I said that a few years ago, the moment you start doing 4-5 tournaments in a month people really aren't going to take them all seriously anymore. You used to have one gf tournament a month, sometimes two or sometimes none even so each tournament was treated much more seriously.Yup I've said it a few times that some sort of group of organisers/team leaders needs to be made to have some form of organisation to the scene and keep it fresh, but it would appear people prefer to win shitty spam tournies.
Cazasar mentioned this idea to me a good few months back but nothing ever came of it. I think it's a good idea but I believe certain hosts wouldn't adhere to the rule-set of the group anyway and would still just do things alone.I said that a few years ago, the moment you start doing 4-5 tournaments in a month people really aren't going to take them all seriously anymore. You used to have one gf tournament a month, sometimes two or sometimes none even so each tournament was treated much more seriously.Yup I've said it a few times that some sort of group of organisers/team leaders needs to be made to have some form of organisation to the scene and keep it fresh, but it would appear people prefer to win shitty spam tournies.
Cazasar mentioned this idea to me a good few months back but nothing ever came of it.surprised ngl
In situations like that the idea would be to all boycott that tourney as a groupCazasar mentioned this idea to me a good few months back but nothing ever came of it. I think it's a good idea but I believe certain hosts wouldn't adhere to the rule-set of the group anyway and would still just do things alone.I said that a few years ago, the moment you start doing 4-5 tournaments in a month people really aren't going to take them all seriously anymore. You used to have one gf tournament a month, sometimes two or sometimes none even so each tournament was treated much more seriously.Yup I've said it a few times that some sort of group of organisers/team leaders needs to be made to have some form of organisation to the scene and keep it fresh, but it would appear people prefer to win shitty spam tournies.
Then you'd also need to get team captains on side, which depending who was part of said 'group' I'd imagine it wouldn't be too hard to get most large teams to do so.In situations like that the idea would be to all boycott that tourney as a groupCazasar mentioned this idea to me a good few months back but nothing ever came of it. I think it's a good idea but I believe certain hosts wouldn't adhere to the rule-set of the group anyway and would still just do things alone.I said that a few years ago, the moment you start doing 4-5 tournaments in a month people really aren't going to take them all seriously anymore. You used to have one gf tournament a month, sometimes two or sometimes none even so each tournament was treated much more seriously.Yup I've said it a few times that some sort of group of organisers/team leaders needs to be made to have some form of organisation to the scene and keep it fresh, but it would appear people prefer to win shitty spam tournies.
I said that a few years ago, the moment you start doing 4-5 tournaments in a month people really aren't going to take them all seriously anymore. You used to have one gf tournament a month, sometimes two or sometimes none even so each tournament was treated much more seriously.It was a huge deal winning the 5v5 tournament hosted by Hekko, watching old videos you could even hear the winning teams excitement and everyone went nuts. The competition was higher and we had more teams on the same level. Today you have a very high rate of events hosted by either MightyPain or Marxeil and always the same three teams winning them. It just doesn't feel the same as it used to be. Would really appreciate it if hosters could just turn down a bit with hosting tournaments and get together in order to try to make one or two per month with the same quality as Hekkos tournaments had.
I mean, I kind of view it as a double edged sword. On one hand you don't want to spam the community with competitive events or everyone involved in the competitive scene will most likely become bored and not take it as seriously. On the other hand, you have those 95% competitive oriented regiments who will just grow bored regardless because there wouldn't be multiple competitive things to do. Even if the latter isn't the bigger issue, it still is a concern to some extent. I do agree with the former and that there shouldn't be such an influx of competitive events and NA needs to chill with all the tournaments every 5 seconds in my opinion.NA doesn't do that many tournaments anymore. We had 15 last year and 1 this year (I don't count North vs South as a real tournament) which was Jolly's Duel tournament for the lower skilled guys (Yoloswag won it under a different name so not really). I agree EUs do wayyyyyyy to many tournaments. I think their was like 30-50 melee tournaments hosted last year and that is without melee leagues & regimental leagues.
I mean, I kind of view it as a double edged sword. On one hand you don't want to spam the community with competitive events or everyone involved in the competitive scene will most likely become bored and not take it as seriously. On the other hand, you have those 95% competitive oriented regiments who will just grow bored regardless because there wouldn't be multiple competitive things to do. Even if the latter isn't the bigger issue, it still is a concern to some extent. I do agree with the former and that there shouldn't be such an influx of competitive events and NA needs to chill with all the tournaments every 5 seconds in my opinion.NA doesn't do that many tournaments anymore. We had 15 last year and 1 this year (I don't count North vs South as a real tournament) which was Jolly's Duel tournament for the lower skilled guys (Yoloswag won it under a different name so not really). I agree EUs do wayyyyyyy to many tournaments. I think their was like 30-50 melee tournaments hosted last year and that is without melee leagues & regimental leagues.
So stuff like Tagpro or UFC counts as a competitive event? There has been a page and a half about "competitive events" from 2018 and some of them are stupid shit like what I said. 15 tournaments (including the melee leagues in this count) in a year isn't that many.I mean, I kind of view it as a double edged sword. On one hand you don't want to spam the community with competitive events or everyone involved in the competitive scene will most likely become bored and not take it as seriously. On the other hand, you have those 95% competitive oriented regiments who will just grow bored regardless because there wouldn't be multiple competitive things to do. Even if the latter isn't the bigger issue, it still is a concern to some extent. I do agree with the former and that there shouldn't be such an influx of competitive events and NA needs to chill with all the tournaments every 5 seconds in my opinion.NA doesn't do that many tournaments anymore. We had 15 last year and 1 this year (I don't count North vs South as a real tournament) which was Jolly's Duel tournament for the lower skilled guys (Yoloswag won it under a different name so not really). I agree EUs do wayyyyyyy to many tournaments. I think their was like 30-50 melee tournaments hosted last year and that is without melee leagues & regimental leagues.
I count everything posted in the competitive events board as a competitive event. I'm not being inclusive to just tournaments or leagues but everything competitive. With that being said, yes, I do believe NA hosts quite a lot of competitive events which to me has certainly killed the appeal of them. I realize I said tournaments for NA, but I really meant competitive events in general bar individuals 1v1s or GFs.
So stuff like Tagpro or UFC counts as a competitive event? There has been a page and a half about "competitive events" from 2018 and some of them are stupid shit like what I said. 15 tournaments (including the melee leagues in this count) in a year isn't that many.I mean, I kind of view it as a double edged sword. On one hand you don't want to spam the community with competitive events or everyone involved in the competitive scene will most likely become bored and not take it as seriously. On the other hand, you have those 95% competitive oriented regiments who will just grow bored regardless because there wouldn't be multiple competitive things to do. Even if the latter isn't the bigger issue, it still is a concern to some extent. I do agree with the former and that there shouldn't be such an influx of competitive events and NA needs to chill with all the tournaments every 5 seconds in my opinion.NA doesn't do that many tournaments anymore. We had 15 last year and 1 this year (I don't count North vs South as a real tournament) which was Jolly's Duel tournament for the lower skilled guys (Yoloswag won it under a different name so not really). I agree EUs do wayyyyyyy to many tournaments. I think their was like 30-50 melee tournaments hosted last year and that is without melee leagues & regimental leagues.
I count everything posted in the competitive events board as a competitive event. I'm not being inclusive to just tournaments or leagues but everything competitive. With that being said, yes, I do believe NA hosts quite a lot of competitive events which to me has certainly killed the appeal of them. I realize I said tournaments for NA, but I really meant competitive events in general bar individuals 1v1s or GFs.
People have been saying that NW is dead for at least 3 years now and every time there is always some revival with new players and new competitions. I will admit though it's obvious the player count has slowly and steadily declined to the point where even big events are averaging low player counts. It's such a shame as well because I believe the skill ceiling is very high now. But a lot of the players still playing the game at least on the competitive infantry side are in a tight little bubble and its about 15-30 players just fighting over and over again to see who is best. If NW had retained it's player count since 2012-2014 era I could imagine the competitive side would be insane but never mind. It will however eventually die out and I think Bannerlord will be the final blow.I agree with golden here, Because only 10 teams signed up for mightypains tourn doesn't make the whole community dead. If Marxeil hosted the same tourn im sure 16 teams with 2-3 reserves wouldve signed up. Ofcourse we are stuck at the point of fighting the same 50-60 people but some newgens pop up from time to time and I personally think if there was a better host or more exciting tournament format, more people or teams would sign up. E.g fotin postponed his old 2v2 tourn and has been swapping the date for his depletion tourn aswell. Mightypain did the same now and didnt get much signups either. With a M. Tournament i dont see these problems. Maybe its just me.
EDIT: Mighypains tournaments are also kind of annoying now especially that one hosted on Monday was just a joke.
The reason why I changed the date of the Melee depletion Tournament is because we didn't have enough players to make it. I don't think that you guys would enjoy a 16v16 in the first round, am I wrong ?People have been saying that NW is dead for at least 3 years now and every time there is always some revival with new players and new competitions. I will admit though it's obvious the player count has slowly and steadily declined to the point where even big events are averaging low player counts. It's such a shame as well because I believe the skill ceiling is very high now. But a lot of the players still playing the game at least on the competitive infantry side are in a tight little bubble and its about 15-30 players just fighting over and over again to see who is best. If NW had retained it's player count since 2012-2014 era I could imagine the competitive side would be insane but never mind. It will however eventually die out and I think Bannerlord will be the final blow.I agree with golden here, Because only 10 teams signed up for mightypains tourn doesn't make the whole community dead. If Marxeil hosted the same tourn im sure 16 teams with 2-3 reserves wouldve signed up. Ofcourse we are stuck at the point of fighting the same 50-60 people but some newgens pop up from time to time and I personally think if there was a better host or more exciting tournament format, more people or teams would sign up. E.g fotin postponed his old 2v2 tourn and has been swapping the date for his depletion tourn aswell. Mightypain did the same now and didnt get much signups either. With a M. Tournament i dont see these problems. Maybe its just me.
EDIT: Mighypains tournaments are also kind of annoying now especially that one hosted on Monday was just a joke.
lol are u retarded or what youre saying that 16 teams would sign up in a 7v7 tournament tell me which teams i see always same teams in every tournamentPeople have been saying that NW is dead for at least 3 years now and every time there is always some revival with new players and new competitions. I will admit though it's obvious the player count has slowly and steadily declined to the point where even big events are averaging low player counts. It's such a shame as well because I believe the skill ceiling is very high now. But a lot of the players still playing the game at least on the competitive infantry side are in a tight little bubble and its about 15-30 players just fighting over and over again to see who is best. If NW had retained it's player count since 2012-2014 era I could imagine the competitive side would be insane but never mind. It will however eventually die out and I think Bannerlord will be the final blow.I agree with golden here, Because only 10 teams signed up for mightypains tourn doesn't make the whole community dead. If Marxeil hosted the same tourn im sure 16 teams with 2-3 reserves wouldve signed up. Ofcourse we are stuck at the point of fighting the same 50-60 people but some newgens pop up from time to time and I personally think if there was a better host or more exciting tournament format, more people or teams would sign up. E.g fotin postponed his old 2v2 tourn and has been swapping the date for his depletion tourn aswell. Mightypain did the same now and didnt get much signups either. With a M. Tournament i dont see these problems. Maybe its just me.
EDIT: Mighypains tournaments are also kind of annoying now especially that one hosted on Monday was just a joke.
The most an M. Tournament has ever had was 13 teams. But Marxeil usually caps to around 7-10. Besides it makes sense why other teams don't want to sign up. There is realistically like 3 teams that can win the tournament and the rest are there to play a ft5 lose 0-5 and go home lol. I wouldn't sign up to that shit. All-Stars, FrenchTouch, Poosy, Chimpz. Killed the game due to just having ridiculously stacked teams, I tried to counter that with teams like TBE and bullyland with little success but whatever. Some argument can be made that having a team with just the top 10 best players in it is retarded and boring and ruined the competitive side to some degree.I'd argue also that back in the day teams generally didn't switch players as much, currently the team's now switch players in and out without a second thought because they only care about winning (which is devalued in itself) whereas before you'd have a solid line up of people whom not only want to win but retain their title/do better then last tournament or simply see how much they had progressed since the last tournament.
lol complain about stacked teams but still play in them :Pidk only got 3rd place last tourny m8
lol complain about stacked teams but still play in them :Pidk only got 3rd place last tourny m8
The most an M. Tournament has ever had was 13 teams. But Marxeil usually caps to around 7-10. Besides it makes sense why other teams don't want to sign up. There is realistically like 3 teams that can win the tournament and the rest are there to play a ft5 lose 0-5 and go home lol. I wouldn't sign up to that shit. All-Stars, FrenchTouch, Poosy, Chimpz. Killed the game due to just having ridiculously stacked teams, I tried to counter that with teams like TBE and bullyland with little success but whatever. Some argument can be made that having a team with just the top 10 best players in it is retarded and boring and ruined the competitive side to some degree.i agree with you mate
The most an M. Tournament has ever had was 13 teams. But Marxeil usually caps to around 7-10. Besides it makes sense why other teams don't want to sign up. There is realistically like 3 teams that can win the tournament and the rest are there to play a ft5 lose 0-5 and go home lol. I wouldn't sign up to that shit. All-Stars, FrenchTouch, Poosy, Chimpz. Killed the game due to just having ridiculously stacked teams, I tried to counter that with teams like TBE and bullyland with little success but whatever. Some argument can be made that having a team with just the top 10 best players in it is retarded and boring and ruined the competitive side to some degree.FrenchTouch was never a stacked team , we never recruit the best players of the game for play our tournaments.We didn't killed the game, on the contrary we gave him a second life.
The most an M. Tournament has ever had was 13 teams. But Marxeil usually caps to around 7-10. Besides it makes sense why other teams don't want to sign up. There is realistically like 3 teams that can win the tournament and the rest are there to play a ft5 lose 0-5 and go home lol. I wouldn't sign up to that shit. All-Stars, FrenchTouch, Poosy, Chimpz. Killed the game due to just having ridiculously stacked teams, I tried to counter that with teams like TBE and bullyland with little success but whatever. Some argument can be made that having a team with just the top 10 best players in it is retarded and boring and ruined the competitive side to some degree.FrenchTouch was never a stacked team , we never recruit the best players of the game for play our tournaments.We didn't killed the game, on the contrary we gave him a second life.
On 2015 when people saying nw is already a dead game , french players with frenchtouch permit to stimulate nw scene by beating what was considered of the best players in the game.
We create more challenge on gf scene and this why the tournaments was very competitive.
Again , you said you tried to counter "stacked team" but you did nothing , you just do the reverse by joining poosy in the 5v5 m league and in the same time of being TBE captain.
Poosy roster at this time : Python Hypno Voluble Bagins Herishey Tiberias Troister Golden Stark Dren
And create bully team which was a stacked team , you never try to make progress players.
So pls , be on adequation with your behavior on the game , it will avoid reading in your messages the opposite of what you really doing.
do you really think im going to read all that ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;DSorry lol ;D
Some argument can be made that having a team with just the top 10 best players in it is retarded and boring and ruined the competitive side to some degree.This is why I really liked the fantasy team league tourney thingy where teams got a budget to buy players that varied in price depending on skill
do you really think im going to read all that ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;DSorry lol ;D
TLDR: you're wrong
Some argument can be made that having a team with just the top 10 best players in it is retarded and boring and ruined the competitive side to some degree.This is why I really liked the fantasy team league tourney thingy where teams got a budget to buy players that varied in price depending on skill
do you really think im going to read all that ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;DSorry lol ;D
TLDR: you're wrong
how can i be wrong when ur past teams have all been top tier teams ???
Yeah exactly ;DSome argument can be made that having a team with just the top 10 best players in it is retarded and boring and ruined the competitive side to some degree.This is why I really liked the fantasy team league tourney thingy where teams got a budget to buy players that varied in price depending on skill
Yes that was good apart from the pricing was stupid and the auction went wrong and half of the captains gave up on their teams and the players just got kicked out the league. But it was a brilliant idea imo
All-stars was only for 7v7 or+ format because Frenchtouch "the stacked team" didn't have the players for play there tournaments formats.The most an M. Tournament has ever had was 13 teams. But Marxeil usually caps to around 7-10. Besides it makes sense why other teams don't want to sign up. There is realistically like 3 teams that can win the tournament and the rest are there to play a ft5 lose 0-5 and go home lol. I wouldn't sign up to that shit. All-Stars, FrenchTouch, Poosy, Chimpz. Killed the game due to just having ridiculously stacked teams, I tried to counter that with teams like TBE and bullyland with little success but whatever. Some argument can be made that having a team with just the top 10 best players in it is retarded and boring and ruined the competitive side to some degree.FrenchTouch was never a stacked team , we never recruit the best players of the game for play our tournaments.We didn't killed the game, on the contrary we gave him a second life.
On 2015 when people saying nw is already a dead game , french players with frenchtouch permit to stimulate nw scene by beating what was considered of the best players in the game.
We create more challenge on gf scene and this why the tournaments was very competitive.
Again , you said you tried to counter "stacked team" but you did nothing , you just do the reverse by joining poosy in the 5v5 m league and in the same time of being TBE captain.
Poosy roster at this time : Python Hypno Voluble Bagins Herishey Tiberias Troister Golden Stark Dren
And create bully team which was a stacked team , you never try to make progress players.
So pls , be on adequation with your behavior on the game , it will avoid reading in your messages the opposite of what you really doing.
So are you really just going to ignore All-stars ?
and this team - LeBrave, Cr3a, Maharbaal, ExtaZz94, Tiberias, Troister, Owindd, Bessieres, Drake
Dunno havent seen the effort of existing teams lately to even take in lesser known/skilled players lately to kind of build them up to modern standards. The only teams ive noticed since ive made my own effort of getting active in the scene (since abt November 2018) were Kamikaze, TBE and NotSwedish almost any other Team seemed to only play with their Homeboys and Toptierplayers exclusively. I havent got this perspective of the Tournament spam but the of the "occasional new-Gen player" as stated before so yehbig egos can't handle losing so playing with bad players is unacceptable
what if the big ego players are bad ::)Dunno havent seen the effort of existing teams lately to even take in lesser known/skilled players lately to kind of build them up to modern standards. The only teams ive noticed since ive made my own effort of getting active in the scene (since abt November 2018) were Kamikaze, TBE and NotSwedish almost any other Team seemed to only play with their Homeboys and Toptierplayers exclusively. I havent got this perspective of the Tournament spam but the of the "occasional new-Gen player" as stated before so yehbig egos can't handle losing so playing with bad players is unacceptable
Dunno havent seen the effort of existing teams lately to even take in lesser known/skilled players lately to kind of build them up to modern standards. The only teams ive noticed since ive made my own effort of getting active in the scene (since abt November 2018) were Kamikaze, TBE and NotSwedish almost any other Team seemed to only play with their Homeboys and Toptierplayers exclusively. I havent got this perspective of the Tournament spam but the of the "occasional new-Gen player" as stated before so yehMost teams have some newgens as far as i can see, the only team with only old players is chimpz atm i think. Cazadores tournement team has lost almost 50% of its members due to inactivity/ people who left nw over the last month. It has to gather new players and there are not many left to get. We can go after the good new players in teams like Kamikaze but that will only weaken Kamikaze more. getting completely new players to the gf scene will create to much of a skill gap in the team itself I think. So I wouldnt know where to get new players
deepwhat if the big ego players are bad ::)Dunno havent seen the effort of existing teams lately to even take in lesser known/skilled players lately to kind of build them up to modern standards. The only teams ive noticed since ive made my own effort of getting active in the scene (since abt November 2018) were Kamikaze, TBE and NotSwedish almost any other Team seemed to only play with their Homeboys and Toptierplayers exclusively. I havent got this perspective of the Tournament spam but the of the "occasional new-Gen player" as stated before so yehbig egos can't handle losing so playing with bad players is unacceptable
All-stars was only for 7v7 or+ format because Frenchtouch "the stacked team" didn't have the players for play there tournaments formats.The most an M. Tournament has ever had was 13 teams. But Marxeil usually caps to around 7-10. Besides it makes sense why other teams don't want to sign up. There is realistically like 3 teams that can win the tournament and the rest are there to play a ft5 lose 0-5 and go home lol. I wouldn't sign up to that shit. All-Stars, FrenchTouch, Poosy, Chimpz. Killed the game due to just having ridiculously stacked teams, I tried to counter that with teams like TBE and bullyland with little success but whatever. Some argument can be made that having a team with just the top 10 best players in it is retarded and boring and ruined the competitive side to some degree.FrenchTouch was never a stacked team , we never recruit the best players of the game for play our tournaments.We didn't killed the game, on the contrary we gave him a second life.
On 2015 when people saying nw is already a dead game , french players with frenchtouch permit to stimulate nw scene by beating what was considered of the best players in the game.
We create more challenge on gf scene and this why the tournaments was very competitive.
Again , you said you tried to counter "stacked team" but you did nothing , you just do the reverse by joining poosy in the 5v5 m league and in the same time of being TBE captain.
Poosy roster at this time : Python Hypno Voluble Bagins Herishey Tiberias Troister Golden Stark Dren
And create bully team which was a stacked team , you never try to make progress players.
So pls , be on adequation with your behavior on the game , it will avoid reading in your messages the opposite of what you really doing.
So are you really just going to ignore All-stars ?
and this team - LeBrave, Cr3a, Maharbaal, ExtaZz94, Tiberias, Troister, Owindd, Bessieres, Drake
"and this team - LeBrave, Cr3a, Maharbaal, ExtaZz94, Tiberias, Troister, Owindd, Bessieres, Drake"
Pls dude , all the players that you put in the team never play in the same time.
Tib playing only 1 tournaments with us , troister play few tournaments with us , same for owind , same for crea and bessieres never play with us.
Our real team was : Lebrave Drake , peponi , vade , extazz , kennedy ,fotin , maharbaal and fwuff you can maybe add muha who play with us but not in very long time.
How is a team stacked when it becomes good with the same core of players?It's hard to admit but you frenchies are right I guess. After all the good players left and the frenchies started to tryhard, they became best without adding some extra super pro player to their lineup.
But yeah im sorry for not joining kamikaze or something and losing like 0-5 every tourny.
But yeah im sorry for not joining kamikaze or something and losing like 0-5 every tourny.
seems about right
The skill level has both increased overall yet decreased at the top recently, not to mention the meta that most of the new gens have employed to compete with the older more experienced players has caused some controversy with whole teams being labeled as cancer to play (not just individual players) and so on.
The reason only 10% of players take duel tourneys seriously is because EU dueling has become a joke and there are only some willing to bear it to get their 5 minutes of fame.
Frenchtouch's "era" was around when there was a lul in competition as teams like PowerRangers and TFFO were fazing out, yet I can still agree that it was one of the best teams of all time.
Players like Extazz and Drake have never been in an underdog team that hasn't included the same group of FT lads so Extazz u cant really chat to Golden about that.
Edit: Credit where its Due FT made themselves from nothing but its players haven't been successful anywhere else.
Golden the only time u haven't been in a top team in the recent competitive scene is when you first joined TBE.
Having stacked teams like Poosy and All-stars doesn't make it fun for everyone else which is why it probably made the scene more fun after the teams disbanded and their skilled players dissipated into separate teams.
Yes there are too many tourneys.
No it probably won't change peoples attitudes if they are hosted less as most of the main people left have made up their mind on how they feel about playing.
On FTSpoiler@Golden FT isn't stacked, we started from the bottom, learning A to Z, in a uncompetitive and pretty hostile french community dominated by GB and GER on the eu scene at the time, for most we started in randomish regiments, a community in which dozen regiment would be estimated better, in which dozens of players would be estimated better.
Just don't forget, back then, herishey or lebrave could tell you about, it was all about the anglo-sphere, if you we'rent part of them or friends with them (like : 91st, 92nd, GB, 1st 17e?) you would have to do 2 or 3x more, if you we'rent part of their teams or organizations they run, like FFE for exemple, you probably wouldn't be backed up by them as a good/top groupfighter. They would always say the best frenchie is their frenchie, the best polish is their polish, the one that plays for them.
No lie, they we're winning, but you get what i meant. it's harder.
Being britons or english-speaking in this game (even nowadays for the whole EU experience), joining those pillar organizations, you would easily and steadily improve, meet very good players, learn about the "meta" of then, make them learn about you and back you to get in good teams, and all in all : your get your ticket easier for the eu scene top show. And despite not coming from this environment, hostilities in our own community, we made it from scratch, and our meta is still unmatched, favored, and continue to influence as obelix stated, we get the credits for the meta right (8 EU duel gold, 5/6 silver, bronzes etc...), tryhards they say. FT was the place we offered safety, solidarity, good fun, and constant improving curve, that's why people like fwuffy joined and stayed, not for winning, he stayed even when we faced a few losses.
Our core : LeBrave, Maharbaal, ExtaZz94, Drake would never ever leave, allowing us to continue improving at our path to reach the level we did, not by stack strategies.
What where the chance from some noobish frenchies to climb like that, and establish new standards : very low. So golden, we had a good team we constructed in the first place from A 1) We heavily formed our players 2) Created our own meta 3) Climb the ladder to the top 4) Successed at top with consistance.[close]
As for all All-Stars, it ended up a super-team no doubt, but not always we had the rosters people might think of, even at our highest, they we're still other very good teams, if you look at native, there's the Frontline Tactics (FT rocks both way :D), they have every fucking best player at every positions taking players from former dominant AE to play cash prized tournament. would you imagine gb + fra for a cash prized nwwc ? that's how crazy a true super-team is.
All-Stars was an answer to larger format, DF, Herishey, Mightypain enforced to "bring more competitions", didn't really succeed at the end, ironically, it wasn't necessary and produced the inverse effect. After FT disbanded, i saw they started hosting 5v5 back, i'm curious but i won't ask them :D. Morale if you want a great scene, host every kinds of tournaments, polyvalence is the real sign of capabilities, if you are the TBE or TFFO leader and only host tournaments your team can plays in then you're not helping your community, no disrespect mighty and herishey friendo.
Host tournies for duellist, for duo, for trio, for 5 people team, for 8 people team or if you don't like one of theses, host the one you like when needed, don't spam it, that's what i did when hosting a few 5v5.
I believe herishey has a good idea, but it need to be done carefully, doors should always be open, regulating organization is a good solution but it must be handled in a careful way as to who, how, and why decisions are taken, fairness and diversity without conflict of interest or bias.
You could do something like both Tournaments Agenda + List, a system of both tournament opportunities and public rewards and listing, on the basics of what marxeil already done, and huge emphasis only to respect these, not going to play others ones. You can also do lesser numbered tournament but more quality and dedication demanded as Marxeil did, but you would do it with more dedication by players, it will increase the skill ceiling even.
Yes, i mean csgo tournament are made of few teams finally, with more than average motivated and talented guys.
Solution ? You don't need 120 players per tournament, you need interested and motivated players that will really come and produce quality competition and opposition, whether they are 16, 32, or 64. UFC and Boxing only needs 2 guys to make big money. Ask tardets tips for hype. You can very probably add new features to tournies, like just not, signing-up + come at the server + goodbye. Work on regulation, originality, interest, hype and accessibility for every nw players, not just the same 60 people.
One word on originality, it doesn't need to be necessarily new formats and rules, but how do you hype it and make it living and interesting without making it a fun event that hold no contest to it, self-vanity of own guessed capabilities is the fuel of competition at the end of the day.
Golden, maybe you missconfuse set-up that can make you win a match, with meta which is the fondamentals of playstyle we've seen rising in 2016 : be a wall and catch the first errortry again in english
The meta about the whole solidity, cautious, no error style of playing : its ok to take his time if needed, no more play when advantages gained, actions restriction applied to some, not everyone will try first pick.
Since 2019 started, I feel like NW is less competitive, people aren't taking the competitions as seriously as in the last year.
Golden, maybe you missconfuse set-up that can make you win a match, with meta which is the fondamentals of playstyle we've seen rising in 2016 : be a wall and catch the first errortry again in english
The meta about the whole solidity, cautious, no error style of playing : its ok to take his time if needed, no more play when advantages gained, actions restriction applied to some, not everyone will try first pick.
idk what ur problem is Stasi cuz i acutally understood it pretty easily
idk what ur problem is Stasi cuz i acutally understood it pretty easily
we started from the bottom,actually i can vouch for this, lebrave and haze were astoundingly shit back in the 2eFusGre ;D
idk what ur problem is Stasi cuz i acutally understood it pretty easily
Not all of us are fluent in retard tho
FSE 101, never actually mention you're retiring
Yey let's start this discussion again which has already ended and been acted upon!TOG is a good way to delay the death of competitive NW, but not enough to stop it.
Chriseh and I have hosted one of the major tournaments for like the past 4 years. ;DI did not mention your name, but Chriseh being a host is not whats killing NW it’s a symptom of a larger issue.
I’ll post a longer reply later but Chriseh you being the host of one of the major tournaments on NW shows how dire of a time it is.I've been hosting tournaments long before you joined NW from cracked.
Chriseh and I have hosted one of the major tournaments for like the past 4 years. ;DBUT HERI HE MEAN TO ME
what is killing nw is the boring s keyers like bagins and golden
mate let's be honest it's all true.what is killing nw is the boring s keyers like bagins and golden
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mate let's be honest it's all true.what is killing nw is the boring s keyers like bagins and golden
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I see you lad, can't hide your inner German from me >:(
what is killing nw is the boring s keyers like bagins and golden
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what is killing nw is the boring s keyers like bagins and golden
TOG is a good way to delay the death of competitive NW, but not enough to stop it.
TOG is a good way to delay the death of competitive NW, but not enough to stop it.
TOG is an awful idea. I'm just glad we don't see this pretentious cancer seeping into cav yet. Although really the community doesnt have any legs left, just a waiting game for Bannerlord
I hope that's a joke, TOG so far has been very successful and the tournaments have been well run. Furthermore the prize pool was handed out unlike previous tournaments. Don't comment on something you barely have a part of or even an understanding.
I hope that's a joke, TOG so far has been very successful and the tournaments have been well run. Furthermore the prize pool was handed out unlike previous tournaments. Don't comment on something you barely have a part of or even an understanding.
Well I'm part of the community, so I'm entitled to my opinion. This is kind of the problem with TOG. Pretentious people telling others what they can and can't, should and shouldn't do.
If it makes you guys feel better. EU is 10x more active than NAI can finally sleep at night knowing this
I hope that's a joke, TOG so far has been very successful and the tournaments have been well run. Furthermore the prize pool was handed out unlike previous tournaments. Don't comment on something you barely have a part of or even an understanding.
Well I'm part of the community, so I'm entitled to my opinion. This is kind of the problem with TOG. Pretentious people telling others what they can and can't, should and shouldn't do.
I didn't tell you what you can't, should and shouldn't do. I simply stated your opinion is invalid when you are so ignorant about the subject. You spend your time on the forums throwing baits and posting irrelevant and stupid comments about people. If you want to discuss and help improve TOG then maybe you could speak to some of the GF team leaders and organisers and involve yourself instead of making comments founded on noting but your own stupidity.
I don't know why anyone actually bothers replying to Quinn at this point to be honest. He spouts his opinion on anything on FSE without any knowledge or points to actually back anything up. Don't waste your time Golden. :)I hope that's a joke, TOG so far has been very successful and the tournaments have been well run. Furthermore the prize pool was handed out unlike previous tournaments. Don't comment on something you barely have a part of or even an understanding.
Well I'm part of the community, so I'm entitled to my opinion. This is kind of the problem with TOG. Pretentious people telling others what they can and can't, should and shouldn't do.
I didn't tell you what you can't, should and shouldn't do. I simply stated your opinion is invalid when you are so ignorant about the subject. You spend your time on the forums throwing baits and posting irrelevant and stupid comments about people. If you want to discuss and help improve TOG then maybe you could speak to some of the GF team leaders and organisers and involve yourself instead of making comments founded on noting but your own stupidity.
Cazadores? Wasnt it you who said against cazadores dont do anything and just skey away! advocate aggresive melee smh.mate let's be honest it's all true.what is killing nw is the boring s keyers like bagins and golden
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I see you lad, can't hide your inner German from me >:(
Cazadores and frenchies are to blame for this i've always been an advocate for aggressive melee. Don't forget Mightypain rated me top #1 aggressive player on his old list!
Cazadores? Wasnt it you who said against cazadores dont do anything and just skey away! advocate aggresive melee smh.mate let's be honest it's all true.what is killing nw is the boring s keyers like bagins and golden
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I see you lad, can't hide your inner German from me >:(
Cazadores and frenchies are to blame for this i've always been an advocate for aggressive melee. Don't forget Mightypain rated me top #1 aggressive player on his old list!
Cazadores has one of the most aggressive flank of all teams imo. I always push back the enemy, I rarely got pushed back on my own side. I would say in the last tournament chimpz was more defensive than cazadores, on my flank for sure.Cazadores? Wasnt it you who said against cazadores dont do anything and just skey away! advocate aggresive melee smh.mate let's be honest it's all true.what is killing nw is the boring s keyers like bagins and golden
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I see you lad, can't hide your inner German from me >:(
Cazadores and frenchies are to blame for this i've always been an advocate for aggressive melee. Don't forget Mightypain rated me top #1 aggressive player on his old list!
you guys deserve to get s keyd against, u boring s keyers
Well i was king at that tournament so I wasn't going to pushYou mean bc I wasn’t there??
I don't know why anyone actually bothers replying to Quinn at this point to be honest. He spouts his opinion on anything on FSE without any knowledge or points to actually back anything up. Don't waste your time Golden. :)I hope that's a joke, TOG so far has been very successful and the tournaments have been well run. Furthermore the prize pool was handed out unlike previous tournaments. Don't comment on something you barely have a part of or even an understanding.
Well I'm part of the community, so I'm entitled to my opinion. This is kind of the problem with TOG. Pretentious people telling others what they can and can't, should and shouldn't do.
I didn't tell you what you can't, should and shouldn't do. I simply stated your opinion is invalid when you are so ignorant about the subject. You spend your time on the forums throwing baits and posting irrelevant and stupid comments about people. If you want to discuss and help improve TOG then maybe you could speak to some of the GF team leaders and organisers and involve yourself instead of making comments founded on noting but your own stupidity.
Let me guess - you’re somehow involved in TOG? Funny that
Your "post history" is just you being an asshat IMO, so personally I couldn't give a single shit about what you have to say.I don't know why anyone actually bothers replying to Quinn at this point to be honest. He spouts his opinion on anything on FSE without any knowledge or points to actually back anything up. Don't waste your time Golden. :)I hope that's a joke, TOG so far has been very successful and the tournaments have been well run. Furthermore the prize pool was handed out unlike previous tournaments. Don't comment on something you barely have a part of or even an understanding.
Well I'm part of the community, so I'm entitled to my opinion. This is kind of the problem with TOG. Pretentious people telling others what they can and can't, should and shouldn't do.
I didn't tell you what you can't, should and shouldn't do. I simply stated your opinion is invalid when you are so ignorant about the subject. You spend your time on the forums throwing baits and posting irrelevant and stupid comments about people. If you want to discuss and help improve TOG then maybe you could speak to some of the GF team leaders and organisers and involve yourself instead of making comments founded on noting but your own stupidity.
Seeing H*rishey opposed to my statement just makes me more confident that my assessment was correct. Idk, talk about me without knowing me, you clearly don’t follow my post history or who I am in the community, but that’s fine, I don’t expect you to, I’m not famous. Calling me ignorant because I’m opposed to TOG, which is clearly a threat to the health of the community, is an interesting way of avoiding healthy discussion. Let me guess - you’re somehow involved in TOG? Funny that
what are you doing over there in the inf community anyway, Quinn?
that's a dangerous zone
I didn't jump to conclusions. I've seen the posts you've made on the majority of threads. I know you have knowledge in the cav scene but in the infantry scene every thread you post on you never have any weight against anything you say. You never back it up. Feel free to go ahead and prove me wrong though I have no issues with people criticizing things I'm involved with. I'm a big boy. :)what are you doing over there in the inf community anyway, Quinn?
that's a dangerous zone
Yes, they read first your name, and if they haven't sucked your cock before they don't even read what you are writing.
At least Voluble messages me on steam and actually hears my opinion, rather than jumping straight to criticising my personality and 'ignorance'.
But really this was one of my problems with TOG; the community cares much more about your name than your ideas.
I didn't jump to conclusions. I've seen the posts you've made on the majority of threads. I know you have knowledge in the cav scene but in the infantry scene every thread you post on you never have any weight against anything you say. You never back it up. Feel free to go ahead and prove me wrong though I have no issues with people criticizing things I'm involved with. I'm a big boy. :)
Because from what I've seen on any posts you've made on the infantry boards you never back up what you say. I don't care about your name or who you are but if you can't back up what you're saying then why should or would anyone listen? If you're just going to throw sentences out there then realistically no one will care.I didn't jump to conclusions. I've seen the posts you've made on the majority of threads. I know you have knowledge in the cav scene but in the infantry scene every thread you post on you never have any weight against anything you say. You never back it up. Feel free to go ahead and prove me wrong though I have no issues with people criticizing things I'm involved with. I'm a big boy. :)
Literally all I said here was that TOG was an awful idea. Which I truly believe. I don't have to post a thesis alongside any comment I make, instead of any sensible reply I just get the usual targeted attacks you'd expect from any infantry board. It's funny that you say you have no issues with criticism when your instant reply to my criticism was 'ignore this guy, don't give him discussion'. Bizarre.
Only reason Vol asked you to add him was because I gave him the thread link. We asked you for a constructive argument and you didn't give one.what are you doing over there in the inf community anyway, Quinn?
that's a dangerous zone
Yes, they read first your name, and if they haven't sucked your cock before they don't even read what you are writing.
At least Voluble messages me on steam and actually hears my opinion, rather than jumping straight to criticising my personality and 'ignorance'.
But really this was one of my problems with TOG; the community cares much more about your name than your ideas.
Only reason Vol asked you to add him was because I gave him the thread link. We asked you for a constructive argument and you didn't give one.
Because from what I've seen on any posts you've made on the infantry boards you never back up what you say. I don't care about your name or who you are but if you can't back up what you're saying then why should or would anyone listen? If you're just going to throw sentences out there then realistically no one will care.
I mean I never mentioned whether you were a no name or not. All I said is I haven't seen you post anything constructive and with your past couple posts you still haven't proven me wrong. I don't condone people saying for you to kill yourself for posting a screenshot, nor have I done it for at least over a year if I ever did so I don't really see what you're getting at to be honest.Only reason Vol asked you to add him was because I gave him the thread link. We asked you for a constructive argument and you didn't give one.
Well I'm not going to post a developed answer when the response to my comment was like 5 ad hominem attacks.Because from what I've seen on any posts you've made on the infantry boards you never back up what you say. I don't care about your name or who you are but if you can't back up what you're saying then why should or would anyone listen? If you're just going to throw sentences out there then realistically no one will care.
'Posts I made on infantry boards' were just some light hearted jokes that I'm great at infantry. Big reveal: I'm shit at infantry. That's the joke. The first thing I even really posted was a screenshot from a gf and I literally had a negative kd. The response to that? Maybe some joke about me being shit? No, I'm told to kill myself. Are you seeing the problem yet? Or are you gonna talk again about the fact that I'm a noname.
The infantry board is funny: "I don't know this guy, so he can kill himself."
The infantry board is funny: "I don't know this guy, so he can kill himself."
shut up noname xD
The infantry board is funny: "I don't know this guy, so he can kill himself."
shut up noname xD
The infantry board is funny: "I don't know this guy, so he can kill himself."
shut up noname xD
I don't mind people doing the same concept for cav whether it's with our name or not. But if it's with the same name/within the same entity then it'd have to be to a certain standard.
I don't mind people doing the same concept for cav whether it's with our name or not. But if it's with the same name/within the same entity then it'd have to be to a certain standard.
Id prefer keeping it within the same entity but I dont speak for the cav community. In the end uve proven to have standard and Idk who we could even put at the head of this in cav
haha f word epic joke mate ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Still waiting for Dan's novel.
Still waiting for Dan's novel.
Oh yeah I need to finish this.Still waiting for Dan's novel.
Still waiting for Dan's novel.
Dan's a teaseI'm lazy. I also became ill halfway through writing it.
pussyDan's a teaseI'm lazy. I also became ill halfway through writing it.
No upussyDan's a teaseI'm lazy. I also became ill halfway through writing it.
Dan's a tease
Turns out Quinn was right about TOG, yikes
Turns out Quinn was right about TOG, yikesCare to expand upon that
will do once I get homeTurns out Quinn was right about TOG, yikesCare to expand upon that
Great, I'm not currently in an active role with TOG due to inactivity but critique and suggestions should be made regarding everything of this nature.will do once I get homeTurns out Quinn was right about TOG, yikesCare to expand upon that
I think this is in regards to mighty pain changing his date of the tournament from the 26th of may to the 2nd of June?this amongst many other things, the lack of transparency and supposed standardisation, which it was supposed to bring, is staggering
This goes against TOG policy and so far no ones talked about it I presume. But I'm not here on the 26th anyway ;D ;D
Atleast make a poll for the date and let the captains decide as what the TOG has been doing everytime maby?!?I think this is in regards to mighty pain changing his date of the tournament from the 26th of may to the 2nd of June?this amongst many other things, the lack of transparency and supposed standardisation, which it was supposed to bring, is staggering
This goes against TOG policy and so far no ones talked about it I presume. But I'm not here on the 26th anyway ;D ;D
TOG does do votes with all Captains. No point in giving it out to anyone else outside of TOG and Cpt's.Votes on what?
Tournament formats. Dates are pre detirmined on team availability (which is never really a problem when its on a Sunday anyway)I'm absolutely for having it happen on the best day for all teams but 1. for Mighty's tournament we were never asked as a team 2. he moved the date without announcing anything on the thread, after having selected the Sunday prior 3. the whole mission of TOG, and this was very specifically stated, was to have a fun tourney on the 2nd Sunday and a proper tourney on the 4th Sunday - so there's obviously a conflict of plans and announcements and what's actually happening. Again I don't mind voting on a date, but then TOG serves absolutely no purpose because if they're not mandating the dates then it's just an organisation who bullied McPero out of hosting a tournament because he had his own date (and format)- oh wait but now we can do that ourselves.
imma probably host a tournament of some sort soonGood man
tog can suck my dick
Hi everyone,Agree with you..! You are explaining with logic. God Bless You.
To those who don't know me, I'm Fotin, I'm playing this game since the summer of 2014. I consider myself as a "competitive player" since the end of 2015, when I joined FrenchTouch.
Today I'm making this topic to share my disappointment about the current NW community. Since 2019 started, I feel like NW is less competitive, people aren't taking the competitions as seriously as in the last year. Also, there is a lack of number of players taking part in the tournaments. I got simple Pinoy channel (http://ofwpinoychannel.com/pinoy-channel/) examples to show it : we're having a fucking nice Duel League and like only 10% of the players that signed up are taking it seriously. Tonight there was a 8v8 tournament : 10 teams only took part in it. I'm hosting the 3rd melee depletion tournament and there is not even 64 players (which is the minimum) to play the tournament.
John Price (or Chriseh) is hosting a new EIC tournament, I really encourage this type of competitions but... I am scared to not have enough people to play it.
I know we're playing on an old game now, and that probably is one of the reasons that explains why the competition is dying, but to me it's not the only reason.
We have an unreliable community. I'm so sad to see that some organizers of leagues spend so many time in this game for nothing. MarxeiL is organizing the TDL (Tiered Duel League), I am one of the moderators in it, and I receive too many messages of the signed up players on Steam saying that this league is useless or shit. Can you please explain me why you signed up if you think that this league is shit ? No. No one can explain it.
Then my theory is symply that people engage themselves in taking part into the competition but they often don't do it, that is why I call our community an unreliable community.
These are the two reasons why, for me, NW competition in 2019 is dead : The game becomes too old and you can't count on the community. And trust me that I'm sad to see this, I hope that Bannerlord will come soon.
Is this deadI was meant to finish my essay now that you mention it.
do it pussyIs this deadI was meant to finish my essay now that you mention it.
Again I don't mind voting on a date, but then TOG serves absolutely no purpose because if they're not mandating the dates then it's just an organisation who bullied McPero out of hosting a tournament because he had his own date (and format)- oh wait but now we can do that ourselves.No you got it all wrong I bullied TOG into changing their system by pretending to want to host a tournament. And then John Price the '1v10ed' just continued my job of keeping them in check. I don't believe I've ever thanked him for that. Thank you John your a good lad.
Legend has it he is still writing that essay.do it pussyIs this deadI was meant to finish my essay now that you mention it.
Is this dead