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Quote from: BabyJesus on February 07, 2018, 01:45:06 ami dont think there were nearly as many tier 1 tournaments for NIP as there are today could be wrong as i started watching shortly after the ibp ban, which was like 2015.NIP's premier level wins since 2014 are:Dreamhack Summer 2014ESL Cologne 2014DH Malmo 2016IEM Oakland 2016Starseries S2 FinalsIEM Oakland 2017sixSpoilerQuote from: Marceaux on February 07, 2018, 01:47:51 amQuote from: Theodin on February 07, 2018, 01:40:49 amQuote from: Marceaux on February 07, 2018, 12:20:46 amQuote from: Toffee Lad on February 07, 2018, 12:06:50 amQuote from: Marceaux on February 06, 2018, 11:57:47 pmQuote from: Theodin on February 06, 2018, 10:34:15 pmlol Marceaux with the incredibly poor analysis as alwaysThe silver who knows it all! Don’t have to be good at the game to know how it works.No but it helps, and if you're silver i assume you have low hours. Less hours = less time following CS.And to defend VP is just autism the past few YEARS they have been garbage. To act like they are some god team is just stupid. They never dominated the game for a long time and if they were so great they would be able to make pro league like all the other T1-2 teams regardless of circumstance.Just because a shitty team stayed together for a long time doesn't make them legendary if they don't have the skills and consistency to back it up. And if were referencing other sports (pele), Michael Jordan was able to comeback to pro basketball in his 40's with the wizards and still perform like the god he was. Yet VP cant win anything anymore despite being so called legends and they aren't even THAT old? I arent think that. I'm pushing 1k hours on CSGO and have followed since the Cluj-Napoca major. So I may be trash but I know the scene So lets see how they compare with other teams in CS:GO history. I assume when you say a couple years you mean, say 4, so lets see how many premier level tournaments according to Liquidpedia they won since 2014 and compare it with other teams:NiP won 6, finished top 4 16 timesFnatic was clearly the most dominant, winning 16 and placing top 4 in 18The Danes took home 9 and placed top 4 a whopping 25 timesThe LG/SK Brazilians won 10 and took home 20 top 4 placingsAnd finally, Virtus Pro, the only team on this list to not make a roster change in this time, took home 7 titles and an astounding 25 top 4 placings, giving them the most top 4 placings in the last four years.Final Numbers (Titles/top 4's):NiP: 22Fnatic: 34TSM/Astralis: 34SK/LG: 30VP: 32There are 3 problems I can forsee with this list:1. The distinction between a premier and a major tournament on Liquidpedia seems rather strange, with the "major" ones ranging from what should be tier 2 minors to Blast pro series?? If you think this is will be a major change then count the major ones yourself I guess2. Tournament placings differ on some player lists compared to the team list, i.e ESG Mykonos VP got 4th place but it's not on Pasha's achievements section. I went with the team list for everyone but LG/SK since both orgs have achievements before the Brazilians joined.3. Why no french teams, I hear you ask? Because the volatility in the French scene makes it non-sensical to chose a core of players to track achievements wise. Do you choose the NBK-Apex-Kenny trio from the Cluj win or the Shox-Apex-Happy trio from the DH 2014 win? It's hard to track a french team through time.Conclusion: No matter the online struggles, VP is up there with Fnatic, Astralis and SK/LG in one of the greatest teams of CS:GO in the past four years.Cya next time Marceaux, shouldn't put out wild statements while knowing nothing!Under 1k hours and you know it all. Congrats bro you're probably the next Thorin!!! No point in debating with a guy that grabs random info/articles from the first place they can find them in a panicked rush every time his opinion is challenged.[close]>Makes a claim>Gets proved wrong>"What a know it all, you're wrong but you're just panicking haha memed you!"And you wonder why no one takes you seriously or likes you, I literally just proved you wrong with evidenceYou're a true peanut brain, Marceaux. Your opinion is, as it will always be, 100 percent worthless and idiotic
i dont think there were nearly as many tier 1 tournaments for NIP as there are today could be wrong as i started watching shortly after the ibp ban, which was like 2015.
Quote from: Theodin on February 07, 2018, 01:40:49 amQuote from: Marceaux on February 07, 2018, 12:20:46 amQuote from: Toffee Lad on February 07, 2018, 12:06:50 amQuote from: Marceaux on February 06, 2018, 11:57:47 pmQuote from: Theodin on February 06, 2018, 10:34:15 pmlol Marceaux with the incredibly poor analysis as alwaysThe silver who knows it all! Don’t have to be good at the game to know how it works.No but it helps, and if you're silver i assume you have low hours. Less hours = less time following CS.And to defend VP is just autism the past few YEARS they have been garbage. To act like they are some god team is just stupid. They never dominated the game for a long time and if they were so great they would be able to make pro league like all the other T1-2 teams regardless of circumstance.Just because a shitty team stayed together for a long time doesn't make them legendary if they don't have the skills and consistency to back it up. And if were referencing other sports (pele), Michael Jordan was able to comeback to pro basketball in his 40's with the wizards and still perform like the god he was. Yet VP cant win anything anymore despite being so called legends and they aren't even THAT old? I arent think that. I'm pushing 1k hours on CSGO and have followed since the Cluj-Napoca major. So I may be trash but I know the scene So lets see how they compare with other teams in CS:GO history. I assume when you say a couple years you mean, say 4, so lets see how many premier level tournaments according to Liquidpedia they won since 2014 and compare it with other teams:NiP won 6, finished top 4 16 timesFnatic was clearly the most dominant, winning 16 and placing top 4 in 18The Danes took home 9 and placed top 4 a whopping 25 timesThe LG/SK Brazilians won 10 and took home 20 top 4 placingsAnd finally, Virtus Pro, the only team on this list to not make a roster change in this time, took home 7 titles and an astounding 25 top 4 placings, giving them the most top 4 placings in the last four years.Final Numbers (Titles/top 4's):NiP: 22Fnatic: 34TSM/Astralis: 34SK/LG: 30VP: 32There are 3 problems I can forsee with this list:1. The distinction between a premier and a major tournament on Liquidpedia seems rather strange, with the "major" ones ranging from what should be tier 2 minors to Blast pro series?? If you think this is will be a major change then count the major ones yourself I guess2. Tournament placings differ on some player lists compared to the team list, i.e ESG Mykonos VP got 4th place but it's not on Pasha's achievements section. I went with the team list for everyone but LG/SK since both orgs have achievements before the Brazilians joined.3. Why no french teams, I hear you ask? Because the volatility in the French scene makes it non-sensical to chose a core of players to track achievements wise. Do you choose the NBK-Apex-Kenny trio from the Cluj win or the Shox-Apex-Happy trio from the DH 2014 win? It's hard to track a french team through time.Conclusion: No matter the online struggles, VP is up there with Fnatic, Astralis and SK/LG in one of the greatest teams of CS:GO in the past four years.Cya next time Marceaux, shouldn't put out wild statements while knowing nothing!Under 1k hours and you know it all. Congrats bro you're probably the next Thorin!!! No point in debating with a guy that grabs random info/articles from the first place they can find them in a panicked rush every time his opinion is challenged.
Quote from: Marceaux on February 07, 2018, 12:20:46 amQuote from: Toffee Lad on February 07, 2018, 12:06:50 amQuote from: Marceaux on February 06, 2018, 11:57:47 pmQuote from: Theodin on February 06, 2018, 10:34:15 pmlol Marceaux with the incredibly poor analysis as alwaysThe silver who knows it all! Don’t have to be good at the game to know how it works.No but it helps, and if you're silver i assume you have low hours. Less hours = less time following CS.And to defend VP is just autism the past few YEARS they have been garbage. To act like they are some god team is just stupid. They never dominated the game for a long time and if they were so great they would be able to make pro league like all the other T1-2 teams regardless of circumstance.Just because a shitty team stayed together for a long time doesn't make them legendary if they don't have the skills and consistency to back it up. And if were referencing other sports (pele), Michael Jordan was able to comeback to pro basketball in his 40's with the wizards and still perform like the god he was. Yet VP cant win anything anymore despite being so called legends and they aren't even THAT old? I arent think that. I'm pushing 1k hours on CSGO and have followed since the Cluj-Napoca major. So I may be trash but I know the scene So lets see how they compare with other teams in CS:GO history. I assume when you say a couple years you mean, say 4, so lets see how many premier level tournaments according to Liquidpedia they won since 2014 and compare it with other teams:NiP won 6, finished top 4 16 timesFnatic was clearly the most dominant, winning 16 and placing top 4 in 18The Danes took home 9 and placed top 4 a whopping 25 timesThe LG/SK Brazilians won 10 and took home 20 top 4 placingsAnd finally, Virtus Pro, the only team on this list to not make a roster change in this time, took home 7 titles and an astounding 25 top 4 placings, giving them the most top 4 placings in the last four years.Final Numbers (Titles/top 4's):NiP: 22Fnatic: 34TSM/Astralis: 34SK/LG: 30VP: 32There are 3 problems I can forsee with this list:1. The distinction between a premier and a major tournament on Liquidpedia seems rather strange, with the "major" ones ranging from what should be tier 2 minors to Blast pro series?? If you think this is will be a major change then count the major ones yourself I guess2. Tournament placings differ on some player lists compared to the team list, i.e ESG Mykonos VP got 4th place but it's not on Pasha's achievements section. I went with the team list for everyone but LG/SK since both orgs have achievements before the Brazilians joined.3. Why no french teams, I hear you ask? Because the volatility in the French scene makes it non-sensical to chose a core of players to track achievements wise. Do you choose the NBK-Apex-Kenny trio from the Cluj win or the Shox-Apex-Happy trio from the DH 2014 win? It's hard to track a french team through time.Conclusion: No matter the online struggles, VP is up there with Fnatic, Astralis and SK/LG in one of the greatest teams of CS:GO in the past four years.Cya next time Marceaux, shouldn't put out wild statements while knowing nothing!
Quote from: Toffee Lad on February 07, 2018, 12:06:50 amQuote from: Marceaux on February 06, 2018, 11:57:47 pmQuote from: Theodin on February 06, 2018, 10:34:15 pmlol Marceaux with the incredibly poor analysis as alwaysThe silver who knows it all! Don’t have to be good at the game to know how it works.No but it helps, and if you're silver i assume you have low hours. Less hours = less time following CS.And to defend VP is just autism the past few YEARS they have been garbage. To act like they are some god team is just stupid. They never dominated the game for a long time and if they were so great they would be able to make pro league like all the other T1-2 teams regardless of circumstance.Just because a shitty team stayed together for a long time doesn't make them legendary if they don't have the skills and consistency to back it up. And if were referencing other sports (pele), Michael Jordan was able to comeback to pro basketball in his 40's with the wizards and still perform like the god he was. Yet VP cant win anything anymore despite being so called legends and they aren't even THAT old? I arent think that.
Quote from: Marceaux on February 06, 2018, 11:57:47 pmQuote from: Theodin on February 06, 2018, 10:34:15 pmlol Marceaux with the incredibly poor analysis as alwaysThe silver who knows it all! Don’t have to be good at the game to know how it works.
Quote from: Theodin on February 06, 2018, 10:34:15 pmlol Marceaux with the incredibly poor analysis as alwaysThe silver who knows it all!
lol Marceaux with the incredibly poor analysis as always
Ah yes, one slip up - in 2014, on a totally unrelated subject, and something I not only publically recognized I was wrong in doing, and something that I took great care to never do again.You've been saying shit out of your ass since then, been wrong most if not all of the time, and looked like a massive turd while doing so. Get your sub 100 IQ out of here - actually, no, stay, since this is clearly the only place you have to turn to that hasn't completely rejected you yet.
Quote from: Theodin on February 07, 2018, 02:11:15 amAh yes, one slip up - in 2014, on a totally unrelated subject, and something I not only publically recognized I was wrong in doing, and something that I took great care to never do again.You've been saying shit out of your ass since then, been wrong most if not all of the time, and looked like a massive turd while doing so. Get your sub 100 IQ out of here - actually, no, stay, since this is clearly the only place you have to turn to that hasn't completely rejected you yet.I have a feeling you have some deep issues in life. I am sorry for whatever they may be. Its just the internet though man no need to get so upset i am sure you have some irl friends you can talk to about it if you need. Sorry for hurting your feelings and causing you to lash out. I would never question your superior knowledge of counter strike or anything for that matter Theo you clearly know more about it then most especially me. I have nowhere, i am le reject. Where will i go next...
Quote from: Marceaux on February 06, 2018, 11:57:47 pmQuote from: Theodin on February 06, 2018, 10:34:15 pmlol Marceaux with the incredibly poor analysis as alwaysThe silver who knows it all! What? That makes no sense? Are you saying you have to be good at a sport/game to understand it? Cause... hate to break it to you, a majority of the best analyst in sports and eSports are not pro level players or even high-end. I actually am starting to think based on several comments I have read from you, that you don't understand CS that well at all.Also, to say VP have been bad for years.... They hit a slump at the end of 2016 and bounced back. This was the first time they didn't. Another good piece by Thorin and ZnipeTV: https://beta.znipe.tv/insight?i=5a1eb72bb4fd3c7dfa95dd35
Quote from: Lurvy on February 07, 2018, 03:48:39 amQuote from: Marceaux on February 06, 2018, 11:57:47 pmQuote from: Theodin on February 06, 2018, 10:34:15 pmlol Marceaux with the incredibly poor analysis as alwaysThe silver who knows it all! What? That makes no sense? Are you saying you have to be good at a sport/game to understand it? Cause... hate to break it to you, a majority of the best analyst in sports and eSports are not pro level players or even high-end. I actually am starting to think based on several comments I have read from you, that you don't understand CS that well at all.Also, to say VP have been bad for years.... They hit a slump at the end of 2016 and bounced back. This was the first time they didn't. Another good piece by Thorin and ZnipeTV: https://beta.znipe.tv/insight?i=5a1eb72bb4fd3c7dfa95dd35I was referring to his hours and baiting at the same time 2 birds 1 stone. Did you even read the other posts?And my opinion of VP is my opinion i do not care if you agree or not thats the beauty of opinions and especially the internet. They have proven time and time again they are over rated. Which was my entire point.
I think I'm in love with Theodin.
scream is also overrated
