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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #1200 on: August 07, 2017, 02:30:25 am »
Was talking to a family member today who works for EDF. He says that if we leave the EU we'll be forced to renegotiate certain treaties with separate nations in regards to our nuclear fuel. This will take time and, in the mean time, we'll apparently lose a significant portion of our energy production.

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« Reply #1201 on: August 07, 2017, 03:01:22 am »
Was talking to a family member today who works for EDF. He says that if we leave the EU we'll be forced to renegotiate certain treaties with separate nations in regards to our nuclear fuel. This will take time and, in the mean time, we'll apparently lose a significant portion of our energy production.
I mean, a few member states already crippled their energy industries in the name of green energy, so if you're worried about losing energy capability blaming any potential EU exit is a definite cop out..

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #1202 on: August 07, 2017, 03:03:18 am »
Was talking to a family member today who works for EDF. He says that if we leave the EU we'll be forced to renegotiate certain treaties with separate nations in regards to our nuclear fuel. This will take time and, in the mean time, we'll apparently lose a significant portion of our energy production.
I mean, a few member states already crippled their energy industries in the name of green energy, so if you're worried about losing energy capability blaming any potential EU exit is a definite cop out..
Hardly a cop out. The causes of the aforementioned energy loss is directly related to exit from the EU.

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« Reply #1203 on: August 07, 2017, 12:48:33 pm »
Not to mention Antwerp and Hamburg will look sufficiently more interesting than Rotterdam.
Probably one of the very few old-timers here who hasn't been a regimental leader.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #1204 on: August 07, 2017, 01:32:06 pm »
Major win for Poland/Hungary
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/837904/European-Union-EU-tries-mend-fences-East-West-migration

The worst thing you can do is draw a line in the sand, make a threat (Article 7), and then don't go through with it when it's crossed. I'd say the increasing East/West divide is a bigger problem for the EU than Brexit.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #1205 on: August 07, 2017, 03:03:47 pm »
That's because Brexit isn't our problem. It's all yours.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #1206 on: August 07, 2017, 03:06:54 pm »
As much as I would agree Duuring that the UK leaving the EU is a bad thing, saying that it's not a problem for the EU is completely wrong.

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« Reply #1207 on: August 07, 2017, 03:22:45 pm »
Does it negatively effect us? Of course. But we didn't create the problem, nor do we have anything to do with fixing it. It's pretty obvious the EU wants brexit to be as soft as possible - in fact, we rather wish they didn't leave at all. The whole 'soft-hard-no-yes'-debate is irrelevant to us.

To be fair, I'm somewhat happy Brexit is happening. Either way, it is gonna be thé example for decades to come. If Britain ends up worse, the whole notion of leaving the EU will lose all political credibility. The debate will shift to reforming the EU, and then the great hypocrisy of the Eurosceptics (Complaining it's undemocratic, yet blocking any reform because they want to protect national power) might eventually come back to bite them: A strong wish for a democratic EU is the best way tolead to a directly elected, strong and federal European Union, the exact thing the Eurosceptics are trying to avoid.

Of course, if Britian benefits from Brexit, it will greatly boost the anti-EU sentiments in more memberstates. So all we can really do (and what I most certaintly will be doing), is sit back and wait.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #1208 on: August 07, 2017, 06:17:43 pm »
No offence Duuring but British eurosceptics have not blocked EU reforms, the position has been clear for a long time which is that the other 27 can do what they want but Britain will probably opt-out of it. We didn't block the creation of the Euro, the Amsterdam/Nice/Lisbon reforms, the ECB bailout packages etc. The country which has used its veto more than any other member state in the history of the EU is of course France.

The only thing the UK has blocked is an EU military, and if we didn't block it a large number of other member states would have. The French are wary of it, Eastern Europe ain't gonna risk NATO and alienating the Americans, German public opinion is fairly hostile...

I don't know how Brexit will turn out-I'm not a fan of Mrs May's negotiating strategy but the UK has avoided all the negative economic forecasts that were supposed to have happened. We were supposed to be in recession by now according to the IMF. I think the UK economy will be bumpy during the transition period but it's not going to be the disaster some people are hoping for. The fall in the value of the £, which a lot of people were getting worked up about last June, has actually been of massive benefit.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #1209 on: August 07, 2017, 06:45:29 pm »
Having a fallen currency next to a much larger economic power does indeed have its benefits

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #1210 on: August 09, 2017, 05:34:45 pm »
Major win for Poland/Hungary
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/837904/European-Union-EU-tries-mend-fences-East-West-migration

The worst thing you can do is draw a line in the sand, make a threat (Article 7), and then don't go through with it when it's crossed. I'd say the increasing East/West divide is a bigger problem for the EU than Brexit.
What major win exactly? Poland is about to turn into a undemocratic dictatorial state ruled by the PiS party (voted by 19% of adult population, with many regret) The PiS party itself is ruled by a single guy, Lech Kaczyński, any negative voice within their party gets removed, by now he only has Yes men running around him..
The party is reforming all aspects of life in the country, All government and semi government agencies and even the media have been reformed, any non party member is removed from any office, director, advisory position, the media is now only showing pro PiS news, and the newspapers and tv replicate propaganda level of the soviet union times.
The only block still in their way of absolute control was the courts, which have judges voted on by other judges, from now on however all head judges, and even minor judges in all courts can be freely removed and replaced on a whim by the PiS party.
On top of this the focus point of the PiS party is tradition, Catholicism and absolute control. They even recently banned the ability to get the day after pill, they completely banned any form of abortion, even if your baby is already dead, or if you will die if you keep the child, also if you are raped you cannot abort.
They are also moving to rewrite the Polish constitution to make a irreversible effect to the country.
After their reforms it will be impossible for any new democratic free election, because they will also hold all power over the voting process, the counting and the judges deciding if the vote was democratic..

Why should EU NOT draw a line in the sand?
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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #1211 on: August 09, 2017, 07:10:03 pm »
A hysterical reaction to what is basically just PiS taking on cultural Marxism in Poland.

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #1212 on: August 09, 2017, 07:29:46 pm »
Interested to see what'll happen in the coming weeks in regards to the Americans and North Korea. Trading threats has been the name of the game in recent days ever since some analysts claim that North Korea have succeeded in creating a Nuclear weapon capable of reaching anyone in North America. The UN have agreed to more sanctions upon NK which will remove a third of their exports. Interestingly enough the resolution was supported by the Chinese. Should they enforce this it may finally force North Korea to deescalate it's Nuclear program, although sanctions have never stopped Kim Jong Un before I suppose.

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« Reply #1213 on: August 09, 2017, 07:30:58 pm »
A hysterical reaction to what is basically just PiS taking on cultural Marxism in Poland.

Which included labeling Lech Walesa a anti-Polish traitor. You know, the guy that actually lead the Polish drive against communist rule. Are you really this thick in the head?

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Re: Dutch, German & French Elections Thread, or The General Political Thread
« Reply #1214 on: August 09, 2017, 07:35:25 pm »
If you have nothing to contribute, don't post.
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