nice to see how retarded events are run nowadays when they are doing 3 specialties per team with 120 people on the server....

my most favorite part is when 10 more people join the server and they up the specialties to 12 cav and 12 skirms!
lol
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Hawkince on June 28, 2020, 09:15:23 am
Nice to see how retarded events are run nowadays when they are doing 3 specialties per team with 120 people on the server....

my most favorite part is when 10 more people join the server and they up the specialties to 12 cav and 12 skirms!
Neither have you have run casual events if your lives or if you have they haven't lasted long. Before I roast both of you "competitive" players I suggest you move along. Oh. And if you do reply nick don't RQ and delete everyone like usual when you start losing.
- Moraine
u sound like a literal blademaster
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: sidney crosby on June 28, 2020, 09:35:31 am
Nice to see how retarded events are run nowadays when they are doing 3 specialties per team with 120 people on the server....

my most favorite part is when 10 more people join the server and they up the specialties to 12 cav and 12 skirms!
Neither have you have run casual events if your lives or if you have they haven't lasted long. Before I roast both of you "competitive" players I suggest you move along. Oh. And if you do reply nick don't RQ and delete everyone like usual when you start losing.
- Moraine
yea man don’t acknowledge their points just be a self-righteous dickhead about it. Since working 5 hours a week as a pub admin is your existence maybe the events would be a little better by now.

Cav still camps until all charge with still takes too long to get to anyway, if I die 2 minutes into the round why do I have to wait 10+ fucking minutes to play again? shit could be faster paced and much more enjoyable but weirdos like you care about your 5 hours of authority every week.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: ~NickCole~ on June 28, 2020, 05:21:07 pm
Nice to see how retarded events are run nowadays when they are doing 3 specialties per team with 120 people on the server....

my most favorite part is when 10 more people join the server and they up the specialties to 12 cav and 12 skirms!
Neither have you have run casual events if your lives or if you have they haven't lasted long. Before I roast both of you "competitive" players I suggest you move along. Oh. And if you do reply nick don't RQ and delete everyone like usual when you start losing.
- Moraine
yea man don’t acknowledge their points just be a self-righteous dickhead about it. Since working 5 hours a week as a pub admin is your existence maybe the events would be a little better by now.

Cav still camps until all charge with still takes too long to get to anyway, if I die 2 minutes into the round why do I have to wait 10+ fucking minutes to play again? shit could be faster paced and much more enjoyable but weirdos like you care about your 5 hours of authority every week.
I was just pointing out how stupid it is to have a shit ton of specialities with barely any lines at the event. It is called a “line” battle for a reason. Like oatmeal saids cav camps, skirms continue to abuse rules and arty guard half the time FoL when they aren’t near a cannon. I would start listening to us comp players instead of just being a dickhead since majority of us has been around long enough to recognize the changes that had made casual events boring. There is rarely custom maps, admins don’t slay enough and most casual regs forgot how to play line and bitch when they don’t get the specialty class they want. Moraine I’m not attacking your event I’m just trying to point out the flaws that casual events have nowadays.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: |Viper| on June 28, 2020, 05:30:54 pm
Nice to see how retarded events are run nowadays when they are doing 3 specialties per team with 120 people on the server....

my most favorite part is when 10 more people join the server and they up the specialties to 12 cav and 12 skirms!
Neither have you have run casual events if your lives or if you have they haven't lasted long. Before I roast both of you "competitive" players I suggest you move along. Oh. And if you do reply nick don't RQ and delete everyone like usual when you start losing.
- Moraine
My man just said you “comp players” 58e, 104th, LG, 3eVolt... you were in those (LG I’m 50/50). It’s not bad to take some criticism because honestly public events need it right now. I’m sure your events are fine, but don’t be a cock sucker about it.

We all started in public events with regiments when we first got into NW/regiments. It’s not like people are talking outta their ass.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Pinoy12 on June 28, 2020, 07:08:39 pm
Nice to see how retarded events are run nowadays when they are doing 3 specialties per team with 120 people on the server....

my most favorite part is when 10 more people join the server and they up the specialties to 12 cav and 12 skirms!
Neither have you have run casual events if your lives or if you have they haven't lasted long. Before I roast both of you "competitive" players I suggest you move along. Oh. And if you do reply nick don't RQ and delete everyone like usual when you start losing.
- Moraine
My man just said you “comp players” 58e, 104th, LG, 3eVolt... you were in those (LG I’m 50/50). It’s not bad to take some criticism because honestly public events need it right now. I’m sure your events are fine, but don’t be a cock sucker about it.

We all started in public events with regiments when we first got into NW/regiments. It’s not like people are talking outta their ass.
Remove the 104th from that list LMAOOO that's disrespectful to even put them in the same sentence with 3e, LG and 58e.
Also yes, we all started in pub regs.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Moraine on June 30, 2020, 12:39:24 am
Ahh baiting is so fun
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Hawkince on June 30, 2020, 01:33:45 am
Ahh baiting is so fun

"catches shit for being an idiot"

bAiTinG iS sO FuN
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Windflower on June 30, 2020, 01:53:32 am
Ahh baiting is so fun
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/6kGliTj_d.webp?maxwidth=728&fidelity=grand)
[close]
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Yoshiee on July 01, 2020, 12:50:29 am
Ahh baiting is so fun
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/6kGliTj_d.webp?maxwidth=728&fidelity=grand)
[close]
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Moraine on July 01, 2020, 06:07:59 am
 :D
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Argie on July 01, 2020, 10:13:19 am
we are not at the list :3
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: 61e Selic on July 02, 2020, 06:54:40 am
I just played a game of risk in tabletop simulator with Kingmacbeth and he was  a corrupt admin and kept removing me and nikos infantry and rerolling when he rolled bad
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: lindblom on July 04, 2020, 08:33:25 pm
Corrupt admins in NW? How dare you...


Nah jk, I can think of quite a few.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: King_Macbeth on July 06, 2020, 08:12:52 am
https://youtu.be/gVeL8QTDYo8
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: ~Midnight~ on July 16, 2020, 03:06:44 am
So glad I didn't make this list
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Argie on July 21, 2020, 02:53:23 pm
https://youtu.be/gVeL8QTDYo8


christ is this movie based on true events?
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: King_Macbeth on July 23, 2020, 06:55:52 am
https://youtu.be/gVeL8QTDYo8


christ is this movie based on true events?

this is raw footage of real life so yes
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Argie on July 24, 2020, 01:05:54 pm

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this is raw footage of real life so yes


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seems to be like a snuff film tho. that sex scene  tho will make you the money back.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: VincentW on September 09, 2020, 09:32:46 am
3.) If you have ever admined before you would know its an unforgiving job that nobody wants to fucking do.
8.) Community is dying cause boredom or regimental drama, not because of corruption.
9.) Every event is different, are you implying that all events have the same issues? If so that's retarded because different situations happen each event.
12.) Intent of this thread was good. There have been a lot of corrupt admins in the past and it definitely needs to be addressed, but its not happening to my knowledge atm so point missed :/
13.) If you and your regiment got banned for tking that's fucking sad and you deserve to die, cause it ruins the event for your team and gives admins a headache. Control your men better or get out.

Here are some points I can agree to as an EU event host myself.
Point 3 holds more truth for our event then for most events as our event is just hosted by 3 admins that are non-alligned to any regiment.
Although it is an unforgiving job and the community itself is slowly becoming more toxic and unwilling to follow any rules, we still like hosting it.

And isn't it only logical to have an open donation box (We do, but it won't get you a spec slot), keep in mind that us admins are tasked with buying a 200 slot server and maintaining it, we are not forcing anyone to pay us money, we just give people the oppertunity to show their support if they so desire.

This is all I am going to say about this for now as I think I made my point,

Regards,
VincentPW, Founding Host of the GGA Tuesday Linebattle Event.
Steam: [GGA] Vincent (https://steamcommunity.com/id/GGAVincent/)
Discord: VincentPW#2820

Edit: The point you make about FIC and FOL etc. is kind of missplaced, how can anyone expect an admin (Except barbarossa :) ) to see everything and everyone on the battlefield at the same time. I am not going to act on call outs from players, people can call FiC all they want but if I didnt see it, it could be that it didnt happen. As an admin, you work with extensive sampling and checks to figure out where things happen, the more admins you have, the more you can keep control over the situation, but in our case, we host the event with 2 dedicated admins and thats it. Also, have you ever seen the admintools when there are 200 men on the battlefield? It is really hard to spot anyone.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: General Shepherd on September 09, 2020, 01:57:55 pm
3.) If you have ever admined before you would know its an unforgiving job that nobody wants to fucking do.
8.) Community is dying cause boredom or regimental drama, not because of corruption.
9.) Every event is different, are you implying that all events have the same issues? If so that's retarded because different situations happen each event.
12.) Intent of this thread was good. There have been a lot of corrupt admins in the past and it definitely needs to be addressed, but its not happening to my knowledge atm so point missed :/
13.) If you and your regiment got banned for tking that's fucking sad and you deserve to die, cause it ruins the event for your team and gives admins a headache. Control your men better or get out.

Here are some points I can agree to as an EU event host myself.
Point 3 holds more truth for our event then for most events as our event is just hosted by 3 admins that are non-alligned to any regiment.
Although it is an unforgiving job and the community itself is slowly becoming more toxic and unwilling to follow any rules, we still like hosting it.

And isn't it only logical to have an open donation box (We do, but it won't get you a spec slot), keep in mind that us admins are tasked with buying a 200 slot server and maintaining it, we are not forcing anyone to pay us money, we just give people the oppertunity to show their support if they so desire.

This is all I am going to say about this for now as I think I made my point,

Regards,
VincentPW, Founding Host of the GGA Tuesday Linebattle Event.
Steam: [GGA] Vincent (https://steamcommunity.com/id/GGAVincent/)
Discord: VincentPW#2820

Edit: The point you make about FIC and FOL etc. is kind of missplaced, how can anyone expect an admin (Except barbarossa :) ) to see everything and everyone on the battlefield at the same time. I am not going to act on call outs from players, people can call FiC all they want but if I didnt see it, it could be that it didnt happen. As an admin, you work with extensive sampling and checks to figure out where things happen, the more admins you have, the more you can keep control over the situation, but in our case, we host the event with 2 dedicated admins and thats it. Also, have you ever seen the admintools when there are 200 men on the battlefield? It is really hard to spot anyone.

Babarossa is a best!
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: [Stryker] on September 09, 2020, 07:39:47 pm
3.) If you have ever admined before you would know its an unforgiving job that nobody wants to fucking do.
8.) Community is dying cause boredom or regimental drama, not because of corruption.
9.) Every event is different, are you implying that all events have the same issues? If so that's retarded because different situations happen each event.
12.) Intent of this thread was good. There have been a lot of corrupt admins in the past and it definitely needs to be addressed, but its not happening to my knowledge atm so point missed :/
13.) If you and your regiment got banned for tking that's fucking sad and you deserve to die, cause it ruins the event for your team and gives admins a headache. Control your men better or get out.

Here are some points I can agree to as an EU event host myself.
Point 3 holds more truth for our event then for most events as our event is just hosted by 3 admins that are non-alligned to any regiment.
Although it is an unforgiving job and the community itself is slowly becoming more toxic and unwilling to follow any rules, we still like hosting it.

And isn't it only logical to have an open donation box (We do, but it won't get you a spec slot), keep in mind that us admins are tasked with buying a 200 slot server and maintaining it, we are not forcing anyone to pay us money, we just give people the oppertunity to show their support if they so desire.

This is all I am going to say about this for now as I think I made my point,

Regards,
VincentPW, Founding Host of the GGA Tuesday Linebattle Event.
Steam: [GGA] Vincent (https://steamcommunity.com/id/GGAVincent/)
Discord: VincentPW#2820

Edit: The point you make about FIC and FOL etc. is kind of missplaced, how can anyone expect an admin (Except barbarossa :) ) to see everything and everyone on the battlefield at the same time. I am not going to act on call outs from players, people can call FiC all they want but if I didnt see it, it could be that it didnt happen. As an admin, you work with extensive sampling and checks to figure out where things happen, the more admins you have, the more you can keep control over the situation, but in our case, we host the event with 2 dedicated admins and thats it. Also, have you ever seen the admintools when there are 200 men on the battlefield? It is really hard to spot anyone.

Babarossa is a best!
He also kicked me for joking about Mussolini like a year ago, but other than that great admin
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: NickyJ on September 11, 2020, 08:41:06 pm
2 months after the thread's creation, I am the single most corrupt admin still standing. Eat your hearts out, Josh and Crusader. Xethos is still forgotten.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: ~Midnight~ on September 12, 2020, 07:53:53 am
2 months after the thread's creation, I am the single most corrupt admin still standing. Eat your hearts out, Josh and Crusader. Xethos is still forgotten.

corruption at its finest smh
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Moraine on September 16, 2020, 10:47:01 am
2 months after the thread's creation, I am the single most corrupt admin still standing. Eat your hearts out, Josh and Crusader. Xethos is still forgotten.

corruption at its finest smh
The Phoenix is but ash, but in flames it shall be reborn anew.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Kreuzritter Ashley on September 21, 2020, 01:37:54 am
2 months after the thread's creation, I am the single most corrupt admin still standing. Eat your hearts out, Josh and Crusader. Xethos is still forgotten.

Claims to be most corrupt but hasnt done a corrupt thing lmao
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: [Stryker] on September 21, 2020, 08:36:48 am
2 months after the thread's creation, I am the single most corrupt admin still standing. Eat your hearts out, Josh and Crusader. Xethos is still forgotten.

Claims to be most corrupt but hasnt done a corrupt thing lmao
He hosts an event, ofc he's corrupt!
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Wotsit on September 21, 2020, 06:59:34 pm
Koen from the 8th King's German Legion is refusing to give me OP on the brigade Minecraft Servers. I can't stand corrupt admins in our community anymore, everyone deserves OP!

We have nothing to lose but our chains!
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: AlJThire on September 21, 2020, 07:03:42 pm
Koen from the 8th King's German Legion is refusing to give me OP on the brigade Minecraft Servers. I can't stand corrupt admins in our community anymore, everyone deserves OP!

We have nothing to lose but our chains!

the fires of revolution have been sparked within the 2KGLB, may god have mercy on us corrupt folk
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: ItsAlex on December 11, 2020, 07:48:45 pm
imaging discussing admining over a game lol
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Jorvasker on January 29, 2021, 06:45:00 pm
McJewden worst Admin NW
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: LES IS MOREx on February 01, 2021, 09:24:34 pm
Dealing with the consequences of a dead game back when there were 4 different events on the same night these guys couldn't afford to make bs corrupt decisions and unbalanced teams start late or pick bad maps
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: ~Midnight~ on February 02, 2021, 02:49:01 am
Dealing with the consequences of a dead game back when there were 4 different events on the same night these guys couldn't afford to make bs corrupt decisions and unbalanced teams start late or pick bad maps

I still remember splitting 50 bucks with Moraine after you bought a cav slot. Good times
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Moraine on February 02, 2021, 09:26:17 pm
Dealing with the consequences of a dead game back when there were 4 different events on the same night these guys couldn't afford to make bs corrupt decisions and unbalanced teams start late or pick bad maps

I still remember splitting 50 bucks with Moraine after you bought a cav slot. Good times
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: ~NickCole~ on February 03, 2021, 03:06:26 pm
Dealing with the consequences of a dead game back when there were 4 different events on the same night these guys couldn't afford to make bs corrupt decisions and unbalanced teams start late or pick bad maps

I still remember splitting 50 bucks with Moraine after you bought a cav slot. Good times
I also remember Les paying mercs to play in his 1v1s.
Title: Re: ~Corrupt Admins in NW~
Post by: Dan the Seagull Chef on July 11, 2023, 05:20:12 am
+1