The General Political Thread

[Toffee]

Council,  Putin admitted that special forces were in the Ukraine. It even says it in that article I linked.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/vladimir-putin/12054164/Vladimir-Putins-annual-press-conference-2015-live.html
There is another article if you need it. Now where is the evidence for your claims?

[McPero]

Sure, fair enough, but they go hand in hand.

Yeah but so do capitalism and dictatorship sometimes, so it is really inconvenient to call dictatorship communism.

[Duuring]

How can you not see how Olafson is obviously just trolling you? Jeez, it's so easy.

No but srsly drone strikes were used in Vietnam right? And war ending because of free speech makes everything okay apparently, not to mention war also ended because USA got rekt. And USA got punished really hard by the international community.

How can you interpret someone's argument this wrong?

No he has a reason to be scared when you look at what USA is doing. It seems like you don't believe in sovereignty of countries/nations but rather in global USA empire.

Do you really think NATO wants to invade Russia?

[McPero]

How can you interpret someone's argument this wrong?

No he has a reason to be scared when you look at what USA is doing. It seems like you don't believe in sovereignty of countries/nations but rather in global USA empire.

Do you really think NATO wants to invade Russia?

It wasn't even an argument.

If they could they would. But currently they don't want to because it would mean nuclear war.

Tell me what gives USA right to invade anyone they would like to while nobody else is allowed to. Why is USA when going to war peace keeper and when other countries go to war they are agressors.

[Edwin]

Yeah but so do capitalism and dictatorship sometimes, so it is really inconvenient to call dictatorship communism.

Capitalism and dictatorship go hand in hand? Moronic

[Duuring]

So we would if Russia had no nukes?

[McPero]

So we would if Russia had no nukes?

Yes probably wouldn't be open invasion but rather proxy war where NATO would instal own puppet goverment and add Russia to the NATO.

[Duuring]

Why?

[McPero]

Why?

Huge amounts of natural resources (gas, platinum, rhodium...), envelopment of China which would be last opposing country.

[Duuring]

All of which Russia is already selling to NATO because it's basicaly its entire economy?

[McPero]

All of which Russia is already selling to NATO because it's basicaly its entire economy?

It would be owned by USA companies.

[Duuring]

I think you are slightly underestimating the costs of war and the democratic control in the USA.

[Toffee]

Can we all just agree that Mcpero and Council base their arguments on fantasy and Russian propaganda and don’t understand the basics of everything they argue for and against. They ignore facts and proof and make statements that only exist in their own realities and therefore can’t be proven.

[McPero]

I think you are slightly underestimating the costs of war and the democratic control in the USA.

USA needs war to keep military industry running. Cost of war doesn't matter in that case. There might not even be a war if USA would set up sucessful coup.

Can we all just agree that Mcpero and Council base their arguments on fantasy and Russian propaganda and don’t understand the basics of everything they argue for and against. They ignore facts and proof and make statements that only exist in their own realities and therefore can’t be proven.

You can but that would just show how ignorant you are and brianwashed by western propaganda. What facts and proofs am I ignoring? You ignore logic and believe in some unrealistic ideas.

[Duuring]

I know, but Hoi3 keeps crashing. Need something to waste time on.

USA needs war to keep military industry running. Cost of war doesn't matter in that case. There might not even be a war if USA would set up sucessful coup.

Wait, your whole argument is that NATO wants to coup/proxy-war Putin out but doesn't because of nukes. So NATO doesn't want Putin to nuke Russia?