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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #3915 on: June 21, 2018, 10:26:19 pm »
The EU might be heavily influenced by Germany (as other institutions such as UN etc are influenced by people like the US) but that doesn’t make it undemocratic by itself.

And Kore thanks for your interesting addition to the conversation. You’re a real intellectual.
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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #3916 on: June 21, 2018, 11:46:34 pm »
Anytime.
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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #3917 on: June 22, 2018, 12:10:13 am »
Can't wait for EU internet law thing, when there will be no such news left on interent, disgusting fake news. Protecc me EU censorship.

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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #3918 on: June 22, 2018, 08:36:41 am »
When they just had to fuck up something that was good. FEELSFUCKINGBADMAN

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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #3919 on: June 22, 2018, 08:46:20 am »
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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #3920 on: June 22, 2018, 02:33:09 pm »
Airbus threatening to withdraw their business from the UK in the event of a no deal Brexit. They employ 14,000 people. Scary stuff.

Are we still trusting Theresa May to negotiate a deal for our futures?

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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #3921 on: June 22, 2018, 02:58:02 pm »
Airbus would have been leaving regardless of the deal on the table as it's a highly politicised company set up by the EU in the first place. They won't allow any of its significant business operations to remain in a non-EU member state for long, primarily because it's a job creation racket that relies on illegal government subsidy.

UK manufacturing still faces two problems though: maintaining EU certification/license to export post-Brexit, plus whether supply-chains will continue to run as efficiently (if there are long queues at the border you can forget JIT).

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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #3922 on: June 22, 2018, 03:38:42 pm »
Sure it’s heavily owned by EU member stages but it’s surely in the UK’s best interests to persuade them to stay. I’m pretty sure they also have manufacturing bases in China so it’s not solely based in EU countries.
That’s why there’s such a big issue surrounding the access to EU markets. We exported 48% of our goods to the EU in 2016 and that number is sure to drop if some kind of deal isn’t reached to maintain the current trading climate. Although it’s doubtful that would happen without pretty heavy concessions from May.

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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #3923 on: June 22, 2018, 04:18:59 pm »
Re-read my comment. You can't persuade them to maintain a significant presence as it's not a private, commercial operation. It's heavily subsidised by the European Union and they will not be subsidising jobs in the UK post-Brexit.

Airbus operations in China are limited to assembly. The actual heavy manufacturing takes place in the EU and the parts are then shipped over where they're needed. Airbus only has a presence in China because they sell a lot of planes there. Airbus UK will continue but in a heavily reduced capacity.

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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #3924 on: June 22, 2018, 04:27:22 pm »
And how will those jobs be replaced?

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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #3925 on: June 22, 2018, 04:35:52 pm »
No idea, but given the UK has a lot of aviation expertise this presents an opportunity for Boeing, Textron and Bombardier.

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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #3926 on: June 22, 2018, 04:42:32 pm »
And how will those jobs be replaced?
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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #3927 on: June 22, 2018, 04:43:26 pm »
That’s true Steven, but for a number of people Brexit is already going to have ruined them financially. I really worry about the stability of the economy when so many aspects of post Brexit abritain are undecided.

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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #3928 on: June 22, 2018, 06:53:49 pm »
Because according to Toffee it's OK for the EU to ruin people financially, but not Brexit!



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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #3929 on: June 22, 2018, 07:12:12 pm »
Because according to Toffee it's OK for the EU to ruin people financially, but not Brexit!
What a stupid comment. Without a deal with the EU the economy is going to take a massive hit and people are going to lose jobs. Can you honestly say with the way things are going at the minute jay we’re all going to be better off after Brexit? There’s no deal on the table with the EU and no major trading partners have signed new trade deals with us.

3 million jobs are directly linked to exports with the EU. They’re not all reliant on membership of course but the lives of a lot of people are going to be affected with more potential job losses. Even leaked government papers predict lower economic growth outside of the EEA.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.uk.businessinsider.com/how-government-leaked-brexit-economics-paper-compares-to-other-forecasts-2018-1