The General Political Thread

[Olafson]

Is it Turkey i.e. the worst of the NATO countries?

[DaMonkey]

Worst of the NATO countries is a very competitive title.

[McPero]

Is it Turkey i.e. the worst of the NATO countries?

No.

[Conway]

So the U.S at the current height of its global strength, given no other interventionist superpower left, is failing after 7 years to topple the already disliked Assad, when in the past they've taken out more stable countries like Chile in a day. The U.S is really giving its all isn't it?

[Duuring]

So the U.S at the current height of its global strength, given no other interventionist superpower left, is failing after 7 years to topple the already disliked Assad, when in the past they've taken out more stable countries like Chile in a day. The U.S is really giving its all isn't it?

Different situation, obviously. Also, the religious factor is a little more present.

Yes but Assad most likely didn't use gas if that is what you are applying here.

Even if he didn't, his entire regime is basically a long list of warcrimes. Or are you saying Assad or his forces are innocent of any (war)crimes or crimes against humanity? Is that what you truly believe? And please don't answer this question with 'But the USA/west'.

Yes there would be no war because his regime was to strong if you believe rebels could achive anything without support of west you are delusional

There would be no war if there hadn't been an Assad regime.

[McPero]

So the U.S at the current height of its global strength, given no other interventionist superpower left, is failing after 7 years to topple the already disliked Assad, when in the past they've taken out more stable countries like Chile in a day. The U.S is really giving its all isn't it?

Was Russian army in Chile? Was Chile really more stable? Not to mention in Chile Chilean army took over. Why would USA support rebels to overthrow regime and then suddenly say oh nevermind let him stay. Just because USA is the strongest global military power that doesn't makes it allmighty.  USA also lost in Vietnam where it actually had own military force and lost in Iran.

[Toffee]

You failed to answer the question without mentioning the USA

[Furrnox]

McPero are you Russian?

No. I live in a NATO country.

I thought you were a Serb tbh.

[McPero]

So the U.S at the current height of its global strength, given no other interventionist superpower left, is failing after 7 years to topple the already disliked Assad, when in the past they've taken out more stable countries like Chile in a day. The U.S is really giving its all isn't it?

Different situation, obviously. Also, the religious factor is a little more present.

Yes but Assad most likely didn't use gas if that is what you are applying here.

Even if he didn't, his entire regime is basically a long list of warcrimes. Or are you saying Assad or his forces are innocent of any (war)crimes or crimes against humanity? Is that what you truly believe? And please don't answer this question with 'But the USA/west'.

Yes there would be no war because his regime was to strong if you believe rebels could achive anything without support of west you are delusional

There would be no war if there hadn't been an Assad regime.

Yes I agree there would be no war if UK kept Syria as colony and treated people well. But if there would be no Assad there would be some other dictator maybe even worse or do you propose it would somehow turn to a Scandinavian model of democracy state?  Or perhaps anarchy?

Of course he commited crimes almost every army in every war comits warcrimes, of there was serious civil war in UK,  UK goverment would commit them as well.

[McPero]

You failed to answer the question without mentioning the USA

'you failed to answer without using words' what kind of arguments are this?

[Furrnox]

At this point I'd almost want Assad to win this war so this whole people are dying thing could be done with.

Hopefully he would give Northern Syria/The Kurds some autonomy that would be a small victory at least.

[Kore]

At this point I'd almost want Assad to win this war so this whole people are dying thing could be done with.

Hopefully he would give Northern Syria/The Kurds some autonomy that would be a small victory at least.

Impossible.

[McPero]

At this point I'd almost want Assad to win this war so this whole people are dying thing could be done with.

Hopefully he would give Northern Syria/The Kurds some autonomy that would be a small victory at least.

North West Syria held by kurds is doomed since Turkish military is taking their land. North East I think he will be forced to give up maybe.

[Toffee]

You failed to answer the question without mentioning the USA

'you failed to answer without using words' what kind of arguments are this?

You point fingers away from Assad, use hypothetical arguments to accuse other countries and quite frankly chat shite

[McPero]

You failed to answer the question without mentioning the USA

'you failed to answer without using words' what kind of arguments are this?

You point fingers away from Assad, use hypothetical arguments to accuse other countries and quite frankly chat shite

It was literally question about USA so kinda hard to answer without using word USA.