The General Political Thread

[Toffee]

Let's get some perspective. If you live in an urban area, especially a major city like London/New York/Paris/etc, then second hand tobacco smoke is the least of your concerns regarding what your children are inhaling. Most towns and cities around the globe, including in the West, have pollution levels far above international standards that are considered safe. Me and my wife are well aware of this. It's safer for my children to be around smokers 24/7 and live in the countryside than it is for them to live in a city with non-smoking parents.

Yes and it would be even safer if you kept them away from smokers as well.

[StevenChilton]

Let's get some perspective. If you live in an urban area, especially a major city like London/New York/Paris/etc, then second hand tobacco smoke is the least of your concerns regarding what your children are inhaling. Most towns and cities around the globe, including in the West, have pollution levels far above international standards that are considered safe. Me and my wife are well aware of this. It's safer for my children to be around smokers 24/7 and live in the countryside than it is for them to live in a city with non-smoking parents.

Yes and it would be even safer if you kept them away from smokers as well.

They are kept away 99% of the time, but it is irrational to be especially concerned about it given other environmental dangers.

[Toffee]

Let's get some perspective. If you live in an urban area, especially a major city like London/New York/Paris/etc, then second hand tobacco smoke is the least of your concerns regarding what your children are inhaling. Most towns and cities around the globe, including in the West, have pollution levels far above international standards that are considered safe. Me and my wife are well aware of this. It's safer for my children to be around smokers 24/7 and live in the countryside than it is for them to live in a city with non-smoking parents.

Yes and it would be even safer if you kept them away from smokers as well.

They are kept away 99% of the time, but it is irrational to be especially concerned about it given other environmental dangers.

It’s not irrational at all. I’m more likely to die in a car crash than a shark attack but it doesn’t mean I’m gonna go and sucker punch a great white.

[Edwin]

Oh well, it's not all bad news. At least there'll most likely be less Irish people now

[~Posh~]

It’s not irrational at all. I’m more likely to die in a car crash than a shark attack but it doesn’t mean I’m gonna go and sucker punch a great white.

at least you could try

[DaMonkey]

when some sperg posting on a forum for a terrible, dead game tells you not to further your genealogical line because you wouldn't mollycoddle your child every waking moment of their existence

[close]

[Toffee]

when some sperg posting on a forum for a terrible, dead game tells you not to further your genealogical line because you wouldn't mollycoddle your child every waking moment of their existence

[close]

When you use an incredibly outdated meme to defend smoking around children. I'm sure you wouldn't want your kiddo being in a car filled with cigarette smoke would you? Ya know, since it causes cancer.

[McPero]

Just let your kids inhale exaust gases from car if you live in a city. Good air,also removes particles.

Second hand smoking is bad, some say its worse than active. #remofCigarettes

Thinking abortion is a murder is a bit weird considering your body kills millions of similar life forms everyday.

[Furrnox]

That's why I cry everytime I jerk off.

[DaMonkey]

when some sperg posting on a forum for a terrible, dead game tells you not to further your genealogical line because you wouldn't mollycoddle your child every waking moment of their existence

[close]

When you use an incredibly outdated meme to defend smoking around children. I'm sure you wouldn't want your kiddo being in a car filled with cigarette smoke would you? Ya know, since it causes cancer.

Yes, it's not good. Your response telling him he would make a terrible father was to him saying he wouldn't freak out of it occurred on rare occasions. For instance, I wouldn't allow smoking in my house (we'll ignore that it ruins the value of your home) because of the heavy health impacts - but that doesn't mean I wouldn't allow my children to visit their extended kin on Christmas who do smoke. The reason your comment was so silly is because it was a drastic extreme to an exceptionally reserved behavior.

[Toffee]

Well I’m sorry to break it to you, but allowing your kids to be in the same room as somebody smoking increases their risk of cancer.

[DaMonkey]

What an emphatic revelation.

[Toffee]

What an emphatic revelation.

Well if it’s so clear to you then why are you getting involved? If he’s okay with people smoking around his kids then it obviously isn’t good for them.

[StevenChilton]

Well I’m sorry to break it to you, but allowing your kids to be in the same room as somebody smoking increases their risk of cancer.

As I've pointed out to you, using scientific evidence, it probably doesn't. Even studies that suggest it does increase the risk mostly state that a) it's only in the case of long-term exposure, and b) it's in their view a slight risk factor anyway that's far outweighed by urban pollution

[Toffee]

Well I’m sorry to break it to you, but allowing your kids to be in the same room as somebody smoking increases their risk of cancer.

As I've pointed out to you, using scientific evidence, it probably doesn't. Even studies that suggest it does increase the risk mostly state that a) it's only in the case of long-term exposure, and b) it's in their view a slight risk factor anyway that's far outweighed by urban pollution

And as I said to you, there are many studies and prominent institutions that disagree with you. Also, of course it’s not short term. You don’t just get cancer with a click of the fingers. Same with actual smokers. But that doesn’t make it healthy, does it?