The General Political Thread

[Furrnox]

Maybe but Turkey is on Russia level of shit atm.

[McPero]

Maybe but Turkey is on Russia level of shit atm.

How about UAE taking Socotra from Yemen? Oh wait UAE is USA ally thus their actions must be legal.

Turkey is sad they were on such a great path.

[Furrnox]

You know the intervention is lead by Saudi Arabia right?

[Kore]

It might sound radical but I support the idea of joint security if it’s properly controlled by all of the contributors instead of a single one. There will come a time when Europe won’t be able to rely on the US and we need to look to ourselves to defend each other. Closer bonds and connections only serve to maintain the longest relative peace the continent has ever seen.

Defend each other, sure, but not as one army controlled by some illiterate idiots in Brussel.

[McPero]

You know the intervention is lead by Saudi Arabia right?

Intervention into Yemen? Saudi and UAE aee close allies what is your point here?

[Toffee]

It might sound radical but I support the idea of joint security if it’s properly controlled by all of the contributors instead of a single one. There will come a time when Europe won’t be able to rely on the US and we need to look to ourselves to defend each other. Closer bonds and connections only serve to maintain the longest relative peace the continent has ever seen.

Defend each other, sure, but not as one army controlled by some illiterate idiots in Brussel.

Controlled by a council which has elected individuals from each country

[Kore]

It might sound radical but I support the idea of joint security if it’s properly controlled by all of the contributors instead of a single one. There will come a time when Europe won’t be able to rely on the US and we need to look to ourselves to defend each other. Closer bonds and connections only serve to maintain the longest relative peace the continent has ever seen.

Defend each other, sure, but not as one army controlled by some illiterate idiots in Brussel.

Controlled by a council which has elected individuals from each country

Yeah that's what NATO is for

[Toffee]

It might sound radical but I support the idea of joint security if it’s properly controlled by all of the contributors instead of a single one. There will come a time when Europe won’t be able to rely on the US and we need to look to ourselves to defend each other. Closer bonds and connections only serve to maintain the longest relative peace the continent has ever seen.

Defend each other, sure, but not as one army controlled by some illiterate idiots in Brussel.

Controlled by a council which has elected individuals from each country

Yeah that's what NATO is for

Except NATO isn’t just Europe

[StevenChilton]

It might sound radical but I support the idea of joint security if it’s properly controlled by all of the contributors instead of a single one. There will come a time when Europe won’t be able to rely on the US and we need to look to ourselves to defend each other. Closer bonds and connections only serve to maintain the longest relative peace the continent has ever seen.

Defend each other, sure, but not as one army controlled by some illiterate idiots in Brussel.

Controlled by a council which has elected individuals from each country

Yeah that's what NATO is for

Except NATO isn’t just Europe

Which is a good thing. Only a 'little European' would want NATO to shrink. Any European defensive structure has to keep the Americans in, the Germans down and the Russians out.

[Toffee]

It might sound radical but I support the idea of joint security if it’s properly controlled by all of the contributors instead of a single one. There will come a time when Europe won’t be able to rely on the US and we need to look to ourselves to defend each other. Closer bonds and connections only serve to maintain the longest relative peace the continent has ever seen.

Defend each other, sure, but not as one army controlled by some illiterate idiots in Brussel.

Controlled by a council which has elected individuals from each country

Yeah that's what NATO is for

Except NATO isn’t just Europe

Which is a good thing. Only a 'little European' would want NATO to shrink. Any European defensive structure has to keep the Americans in, the Germans down and the Russians out.

Says who? Why can't Europe protect itself? The Americans are talking about withdrawing funding from Nato so the natural place for us to turn is to eachother

[Duuring]

The Americans don't fund NATO. And Trump is only spending more on the armed forces, not less.

[Toffee]

The Americans don't fund NATO. And Trump is only spending more on the armed forces, not less.

They send a lot of military aid to NATO members, Trump has threatened to cut that funding

[Duuring]

Like what? Is he closing down basis in Europe? Bringing back ships to the continental US?

[Toffee]

Like what? Is he closing down basis in Europe? Bringing back ships to the continental US?

I guess I was wrong about the funding being specific for nato as it’s actually for countries that don’t vote with the us in the UN, which could include some nato countries but he said that nato members couldn’t be sure of US support if they don’t pay their 2%

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/492341/

[StevenChilton]

What is Europe defending itself from exactly? Russia is a country in steep decline and Germany is committed to dominating the continent via non-military means. An EU military is a vanity project for offensive, rather than defensive, purposes. The minute it happens you can already tell they'll be sent to somewhere like Africa for peacekeeping or whatever, but in reality it'll be to show it off as a kind of perverse media stunt.

For the UK it's a different choice and we're already going further down the Anglosphere/CANZUK military route. Makes sense given we're already highly integrated with them (5 Eyes, TTCP, ABCA Armies, etc).