Union Or Confederacy?

[Blobmania]

Ooooh, that's deep. Wrong, but deep. 

I'm not sure you can call either side "Evil" in this instance - If the Confeds had won, they'd be hailed as heroes by their population, and the Union seen as the tyrants - In a similar sort of way that Great Britain is typically seen as the big-evil-colonial-power in terms of the War of Independence.

[Rejenorst]

Observation, made famous by Winston Churchill, that history tends to be written “by the victors.” Less known and more cheeky was Churchill’s prediction (mostly accurate, it turned out) that “History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it.”

[Nipplestockings]

Observation, made famous by Winston Churchill, that history tends to be written “by the victors.” Less known and more cheeky was Churchill’s prediction (mostly accurate, it turned out) that “History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it.”

I remember Napoleon saying that in the Waterloo movie. Obviously that's a horrible source for facts, but I'm curious as to why they would include that quote in the movie if it was actually spoken 120 years later?

[Rejenorst]

he did say the following:

History is the version of past events that people have decided to agree upon.

[Nipplestockings]

he did say the following:

History is the version of past events that people have decided to agree upon.

That's probably what I was thinking of

[psmith]

I am interested in alternate history and thus lean toward the Confederates to see if history could be changes.  Although didn't the Confederates win most of their battles?  Well truth be told, I will likely join whichever unit my online buds invite me to.  Though wouldn't it be interesting to simulate the war and join up with a geographically-local unit?

[Odysseus]

Did the south start the war.

Yes.

Does this mean they were evil and destroyed the economy.

No.

In war each side is evil.

Exactly.

[TheBoberton]

In war each side is evil.

Exactly.

To paraphrase Patrick Henry;
Are peace and life such wonderful things that great breaches of human rights are tolerable, or injustice and corruption something to be welcomed, if the alternative is war?

Yes, immoral and unjust wars happen. However, justified ones occur often as well. 'Evil' is generally not a black and white issue.

[VonTawast]

To put it even better: Both sides are right.


Don't you just love how people can have completely different perspectives of things in arguments?

[Bramif]

confederate
EDIT: changed my mind 

[Landrik]

Although didn't the Confederates win most of their battles?

The Western theatre was pretty much the Union curbstomping the Confederates. Also, history books don't shed a whole lot of light on after Gettysburg. A lot of sieges, land being torched, horrendous Confederate defeats...

You will hear about Sherman burning through GA and Cold Harbor as well as Appomattox. Truth be told, the American Civil War was a bit more modern in the later stages resembling the trenches of Europe 50 years later. Something the Europeans dismissed when waging war on each other.

EDIT: Siege of Petersburg. Where the unit I reenact, the 30th Virginia Volunteer Infantry defended.

[Millander]

Yes its a shame Europe did not heed to the tatics of the Civil War. Many lives might have been saved some 50 years later as well as in the Fanco Prussian War.

But back on topic I like both the Union and the confederacy. I however plan on being the side with the least amount of NA players. So far it seems like ill be CSA though.

[Bedrockdude10]

Well I'm no expert, but the confederates weren't fighting for slavery 

They were fighting for their independence and right to govern themselves. That seems pretty just to me, I'd be pretty mad too if I had no choice who I was governed by. And plus the Union didn't abolish slavery until after the war started.

Well, they were fighting for independence and to preserve slavery. At first it was for independence, but by 1864 it was all about slavery. By thw way I am a US Civil War expert.

[Augy]

    * american revolution (which promoted freedom for white, male capitalists, and was triggered by the prospect of taxation and slavery abolition)

    * the civil war (which promoted freedom for white, male capitalists, and was triggered by the prospect of taxation and slavery abolition)

i'm noticing a theme... A pretty consistent theme in which is the need for more freedom for white, male capitalists.

I'll stay on the sidelines and watch this ironic display.

[Nipplestockings]

The American revolution had nothing to do with capitalism or slavery abolition, Augy.