The General Political Thread

[DaMonkey]

You seriously think states are gonna raise a militia in 2017?

I didn't see this. The amusing thing is that States do currently have militias currently, though they're legislatively called State Defense Forces. Texas' is the most impressive, with six regiments, two air wings, various engineer battalions, a Medical brigade and a maritime regiment for coastal patrols.

Additionally, rather or not they would is irrelevant; it's a right afforded to the States. Rights exist rather you exercise them or not, and rather you need them or not.

You came in patronising people for not knowing gun laws.

Probably because there are people spouting strong opinions with fallacious information to base said opinions on.

Don't try and frame it as though you were only pointing out that there are already background checks because, in some cases there aren't.

For private sales between to citizens, there is not a requirement. That does not make a statement of "there are no background checks" correct.

[Toffee]

Yes but why does that mean citizens need to privately own rifles? Can't they become property of the state?

From what I've read citizens are put through the NICS system but that doesn't correlate to a direct mental health evaluation.

[StevenChilton]

Most US mass shootings are carried out by the mentally ill (individual shootings on the other hand are mostly down to gang violence). They were very rare in American society pre-1970 despite high levels of gun ownership and even laxer gun control laws than now. If you look at the timeline comparing deinstitutionalisation of the mentally ill and US mass shooting events then the correlation is very obvious. The solution is to start building more mental hospitals and put people in them.

Anyone advocating US gun control needs to explain how that could work in a society a) with more guns than people, and b) where gun culture is heavily embedded.

[Toffee]

Okay, so like I said it's a choice between better healthcare or gun control. Both of which the US seem to struggle grasping.

[Riddlez]

If that were the case the Russians would not have adopted a new caliber for their small arms more akin to the 5.56x45 NATO.

I am quite fine with you schooling me in Gun laws in the U.S., but I'd urge you to think further than only what a round does in terms of its capacity to kill people.

7.62 rifles are higher powered, requiring... well... more actual rifle, which means more weight, which means more fatigue and it means less accurate shots in an enduring firefight and a more cumbersome rifle. Considering war is increasingly fought in ubran areas 5.56 rounds are more suitable. The only thing 5.56 does not make itself useful is when fighting thugs in the desert armed with AKs shooting double the distance almost all 5.56 rifles do. so yes, it is sensible that Russia is swtiching to 5.56

And yes, that still makes 7.62 the most suitable for precision shootingm there are still Designated Marksmen and snipers and sharpshooters and 7.62 is still the best round from them.

[Prince_Eugen]

I would say, the AK with 5.45 round is more deadlier than a 7.62 one, so you have to match 5.56 with 5.45 round, not 7.62.

[Ambiguous]

I would say, the AK with 5.45 round is more deadlier than a 7.62 one, so you have to match 5.56 with 5.45 round, not 7.62.

Trust Ukrainians, after all who else has more experience with fighting AK's 

[Fwuffy]

tfw in the Czech election the guy from the party leading the polls owns the largest Czech media company :>

[Nero_]

still dre day nigga
ak nigga

[Ambiguous]

still dre day nigga
ak nigga

inb4 muted again. You don't care about your life do you nero?

[Prince_Eugen]

On AK you dont have to switch to 5.56 when you have 5.45, it's obvious. Also, tfw when someone calls AK usefull for a long range firefight. AK is very unstable in accuracy, also it has major problems after firing 2-3 mags - accuracy drops so much.

[Nero_]

muh one teps in csgo

[Ambiguous]

On AK you dont have to switch to 5.56 when you have 5.45, it's obvious. Also, tfw when someone calls AK usefull for a long range firefight. AK is very unstable in accuracy, also it has major problems after firing 2-3 mags - accuracy drops so much.

I agree, Short-Medium combat range AK is the coolest weapon

[Toffee]

I think I the debate over which ammunition is better has become slightly off topic

[Ambiguous]

I think I the debate over which ammunition is better has become slightly off topic

Communism did nothing wrong.