Jesus Christ the man was sent to prison because he broke the law. It’s not that hard to figure out. Stop acting as if some great injustice has been done against him.
That's what I say about everyone that went to gulag in Soviet Russia.
You clearly don’t know what’s gone on. He was on a suspended sentence for contempt of court and proceeded to commit the same crime again. Hence the prison sentence.
After a 1hr 15minute conversation with Toffee i can confirm he has not watched the liverstream tommy robinson did to see if he released any new information, i can also confirm he was not aware of several news outlets reporting on the charges, names and faces of the alleged and i can also confirm he based his general understanding on what had happened on whaqt someone else has said in something they had written. He is now going off to watch videos himself to make a clarified informed opinion and he will also no longer be spouting absolute bullshit without looking at all the information available. We resume our debate tonight or tommorow when he decides to take his time and look and think for himself instead of being a leftist puppet. k thxs bae
What a biased post. The only thing I didn't know was the time in which the journalism ban was put in place. You actually agreed with me that Tommy Robinson had broken the law and should be in prison for it. If the ban was appropriate or not is irrelevant because Tommy Robinson still chose to disregard the authority of a court which is in breach of his suspended sentence. It may or may not have been new information but that doesn't matter when he still wilfully defied a court order.
Also I've watched that Ben Shapiro video before. I've never denied that Islam needs reform with regards to certain areas such as it's treatment of women. However, labelling them all as evil is a bit far. Christianity also needs reform with it's treatment of the gay population etc. The telling thing about that video is that when he begins talking about Western populations the statistics are either much lower or he changed the question which was asked to traditionally Islamic countries. 78% of people wanting cartoonists prosecuted doesn't mean they support terrorists or want the collapse of Western culture, does it? The fact that these percentages are lower could suggest that the issue isn't inherently imbedded into Islam but in the societies of certain countries themselves. These lower numbers also imply that it is possible and common for Muslims to become perfectly suited to Western society.
It's way too easy to tarnish people with the same brush. For example it would be wrong to call all right wing followers facists or all left wingers communists. It would be wrong to say that all Christians hate gay people and it's wrong to suggest that Islam is an issue in it's entirety rather than a naturally peaceful religion in which some people exploit, as many do with a number of relgions and have done for thousands of years.
"You actually agreed with me that Tommy Robinson had broken the law and should be in prison for it" I agreed he breached the Reporting ban on the case but we both agreed that such a thing should not be in place and even if it was it should be to hide specific details, not the names charges and faces which was already released on the links i showed u.
"If the ban was appropriate or not is irrelevant because Tommy Robinson still chose to disregard the authority of a court which is in breach of his suspended sentence" As i told you it had nothing to do with his suspended sentence and i made that clear to you, he was charged and prisoned for contempt of court FOR livestreaming and reporting when there was a reporting ban, it is common knowledge he didnt break his probation but instead broke a reporting ban therefore leading to bullshit charges for contempt of court when he released no new information.
"However, labelling them all as evil is a bit far. Christianity also needs reform with it's treatment of the gay population etc" Pretty sure gay ppl dont get stoned to death and thrown of buildings in western christian countries? yes its one thing and christianity needs certain reforming but try get a better example.
"These lower numbers also imply that it is possible and common for Muslims to become perfectly suited to Western society" Yes they can become perfectly suited to western society IF they start to fit in and intergrate and mingle with ppl in the communities instead of just congregating in certain areas causing more divide.
"It would be wrong to say that all Christians hate gay people and it's wrong to suggest that Islam is an issue in it's entirety rather than a naturally peaceful religion in which some people exploit, as many do with a number of relgions and have done for thousands of years." Christianity has reformed alot more than Islam and eitherway Islam is prodominetly peaceful and i'm not saying it is not im saying it is too far behind western society and way of life to intergrate efficently within the forseeable future. As the Islamic/Muslim population rises in the UK and Europe, the more divide u will see xD
Also its funny how you stuttered every second during our actual conversation but yet you think your smart when you are typing. I look forward to talking to you later to actually debate instead of tit for tat with bullshit responses.
