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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #4575 on: December 10, 2018, 06:29:38 pm »
So if I have the information right, May has postponed a second referendum vote because it would be an overwhelming no? That's quite disappointing just given how terrible she has handled the matter.
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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #4576 on: December 10, 2018, 07:24:31 pm »
If at first you don't get the vote you want, try try again!
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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #4577 on: December 10, 2018, 08:34:54 pm »
So, same shit different day for Theresa May. Anyone else watch Macron's public humiliation live on French TV?

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #4578 on: December 11, 2018, 08:26:22 pm »
Anyone else watch Macron's public humiliation live on French TV?

So... you uh, you gonna link it?

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #4579 on: December 11, 2018, 09:07:16 pm »
Anyone else watch Macron's public humiliation live on French TV?

So... you uh, you gonna link it?


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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #4580 on: December 11, 2018, 10:16:52 pm »
If you feel that adapting your policies to have broader public support is a humilation, I guess that's why British politicians would apparantly rather set their country on fire than admitting they are following a shit direction of policy.

Rumours has it there are enough letters of no confidence for a leadership challenge to start against May. If so, there will be an announcement by tomorrow afternoon.

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #4581 on: December 11, 2018, 10:27:58 pm »
This is either Corbyn's moment or Boris's chance to assume absolute authoritarian power.

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #4582 on: December 12, 2018, 01:01:43 am »
If you feel that adapting your policies to have broader public support is a humilation

He didn't adapt his policies, he did a 180 degree turn (which he was forced to do after almost losing the streets of Paris). He promised a fundamental reform of the French labour market to make it more competitive, but has now ended up having to massively increase the minimum wage. Having given in so easily he will struggle to implement anything else given the French know they can simply take to the streets.

Also you do realise that as a result of these 'emergency handouts' the French budget deficit will be way above (perhaps even double) the Eurozone limit of 2% of GDP? You also realise that the EU Commission is currently losing its shit with Italy for daring to have a budget deficit of merely 2.4%? Will France get away with breaking EU rules for the 1 millionth time in a row? Of course, but Italy might get away with it now too.

Macron promised the Germans that in return for a Eurozone fiscal union he would liberalise the French economy and, together with Berlin, zealously enforce the rules over the other member states. He can't do either of those things now. He has literally managed to fuck both his domestic reforms and EU agenda in the course of a single speech.

 

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #4583 on: December 12, 2018, 09:29:07 am »
New poll.

I have to say, boy, a leadership challenge? What a birthdaygift!

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #4584 on: December 12, 2018, 11:08:12 am »
New poll.

I have to say, boy, a leadership challenge? What a birthdaygift!

Duuring you're wrong again. It's a no-confidence vote not a leadership challenge.

Have a good birthday.

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #4585 on: December 12, 2018, 11:41:34 am »
Ahhh, yeah, you're right. There won't be a leadership election until the no-confidence vote passes. Not that it will. My money is on survival.

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #4586 on: December 12, 2018, 09:33:12 pm »
So...she's won (technically) but will it be by enough votes? Anything over 100 rebels might be enough to oblige her to quit.

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #4587 on: December 12, 2018, 10:20:45 pm »
war is a racket.

always has been always will be.

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Re: The General Political Thread
« Reply #4589 on: December 14, 2018, 03:04:26 pm »
Hungary lmao