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Offline USE4life

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Re: Union Or Confederacy?
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2012, 09:24:00 pm »
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Re: Union Or Confederacy?
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2012, 09:25:42 pm »
Neutral. I'm a hipster you see.

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Re: Union Or Confederacy?
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2012, 09:27:33 pm »
Neutral. I'm a hipster you see.
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Re: Union Or Confederacy?
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2012, 09:28:04 pm »
The Nazi's died for what they believed in but they don't deserve a shred of honor.

There is a great book called "What it is like to go to war." It is outstanding. It covers that topic really well.

"However, the warrior has to be very careful about whom the politicians make out to be devils. We have chosen sides with limited information and limited self knowledge. Many decent Germans ended up sacrificing everything fighting for a government that was murdering millions in concentration camps and saying it was defending their fellow countrymen against the onslaught of Bolshevism and "international Jewry." For myself and many other Americans, a generation later, we ended up fighting for a government that was napalming villages to defend the shoppers back home against the evils of "international Communism." These "devils" begin to look suspiciously similar-and spurious. it is precisely along these lines that I became appalled at the rhetoric that came out of Washington in support of going to war in Iraq and Afghanistan. I supported going after Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, but most terrorists aren't devils-they're simply just horribly ignorant people who got riled up casting our side as devils." (Karl marlantes, What it is Like to go to war)

As a side note, I feel that everyone needs to read this book. Especially if you have ever been in combat or are preparing to join the military. That way, we know what we are sending these kids to go do when we go to war. It will make it easier for them when they come home and easier for us to help them.
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Re: Union Or Confederacy?
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2012, 09:29:42 pm »
Confederacy!
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Re: Union Or Confederacy?
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2012, 09:30:38 pm »
Does any of you guy's actually realise, that it wouldn't have made any differents that the Confederates allowed slavery? If the CSA won the war and remained an own nation. Then they would have need to ban slavery anyway, otherwise the UK and other major nations at that time would never have recognized them as an independent country. Quite some Confederates were even against slavery, and most of those fought more for their own state. I bet only a couple really fought for keeping the slavery.

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Re: Union Or Confederacy?
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2012, 09:31:03 pm »
I'll look into that book - sounds interesting. I agree that many 'foot soldiers' don't know the whole story and are often brainwashed but there are certain limits where that argument becomes unusable.
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Re: Union Or Confederacy?
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2012, 09:39:26 pm »
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Re: Union Or Confederacy?
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2012, 09:45:31 pm »
Plus you still didn't answer my last response :P
I answered it in the first posts I made - I believe it was fought for slavery. I don't want to go on about it all night however - I'm meant to be studying :P
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Re: Union Or Confederacy?
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2012, 10:09:57 pm »
take it to PMs for gods sake  ::)

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Re: Union Or Confederacy?
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2012, 10:12:43 pm »
take it to PMs for gods sake  ::)
They're not being disrespectful about it, the conversation is for other people's input as well.
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Re: Union Or Confederacy?
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2012, 10:20:24 pm »
Plus our argument finished around 1 hour ago almost.
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Re: Union Or Confederacy?
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2012, 10:28:17 pm »
I would personally fight for union b/c of my beliefs against slavery. Buts its more fun to play as confederacy if b/c the south shall riiiiseeee agan!

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Re: Union Or Confederacy?
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2012, 10:32:36 pm »
Confederacy, cause then I can make the entire regiment rebel yell in their mics as they charge

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Re: Union Or Confederacy?
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2012, 10:51:06 pm »
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