The General Political Thread

[Kore]

Have you nerds discussed the skyrocketing amount of farm murders (and white discrimination in general) in South Africa? The world might witness another civil war, this time racial based, very soon.

[Sgt.Winters]

Have you nerds discussed the skyrocketing amount of farm murders (and white discrimination in general) in South Africa? The world might witness another civil war, this time racial based, very soon.

Can't wait for the certain nutbags to say that the whites deserve it for the apartheid

[Kore]

Have you nerds discussed the skyrocketing amount of farm murders (and white discrimination in general) in South Africa? The world might witness another civil war, this time racial based, very soon.

Can't wait for the certain nutbags to say that the whites deserve it for the apartheid

Hopefully, none of them will speak up 

[McPero]

Have you nerds discussed the skyrocketing amount of farm murders (and white discrimination in general) in South Africa? The world might witness another civil war, this time racial based, very soon.

But but evil white man took land from them and expelled them (like 500 years ago)! It is their land that their gods gave them you bigggot!!! Just like God gave land to Hewbrews and now they have permanent claim on it!

[Duuring]

I thought we were including soft euroscepticism? You can believe in a community of European countries whilst still being anti-EU. Orban's vision of such a community is just radically different from that of Merkel's.

Yeah, if you make the broadest definition of a eurosceptic (basically anyone who doesn't want further federalization), maybe their 'bloc' is growing. But with En Marche, so is the federalization bloc. The hard eurosceptic bloc, meanwhile, is shattering.

[StevenChilton]

I'm not sure En Marche are actually going to win big...latest projections have them at c22 MEPs. Largest party sure, but Le Pen's group are projected to get c18, Republicans c14 so it's not *that* big a win compared to who comes 2nd/3rd. Plus if current trends continue then Macron's popularity will potentially fall even further by the time the vote actually happens...next French Presidential election is 2022, Macron will still be pushing through unpopular things in 2019 as it's the middle of the electoral cycle.

[Duuring]

I'm not sure En Marche are actually going to win big...latest projections have them at c22 MEPs. Largest party sure, but Le Pen's group are projected to get c18, Republicans c14 so it's not *that* big a win compared to who comes 2nd/3rd. Plus if current trends continue then Macron's popularity will potentially fall even further by the time the vote actually happens...next French Presidential election is 2022, Macron will still be pushing through unpopular things in 2019 as it's the middle of the electoral cycle.

That's a boost from nothing to +22 which is the most significant single-party shift we are going to see. ALDE doesn't suffer at all from Brexit, so doesn't have any damage to repair (unlike the Eurosceptics). There's also Ciudadanos in Spain which is set to go from 3 seats to 10 to 14. If all the other parties just don't lose anything or wins and losses even eachother out (ANO 2011, for example, is likely to gain two or three Czech seats), just the Spanish and French gains are enough to put ALDE over 100 seats.

[Furrnox]

Good.

[Duuring]

We're obviously still a year off, of course. A lot can happen in a year.

[StevenChilton]

Not sure this is a good idea...
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/01/world/europe/denmark-immigrant-ghettos.html

[McPero]

Not sure this is a good idea...
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/01/world/europe/denmark-immigrant-ghettos.html

Why?

[BabyJesus]

Happy birthday America, the best country in the world

[StevenChilton]

Happy birthday <3

[Theodin]

we did that

[Kore]

Not sure this is a good idea...
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/01/world/europe/denmark-immigrant-ghettos.html

it is