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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5325 on: November 10, 2020, 03:56:43 pm »
I mean it's pretty well established that poor people spend money, rich people save it.
Money that working class people get goes back into the local economy, creating jobs and stimulating growth, while with each transaction the government skims off tax. Even once they're comfortably paying for all their necessities, they still splash out on "luxuries" when they can afford them.
Contrast that with rich people who store it in off-shore shell companies in countries you can't touch, or just pay someone to estimate the value of a piece of modern art as however many million they owe in tax and donate it to claim back against tax.

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5326 on: November 10, 2020, 05:27:20 pm »
Isnt it proven that something like a UBI would massively boost the economy?
where?

Well big brains have done some big math and many think it would boost the economy. And it seems like common sense honestly. Take some of the tax money that mega corporations are paying and give some of it back to the middle and lower class. Then they spend that money on whatever, so it then sends that money right back into the economy by using money that is already there. Instead of them pretending that they use it on infrastructure and military etc. When they actually are just hoarding it and wasting it on dumb fuck programs that do nothing for majority of people. And the idea that it encourages laziness could be partly true, but the amount would barely be enough to live on. So people would have to work if they wanted anything extra or better. And even if some people do get lazy with it. They are still going to be spending that money so it still goes back into the economy.
so if you raise taxes on the mega corporations wouldn’t they raise the prices of their products to cover it? That seems like the common sense thing to me. Although I guess people would just use that money to buy stuff from the mega corporations to. Either way I just think it creates a unneeded reliance on the government who usually sucks at their job

Didn’t you say you were a republican?
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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5327 on: November 10, 2020, 08:20:03 pm »
Are we talking about the economy ?
Just break up the big monopolies when needed and we're all good

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5328 on: November 10, 2020, 10:26:25 pm »
Isnt it proven that something like a UBI would massively boost the economy?
where?

Well big brains have done some big math and many think it would boost the economy. And it seems like common sense honestly. Take some of the tax money that mega corporations are paying and give some of it back to the middle and lower class. Then they spend that money on whatever, so it then sends that money right back into the economy by using money that is already there. Instead of them pretending that they use it on infrastructure and military etc. When they actually are just hoarding it and wasting it on dumb fuck programs that do nothing for majority of people. And the idea that it encourages laziness could be partly true, but the amount would barely be enough to live on. So people would have to work if they wanted anything extra or better. And even if some people do get lazy with it. They are still going to be spending that money so it still goes back into the economy.
so if you raise taxes on the mega corporations wouldn’t they raise the prices of their products to cover it? That seems like the common sense thing to me. Although I guess people would just use that money to buy stuff from the mega corporations to. Either way I just think it creates a unneeded reliance on the government who usually sucks at their job

Didn’t you say you were a republican?
The most cost effective UBI would be a UBI that replaces many existing welfare programs

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5329 on: November 11, 2020, 05:57:52 am »
Isnt it proven that something like a UBI would massively boost the economy?
where?

Well big brains have done some big math and many think it would boost the economy. And it seems like common sense honestly. Take some of the tax money that mega corporations are paying and give some of it back to the middle and lower class. Then they spend that money on whatever, so it then sends that money right back into the economy by using money that is already there. Instead of them pretending that they use it on infrastructure and military etc. When they actually are just hoarding it and wasting it on dumb fuck programs that do nothing for majority of people. And the idea that it encourages laziness could be partly true, but the amount would barely be enough to live on. So people would have to work if they wanted anything extra or better. And even if some people do get lazy with it. They are still going to be spending that money so it still goes back into the economy.
so if you raise taxes on the mega corporations wouldn’t they raise the prices of their products to cover it? That seems like the common sense thing to me. Although I guess people would just use that money to buy stuff from the mega corporations to. Either way I just think it creates a unneeded reliance on the government who usually sucks at their job

Didn’t you say you were a republican?

Companies nowadays have grown much faster and outpaced wage growth especially on the lower end of the spectrum. Federal minimum wage hasn't been increased since may 2007 where it became 7.25 which should be a little over 9$ if it kept just pace with inflation and not economic growth.

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5330 on: November 11, 2020, 06:13:34 am »
Isnt it proven that something like a UBI would massively boost the economy?
where?

Well big brains have done some big math and many think it would boost the economy. And it seems like common sense honestly. Take some of the tax money that mega corporations are paying and give some of it back to the middle and lower class. Then they spend that money on whatever, so it then sends that money right back into the economy by using money that is already there. Instead of them pretending that they use it on infrastructure and military etc. When they actually are just hoarding it and wasting it on dumb fuck programs that do nothing for majority of people. And the idea that it encourages laziness could be partly true, but the amount would barely be enough to live on. So people would have to work if they wanted anything extra or better. And even if some people do get lazy with it. They are still going to be spending that money so it still goes back into the economy.
so if you raise taxes on the mega corporations wouldn’t they raise the prices of their products to cover it? That seems like the common sense thing to me. Although I guess people would just use that money to buy stuff from the mega corporations to. Either way I just think it creates a unneeded reliance on the government who usually sucks at their job

Didn’t you say you were a republican?

Companies nowadays have grown much faster and outpaced wage growth especially on the lower end of the spectrum. Federal minimum wage hasn't been increased since may 2007 where it became 7.25 which should be a little over 9$ if it kept just pace with inflation and not economic growth.

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what jobs actually pay minimum wage?
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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5331 on: November 11, 2020, 06:31:45 am »
Isnt it proven that something like a UBI would massively boost the economy?
where?

Well big brains have done some big math and many think it would boost the economy. And it seems like common sense honestly. Take some of the tax money that mega corporations are paying and give some of it back to the middle and lower class. Then they spend that money on whatever, so it then sends that money right back into the economy by using money that is already there. Instead of them pretending that they use it on infrastructure and military etc. When they actually are just hoarding it and wasting it on dumb fuck programs that do nothing for majority of people. And the idea that it encourages laziness could be partly true, but the amount would barely be enough to live on. So people would have to work if they wanted anything extra or better. And even if some people do get lazy with it. They are still going to be spending that money so it still goes back into the economy.
so if you raise taxes on the mega corporations wouldn’t they raise the prices of their products to cover it? That seems like the common sense thing to me. Although I guess people would just use that money to buy stuff from the mega corporations to. Either way I just think it creates a unneeded reliance on the government who usually sucks at their job

Didn’t you say you were a republican?

Companies nowadays have grown much faster and outpaced wage growth especially on the lower end of the spectrum. Federal minimum wage hasn't been increased since may 2007 where it became 7.25 which should be a little over 9$ if it kept just pace with inflation and not economic growth.

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i mean if ur argument is that minimum wage people don't work hard enough then whatever so be it but the productivity of American workers as a whole still hasn't kept pace with wage growth

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5332 on: November 11, 2020, 09:10:39 am »
I find it astonishing that America didnt reform its voting system fucking ONCE since it got created. Its so incredibly backwards.


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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5333 on: November 11, 2020, 04:02:03 pm »
I find it astonishing that America didnt reform its voting system fucking ONCE since it got created. Its so incredibly backwards.


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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5334 on: November 12, 2020, 01:12:34 am »
I find it astonishing that America didnt reform its voting system fucking ONCE since it got created. Its so incredibly backwards.


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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5335 on: November 12, 2020, 01:33:01 am »
Whatever makes you happy son
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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5336 on: November 18, 2020, 01:10:39 pm »
Trump is going to win



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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5337 on: November 19, 2020, 04:05:03 pm »
Trump is going to win

He lost weeks ago lul.

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5338 on: November 20, 2020, 01:13:33 pm »
Trump is going to win

He lost weeks ago lul.
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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #5339 on: November 21, 2020, 05:53:10 am »