Player Ratings (in point order)
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you're actually trolling
you're actually trolling
The last time they made one they were deadly serious until people roasted them and then they pretended they were trolling
you're actually trolling
The last time they made one they were deadly serious until people roasted them and then they pretended they were trolling
what is this in reference to
connar 75, just came 2nd???connar was also bottom-score in the smylie's 7v7 and hasn't been playing regularly so hard to rank really
The 8v8 I did really well with Gi's team and the 7v7 I was top score until the final where yes, I did end bottom but I was just holding Chuckster. Not going for picks as that was the other flanks role in that match. :)connar 75, just came 2nd???connar was also bottom-score in the smylie's 7v7 and hasn't been playing regularly so hard to rank really
old gens keep it coming 8)Old gens don't lose to Nezzor.
old gens keep it coming 8)Old gens don't lose to Nezzor.
you're actually trolling
The last time they made one they were deadly serious until people roasted them and then they pretended they were trolling
what is this in reference to
Just because mages got second doesn't mean ur now suddenly all tier 2 and ur husband is wank
This list is great!;D ;D ;D
1 goal in 40 appearances 🤣🤣🤣
This might be the worst list I've seen outside of Tier 1.
This might be the worst list I've seen outside of Tier 1.
This might be the worst list I've seen outside of Tier 1.
Every time I look it gets worse
List makers when ranking themselves:xD
(https://i.imgur.com/IWfJ2N8.jpg)
LMAO
>IRISH 63
>TWISTER 62
>CODY 73
>MARXEIL 72
>LVOV 52
>DESANT 50
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU GUYS LOOOL
>VEGI 50
>MASKMAN 48
MAN I CAN'T BREATHE
>VEGI 50
>MASKMAN 48
MAN I CAN'T BREATHE
The charts have been updated, as there were some consistency issues due to two different approaches being used interchangeably and unclearly. Some were rated on the basis of comparison with other t1s only, while some were rated in comparison with the scene at large. They're now all done along the lines of the latter.
Finally someone that types my name right, ty Gibby !
Finally someone that types my name right, ty Gibby !
np p1bazz
| Tier 2 (https://i.imgur.com/0aYfwo0.png) 84 Wursti (https://i.imgur.com/0aYfwo0.png) 83 Gerher (https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) 82 Herishey (https://i.imgur.com/0aYfwo0.png) 81 Bunter_Igel GAP (https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) 76 HiReaper (https://i.imgur.com/I85uBSw.png) 73 Steinmann (https://i.imgur.com/JIleiRt.png) 73 MarxeiL (https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) 72 TheDeaD (https://i.imgur.com/oKmSTZw.png) 71 SHype (https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) 71 Narrow (https://i.imgur.com/eHLjyhv.png) 70 Marquez |
I'll just take some of ur players and fix renegade's position
Tier 2
(https://i.imgur.com/0aYfwo0.png) 85 Wursti
(https://i.imgur.com/0aYfwo0.png) 83 Gerher
(https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) 83 Herishey
(https://i.imgur.com/0aYfwo0.png) 81 Bunter_Igel
(https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) 77 HiReaper
(https://i.imgur.com/I85uBSw.png) 75 Steinmann
(https://i.imgur.com/JIleiRt.png) 73 MarxeiL
(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) 71 TheDeaD
(https://i.imgur.com/eHLjyhv.png) 71 Marquez
(https://i.imgur.com/oKmSTZw.png) 71 SHype
(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) 70 Narrow
(https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) 70 Gibby
tier 3
(https://i.imgur.com/0aYfwo0.png) 69 Blacktham
(https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) 69 Hypno
(https://i.imgur.com/dOFmLhS.png) 66 Giorno
(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) 65 Maximou
(https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) 65 Cody
(https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) 61 BlitzKrieg
This might be the worst list I've seen outside of Tier 1.
Every time I look it gets worse
I have legit never seen a worse list in 10 years of NW. I get that it's supposed to be subjective and will always create debates, but this just goes to show whoever made this and helped create this doesn't know NW, its players and its competitive scene, or just lives in a bubble. Especially Tier 2 and lower.
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ec/41/4f/ec414f7d4992b335b342254a07f754d4.jpg)Finally someone that types my name right, ty Gibby !
np p1bazz
This might be the worst list I've seen outside of Tier 1.
Every time I look it gets worse
I have legit never see cela
Renegades/ENG/55th players who only play with each other inflating their own rankings because they're playing 'OK'. I understand you're probably upset that none of you on Star Points would be inflated or anywhere near the position you're placed (although I'll give it to HiReaper, he's actually good).perform whilst not having Achilles babysit you and we'll talk
I'll just take some of ur players and fix renegade's position
Tier 2
(https://i.imgur.com/0aYfwo0.png) 85 Wursti
(https://i.imgur.com/0aYfwo0.png) 83 Gerher
(https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) 83 Herishey
(https://i.imgur.com/0aYfwo0.png) 81 Bunter_Igel
(https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) 77 HiReaper
(https://i.imgur.com/I85uBSw.png) 75 Steinmann
(https://i.imgur.com/JIleiRt.png) 73 MarxeiL
(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) 71 TheDeaD
(https://i.imgur.com/eHLjyhv.png) 71 Marquez
(https://i.imgur.com/oKmSTZw.png) 71 SHype
(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) 70 Narrow
(https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) 70 Gibby
tier 3
(https://i.imgur.com/0aYfwo0.png) 69 Blacktham
(https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) 69 Hypno
(https://i.imgur.com/dOFmLhS.png) 66 Giorno
(https://i.imgur.com/R5wa8jb.png) 65 Maximou
(https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) 65 Cody
(https://i.imgur.com/qTMdkRL.png) 61 BlitzKrieg
Fietta is literrally making a list from other people's list.
Renegades/ENG/55th players who only play with each other inflating their own rankings because they're playing 'OK'. I understand you're probably upset that none of you on Star Points would be inflated or anywhere near the position you're placed (although I'll give it to HiReaper, he's actually good).perform whilst not having Achilles babysit you and we'll talk
Renegades/ENG/55th players who only play with each other inflating their own rankings because they're playing 'OK'. I understand you're probably upset that none of you on Star Points would be inflated or anywhere near the position you're placed (although I'll give it to HiReaper, he's actually good).perform whilst not having Achilles babysit you and we'll talk
maybe but u cant perform if ur getting picked by him consistently in a finals
🤡Renegades/ENG/55th players who only play with each other inflating their own rankings because they're playing 'OK'. I understand you're probably upset that none of you on Star Points would be inflated or anywhere near the position you're placed (although I'll give it to HiReaper, he's actually good).perform whilst not having Achilles babysit you and we'll talk
maybe but u cant perform if ur getting picked by him consistently in a finals
Renegades/ENG/55th players who only play with each other inflating their own rankings because they're playing 'OK'. I understand you're probably upset that none of you on Star Points would be inflated or anywhere near the position you're placed (although I'll give it to HiReaper, he's actually good).perform whilst not having Achilles babysit you and we'll talk
maybe but u cant perform if ur getting picked by him consistently in a finals
@me when you can survive more than 10 seconds without getting first-picked when you don't have a top player to hold your hand
https://youtu.be/Ul8w2KwanFU?t=44
Renegades/ENG/55th players who only play with each other inflating their own rankings because they're playing 'OK'. I understand you're probably upset that none of you on Star Points would be inflated or anywhere near the position you're placed (although I'll give it to HiReaper, he's actually good).perform whilst not having Achilles babysit you and we'll talk
maybe but u cant perform if ur getting picked by him consistently in a finals
@me when you can survive more than 10 seconds without getting first-picked when you don't have a top player to hold your hand
https://youtu.be/Ul8w2KwanFU?t=44
I dont think you've ever even been next to someone who isn't somewhat decent
Congratulations on picking me though, there's only so much you can do when you're the play maker
Renegades/ENG/55th players who only play with each other inflating their own rankings because they're playing 'OK'. I understand you're probably upset that none of you on Star Points would be inflated or anywhere near the position you're placed (although I'll give it to HiReaper, he's actually good).perform whilst not having Achilles babysit you and we'll talk
maybe but u cant perform if ur getting picked by him consistently in a finals
@me when you can survive more than 10 seconds without getting first-picked when you don't have a top player to hold your hand
https://youtu.be/Ul8w2KwanFU?t=44
I dont think you've ever even been next to someone who isn't somewhat decent
Congratulations on picking me though, there's only so much you can do when you're the play maker
my brother in christ, you weren't making plays - plays were being made on you
SpoilerRenegades/ENG/55th players who only play with each other inflating their own rankings because they're playing 'OK'. I understand you're probably upset that none of you on Star Points would be inflated or anywhere near the position you're placed (although I'll give it to HiReaper, he's actually good).perform whilst not having Achilles babysit you and we'll talk
maybe but u cant perform if ur getting picked by him consistently in a finals
@me when you can survive more than 10 seconds without getting first-picked when you don't have a top player to hold your hand
https://youtu.be/Ul8w2KwanFU?t=44
I dont think you've ever even been next to someone who isn't somewhat decent
Congratulations on picking me though, there's only so much you can do when you're the play maker
my brother in christ, you weren't making plays - plays were being made on you[close]
You're delusional, you were consistently S keying against Rikus and I.
SpoilerRenegades/ENG/55th players who only play with each other inflating their own rankings because they're playing 'OK'. I understand you're probably upset that none of you on Star Points would be inflated or anywhere near the position you're placed (although I'll give it to HiReaper, he's actually good).perform whilst not having Achilles babysit you and we'll talk
maybe but u cant perform if ur getting picked by him consistently in a finals
@me when you can survive more than 10 seconds without getting first-picked when you don't have a top player to hold your hand
https://youtu.be/Ul8w2KwanFU?t=44
I dont think you've ever even been next to someone who isn't somewhat decent
Congratulations on picking me though, there's only so much you can do when you're the play maker
my brother in christ, you weren't making plays - plays were being made on you[close]
You're delusional, you were consistently S keying against Rikus and I.
why lie when there’s a VIDEO of the opposite
fietta overrated on this list
fietta overrated on this list
Why aren't you on the list
fietta overrated on this list
Why aren't you on the list
my MM stats mean im too good for this list
SpoilerRenegades/ENG/55th players who only play with each other inflating their own rankings because they're playing 'OK'. I understand you're probably upset that none of you on Star Points would be inflated or anywhere near the position you're placed (although I'll give it to HiReaper, he's actually good).perform whilst not having Achilles babysit you and we'll talk
maybe but u cant perform if ur getting picked by him consistently in a finals
@me when you can survive more than 10 seconds without getting first-picked when you don't have a top player to hold your hand
https://youtu.be/Ul8w2KwanFU?t=44
I dont think you've ever even been next to someone who isn't somewhat decent
Congratulations on picking me though, there's only so much you can do when you're the play maker
my brother in christ, you weren't making plays - plays were being made on you[close]
You're delusional, you were consistently S keying against Rikus and I.
why lie when there’s a VIDEO of the opposite
Then we're watching different videos apart from one round, besides, Flusha got to the quarters, if I wanted to win I'd have taken someone else. It was a demoralising blow after we lost every match anyways, didn't even want to play your match since we knew we already lost and were out the bracket, though we did indeed get a round by you getting picked iirc. This also isn't about me, this is about the placement of Renegades in your list, 2v2 has little relevance.
SpoilerRenegades/ENG/55th players who only play with each other inflating their own rankings because they're playing 'OK'. I understand you're probably upset that none of you on Star Points would be inflated or anywhere near the position you're placed (although I'll give it to HiReaper, he's actually good).perform whilst not having Achilles babysit you and we'll talk
maybe but u cant perform if ur getting picked by him consistently in a finals
@me when you can survive more than 10 seconds without getting first-picked when you don't have a top player to hold your hand
https://youtu.be/Ul8w2KwanFU?t=44
I dont think you've ever even been next to someone who isn't somewhat decent
Congratulations on picking me though, there's only so much you can do when you're the play maker
my brother in christ, you weren't making plays - plays were being made on you[close]
You're delusional, you were consistently S keying against Rikus and I.
why lie when there’s a VIDEO of the opposite
Then we're watching different videos apart from one round, besides, Flusha got to the quarters, if I wanted to win I'd have taken someone else. It was a demoralising blow after we lost every match anyways, didn't even want to play your match since we knew we already lost and were out the bracket, though we did indeed get a round by you getting picked iirc. This also isn't about me, this is about the placement of Renegades in your list, 2v2 has little relevance.
waiting for who said 2v2 has anything to do with this list
cuz it made you mad 😂SpoilerRenegades/ENG/55th players who only play with each other inflating their own rankings because they're playing 'OK'. I understand you're probably upset that none of you on Star Points would be inflated or anywhere near the position you're placed (although I'll give it to HiReaper, he's actually good).perform whilst not having Achilles babysit you and we'll talk
maybe but u cant perform if ur getting picked by him consistently in a finals
@me when you can survive more than 10 seconds without getting first-picked when you don't have a top player to hold your hand
https://youtu.be/Ul8w2KwanFU?t=44
I dont think you've ever even been next to someone who isn't somewhat decent
Congratulations on picking me though, there's only so much you can do when you're the play maker
my brother in christ, you weren't making plays - plays were being made on you[close]
You're delusional, you were consistently S keying against Rikus and I.
why lie when there’s a VIDEO of the opposite
Then we're watching different videos apart from one round, besides, Flusha got to the quarters, if I wanted to win I'd have taken someone else. It was a demoralising blow after we lost every match anyways, didn't even want to play your match since we knew we already lost and were out the bracket, though we did indeed get a round by you getting picked iirc. This also isn't about me, this is about the placement of Renegades in your list, 2v2 has little relevance.
waiting for who said 2v2 has anything to do with this list
Then why are you talking about it
cuz it made you mad 😂SpoilerRenegades/ENG/55th players who only play with each other inflating their own rankings because they're playing 'OK'. I understand you're probably upset that none of you on Star Points would be inflated or anywhere near the position you're placed (although I'll give it to HiReaper, he's actually good).perform whilst not having Achilles babysit you and we'll talk
maybe but u cant perform if ur getting picked by him consistently in a finals
@me when you can survive more than 10 seconds without getting first-picked when you don't have a top player to hold your hand
https://youtu.be/Ul8w2KwanFU?t=44
I dont think you've ever even been next to someone who isn't somewhat decent
Congratulations on picking me though, there's only so much you can do when you're the play maker
my brother in christ, you weren't making plays - plays were being made on you[close]
You're delusional, you were consistently S keying against Rikus and I.
why lie when there’s a VIDEO of the opposite
Then we're watching different videos apart from one round, besides, Flusha got to the quarters, if I wanted to win I'd have taken someone else. It was a demoralising blow after we lost every match anyways, didn't even want to play your match since we knew we already lost and were out the bracket, though we did indeed get a round by you getting picked iirc. This also isn't about me, this is about the placement of Renegades in your list, 2v2 has little relevance.
waiting for who said 2v2 has anything to do with this list
Then why are you talking about it
cuz it made you mad 😂SpoilerRenegades/ENG/55th players who only play with each other inflating their own rankings because they're playing 'OK'. I understand you're probably upset that none of you on Star Points would be inflated or anywhere near the position you're placed (although I'll give it to HiReaper, he's actually good).perform whilst not having Achilles babysit you and we'll talk
maybe but u cant perform if ur getting picked by him consistently in a finals
@me when you can survive more than 10 seconds without getting first-picked when you don't have a top player to hold your hand
https://youtu.be/Ul8w2KwanFU?t=44
I dont think you've ever even been next to someone who isn't somewhat decent
Congratulations on picking me though, there's only so much you can do when you're the play maker
my brother in christ, you weren't making plays - plays were being made on you[close]
You're delusional, you were consistently S keying against Rikus and I.
why lie when there’s a VIDEO of the opposite
Then we're watching different videos apart from one round, besides, Flusha got to the quarters, if I wanted to win I'd have taken someone else. It was a demoralising blow after we lost every match anyways, didn't even want to play your match since we knew we already lost and were out the bracket, though we did indeed get a round by you getting picked iirc. This also isn't about me, this is about the placement of Renegades in your list, 2v2 has little relevance.
waiting for who said 2v2 has anything to do with this list
Then why are you talking about it
You're obsessed with trying to find reasons to rate yourself high, even though you and Cody had competition on who has the last spot in England
So you are saying Desant and Twister are low rated based on NWWC secondary nobody gives a shit about bracket? If you are rating off NWWC how the fuck can IRISH be above Twister then? How can any Irish player be correctly rated when they lost to Scotland and got smashed by England?
Also just to clarify it out bro, before saying that I didn't face some teams/players due to my team performance, you should know that I didn't play the last two tournaments at all. And all "official matches" for past months were only NWWC, in which I particularly carried all matches since came back from a short break when the war started.
I know that the Smiley and Kennedy tournament I play them in troll troll teams but still, especially since the last tournament I carried my team and took second placeMenace
Haha man, you guys are so deluded ;D ;D. Didn't know NL and ESP is a bad opposition to be fair but would be interesting to see you carrying your team which doesn't exist of top players only, at least for once. But I think Nock said enough about it, keep living in your bubble and rating Cody as TOP-20 player ;D ;DSo you are saying Desant and Twister are low rated based on NWWC secondary nobody gives a shit about bracket? If you are rating off NWWC how the fuck can IRISH be above Twister then? How can any Irish player be correctly rated when they lost to Scotland and got smashed by England?
Also just to clarify it out bro, before saying that I didn't face some teams/players due to my team performance, you should know that I didn't play the last two tournaments at all. And all "official matches" for past months were only NWWC, in which I particularly carried all matches since came back from a short break when the war started.
Those are useful caveats to keep in mind, regarding Desant and Twister, but we can only rate based on what we see. As I said, NWWC is not the only consideration and the list is not solely based on team results. I know you didn't play much other than NWWC, but that means NWWC is the only tournament available as reference for you. You did play very well in it, hence why you're in tier 2, but I don't see how performances against players of the calibre you were facing is enough to set you apart. Any tier 2 player would be able to do the same against that opposition.
Funniest thing about lists is pretending teams don’t make playersI always wondered why people rated rikkert so highly when he didnt deserve it, now i know!
A good list with good standings the only thing i would complain about is not me being in the top 10 cause I’m the bestdw you will still make the picks
Vegi noob
Vegi noobYou're the noob here PadaDog! It's a fact cuz this is list is accurate af
you're actually trolling
Imagine that thing being real it is just a dream for u :-\ , just wondering why a na player (yoshie), players who dont play ( epic pizza ) russian noobs (flusha,lvov) or even no names are higher than me ???Vegi noobYou're the noob here PadaDog! It's a fact cuz this is list is accurate af
cya later shitter
(https://i.gyazo.com/fde90be7fc2c04757585157f097e21c0.png)
Stop living in the past. You're dogshit now bye bye!Imagine that thing being real it is just a dream for u :-\ , just wondering why a na player (yoshie), players who dont play ( epic pizza ) russian noobs (flusha,lvov) or even no names are higher than me ???Vegi noobYou're the noob here PadaDog! It's a fact cuz this is list is accurate af
cya later shitter
(https://i.gyazo.com/fde90be7fc2c04757585157f097e21c0.png)
Some of you guys getting a bit shaken about some new gens' opinions :'( Sorry!
even with only 1 hand i can still be better than u and ur whole dogshit regiment man get good !!Stop living in the past. You're dogshit now bye bye!Imagine that thing being real it is just a dream for u :-\ , just wondering why a na player (yoshie), players who dont play ( epic pizza ) russian noobs (flusha,lvov) or even no names are higher than me ???Vegi noobYou're the noob here PadaDog! It's a fact cuz this is list is accurate af
cya later shitter
(https://i.gyazo.com/fde90be7fc2c04757585157f097e21c0.png)
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KhhZc4JsHuAeven with only 1 hand i can still be better than u and ur whole dogshit regiment man get good !!Stop living in the past. You're dogshit now bye bye!Imagine that thing being real it is just a dream for u :-\ , just wondering why a na player (yoshie), players who dont play ( epic pizza ) russian noobs (flusha,lvov) or even no names are higher than me ???Vegi noobYou're the noob here PadaDog! It's a fact cuz this is list is accurate af
cya later shitter
(https://i.gyazo.com/fde90be7fc2c04757585157f097e21c0.png)
Watching Blitz and Gibby defend each other and their cute list they made together is very sweet. Just a shame it's a pile of shit. Not sure why this list was even needed when you have a community run list. This list is a great example of what happens when (most) new gens try to have opinions on the community and the game. smh.Hertz, why do people like you care. I heard that Fietta messaged Gibby, HiReaper and Giorno because he was that mad. Getting butthurt like this in general is just a joke itself
I'm not getting butthurt you muppet. When will people start realising that my posts on FSE have no weight behind them. No malice, mostly no facts and are just a wind up...Watching Blitz and Gibby defend each other and their cute list they made together is very sweet. Just a shame it's a pile of shit. Not sure why this list was even needed when you have a community run list. This list is a great example of what happens when (most) new gens try to have opinions on the community and the game. smh.Hertz, why do people like you care. I heard that Fietta messaged Gibby, HiReaper and Giorno because he was that mad. Getting butthurt like this in general is just a joke itself
Hahahaha so you're also here for the jokes and easy trashtalk?I'm not getting butthurt you muppet. When will people start realising that my posts on FSE have no weight behind them. No malice, mostly no facts and are just a wind up...Watching Blitz and Gibby defend each other and their cute list they made together is very sweet. Just a shame it's a pile of shit. Not sure why this list was even needed when you have a community run list. This list is a great example of what happens when (most) new gens try to have opinions on the community and the game. smh.Hertz, why do people like you care. I heard that Fietta messaged Gibby, HiReaper and Giorno because he was that mad. Getting butthurt like this in general is just a joke itself
Also vegi pipe down. Only 50 rated..
Yes, plus i'm inbetween meetings, and waiting for Raid squads to form on GW2.Hahahaha so you're also here for the jokes and easy trashtalk?I'm not getting butthurt you muppet. When will people start realising that my posts on FSE have no weight behind them. No malice, mostly no facts and are just a wind up...Watching Blitz and Gibby defend each other and their cute list they made together is very sweet. Just a shame it's a pile of shit. Not sure why this list was even needed when you have a community run list. This list is a great example of what happens when (most) new gens try to have opinions on the community and the game. smh.Hertz, why do people like you care. I heard that Fietta messaged Gibby, HiReaper and Giorno because he was that mad. Getting butthurt like this in general is just a joke itself
Also vegi pipe down. Only 50 rated..
Watching Blitz and Gibby defend each other and their cute list they made together is very sweet. Just a shame it's a pile of shit. Not sure why this list was even needed when you have a community run list. This list is a great example of what happens when (most) new gens try to have opinions on the community and the game. smh.6 years in this game and still only tier 5 all time!
Not HiReaper tho, I do rate him.
8 actually. This is why new gens are so stupid and shit. Also get a job you bumWatching Blitz and Gibby defend each other and their cute list they made together is very sweet. Just a shame it's a pile of shit. Not sure why this list was even needed when you have a community run list. This list is a great example of what happens when (most) new gens try to have opinions on the community and the game. smh.6 years in this game and still only tier 5 all time!
Not HiReaper tho, I do rate him.
if old gens are so good why do they care so much about new-gen opinions 8)Because they're whimsical. As I said, SOME new gens have good opinions, but only a few.
Watching Blitz and Gibby defend each other and their cute list they made together is very sweet. Just a shame it's a pile of shit. Not sure why this list was even needed when you have a community run list. This list is a great example of what happens when (most) new gens try to have opinions on the community and the game. smh.Hertz, why do people like you care. I heard that Fietta messaged Gibby, HiReaper and Giorno because he was that mad. Getting butthurt like this in general is just a joke itself
"I've been in the game longer so you should respect me and my opinions" 🤡Half of that is correct. I have been in the game longer than you. But not once did I said you should respect me or my opinions? Not sure where you got that from kid. Stop making lists and go do your homework, or get a job.
"My list brings all the boys to the yardWatching Blitz and Gibby defend each other and their cute list they made together is very sweet. Just a shame it's a pile of shit. Not sure why this list was even needed when you have a community run list. This list is a great example of what happens when (most) new gens try to have opinions on the community and the game. smh.Hertz, why do people like you care. I heard that Fietta messaged Gibby, HiReaper and Giorno because he was that mad. Getting butthurt like this in general is just a joke itself
I mean, it's better to flame on steam and give opinions there than it is publicly. Butthurt no, wasn't complaining about my placement, but yes I had an issue with tier 2 and also tier 1 graphs because they were and still are wrong.
This has made my morning"My list brings all the boys to the yardWatching Blitz and Gibby defend each other and their cute list they made together is very sweet. Just a shame it's a pile of shit. Not sure why this list was even needed when you have a community run list. This list is a great example of what happens when (most) new gens try to have opinions on the community and the game. smh.Hertz, why do people like you care. I heard that Fietta messaged Gibby, HiReaper and Giorno because he was that mad. Getting butthurt like this in general is just a joke itself
I mean, it's better to flame on steam and give opinions there than it is publicly. Butthurt no, wasn't complaining about my placement, but yes I had an issue with tier 2 and also tier 1 graphs because they were and still are wrong.
And they're like, it's better than yours
Damn right it's better than yours
I can teach you, but I have to charge
My list brings all the boys to the yard
And they're like, it's better than yours
Damn right it's better than yours
I can teach you, but I have to charge"
Fietta being upset with this list and telling everyone his list is better than this is just pathetic
But Fietta I don't fucking care dudeFietta being upset with this list and telling everyone his list is better than this is just pathetic
I mean if you were smart, you'd realise my list isn't finished yet and thr part that is finished has the same top 10 players as this one, but again, you're Vegi so I didn't expect as much
But Fietta I don't fucking care dudeFietta being upset with this list and telling everyone his list is better than this is just pathetic
I mean if you were smart, you'd realise my list isn't finished yet and thr part that is finished has the same top 10 players as this one, but again, you're Vegi so I didn't expect as much
ill do my homework when you get a girlfriend"I've been in the game longer so you should respect me and my opinions" 🤡Half of that is correct. I have been in the game longer than you. But not once did I said you should respect me or my opinions? Not sure where you got that from kid. Stop making lists and go do your homework, or get a job.
I'll get a girlfriend when you get a girlfriend, capeesh?ill do my homework when you get a girlfriend"I've been in the game longer so you should respect me and my opinions" 🤡Half of that is correct. I have been in the game longer than you. But not once did I said you should respect me or my opinions? Not sure where you got that from kid. Stop making lists and go do your homework, or get a job.
gibby can dress up real nice does that countSilly me, how could I forget you're a homosexual, when it's your whole personality! :o
zzzz typical homophobic comeback, but I wouldn't expect anything less from the most hated poosy member. Instead of typing so much work on getting liked more in your own friendship groupgibby can dress up real nice does that countSilly me, how could I forget you're a homosexual, when it's your whole personality! :o
How is it homophobic? Look at your nickname... When you announce yourself as the 'gayest guy in the NW community' you haven't got a leg to stand onzzzz typical homophobic comeback, but I wouldn't expect anything less from the most hated poosy member. Instead of typing so much work on getting liked more in your own friendship groupgibby can dress up real nice does that countSilly me, how could I forget you're a homosexual, when it's your whole personality! :o
funny - go on please my work today is pretty boring
Wouldn't say it's homophobicmate you have this list rent free lmao
Love a bit of drams me
it's always the gaysWouldn't say it's homophobicmate you have this list rent free lmao
Love a bit of drams me
Blitz said I would be top 40 so I’m not that sad
How is it homophobic? Look at your nickname... When you announce yourself as the 'gayest guy in the NW community' you haven't got a leg to stand onzzzz typical homophobic comeback, but I wouldn't expect anything less from the most hated poosy member. Instead of typing so much work on getting liked more in your own friendship groupgibby can dress up real nice does that countSilly me, how could I forget you're a homosexual, when it's your whole personality! :o
People may dislike me, but it's like water off a ducks back. Not really that fussed.
You play like a spectator more than alf doesBlitz said I would be top 40 so I’m not that sad
Blitz was actually higher on my list until like 10 people messaged me to put him lower, now he's in spectator even more!
funny - go on please my class is pretty boring
You play like a spectator more than alf doesBlitz said I would be top 40 so I’m not that sad
Blitz was actually higher on my list until like 10 people messaged me to put him lower, now he's in spectator even more!
You play like a spectator more than alf doesBlitz said I would be top 40 so I’m not that sad
Blitz was actually higher on my list until like 10 people messaged me to put him lower, now he's in spectator even more!
funny - go on please my class is pretty boring
Please stay focused on school guys or you will end up like me or even worse Fietta.
where's this transphobia coming from? I thought you love it when Shadey forces you to dress up for him so you can stay relevantYou play like a spectator more than alf doesBlitz said I would be top 40 so I’m not that sad
Blitz was actually higher on my list until like 10 people messaged me to put him lower, now he's in spectator even more!
Come up with something original you look like some 12 year old girl who thinks they’re a boy
gay drama, boring
Nah, gave up on that when I remembered FSE don't care about the forums.
Relevant? Are you so obsessed with your image and standing in this community that you judge people by relevance? Is it relevant that I’ve never heard someone whine so much about “my game dude” “my pc is lagging” “mouse lag dude” “omg my fps dropped” instead of just admitting to your mistakes?where's this transphobia coming from? I thought you love it when Shadey forces you to dress up for him so you can stay relevantYou play like a spectator more than alf doesBlitz said I would be top 40 so I’m not that sad
Blitz was actually higher on my list until like 10 people messaged me to put him lower, now he's in spectator even more!
Come up with something original you look like some 12 year old girl who thinks they’re a boy
No foreskin no posting plsfunny - go on please my class is pretty boring
Please stay focused on school guys or you will end up like me or even worse Fietta.
didn't mention the "Dude I'm lagging I got 20 ping" so your opinion is invalidRelevant? Are you so obsessed with your image and standing in this community that you judge people by relevance? Is it relevant that I’ve never heard someone whine so much about “my game dude” “my pc is lagging” “mouse lag dude” “omg my fps dropped” instead of just admitting to your mistakes?where's this transphobia coming from? I thought you love it when Shadey forces you to dress up for him so you can stay relevantYou play like a spectator more than alf doesBlitz said I would be top 40 so I’m not that sad
Blitz was actually higher on my list until like 10 people messaged me to put him lower, now he's in spectator even more!
Come up with something original you look like some 12 year old girl who thinks they’re a boy
Is it relevant that you have so few brain cells that you think anyone likes you for your personality? Which by the way is entirely derived from you being gay and autistic, neither of which is a particularly interesting trait.
Maybe relevance comes from your achievements in game? Oh wait… you were the worst ENG captain ever and gibby basically carries you into teams because he’s the more talented one of you and the more likeable one.
But please, by all means, say some more bullshit to make yourself feel important in the meantime remember it’s vertical for effect and horizontal for attention.
Relevant? Are you so obsessed with your image and standing in this community that you judge people by relevance? Is it relevant that I’ve never heard someone whine so much about “my game dude” “my pc is lagging” “mouse lag dude” “omg my fps dropped” instead of just admitting to your mistakes?where's this transphobia coming from? I thought you love it when Shadey forces you to dress up for him so you can stay relevantYou play like a spectator more than alf doesBlitz said I would be top 40 so I’m not that sad
Blitz was actually higher on my list until like 10 people messaged me to put him lower, now he's in spectator even more!
Come up with something original you look like some 12 year old girl who thinks they’re a boy
Is it relevant that you have so few brain cells that you think anyone likes you for your personality? Which by the way is entirely derived from you being gay and autistic, neither of which is a particularly interesting trait.
Maybe relevance comes from your achievements in game? Oh wait… you were the worst ENG captain ever and gibby basically carries you into teams because he’s the more talented one of you and the more likeable one.
But please, by all means, say some more bullshit to make yourself feel important in the meantime remember it’s vertical for effect and horizontal for attention.
man alf u need a chill pill never seen you so worked up
Why mad bro?man alf u need a chill pill never seen you so worked up
Not worked up at all, just tired of your subhuman shit
ngl we need Chuckster Points back, Chuckster the good frenchie is the only reliable person left in this community
"Untermensch (German pronunciation: [ˈʔʊntɐˌmɛnʃ] ( listen), underman, sub-man, subhuman; plural: Untermenschen) is a Nazi term for non-Aryan "inferior people" often referred to as "the masses from the East", that is Jews, Roma, and Slavs (Poles, Serbs, Ukrainians, and later also Russians)."pretty based if you ask me
WOW WAY TO BE A NAZI ALF
Except I didn’t say untermensch I said subhuman… specificity mattersRead the whole thing donkey
Fuck off swampy boyNo foreskin no posting plsfunny - go on please my class is pretty boring
Please stay focused on school guys or you will end up like me or even worse Fietta.
Except I didn’t say untermensch I said subhuman… specificity mattersRead the whole thing donkey
Yeah when I'm writing on fse it's like writing my uni papers sorry dogExcept I didn’t say untermensch I said subhuman… specificity mattersRead the whole thing donkey
Those are translations vegi that’s how a dictionary works, donkey
Yeah when I'm writing on fse it's like writing my uni papers sorry dogExcept I didn’t say untermensch I said subhuman… specificity mattersRead the whole thing donkey
Those are translations vegi that’s how a dictionary works, donkey
Give racist insults towards blacks, Jews and other minoritiesYeah when I'm writing on fse it's like writing my uni papers sorry dogExcept I didn’t say untermensch I said subhuman… specificity mattersRead the whole thing donkey
Those are translations vegi that’s how a dictionary works, donkey
You can’t speak, can’t read, what can you do?
Give racist insults towards blacks, Jews and other minoritiesYeah when I'm writing on fse it's like writing my uni papers sorry dogExcept I didn’t say untermensch I said subhuman… specificity mattersRead the whole thing donkey
Those are translations vegi that’s how a dictionary works, donkey
You can’t speak, can’t read, what can you do?
they missed greeks there"Untermensch (German pronunciation: [ˈʔʊntɐˌmɛnʃ] ( listen), underman, sub-man, subhuman; plural: Untermenschen) is a Nazi term for non-Aryan "inferior people" often referred to as "the masses from the East", that is Jews, Roma, and Slavs (Poles, Serbs, Ukrainians, and later also Russians)."pretty based if you ask me
WOW WAY TO BE A NAZI ALF
southern european not eastern european get it right plsthey missed greeks there"Untermensch (German pronunciation: [ˈʔʊntɐˌmɛnʃ] ( listen), underman, sub-man, subhuman; plural: Untermenschen) is a Nazi term for non-Aryan "inferior people" often referred to as "the masses from the East", that is Jews, Roma, and Slavs (Poles, Serbs, Ukrainians, and later also Russians)."pretty based if you ask me
WOW WAY TO BE A NAZI ALF
turks arent southern european?southern european not eastern european get it right plsthey missed greeks there"Untermensch (German pronunciation: [ˈʔʊntɐˌmɛnʃ] ( listen), underman, sub-man, subhuman; plural: Untermenschen) is a Nazi term for non-Aryan "inferior people" often referred to as "the masses from the East", that is Jews, Roma, and Slavs (Poles, Serbs, Ukrainians, and later also Russians)."pretty based if you ask me
WOW WAY TO BE A NAZI ALF
Instead of posting facts and discussing list, creator decided to go rough on gays of community only cause he knows their personal info. Very mature nglno you
I remember the times when I got all toxic about lists. Ah the good old days. Glad to see kids nowadays still care more about another NW player's opinion of their skill rather than getting bitches and making money.Calling girls “bitches” doesn’t make you look rough nor cool Jackie, as the “mature” person you should have understood that before posting. And if so, how many bitches you got already? Also didn’t know spending overall 5 mins on posting could make me poor.
SHype and fietta haven't done well in tournaments recently either so I don't understand where these ratings are coming from
The guy is married and is prolly one of the more friendly people in the community. Don't talk smack to this giga chad he's already more accomplished in life than you'll ever be.I remember the times when I got all toxic about lists. Ah the good old days. Glad to see kids nowadays still care more about another NW player's opinion of their skill rather than getting bitches and making money.Calling girls “bitches” doesn’t make you look rough nor cool Jackie, as the “mature” person you should have understood that before posting. And if so, how many bitches you got already? Also didn’t know spending overall 5 mins on posting could make me poor.
SHype and fietta haven't done well in tournaments recently either so I don't understand where these ratings are coming fromsHype and Fietta both played 'well' enough in RT in that last final, sure they didn't stand out but it's hard to in a team like that and they played their role, where as we saw you be one of the more picked players on your side. From what I saw SHype also had a decent NWWC, where as you barely played. Quite simple really.
I remember the times when I got all toxic about lists. Ah the good old days. Glad to see kids nowadays still care more about another NW player's opinion of their skill rather than getting bitches and making money.Now this is some shit i can get behind!
You ain't got bitches or even money yet loser!!I remember the times when I got all toxic about lists. Ah the good old days. Glad to see kids nowadays still care more about another NW player's opinion of their skill rather than getting bitches and making money.Now this is some shit i can get behind!
Him being married making it more accomplished in life than I’ll ever be? I wouldn’t say that’s friendly enough tho. If he’s married then it means his wife is also bitch?The guy is married and is prolly one of the more friendly people in the community. Don't talk smack to this giga chad he's already more accomplished in life than you'll ever be.I remember the times when I got all toxic about lists. Ah the good old days. Glad to see kids nowadays still care more about another NW player's opinion of their skill rather than getting bitches and making money.Calling girls “bitches” doesn’t make you look rough nor cool Jackie, as the “mature” person you should have understood that before posting. And if so, how many bitches you got already? Also didn’t know spending overall 5 mins on posting could make me poor.
It's quite obviously a meme post. I'm not misogynistic but rather using lingo my younger brethren might understand and trying to give people a laugh considering it's an "older" person using said language. I realize I am likely less funny than I would like to be and perhaps not everyone will get that it is a joke. Noone is talking about taking 5 minutes to post but rather people hanging around the thread and obsessing over their rating.I remember the times when I got all toxic about lists. Ah the good old days. Glad to see kids nowadays still care more about another NW player's opinion of their skill rather than getting bitches and making money.Calling girls “bitches” doesn’t make you look rough nor cool Jackie, as the “mature” person you should have understood that before posting. And if so, how many bitches you got already? Also didn’t know spending overall 5 mins on posting could make me poor.
The tournament you are referring two I died first to achilles twice, same amount of times chuckster died to him and same amount of times oneil died to him. Personally I didn’t see SHype perform very well in the matches that mattered In NWWC, I.E. Spain and Poland. It’s hard to rank fietta since he just seems to sit behind top players so based on how he performs with and without achilles I think he’s been given a fairly generous ranking.
Okay grandpa, now it looks good for me. XoxoIt's quite obviously a meme post. I'm not misogynistic but rather using lingo my younger brethren might understand and trying to give people a laugh considering it's an "older" person using said language. I realize I am likely less funny than I would like to be and perhaps not everyone will get that it is a joke. Noone is talking about taking 5 minutes to post but rather people hanging around the thread and obsessing over their rating.I remember the times when I got all toxic about lists. Ah the good old days. Glad to see kids nowadays still care more about another NW player's opinion of their skill rather than getting bitches and making money.Calling girls “bitches” doesn’t make you look rough nor cool Jackie, as the “mature” person you should have understood that before posting. And if so, how many bitches you got already? Also didn’t know spending overall 5 mins on posting could make me poor.
:-*Okay grandpa, now it looks good for me. XoxoIt's quite obviously a meme post. I'm not misogynistic but rather using lingo my younger brethren might understand and trying to give people a laugh considering it's an "older" person using said language. I realize I am likely less funny than I would like to be and perhaps not everyone will get that it is a joke. Noone is talking about taking 5 minutes to post but rather people hanging around the thread and obsessing over their rating.I remember the times when I got all toxic about lists. Ah the good old days. Glad to see kids nowadays still care more about another NW player's opinion of their skill rather than getting bitches and making money.Calling girls “bitches” doesn’t make you look rough nor cool Jackie, as the “mature” person you should have understood that before posting. And if so, how many bitches you got already? Also didn’t know spending overall 5 mins on posting could make me poor.
The tournament you are referring two I died first to achilles twice, same amount of times chuckster died to him and same amount of times oneil died to him. Personally I didn’t see SHype perform very well in the matches that mattered In NWWC, I.E. Spain and Poland. It’s hard to rank fietta since he just seems to sit behind top players so based on how he performs with and without achilles I think he’s been given a fairly generous ranking.Even if he did not carry, him just doing 'okay' is better than you doing 'nothing' from the bench surely? If you think Fietta/sHype have been given generous rankings maybe take a look at your own. You are not a bad player by any means but in tournaments you are yet to perform really. You were easily one of the weakest players in that 7v7 final on that side and in the 8v8/NWWC I don't believe you played much, I may be mistaken on the 8v8 as I didn't see you much. Fietta hasn't had a 'bad' tournament in those 3 tournaments (he didn't play in NWWC ofc) but the other two he didn't have a bad tournament and supported achilles well. Just because he isn't the flashiest player and played with a strong partner does not make him 'worse'. All good players need a good partner or support.
no bitches?Only virgins on this thread
EDIT: I'm forced to hang around here Jackie to keep the kids from biting eachother.Glad to have a fellow senior around. :-*
Old men must stand together. :-*EDIT: I'm forced to hang around here Jackie to keep the kids from biting eachother.Glad to have a fellow senior around. :-*
And fietta isn’t ranked much lower, 1 point is barely anything in terms of skill. and yes it’s hard to see a ranking when I was on the bench in NWWC but England is one of the most prestigious teams. Even yourself was bench for the FRA match. I’m sure if I was of a different nationality I could’ve done just as much as others when it came to NWWC performances.
Honestly I was one of the players saying you should be at the top (or near the top) of tier 3, I’ve appreciated your performances with top players, but I only question your impact when forced to play with someone who isn’t top 10
And fietta isn’t ranked much lower, 1 point is barely anything in terms of skill. and yes it’s hard to see a ranking when I was on the bench in NWWC but England is one of the most prestigious teams. Even yourself was bench for the FRA match. I’m sure if I was of a different nationality I could’ve done just as much as others when it came to NWWC performances.You know I was only bench for the France match as I hadn't played a single practice with you right? I'd said to you and Bagins both before the match I'll only play if I'm needed and you had other subs there who had trained with you the whole time such as Cody and Axiom, I wasn't gonna try force my way in ahead of players who trained and worked for that the entire event.
Honestly I was one of the players saying you should be at the top (or near the top) of tier 3, I’ve appreciated your performances with top players, but I only question your impact when forced to play with someone who isn’t top 10He still showed enough to get to that position, he wouldn't be there in a starting lineup with a top player if he didn't have the ability to back it up, he'd be on the bench.......
over 5 months ago was that tournament, I've yet to see you do it againHonestly I was one of the players saying you should be at the top (or near the top) of tier 3, I’ve appreciated your performances with top players, but I only question your impact when forced to play with someone who isn’t top 10
Check the Invictus match again, got MVP for getting like 20 kills in that semis even though we still lost. You're certainly not a bad player, but I think you see yourself far too highly, as do all the other renegades players in this list.
over 5 months ago was that tournament, I've yet to see you do it againHonestly I was one of the players saying you should be at the top (or near the top) of tier 3, I’ve appreciated your performances with top players, but I only question your impact when forced to play with someone who isn’t top 10
Check the Invictus match again, got MVP for getting like 20 kills in that semis even though we still lost. You're certainly not a bad player, but I think you see yourself far too highly, as do all the other renegades players in this list.
Being a solid support is much more valuable than being an inconsistent aggressive player, especially on a top team, fietta is a better team player and 1v1 player than a lot of the guys above him, I’d say the same for sHype when he actually plays like a normal human being, I think it’s unfair to say they “didn’t stand out” when they’re on a team with probably the 3 most dangerous players in the game and then going for picks aggressively is just likely to end up with Python TKing them
As I said, I had top score in almost all matches outside of the final in the 7v7 including the semi's against Animals which was a fairly good line-up. The 2v2 yesterday in our hardest match (Jakob and Achilles) I had more picks overall than Domi including 3-4 first picks on two of the current top 10 players. In that 8v8 I played with a Dwarf name as that was our team so it probably wasn't as obvious but I also played well making picks when we beat Envy and Movement's team in the group stage. If you haven't seen it since you must really be closing your eyes on the bench there.over 5 months ago was that tournament, I've yet to see you do it againHonestly I was one of the players saying you should be at the top (or near the top) of tier 3, I’ve appreciated your performances with top players, but I only question your impact when forced to play with someone who isn’t top 10
Check the Invictus match again, got MVP for getting like 20 kills in that semis even though we still lost. You're certainly not a bad player, but I think you see yourself far too highly, as do all the other renegades players in this list.
To just pour fuel on the fire
Whenever Fietta played in NSS, surrounded by mediocre players, he was fucking dogshit ;D
As gibby rightly said, Fietta likes to think he makes plays when in actual fact plays are made on him :o
To just pour fuel on the fireYou wouldn't say stuff like this if Fietta didn't leave ur ass and joined 15th ;D
Whenever Fietta played in NSS, surrounded by mediocre players, he was fucking dogshit ;D
As gibby rightly said, Fietta likes to think he makes plays when in actual fact plays are made on him :o
Bench's are the perfect place to sleep!As I said, I had top score in almost all matches outside of the final in the 7v7 including the semi's against Animals which was a fairly good line-up. The 2v2 yesterday in our hardest match (Jakob and Achilles) I had more picks overall than Domi including 3-4 first picks on two of the current top 10 players. In that 8v8 I played with a Dwarf name as that was our team so it probably wasn't as obvious but I also played well making picks when we beat Envy and Movement's team in the group stage. If you haven't seen it since you must really be closing your eyes on the bench there.over 5 months ago was that tournament, I've yet to see you do it againHonestly I was one of the players saying you should be at the top (or near the top) of tier 3, I’ve appreciated your performances with top players, but I only question your impact when forced to play with someone who isn’t top 10
Check the Invictus match again, got MVP for getting like 20 kills in that semis even though we still lost. You're certainly not a bad player, but I think you see yourself far too highly, as do all the other renegades players in this list.
EDIT: My bad, I realised that was to Fietta.
So one match out of the roughly 10-14 I played in the 2 tournaments you counted got me downgraded that much? I didn't even play bad in the final I was first picked once and 2nd picked a few times when my 2nd in died. I didn't have a massive impact in terms of kills sure but neither did Chuckster due to the fact we were stood opposite eachother holding (Chuckster being one of the best players in your line-up). Neither of us really killed eachother much as we discussed after it was a bit of a stand-off.Bench's are the perfect place to sleep!As I said, I had top score in almost all matches outside of the final in the 7v7 including the semi's against Animals which was a fairly good line-up. The 2v2 yesterday in our hardest match (Jakob and Achilles) I had more picks overall than Domi including 3-4 first picks on two of the current top 10 players. In that 8v8 I played with a Dwarf name as that was our team so it probably wasn't as obvious but I also played well making picks when we beat Envy and Movement's team in the group stage. If you haven't seen it since you must really be closing your eyes on the bench there.over 5 months ago was that tournament, I've yet to see you do it againHonestly I was one of the players saying you should be at the top (or near the top) of tier 3, I’ve appreciated your performances with top players, but I only question your impact when forced to play with someone who isn’t top 10
Check the Invictus match again, got MVP for getting like 20 kills in that semis even though we still lost. You're certainly not a bad player, but I think you see yourself far too highly, as do all the other renegades players in this list.
EDIT: My bad, I realised that was to Fietta.
I ain't denying you've done well recently, considering the 2v2 you could easily be ranked a few places higher but when looking at the last 7v7 we didn't see you do much in the final at all, which is why you were ranked so low.
PR is being disrespected by his OWN nation
PR is being disrespected by his OWN nationchucky backing me up, he knows what's up
i was farming fietta in the 7v7, had to runaway from me after getting first picked twice in a row
lets go champ
(also caskie is criminally underrated)
i was farming fietta in the 7v7, had to runaway from me after getting first picked twice in a row
lets go champ
(also caskie is criminally underrated)
If Caskie actually played properly I’d agree
You all are ducking gay
That wasn't an interesting read at all. Kinda made me sad.
Also how tf is python the best at teamplay? This guy has teamkilled more times than anyone else in the game. That's how you know it's scuffed
If this is based upon nwwc/7v7 etc how are myself, firefly, caskie and fenton so low? (also where is Mike)
That wasn't an interesting read at all. Kinda made me sad.
Also how tf is python the best at teamplay? This guy has teamkilled more times than anyone else in the game. That's how you know it's scuffed
Can confirm playing next to him is terrifying
You cute Alfie but Python is too lazy, he only paints with bold colors; he does not like pastelsThat wasn't an interesting read at all. Kinda made me sad.
Also how tf is python the best at teamplay? This guy has teamkilled more times than anyone else in the game. That's how you know it's scuffed
Can confirm playing next to him is terrifying
You cute Alfie but Python is too lazy, he only paints with bold colors; he does not like pastelsThat wasn't an interesting read at all. Kinda made me sad.
Also how tf is python the best at teamplay? This guy has teamkilled more times than anyone else in the game. That's how you know it's scuffed
Can confirm playing next to him is terrifying
Python is too lazy, he only paints with bold colors; he does not like pastels
I'd always thought lightning was something only I could see.You cute Alfie but Python is too lazy, he only paints with bold colors; he does not like pastelsThat wasn't an interesting read at all. Kinda made me sad.
Also how tf is python the best at teamplay? This guy has teamkilled more times than anyone else in the game. That's how you know it's scuffed
Can confirm playing next to him is terrifying
Thank you? @Zey gonna need a translation here bro
Chucky have you raided your moms medicine cabinet again!?I'd always thought lightning was something only I could see.You cute Alfie but Python is too lazy, he only paints with bold colors; he does not like pastelsThat wasn't an interesting read at all. Kinda made me sad.
Also how tf is python the best at teamplay? This guy has teamkilled more times than anyone else in the game. That's how you know it's scuffed
Can confirm playing next to him is terrifying
Thank you? @Zey gonna need a translation here bro
It’s sad to see another NW player turn to a life of drugs. Stress is high in this game!I'd always thought lightning was something only I could see.You cute Alfie but Python is too lazy, he only paints with bold colors; he does not like pastelsThat wasn't an interesting read at all. Kinda made me sad.
Also how tf is python the best at teamplay? This guy has teamkilled more times than anyone else in the game. That's how you know it's scuffed
Can confirm playing next to him is terrifying
Thank you? @Zey gonna need a translation here bro
The external scars tell only part of the story.It’s sad to see another NW player turn to a life of drugs. Stress is high in this game!I'd always thought lightning was something only I could see.You cute Alfie but Python is too lazy, he only paints with bold colors; he does not like pastelsThat wasn't an interesting read at all. Kinda made me sad.
Also how tf is python the best at teamplay? This guy has teamkilled more times than anyone else in the game. That's how you know it's scuffed
Can confirm playing next to him is terrifying
Thank you? @Zey gonna need a translation here bro
Nothing seemed out of place except the washing machine in the bar when the pink horses galloped across the sea.Chucky have you raided your moms medicine cabinet again!?I'd always thought lightning was something only I could see.You cute Alfie but Python is too lazy, he only paints with bold colors; he does not like pastelsThat wasn't an interesting read at all. Kinda made me sad.
Also how tf is python the best at teamplay? This guy has teamkilled more times than anyone else in the game. That's how you know it's scuffed
Can confirm playing next to him is terrifying
Thank you? @Zey gonna need a translation here bro
I love Chuckster on FSE.He makes me think I’ve got mental sometimes
Gibby needs to move down a bit, he's solid enough yes but plays a very basic role in teams as a holder, doesn't have great mechanical skill and is not the best player at the moment in doing that role. He performed reasonably in the 7v7 and NWWC but not 'good'. Giorno did fairly well but it was in an Ireland team that didn't perform great against fairly weak opponents and in the 7v7/8v8 he was average, he should go down a bit also. HiReaper has performed pretty well over those tournaments I'd say he can stay around where he is more maybe drop by 1-2 points but 82 is not unfair. Marquez being in 81 seems completely confused to most people I've spoken to but I'm aware he played fairly well for Animals. He should drop a bit but not too much. For me Maximou and Narrow should probably be on the same level but Maximou has had more round time so it's a bit hard to judge. No way Fietta/sHype should be below blitz and barro, at the least they should be in line with him. Yes, Blitz maybe plays more rounds but as we saw in several tournaments recently, not very well. Naatsuu deserves to go up really based off his recent performances and Fralla down. Cody I also think could drop a little but nothing major. The lower tiers are harder to judge so I won't bother but guys like Irish, Firefly and Gi played very well in the 8v8 when we beat Envy/Movements teams in the group stages. Most of the top 10 I think is fair however based on those 3 tournaments though I'd argue Extaz had a worse tournament than Red and DOMI really in those 3 combined and that Jakob potentially had a better one than Bagins but that one is close for sure.As this is a good-faith constructive engagement I will talk about each of these in turn from my perspective, but keep in mind the ratings were done by 4 people and we disagreed on a lot of players. We also did not rate ourselves.
Other than that I'd also say Blacktham and TheDeaD could potentially drop a bit, they haven't performed badly but just haven't done much over the last few tournaments either. Oh and Steinmann has been terrible in those last few tournaments, his rating seems entirely random and needs to drop a fair bit. Hypno potentially needs to drop a bit also when taking into account the other two tournaments.
I hope posting something actually constructive might lead to others doing the same rather than flaming each-other. :)
Gibby needs to move down a bit, he's solid enough yes but plays a very basic role in teams as a holder, doesn't have great mechanical skill and is not the best player at the moment in doing that role. He performed reasonably in the 7v7 and NWWC but not 'good'.In NWWC almost everyone is playing "holder" while trying to set up teamplay, at least that's what we were all doing in England - except perhaps on the DOMI, Python flank and initially when Bagins and Python were in mid. It's evident in my video of the FRA match that I did successfully set up quite a few kills for Python and Bagins, as well as get a few out of the setups myself. In the 7v7, I had the most first picks in the semis and finals for Mages (against Gerher and TheDeaD in the semis and sHype and Narrow in the finals). For a better view of what I can do mechanically I'd suggest watching my 2v2 video (it's not relevant to the ratings but is a demonstration of mechanics) and my 7v7 video:
Giorno did fairly well but it was in an Ireland team that didn't perform great against fairly weak opponents and in the 7v7/8v8 he was average, he should go down a bit also.I think Giorno's rating is accurate comparative to those around him. He's a strong teamplayer that is good at applying pressure on a flank/enabling his partner by creating space. Him and HiReaper were what made Animals (Red and Zenon being very impactful as well) so solid. Debatable if he's a little too high numerically but I think he's in roughly the right place.
HiReaper has performed pretty well over those tournaments I'd say he can stay around where he is more maybe drop by 1-2 points but 82 is not unfair.HiReaper has excellent pressure application and consistency to go with it, and can do it on wall or 2nd in. If I were picking players in a draft league I'd personally pick him over some of those above him, but in terms of tournament performances he is justifiably rated I think.
Marquez being in 81 seems completely confused to most people I've spoken to but I'm aware he played fairly well for Animals. He should drop a bit but not too much.I agree with you, I would drop Marquez by a few points. But, as I said, the list is made by 4 people and the others thought a placement this high was more accurate.
For me Maximou and Narrow should probably be on the same level but Maximou has had more round time so it's a bit hard to judge.They're very close together on the list and as Maximou started in NWWC it's difficult to justify Narrow being above him. They play in different positions, Narrow in mid and Maxime on flank, so it may be a matter of logistics for FRA but I think Maximou is the more reliable of the two - he also had a good performance in the NWWC finals.
No way Fietta/sHype should be below blitz and barro, at the least they should be in line with him. Yes, Blitz maybe plays more rounds but as we saw in several tournaments recently, not very well.Personally, I think Fietta and sHype both suffer from the same conditioning in RT. In the Mages final, Fietta got first picked in the first two rounds because he was lunging - then he took a backfoot and stayed on Achilles' hip and their flank started winning. There isn't much else to go on for him, but from our POVs when he plays without Achilles he's quite unimpactful and not particularly difficult to pressure. sHype is a hard one. I'm perhaps overly negative because I was picking him in the 7v7 final, but I can see the justification for putting him higher. We tried to avoid using "matchups" (in the sense of, I outplayed x so I should be above them) but it forms part of people's opinions regardless of that. I think he can be quite inconsistent though.
Naatsuu deserves to go up really based off his recent performances and Fralla down.Naatsuu definitely could be higher by a couple points, but I think he is overly aggressive and lunges far too much. It catches people out that underestimate his range, but it also gets him killed against people that are ready for it and prepare a counter up-down on the block. But, as you say, he's had strong performances so up to 65 could make sense. Fralla down makes sense to me.
Cody I also think could drop a little but nothing major.Again, not in disagreement.
The lower tiers are harder to judge so I won't bother but guys like Irish, Firefly and Gi played very well in the 8v8 when we beat Envy/Movements teams in the group stages.Firefly and Gi have both played well in the recently considered tournaments, and could have a few more points for it, but I don't think they're being done dirty with their current placements.
Most of the top 10 I think is fair however based on those 3 tournaments though I'd argue Extaz had a worse tournament than Red and DOMI really in those 3 combined and that Jakob potentially had a better one than Bagins but that one is close for sure.Extazz hasn't had amazing tournaments and is lower for that, but I still think he performed better than those below him. As much as I love PR Curtis, he has had a rough time of it in tournaments recently. Jakob could be one or two points higher, he's definitely in that sort of area, but it's very close between him and Bagins. Hard to come down decisively on.
Other than that I'd also say Blacktham and TheDeaD could potentially drop a bit, they haven't performed badly but just haven't done much over the last few tournaments either.I don't disagree.
Steinmann has been terrible in those last few tournaments, his rating seems entirely random and needs to drop a fair bit.I don't think it's random, but I also don't disagree that he should be lower.
Hypno potentially needs to drop a bit also when taking into account the other two tournaments.I don't have much perspective on this, I didn't contribute much to his ranking but I'd probably agree.
If this is based upon nwwc/7v7 etc how are myself, firefly, caskie so low? (also where is Mike)I don't think you are that low but I referred to this a bit in my reply to Herishey. I wanted Mike on but I believe it was contested that he hasn't played enough. I wouldn't disagree with a few extra points.
To just pour fuel on the fireso true!
Whenever Fietta played in NSS, surrounded by mediocre players, he was fucking dogshit ;D
As gibby rightly said, Fietta likes to think he makes plays when in actual fact plays are made on him :o
FUCK ME IM NOT READING THAT!!
No way Fietta/sHype should be below blitz and barro, at the least they should be in line with him. Yes, Blitz maybe plays more rounds but as we saw in several tournaments recently, not very well.Personally, I think Fietta and sHype both suffer from the same conditioning in RT. In the Mages final, Fietta got first picked in the first two rounds because he was lunging - then he took a backfoot and stayed on Achilles' hip and their flank started winning. There isn't much else to go on for him, but from our POVs when he plays without Achilles he's quite unimpactful and not particularly difficult to pressure. sHype is a hard one. I'm perhaps overly negative because I was picking him in the 7v7 final, but I can see the justification for putting him higher. We tried to avoid using "matchups" (in the sense of, I outplayed x so I should be above them) but it forms part of people's opinions regardless of that. I think he can be quite inconsistent though.
You cute Alfie but Python is too lazy, he only paints with bold colors; he does not like pastelsThat wasn't an interesting read at all. Kinda made me sad.
Also how tf is python the best at teamplay? This guy has teamkilled more times than anyone else in the game. That's how you know it's scuffed
Can confirm playing next to him is terrifying
That wasn't an interesting read at all. Kinda made me sad.
Also how tf is python the best at teamplay? This guy has teamkilled more times than anyone else in the game. That's how you know it's scuffed
17 pages in 1 day, it's definitive, lists are the best thing that could happen for the competitive scene 8)
I'm not good enough for that... 😳17 pages in 1 day, it's definitive, lists are the best thing that could happen for the competitive scene 8)
I think the best thing would be us as a duo tbh
Kinda impossible to win anything then17 pages in 1 day, it's definitive, lists are the best thing that could happen for the competitive scene 8)
I think the best thing would be us as a duo tbh
Few are young bambi but I will teach you to become a glorious stagI'm not good enough for that... 😳17 pages in 1 day, it's definitive, lists are the best thing that could happen for the competitive scene 8)
I think the best thing would be us as a duo tbh
Gibby needs to move down a bit, he's solid enough yes but plays a very basic role in teams as a holder, doesn't have great mechanical skill and is not the best player at the moment in doing that role. He performed reasonably in the 7v7 and NWWC but not 'good'. Giorno did fairly well but it was in an Ireland team that didn't perform great against fairly weak opponents and in the 7v7/8v8 he was average, he should go down a bit also. HiReaper has performed pretty well over those tournaments I'd say he can stay around where he is more maybe drop by 1-2 points but 82 is not unfair. Marquez being in 81 seems completely confused to most people I've spoken to but I'm aware he played fairly well for Animals. He should drop a bit but not too much. For me Maximou and Narrow should probably be on the same level but Maximou has had more round time so it's a bit hard to judge. No way Fietta/sHype should be below blitz and barro, at the least they should be in line with him. Yes, Blitz maybe plays more rounds but as we saw in several tournaments recently, not very well. Naatsuu deserves to go up really based off his recent performances and Fralla down. Cody I also think could drop a little but nothing major. The lower tiers are harder to judge so I won't bother but guys like Irish, Firefly and Gi played very well in the 8v8 when we beat Envy/Movements teams in the group stages. Most of the top 10 I think is fair however based on those 3 tournaments though I'd argue Extaz had a worse tournament than Red and DOMI really in those 3 combined and that Jakob potentially had a better one than Bagins but that one is close for sure.As this is a good-faith constructive engagement I will talk about each of these in turn from my perspective, but keep in mind the ratings were done by 4 people and we disagreed on a lot of players. We also did not rate ourselves.
Other than that I'd also say Blacktham and TheDeaD could potentially drop a bit, they haven't performed badly but just haven't done much over the last few tournaments either. Oh and Steinmann has been terrible in those last few tournaments, his rating seems entirely random and needs to drop a fair bit. Hypno potentially needs to drop a bit also when taking into account the other two tournaments.
I hope posting something actually constructive might lead to others doing the same rather than flaming each-other. :)Gibby needs to move down a bit, he's solid enough yes but plays a very basic role in teams as a holder, doesn't have great mechanical skill and is not the best player at the moment in doing that role. He performed reasonably in the 7v7 and NWWC but not 'good'.In NWWC almost everyone is playing "holder" while trying to set up teamplay, at least that's what we were all doing in England - except perhaps on the DOMI, Python flank and initially when Bagins and Python were in mid. It's evident in my video of the FRA match that I did successfully set up quite a few kills for Python and Bagins, as well as get a few out of the setups myself. In the 7v7, I had the most first picks in the semis and finals for Mages (against Gerher and TheDeaD in the semis and sHype and Narrow in the finals). For a better view of what I can do mechanically I'd suggest watching my 2v2 video (it's not relevant to the ratings but is a demonstration of mechanics) and my 7v7 video:Although even the 7v7 is a little outdated, as I learnt a massive amount from Bagins during NWWC and a lot more recently from Zeyden and JakobSpoilerhttps://youtu.be/Ul8w2KwanFU
https://youtu.be/DN4PO9FS9G4
https://youtu.be/JOtIN_c_JeI[close]Giorno did fairly well but it was in an Ireland team that didn't perform great against fairly weak opponents and in the 7v7/8v8 he was average, he should go down a bit also.I think Giorno's rating is accurate comparative to those around him. He's a strong teamplayer that is good at applying pressure on a flank/enabling his partner by creating space. Him and HiReaper were what made Animals (Red and Zenon being very impactful as well) so solid. Debatable if he's a little too high numerically but I think he's in roughly the right place.HiReaper has performed pretty well over those tournaments I'd say he can stay around where he is more maybe drop by 1-2 points but 82 is not unfair.HiReaper has excellent pressure application and consistency to go with it, and can do it on wall or 2nd in. If I were picking players in a draft league I'd personally pick him over some of those above him, but in terms of tournament performances he is justifiably rated I think.Marquez being in 81 seems completely confused to most people I've spoken to but I'm aware he played fairly well for Animals. He should drop a bit but not too much.I agree with you, I would drop Marquez by a few points. But, as I said, the list is made by 4 people and the others thought a placement this high was more accurate.For me Maximou and Narrow should probably be on the same level but Maximou has had more round time so it's a bit hard to judge.They're very close together on the list and as Maximou started in NWWC it's difficult to justify Narrow being above him. They play in different positions, Narrow in mid and Maxime on flank, so it may be a matter of logistics for FRA but I think Maximou is the more reliable of the two - he also had a good performance in the NWWC finals.No way Fietta/sHype should be below blitz and barro, at the least they should be in line with him. Yes, Blitz maybe plays more rounds but as we saw in several tournaments recently, not very well.Personally, I think Fietta and sHype both suffer from the same conditioning in RT. In the Mages final, Fietta got first picked in the first two rounds because he was lunging - then he took a backfoot and stayed on Achilles' hip and their flank started winning. There isn't much else to go on for him, but from our POVs when he plays without Achilles he's quite unimpactful and not particularly difficult to pressure. sHype is a hard one. I'm perhaps overly negative because I was picking him in the 7v7 final, but I can see the justification for putting him higher. We tried to avoid using "matchups" (in the sense of, I outplayed x so I should be above them) but it forms part of people's opinions regardless of that. I think he can be quite inconsistent though.Naatsuu deserves to go up really based off his recent performances and Fralla down.Naatsuu definitely could be higher by a couple points, but I think he is overly aggressive and lunges far too much. It catches people out that underestimate his range, but it also gets him killed against people that are ready for it and prepare a counter up-down on the block. But, as you say, he's had strong performances so up to 65 could make sense. Fralla down makes sense to me.Cody I also think could drop a little but nothing major.Again, not in disagreement.The lower tiers are harder to judge so I won't bother but guys like Irish, Firefly and Gi played very well in the 8v8 when we beat Envy/Movements teams in the group stages.Firefly and Gi have both played well in the recently considered tournaments, and could have a few more points for it, but I don't think they're being done dirty with their current placements.Most of the top 10 I think is fair however based on those 3 tournaments though I'd argue Extaz had a worse tournament than Red and DOMI really in those 3 combined and that Jakob potentially had a better one than Bagins but that one is close for sure.Extazz hasn't had amazing tournaments and is lower for that, but I still think he performed better than those below him. As much as I love PR Curtis, he has had a rough time of it in tournaments recently. Jakob could be one or two points higher, he's definitely in that sort of area, but it's very close between him and Bagins. Hard to come down decisively on.Other than that I'd also say Blacktham and TheDeaD could potentially drop a bit, they haven't performed badly but just haven't done much over the last few tournaments either.I don't disagree.Steinmann has been terrible in those last few tournaments, his rating seems entirely random and needs to drop a fair bit.I don't think it's random, but I also don't disagree that he should be lower.Hypno potentially needs to drop a bit also when taking into account the other two tournaments.I don't have much perspective on this, I didn't contribute much to his ranking but I'd probably agree.If this is based upon nwwc/7v7 etc how are myself, firefly, caskie so low? (also where is Mike)I don't think you are that low but I referred to this a bit in my reply to Herishey. I wanted Mike on but I believe it was contested that he hasn't played enough. I wouldn't disagree with a few extra points.To just pour fuel on the fireso true!
Whenever Fietta played in NSS, surrounded by mediocre players, he was fucking dogshit ;D
As gibby rightly said, Fietta likes to think he makes plays when in actual fact plays are made on him :o
If this is based upon nwwc/7v7 etc how are myself, firefly, caskie so low? (also where is Mike)
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Mate this pro100pro guy is TERRIBLE why is he SO BLOODY HIGH GUYS? gibblywibbly jibbster, "an intense military campaign intended to bring about a swift victory.", HighReaper and girno you guys have some explaining to do!
why is no one talking about this wursti schmuck at the top of tier 2, he has never been better than bunter and he has been vastly overrated by all 4 of u guys, poor poor oversight imoPipe down you hexagon player
Rejection personnelIf this is based upon nwwc/7v7 etc how are myself, firefly, caskie so low? (also where is Mike)
Same goes with me xaartil naatsuu and especially komar i guess
you are as weak as whales by acting like that.No way Fietta/sHype should be below blitz and barro, at the least they should be in line with him. Yes, Blitz maybe plays more rounds but as we saw in several tournaments recently, not very well.Personally, I think Fietta and sHype both suffer from the same conditioning in RT. In the Mages final, Fietta got first picked in the first two rounds because he was lunging - then he took a backfoot and stayed on Achilles' hip and their flank started winning. There isn't much else to go on for him, but from our POVs when he plays without Achilles he's quite unimpactful and not particularly difficult to pressure. sHype is a hard one. I'm perhaps overly negative because I was picking him in the 7v7 final, but I can see the justification for putting him higher. We tried to avoid using "matchups" (in the sense of, I outplayed x so I should be above them) but it forms part of people's opinions regardless of that. I think he can be quite inconsistent though.
I don't quite understand your point, sure I was picked but just from a finals you can't make assumptions, I didn't in any case play bad - but you're obviously deluded to base it off one match. I don't need to be impactful with Achilles, because that's his role as we discussed and not mine. Again, there's plenty of times I've not played with Achilles and somewhere else and played extremely well, the match before the finals I played exceptionally well. If this list is solely off 'what you've seen', then how are you rating all the other 80 players on this list which you haven't seen and the people you have seen is based on one match.
Bagins actually made Renegades on the basis of it not potentially being a 'winning' team, at least not at the start, but wanted to improve on the players it has as you guys have 'potential', but potential doesn't mean you're a great player. Also, making picking compilations also doesn't really show much as you're also not seeing how you're not getting picked. According to Blitz's video looked like Mages was farming RT, but that simply wasn't true. There's two sides to a video, but obviously you're not going to show you dying. If you were smart, you'd understand that the majority of the performances given from Renegades, is because of teamplay and leadership rather than individual skill, as you've said, you've learnt a lot, but haven't seen you perform outside of the same players you have been playing with. Teamplay is obviously very useful and is talent, but being spoon-fed constantly doesn't in any sense mean you're playing for yourself.
England performed well (still questionable plays from you in middle, and Hypno too), however, if you actually analysed how ENG have played, you can tell that it was because of how Bagins made you play, which is why it was a mess before Bagins took over and at that point and still up until the finals, there were questions if you would actually play in it, and thus competition began between you and Cody. Bagins is trying to place players in the right places and telling you how to play, which is great for winning, but doesn't mean a lot when it comes to individuality.
I understand lists are subjective, but making wild claims based on someone getting picked a couple of times is silly and then basing your entire rating on that is absolutely strange to me. It's just convenient that these points were made by the people who've been playing with each other for the past couple months and these same people are also exaggerated in this list.
Especially XaArtilIf this is based upon nwwc/7v7 etc how are myself, firefly, caskie so low? (also where is Mike)
Same goes with me xaartil naatsuu and especially komar i guess
cope and seeth + ratioNo way Fietta/sHype should be below blitz and barro, at the least they should be in line with him. Yes, Blitz maybe plays more rounds but as we saw in several tournaments recently, not very well.Personally, I think Fietta and sHype both suffer from the same conditioning in RT. In the Mages final, Fietta got first picked in the first two rounds because he was lunging - then he took a backfoot and stayed on Achilles' hip and their flank started winning. There isn't much else to go on for him, but from our POVs when he plays without Achilles he's quite unimpactful and not particularly difficult to pressure. sHype is a hard one. I'm perhaps overly negative because I was picking him in the 7v7 final, but I can see the justification for putting him higher. We tried to avoid using "matchups" (in the sense of, I outplayed x so I should be above them) but it forms part of people's opinions regardless of that. I think he can be quite inconsistent though.
I don't quite understand your point, sure I was picked but just from a finals you can't make assumptions, I didn't in any case play bad - but you're obviously deluded to base it off one match. I don't need to be impactful with Achilles, because that's his role as we discussed and not mine. Again, there's plenty of times I've not played with Achilles and somewhere else and played extremely well, the match before the finals I played exceptionally well. If this list is solely off 'what you've seen', then how are you rating all the other 80 players on this list which you haven't seen and the people you have seen is based on one match.
Bagins actually made Renegades on the basis of it not potentially being a 'winning' team, at least not at the start, but wanted to improve on the players it has as you guys have 'potential', but potential doesn't mean you're a great player. Also, making picking compilations also doesn't really show much as you're also not seeing how you're not getting picked. According to Blitz's video looked like Mages was farming RT, but that simply wasn't true. There's two sides to a video, but obviously you're not going to show you dying. If you were smart, you'd understand that the majority of the performances given from Renegades, is because of teamplay and leadership rather than individual skill, as you've said, you've learnt a lot, but haven't seen you perform outside of the same players you have been playing with. Teamplay is obviously very useful and is talent, but being spoon-fed constantly doesn't in any sense mean you're playing for yourself.
England performed well (still questionable plays from you in middle, and Hypno too), however, if you actually analysed how ENG have played, you can tell that it was because of how Bagins made you play, which is why it was a mess before Bagins took over and at that point and still up until the finals, there were questions if you would actually play in it, and thus competition began between you and Cody. Bagins is trying to place players in the right places and telling you how to play, which is great for winning, but doesn't mean a lot when it comes to individuality.
I understand lists are subjective, but making wild claims based on someone getting picked a couple of times is silly and then basing your entire rating on that is absolutely strange to me. It's just convenient that these points were made by the people who've been playing with each other for the past couple months and these same people are also exaggerated in this list.
cope and seeth + ratioNo way Fietta/sHype should be below blitz and barro, at the least they should be in line with him. Yes, Blitz maybe plays more rounds but as we saw in several tournaments recently, not very well.Personally, I think Fietta and sHype both suffer from the same conditioning in RT. In the Mages final, Fietta got first picked in the first two rounds because he was lunging - then he took a backfoot and stayed on Achilles' hip and their flank started winning. There isn't much else to go on for him, but from our POVs when he plays without Achilles he's quite unimpactful and not particularly difficult to pressure. sHype is a hard one. I'm perhaps overly negative because I was picking him in the 7v7 final, but I can see the justification for putting him higher. We tried to avoid using "matchups" (in the sense of, I outplayed x so I should be above them) but it forms part of people's opinions regardless of that. I think he can be quite inconsistent though.
I don't quite understand your point, sure I was picked but just from a finals you can't make assumptions, I didn't in any case play bad - but you're obviously deluded to base it off one match. I don't need to be impactful with Achilles, because that's his role as we discussed and not mine. Again, there's plenty of times I've not played with Achilles and somewhere else and played extremely well, the match before the finals I played exceptionally well. If this list is solely off 'what you've seen', then how are you rating all the other 80 players on this list which you haven't seen and the people you have seen is based on one match.
Bagins actually made Renegades on the basis of it not potentially being a 'winning' team, at least not at the start, but wanted to improve on the players it has as you guys have 'potential', but potential doesn't mean you're a great player. Also, making picking compilations also doesn't really show much as you're also not seeing how you're not getting picked. According to Blitz's video looked like Mages was farming RT, but that simply wasn't true. There's two sides to a video, but obviously you're not going to show you dying. If you were smart, you'd understand that the majority of the performances given from Renegades, is because of teamplay and leadership rather than individual skill, as you've said, you've learnt a lot, but haven't seen you perform outside of the same players you have been playing with. Teamplay is obviously very useful and is talent, but being spoon-fed constantly doesn't in any sense mean you're playing for yourself.
England performed well (still questionable plays from you in middle, and Hypno too), however, if you actually analysed how ENG have played, you can tell that it was because of how Bagins made you play, which is why it was a mess before Bagins took over and at that point and still up until the finals, there were questions if you would actually play in it, and thus competition began between you and Cody. Bagins is trying to place players in the right places and telling you how to play, which is great for winning, but doesn't mean a lot when it comes to individuality.
I understand lists are subjective, but making wild claims based on someone getting picked a couple of times is silly and then basing your entire rating on that is absolutely strange to me. It's just convenient that these points were made by the people who've been playing with each other for the past couple months and these same people are also exaggerated in this list.
cope and seeth + ratioNo way Fietta/sHype should be below blitz and barro, at the least they should be in line with him. Yes, Blitz maybe plays more rounds but as we saw in several tournaments recently, not very well.Personally, I think Fietta and sHype both suffer from the same conditioning in RT. In the Mages final, Fietta got first picked in the first two rounds because he was lunging - then he took a backfoot and stayed on Achilles' hip and their flank started winning. There isn't much else to go on for him, but from our POVs when he plays without Achilles he's quite unimpactful and not particularly difficult to pressure. sHype is a hard one. I'm perhaps overly negative because I was picking him in the 7v7 final, but I can see the justification for putting him higher. We tried to avoid using "matchups" (in the sense of, I outplayed x so I should be above them) but it forms part of people's opinions regardless of that. I think he can be quite inconsistent though.
I don't quite understand your point, sure I was picked but just from a finals you can't make assumptions, I didn't in any case play bad - but you're obviously deluded to base it off one match. I don't need to be impactful with Achilles, because that's his role as we discussed and not mine. Again, there's plenty of times I've not played with Achilles and somewhere else and played extremely well, the match before the finals I played exceptionally well. If this list is solely off 'what you've seen', then how are you rating all the other 80 players on this list which you haven't seen and the people you have seen is based on one match.
Bagins actually made Renegades on the basis of it not potentially being a 'winning' team, at least not at the start, but wanted to improve on the players it has as you guys have 'potential', but potential doesn't mean you're a great player. Also, making picking compilations also doesn't really show much as you're also not seeing how you're not getting picked. According to Blitz's video looked like Mages was farming RT, but that simply wasn't true. There's two sides to a video, but obviously you're not going to show you dying. If you were smart, you'd understand that the majority of the performances given from Renegades, is because of teamplay and leadership rather than individual skill, as you've said, you've learnt a lot, but haven't seen you perform outside of the same players you have been playing with. Teamplay is obviously very useful and is talent, but being spoon-fed constantly doesn't in any sense mean you're playing for yourself.
England performed well (still questionable plays from you in middle, and Hypno too), however, if you actually analysed how ENG have played, you can tell that it was because of how Bagins made you play, which is why it was a mess before Bagins took over and at that point and still up until the finals, there were questions if you would actually play in it, and thus competition began between you and Cody. Bagins is trying to place players in the right places and telling you how to play, which is great for winning, but doesn't mean a lot when it comes to individuality.
I understand lists are subjective, but making wild claims based on someone getting picked a couple of times is silly and then basing your entire rating on that is absolutely strange to me. It's just convenient that these points were made by the people who've been playing with each other for the past couple months and these same people are also exaggerated in this list.
Kind regardsNo way Fietta/sHype should be below blitz and barro, at the least they should be in line with him. Yes, Blitz maybe plays more rounds but as we saw in several tournaments recently, not very well.Personally, I think Fietta and sHype both suffer from the same conditioning in RT. In the Mages final, Fietta got first picked in the first two rounds because he was lunging - then he took a backfoot and stayed on Achilles' hip and their flank started winning. There isn't much else to go on for him, but from our POVs when he plays without Achilles he's quite unimpactful and not particularly difficult to pressure. sHype is a hard one. I'm perhaps overly negative because I was picking him in the 7v7 final, but I can see the justification for putting him higher. We tried to avoid using "matchups" (in the sense of, I outplayed x so I should be above them) but it forms part of people's opinions regardless of that. I think he can be quite inconsistent though.
I don't quite understand your point, sure I was picked but just from a finals you can't make assumptions, I didn't in any case play bad - but you're obviously deluded to base it off one match. I don't need to be impactful with Achilles, because that's his role as we discussed and not mine. Again, there's plenty of times I've not played with Achilles and somewhere else and played extremely well, the match before the finals I played exceptionally well. If this list is solely off 'what you've seen', then how are you rating all the other 80 players on this list which you haven't seen and the people you have seen is based on one match.
Bagins actually made Renegades on the basis of it not potentially being a 'winning' team, at least not at the start, but wanted to improve on the players it has as you guys have 'potential', but potential doesn't mean you're a great player. Also, making picking compilations also doesn't really show much as you're also not seeing how you're not getting picked. According to Blitz's video looked like Mages was farming RT, but that simply wasn't true. There's two sides to a video, but obviously you're not going to show you dying. If you were smart, you'd understand that the majority of the performances given from Renegades, is because of teamplay and leadership rather than individual skill, as you've said, you've learnt a lot, but haven't seen you perform outside of the same players you have been playing with. Teamplay is obviously very useful and is talent, but being spoon-fed constantly doesn't in any sense mean you're playing for yourself.
England performed well (still questionable plays from you in middle, and Hypno too), however, if you actually analysed how ENG have played, you can tell that it was because of how Bagins made you play, which is why it was a mess before Bagins took over and at that point and still up until the finals, there were questions if you would actually play in it, and thus competition began between you and Cody. Bagins is trying to place players in the right places and telling you how to play, which is great for winning, but doesn't mean a lot when it comes to individuality.
I understand lists are subjective, but making wild claims based on someone getting picked a couple of times is silly and then basing your entire rating on that is absolutely strange to me. It's just convenient that these points were made by the people who've been playing with each other for the past couple months and these same people are also exaggerated in this list.
Especially XaArtilIf this is based upon nwwc/7v7 etc how are myself, firefly, caskie so low? (also where is Mike)
Same goes with me xaartil naatsuu and especially komar i guess
(https://i.gyazo.com/0f7697b6a854b3f2937a9198cae39973.png)IDKW there is a huge gap between joker and blacktham when joker play strong with germany team
I think if we were to make a list of the people most capable of looking someone in the eye without doing anything The_Joker would be first, what a shit list.
XaArtil rating is worse than KomarEspecially XaArtilIf this is based upon nwwc/7v7 etc how are myself, firefly, caskie so low? (also where is Mike)
Same goes with me xaartil naatsuu and especially komar i guess
Yeah Wiktor is goated but im talking about komar because of his awful rating
Joker > Blitzkrieg(https://i.gyazo.com/0f7697b6a854b3f2937a9198cae39973.png)IDKW there is a huge gap between joker and blacktham when joker play strong with germany team
I think if we were to make a list of the people most capable of looking someone in the eye without doing anything The_Joker would be first, what a shit list.
tbf i really do not understand why mels is that high. there is definently other players who are better than him now a days - he also barely plays. rikus for example has been performing a lot better in recent tournaments, especially nwwc
Get things off your chest and talk :o All you need to do is pick up the pen and begin.cope and seeth + ratioNo way Fietta/sHype should be below blitz and barro, at the least they should be in line with him. Yes, Blitz maybe plays more rounds but as we saw in several tournaments recently, not very well.Personally, I think Fietta and sHype both suffer from the same conditioning in RT. In the Mages final, Fietta got first picked in the first two rounds because he was lunging - then he took a backfoot and stayed on Achilles' hip and their flank started winning. There isn't much else to go on for him, but from our POVs when he plays without Achilles he's quite unimpactful and not particularly difficult to pressure. sHype is a hard one. I'm perhaps overly negative because I was picking him in the 7v7 final, but I can see the justification for putting him higher. We tried to avoid using "matchups" (in the sense of, I outplayed x so I should be above them) but it forms part of people's opinions regardless of that. I think he can be quite inconsistent though.
I don't quite understand your point, sure I was picked but just from a finals you can't make assumptions, I didn't in any case play bad - but you're obviously deluded to base it off one match. I don't need to be impactful with Achilles, because that's his role as we discussed and not mine. Again, there's plenty of times I've not played with Achilles and somewhere else and played extremely well, the match before the finals I played exceptionally well. If this list is solely off 'what you've seen', then how are you rating all the other 80 players on this list which you haven't seen and the people you have seen is based on one match.
Bagins actually made Renegades on the basis of it not potentially being a 'winning' team, at least not at the start, but wanted to improve on the players it has as you guys have 'potential', but potential doesn't mean you're a great player. Also, making picking compilations also doesn't really show much as you're also not seeing how you're not getting picked. According to Blitz's video looked like Mages was farming RT, but that simply wasn't true. There's two sides to a video, but obviously you're not going to show you dying. If you were smart, you'd understand that the majority of the performances given from Renegades, is because of teamplay and leadership rather than individual skill, as you've said, you've learnt a lot, but haven't seen you perform outside of the same players you have been playing with. Teamplay is obviously very useful and is talent, but being spoon-fed constantly doesn't in any sense mean you're playing for yourself.
England performed well (still questionable plays from you in middle, and Hypno too), however, if you actually analysed how ENG have played, you can tell that it was because of how Bagins made you play, which is why it was a mess before Bagins took over and at that point and still up until the finals, there were questions if you would actually play in it, and thus competition began between you and Cody. Bagins is trying to place players in the right places and telling you how to play, which is great for winning, but doesn't mean a lot when it comes to individuality.
I understand lists are subjective, but making wild claims based on someone getting picked a couple of times is silly and then basing your entire rating on that is absolutely strange to me. It's just convenient that these points were made by the people who've been playing with each other for the past couple months and these same people are also exaggerated in this list.
I know a lot of things unfortunately x
Joker > Blitzkrieg(https://i.gyazo.com/0f7697b6a854b3f2937a9198cae39973.png)IDKW there is a huge gap between joker and blacktham when joker play strong with germany team
I think if we were to make a list of the people most capable of looking someone in the eye without doing anything The_Joker would be first, what a shit list.
Get things off your chest and talk :o All you need to do is pick up the pen and begin.cope and seeth + ratioNo way Fietta/sHype should be below blitz and barro, at the least they should be in line with him. Yes, Blitz maybe plays more rounds but as we saw in several tournaments recently, not very well.Personally, I think Fietta and sHype both suffer from the same conditioning in RT. In the Mages final, Fietta got first picked in the first two rounds because he was lunging - then he took a backfoot and stayed on Achilles' hip and their flank started winning. There isn't much else to go on for him, but from our POVs when he plays without Achilles he's quite unimpactful and not particularly difficult to pressure. sHype is a hard one. I'm perhaps overly negative because I was picking him in the 7v7 final, but I can see the justification for putting him higher. We tried to avoid using "matchups" (in the sense of, I outplayed x so I should be above them) but it forms part of people's opinions regardless of that. I think he can be quite inconsistent though.
I don't quite understand your point, sure I was picked but just from a finals you can't make assumptions, I didn't in any case play bad - but you're obviously deluded to base it off one match. I don't need to be impactful with Achilles, because that's his role as we discussed and not mine. Again, there's plenty of times I've not played with Achilles and somewhere else and played extremely well, the match before the finals I played exceptionally well. If this list is solely off 'what you've seen', then how are you rating all the other 80 players on this list which you haven't seen and the people you have seen is based on one match.
Bagins actually made Renegades on the basis of it not potentially being a 'winning' team, at least not at the start, but wanted to improve on the players it has as you guys have 'potential', but potential doesn't mean you're a great player. Also, making picking compilations also doesn't really show much as you're also not seeing how you're not getting picked. According to Blitz's video looked like Mages was farming RT, but that simply wasn't true. There's two sides to a video, but obviously you're not going to show you dying. If you were smart, you'd understand that the majority of the performances given from Renegades, is because of teamplay and leadership rather than individual skill, as you've said, you've learnt a lot, but haven't seen you perform outside of the same players you have been playing with. Teamplay is obviously very useful and is talent, but being spoon-fed constantly doesn't in any sense mean you're playing for yourself.
England performed well (still questionable plays from you in middle, and Hypno too), however, if you actually analysed how ENG have played, you can tell that it was because of how Bagins made you play, which is why it was a mess before Bagins took over and at that point and still up until the finals, there were questions if you would actually play in it, and thus competition began between you and Cody. Bagins is trying to place players in the right places and telling you how to play, which is great for winning, but doesn't mean a lot when it comes to individuality.
I understand lists are subjective, but making wild claims based on someone getting picked a couple of times is silly and then basing your entire rating on that is absolutely strange to me. It's just convenient that these points were made by the people who've been playing with each other for the past couple months and these same people are also exaggerated in this list.
I know a lot of things unfortunately x
You are biaised because Fietta said the same thing yesterday but you didnt quote himtbf i really do not understand why mels is that high. there is definently other players who are better than him now a days - he also barely plays. rikus for example has been performing a lot better in recent tournaments, especially nwwc
You know the state of the community is poor, when Jakob actually speaks the most sense here.
Fietta, Blitzkrieg, Herishey, Hertz and Alf... The big benches giving their opinion...
It’s actually so fucking rude he missed you off. Come join the big boys kore. I changed it to make it better.Movement, HerculesTP, Kore, Herishey, Hertz and Alf... The big benches giving their opinion...
Should I join in as well?
this is a NWWC ENG bench editionFietta, Blitzkrieg, Herishey, Hertz and Alf... The big benches giving their opinion...
Should I join in as well?
this is a NWWC ENG bench editionFietta, Blitzkrieg, Herishey, Hertz and Alf... The big benches giving their opinion...
Should I join in as well?
It’s actually so fucking rude he missed you off. Come join the big boys kore. I changed it to make it better.Movement, HerculesTP, Kore, Herishey, Hertz and Alf... The big benches giving their opinion...
Should I join in as well?
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CHUCKSRER UR FUCKING GAYThe ants enjoyed the barbecue more than the family.
i microwave ants sometimes
i microwave ants sometimesIt didn't make sense unless you had the power to eat colors.
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why is no one talking about this wursti schmuck at the top of tier 2, he has never been better than bunter and he has been vastly overrated by all 4 of u guys, poor poor oversight imo
Did the door slam on the watermelon?CHUCKSRER UR FUCKING GAYThe ants enjoyed the barbecue more than the family.
When we had bbq as a kid I used to trap ants on my bubble gum and then I threw them into fire
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hey why am i getting called out from a bunch of newgens? @herisheyI prefer not to speak
fair enoughhey why am i getting called out from a bunch of newgens? @herisheyI prefer not to speak
Joker > Blitzkrieg(https://i.gyazo.com/0f7697b6a854b3f2937a9198cae39973.png)IDKW there is a huge gap between joker and blacktham when joker play strong with germany team
I think if we were to make a list of the people most capable of looking someone in the eye without doing anything The_Joker would be first, what a shit list.
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gibby doing nothing during every round of nwwc and just taking revenge kills going that high kind of a jock ngl (u gotta start admitting maximou is way better than you instead of rigging that list cuz ur ego is pushing u to think like a fuckin retard)The whole community is going down now with this list, everyone panic!
i think we gotta comeback from our retirement to trashtalk even more than before vegi, community still didnt understandgibby doing nothing during every round of nwwc and just taking revenge kills going that high kind of a jock ngl (u gotta start admitting maximou is way better than you instead of rigging that list cuz ur ego is pushing u to think like a fuckin retard)The whole community is going down now with this list, everyone panic!
good listHigen stop being nice
srygood listHigen stop being nice
gibby doing nothing during every round of nwwc and just taking revenge kills going that high kind of a jock ngl (u gotta start admitting maximou is way better than you instead of rigging that list cuz ur ego is pushing u to think like a fuckin retard)Maximou has been pretty cracked recently, at least in comparison.
24k messages bro fuckin insane ur such an elder heregibby doing nothing during every round of nwwc and just taking revenge kills going that high kind of a jock ngl (u gotta start admitting maximou is way better than you instead of rigging that list cuz ur ego is pushing u to think like a fuckin retard)Maximou has been pretty cracked recently, at least in comparison.
Starting to feel like an elder in real life also dw.24k messages bro fuckin insane ur such an elder heregibby doing nothing during every round of nwwc and just taking revenge kills going that high kind of a jock ngl (u gotta start admitting maximou is way better than you instead of rigging that list cuz ur ego is pushing u to think like a fuckin retard)Maximou has been pretty cracked recently, at least in comparison.
At the beginning of the year i was teaching in 10yo class and i was feeling old afStarting to feel like an elder in real life also dw.24k messages bro fuckin insane ur such an elder heregibby doing nothing during every round of nwwc and just taking revenge kills going that high kind of a jock ngl (u gotta start admitting maximou is way better than you instead of rigging that list cuz ur ego is pushing u to think like a fuckin retard)Maximou has been pretty cracked recently, at least in comparison.
At the beginning of the year i was teaching in 10yo class and i was feeling old afStarting to feel like an elder in real life also dw.24k messages bro fuckin insane ur such an elder heregibby doing nothing during every round of nwwc and just taking revenge kills going that high kind of a jock ngl (u gotta start admitting maximou is way better than you instead of rigging that list cuz ur ego is pushing u to think like a fuckin retard)Maximou has been pretty cracked recently, at least in comparison.
Well, prolly not talking about the majority of the NW retards here, but my education takes another 3 years :(I still get surprised when people tell me they're busy because of 'exams'. Not had an exam in like 6-7 years.SpoilerAt the beginning of the year i was teaching in 10yo class and i was feeling old afStarting to feel like an elder in real life also dw.24k messages bro fuckin insane ur such an elder heregibby doing nothing during every round of nwwc and just taking revenge kills going that high kind of a jock ngl (u gotta start admitting maximou is way better than you instead of rigging that list cuz ur ego is pushing u to think like a fuckin retard)Maximou has been pretty cracked recently, at least in comparison.[close]
I still get surprised when people tell me they're busy because of 'exams'. Not had an exam in like 6-7 years.SpoilerAt the beginning of the year i was teaching in 10yo class and i was feeling old afStarting to feel like an elder in real life also dw.24k messages bro fuckin insane ur such an elder heregibby doing nothing during every round of nwwc and just taking revenge kills going that high kind of a jock ngl (u gotta start admitting maximou is way better than you instead of rigging that list cuz ur ego is pushing u to think like a fuckin retard)Maximou has been pretty cracked recently, at least in comparison.[close]
pwnedI still get surprised when people tell me they're busy because of 'exams'. Not had an exam in like 6-7 years.SpoilerAt the beginning of the year i was teaching in 10yo class and i was feeling old afStarting to feel like an elder in real life also dw.24k messages bro fuckin insane ur such an elder heregibby doing nothing during every round of nwwc and just taking revenge kills going that high kind of a jock ngl (u gotta start admitting maximou is way better than you instead of rigging that list cuz ur ego is pushing u to think like a fuckin retard)Maximou has been pretty cracked recently, at least in comparison.[close]
what are you, fucking 35 ?
Coming from you nock. Old bastardI still get surprised when people tell me they're busy because of 'exams'. Not had an exam in like 6-7 years.SpoilerAt the beginning of the year i was teaching in 10yo class and i was feeling old afStarting to feel like an elder in real life also dw.24k messages bro fuckin insane ur such an elder heregibby doing nothing during every round of nwwc and just taking revenge kills going that high kind of a jock ngl (u gotta start admitting maximou is way better than you instead of rigging that list cuz ur ego is pushing u to think like a fuckin retard)Maximou has been pretty cracked recently, at least in comparison.[close]
what are you, fucking 35 ?
I'm not Snikkel. 25. I just didn't bother going to uni as I had a good job offer at 18.I still get surprised when people tell me they're busy because of 'exams'. Not had an exam in like 6-7 years.SpoilerAt the beginning of the year i was teaching in 10yo class and i was feeling old afStarting to feel like an elder in real life also dw.24k messages bro fuckin insane ur such an elder heregibby doing nothing during every round of nwwc and just taking revenge kills going that high kind of a jock ngl (u gotta start admitting maximou is way better than you instead of rigging that list cuz ur ego is pushing u to think like a fuckin retard)Maximou has been pretty cracked recently, at least in comparison.[close]
what are you, fucking 35 ?
Stella drinking pikeyI'm not Snikkel. 25. I just didn't bother going to uni as I had a good job offer at 18.I still get surprised when people tell me they're busy because of 'exams'. Not had an exam in like 6-7 years.SpoilerAt the beginning of the year i was teaching in 10yo class and i was feeling old afStarting to feel like an elder in real life also dw.24k messages bro fuckin insane ur such an elder heregibby doing nothing during every round of nwwc and just taking revenge kills going that high kind of a jock ngl (u gotta start admitting maximou is way better than you instead of rigging that list cuz ur ego is pushing u to think like a fuckin retard)Maximou has been pretty cracked recently, at least in comparison.[close]
what are you, fucking 35 ?
I don't even drink Stella you rat child.Stella drinking pikeyI'm not Snikkel. 25. I just didn't bother going to uni as I had a good job offer at 18.I still get surprised when people tell me they're busy because of 'exams'. Not had an exam in like 6-7 years.SpoilerAt the beginning of the year i was teaching in 10yo class and i was feeling old afStarting to feel like an elder in real life also dw.24k messages bro fuckin insane ur such an elder heregibby doing nothing during every round of nwwc and just taking revenge kills going that high kind of a jock ngl (u gotta start admitting maximou is way better than you instead of rigging that list cuz ur ego is pushing u to think like a fuckin retard)Maximou has been pretty cracked recently, at least in comparison.[close]
what are you, fucking 35 ?
Yeah yeah that's what they all sayI don't even drink Stella you rat child.Stella drinking pikeyI'm not Snikkel. 25. I just didn't bother going to uni as I had a good job offer at 18.I still get surprised when people tell me they're busy because of 'exams'. Not had an exam in like 6-7 years.SpoilerAt the beginning of the year i was teaching in 10yo class and i was feeling old afStarting to feel like an elder in real life also dw.24k messages bro fuckin insane ur such an elder heregibby doing nothing during every round of nwwc and just taking revenge kills going that high kind of a jock ngl (u gotta start admitting maximou is way better than you instead of rigging that list cuz ur ego is pushing u to think like a fuckin retard)Maximou has been pretty cracked recently, at least in comparison.[close]
what are you, fucking 35 ?
Coming from you nock. Old bastardI still get surprised when people tell me they're busy because of 'exams'. Not had an exam in like 6-7 years.SpoilerAt the beginning of the year i was teaching in 10yo class and i was feeling old afStarting to feel like an elder in real life also dw.24k messages bro fuckin insane ur such an elder heregibby doing nothing during every round of nwwc and just taking revenge kills going that high kind of a jock ngl (u gotta start admitting maximou is way better than you instead of rigging that list cuz ur ego is pushing u to think like a fuckin retard)Maximou has been pretty cracked recently, at least in comparison.[close]
what are you, fucking 35 ?
What an idiot right guys, lets all focus on his age not mine k?Coming from you nock. Old bastardI still get surprised when people tell me they're busy because of 'exams'. Not had an exam in like 6-7 years.SpoilerAt the beginning of the year i was teaching in 10yo class and i was feeling old afStarting to feel like an elder in real life also dw.24k messages bro fuckin insane ur such an elder heregibby doing nothing during every round of nwwc and just taking revenge kills going that high kind of a jock ngl (u gotta start admitting maximou is way better than you instead of rigging that list cuz ur ego is pushing u to think like a fuckin retard)Maximou has been pretty cracked recently, at least in comparison.[close]
what are you, fucking 35 ?
nice quote old geezer
Back in my day👴🏼
Nice quote skills hertzI still get surprised when people tell me they're busy because of 'exams'. Not had an exam in like 6-7 years.SpoilerAt the beginning of the year i was teaching in 10yo class and i was feeling old afStarting to feel like an elder in real life also dw.24k messages bro fuckin insane ur such an elder heregibby doing nothing during every round of nwwc and just taking revenge kills going that high kind of a jock ngl (u gotta start admitting maximou is way better than you instead of rigging that list cuz ur ego is pushing u to think like a fuckin retard)Maximou has been pretty cracked recently, at least in comparison.[close]
Coming from you nock. Old bastard
what are you, fucking 35 ?
just played fietta in mm, hes quite shit - move him down
I'm wondering what your ratings are Alf?just played fietta in mm, hes quite shit - move him down
Jakob speaks facts
I'm wondering what your ratings are Alf?just played fietta in mm, hes quite shit - move him down
Jakob speaks facts
Dw I'll put you on N. PointsI'm wondering what your ratings are Alf?just played fietta in mm, hes quite shit - move him down
Jakob speaks facts
Too good for this list sorry
Dw I'll put you on N. PointsI'm wondering what your ratings are Alf?just played fietta in mm, hes quite shit - move him down
Jakob speaks facts
Too good for this list sorry
Dw I'll put you on N. PointsI'm wondering what your ratings are Alf?just played fietta in mm, hes quite shit - move him down
Jakob speaks facts
Too good for this list sorry
i see u nock go back to farming orbsi'm taking a break from being a no life
i didn’t know you are blackDw I'll put you on N. PointsI'm wondering what your ratings are Alf?just played fietta in mm, hes quite shit - move him down
Jakob speaks facts
Too good for this list sorry
but i'm not collaborating with you for my list ??
I beat bagins 7-3 why am I not tier 1? lol...silly lists
Dead list just like hireaper and giornos 2v2 aspirations 🤣🤣🤣🤣L LMFAO
Dead list just like hireaper and giornos 2v2 aspirations 🤣🤣🤣🤣
reminder that fungus is the greatest player of all time
I don’t know both of these kidswho are you?
lebrun > vladlecocringe + cant even type my name right + downspammer
cringe but truelebrun > vladlecocringe + cant even type my name right + downspammer
cringe but truelebrun > vladlecocringe + cant even type my name right + downspammer
ft7 ? :)proof ?cringe but truelebrun > vladlecocringe + cant even type my name right + downspammer
cringe!
i played out of my mind as a 65 ratedTURN ON THE MICROWAVE MOVEMENT
Performances in the following tournaments are relevant to this list:
- NWWC 2022
- RGT Season 12
- Randomised Tourney (TRT III)
- 7v7 Sword & Bayo
i played out of my mind as a 65 ratedTURN ON THE MICROWAVE MOVEMENT
Why are these kids taking my number 1 spot! Time to retire and play for honor 8)for honor is dying harder than NW ngl
I like for honor but it has always been a bit deadWhy are these kids taking my number 1 spot! Time to retire and play for honor 8)for honor is dying harder than NW ngl
you thought the blue spam was funny, now look at all the orange spam hero's they keep releasing. biggest problem with that game is the insane unbalance between some hero'sI used to love Warlord for the consta stuns you could do on people but there are way better ones now.
It's easy just go Raider and do the hyper chain.you thought the blue spam was funny, now look at all the orange spam hero's they keep releasing. biggest problem with that game is the insane unbalance between some hero'sI used to love Warlord for the consta stuns you could do on people but there are way better ones now.
I spit on you and your raider, become a tiandi chad like myselfIt's easy just go Raider and do the hyper chain.you thought the blue spam was funny, now look at all the orange spam hero's they keep releasing. biggest problem with that game is the insane unbalance between some hero'sI used to love Warlord for the consta stuns you could do on people but there are way better ones now.
It's easy just go Raider and do the hyper chain.you thought the blue spam was funny, now look at all the orange spam hero's they keep releasing. biggest problem with that game is the insane unbalance between some hero'sI used to love Warlord for the consta stuns you could do on people but there are way better ones now.
why call his New gen points if he only has tramps who have been playing for at least 3 years? and why did you remove the T4 and T5 from the list despite it being bullshit like the t1
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48306.0why call his New gen points if he only has tramps who have been playing for at least 3 years? and why did you remove the T4 and T5 from the list despite it being bullshit like the t1
give your "accurate" t1 then
Valkyrie > AllI spit on you and your raider, become a tiandi chad like myselfIt's easy just go Raider and do the hyper chain.you thought the blue spam was funny, now look at all the orange spam hero's they keep releasing. biggest problem with that game is the insane unbalance between some hero'sI used to love Warlord for the consta stuns you could do on people but there are way better ones now.
i should be just for how much i farm people in mm and reg gfsBeen done dirty
Why were the fourth and fifth sections deleted? It was a good table, why remove half of the players from it?@Gibby ?
French + L + watiohttps://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48306.0why call his New gen points if he only has tramps who have been playing for at least 3 years? and why did you remove the T4 and T5 from the list despite it being bullshit like the t1
give your "accurate" t1 then
Why were the fourth and fifth sections deleted? It was a good table, why remove half of the players from it?We felt it wasn’t fair for us to rank players in those categories as we hardly played vs most of those players. So we removed it, sorry. maybe when a league 2 tournament format comes out again we will re-add it as we can see a more accurate display of skill but till then we will keep it as three tiers
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sorry I don't know how to decipher the language used by botsFrench + L + watiohttps://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48306.0why call his New gen points if he only has tramps who have been playing for at least 3 years? and why did you remove the T4 and T5 from the list despite it being bullshit like the t1
give your "accurate" t1 then
You know when I said Gi should be above Irish, I lied he's fucking trash he can't beat a 50 beer down Herishey, he lost 7-2.
the game is in a bad place right now
the game is in a bad place right now
Why am I on here?Because you carry Tommy and all the other gays in Kamikaze
Incorrect!Why am I on here?Because you carry Tommy and all the other gays in Kamikaze
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Tier 1 is Tier 1 not top 10 who even are the bottom 4 again?
Tier 1 is Tier 1 not top 10 who even are the bottom 4 again?
Tier 1 is Tier 1 not top 10 who even are the bottom 4 again?
i dont even need to launch m&b to get on rated now LETS GOOOliterally the opposite for me
As if you dont know that no one dont understand how to make points ::)i dont even need to launch m&b to get on rated now LETS GOOOliterally the opposite for me
also why are bunter and red rated the same but in different tiers lmao
i dont even need to launch m&b to get on rated now LETS GOOO
As if you dont know that no one dont understand how to make points ::)i dont even need to launch m&b to get on rated now LETS GOOOliterally the opposite for me
also why are bunter and red rated the same but in different tiers lmao
As if you dont know that no one dont understand how to make points ::)i dont even need to launch m&b to get on rated now LETS GOOOliterally the opposite for me
also why are bunter and red rated the same but in different tiers lmao
true I'd thought after 8 years we'd have this shit figured out
Hopefully it's on your school curriculum, and you can show us how to really do itAs if you dont know that no one dont understand how to make points ::)i dont even need to launch m&b to get on rated now LETS GOOOliterally the opposite for me
also why are bunter and red rated the same but in different tiers lmao
As if you dont know that no one dont understand how to make points ::)i dont even need to launch m&b to get on rated now LETS GOOOliterally the opposite for me
also why are bunter and red rated the same but in different tiers lmao
true I'd thought after 8 years we'd have this shit figured out
who even are youTier 1 is Tier 1 not top 10 who even are the bottom 4 again?
who even are youTier 1 is Tier 1 not top 10 who even are the bottom 4 again?
Can we put queen lizzy as tier 1long live the king
the queen reigned for over 70 years but even she didnt outlive blitz and fietta cringe :-[
king giornington iii ?the queen reigned for over 70 years but even she didnt outlive blitz and fietta cringe :-[
rip
time for a king anywaysSpoiler(https://yt3.ggpht.com/a/AATXAJxgapck_Iwmgel3wSSujHL6rOhTsGlykj8V2w=s900-c-k-c0xffffffff-no-rj-mo)[close]
who even are youTier 1 is Tier 1 not top 10 who even are the bottom 4 again?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw9FIeHbdB8who even are youTier 1 is Tier 1 not top 10 who even are the bottom 4 again?
Nice playground reply ;)
Bro, go sleep you have school tomorrowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw9FIeHbdB8who even are youTier 1 is Tier 1 not top 10 who even are the bottom 4 again?
Nice playground reply ;)
should have listened, now I overslept :´(Bro, go sleep you have school tomorrowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw9FIeHbdB8who even are youTier 1 is Tier 1 not top 10 who even are the bottom 4 again?
Nice playground reply ;)
Dw i gotchu, I'll remind you next timeshould have listened, now I overslept :´(Bro, go sleep you have school tomorrowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw9FIeHbdB8who even are youTier 1 is Tier 1 not top 10 who even are the bottom 4 again?
Nice playground reply ;)
PuffTheDragon is a waiting-to-be goatI thought PD was Padawan, I was very upset to find out its a native swinging noob X_X
I always knew you were stupid, but didnt think you were that stupidPuffTheDragon is a waiting-to-be goatI thought PD was Padawan, I was very upset to find out its a native swinging noob X_X
Hey I left school a while ago, that's not fair. You're still learning.I always knew you were stupid, but didnt think you were that stupidPuffTheDragon is a waiting-to-be goatI thought PD was Padawan, I was very upset to find out its a native swinging noob X_X
why u bully kids?Hey I left school a while ago, that's not fair. You're still learning.I always knew you were stupid, but didnt think you were that stupidPuffTheDragon is a waiting-to-be goatI thought PD was Padawan, I was very upset to find out its a native swinging noob X_X
Im not vegi that you can reproach me with school, come up with something else ;)Hey I left school a while ago, that's not fair. You're still learning.I always knew you were stupid, but didnt think you were that stupidPuffTheDragon is a waiting-to-be goatI thought PD was Padawan, I was very upset to find out its a native swinging noob X_X
Haha fatbtw blitz, have you noticed that only thanks to me and vegi this game is still alive because only we make content for you :P
the food comes out of ur mouth and you start spreading nonsense...Haha fatbtw blitz, have you noticed that only thanks to me and vegi this game is still alive because only we make content for you :P
spread jam not nonsensethe food comes out of ur mouth and you start spreading nonsense...Haha fatbtw blitz, have you noticed that only thanks to me and vegi this game is still alive because only we make content for you :P
I"d say what coming out of your friend now, but I was taught in church not to say bad things :) ::)the food comes out of ur mouth and you start spreading nonsense...Haha fatbtw blitz, have you noticed that only thanks to me and vegi this game is still alive because only we make content for you :P
spread jam not nonsensethe food comes out of ur mouth and you start spreading nonsense...Haha fatbtw blitz, have you noticed that only thanks to me and vegi this game is still alive because only we make content for you :P
Church is a lieI"d say what coming out of your friend now, but I was taught in church not to say bad things :) ::)the food comes out of ur mouth and you start spreading nonsense...Haha fatbtw blitz, have you noticed that only thanks to me and vegi this game is still alive because only we make content for you :P
Love how Ireland has a new best player to take over Ivan! Irish>Ivan>Giorno! Such great tradition and great players all three of them! #ChainOfSuccession!!!I miss your retardation on the forums. I cannot live up to it sadly enough.
I think you're holding down the retardation fort just fine buddy!Love how Ireland has a new best player to take over Ivan! Irish>Ivan>Giorno! Such great tradition and great players all three of them! #ChainOfSuccession!!!I miss your retardation on the forums. I cannot live up to it sadly enough.
Love how Ireland has a new best player to take over Ivan! Irish>Ivan>Giorno! Such great tradition and great players all three of them! #ChainOfSuccession!!!
Vol gonna get a laptop and play NW soon againim not ready for that
Love you too you know me so well, need some drama or something spice my life up.Love how Ireland has a new best player to take over Ivan! Irish>Ivan>Giorno! Such great tradition and great players all three of them! #ChainOfSuccession!!!
You can tell when you get a bit bored vol, either on poosy ts or chatting waffle on the forums. Always a sight to behold
You're only allowed back once you have smaller tits than ericsonJLove you too you know me so well, need some drama or something spice my life up.Love how Ireland has a new best player to take over Ivan! Irish>Ivan>Giorno! Such great tradition and great players all three of them! #ChainOfSuccession!!!
You can tell when you get a bit bored vol, either on poosy ts or chatting waffle on the forums. Always a sight to behold
Don’t know who that is and don’t know who you are skid brbYou're only allowed back once you have smaller tits than ericsonJLove you too you know me so well, need some drama or something spice my life up.Love how Ireland has a new best player to take over Ivan! Irish>Ivan>Giorno! Such great tradition and great players all three of them! #ChainOfSuccession!!!
You can tell when you get a bit bored vol, either on poosy ts or chatting waffle on the forums. Always a sight to behold
sHype should go up to top 15 at least????? put me 99 and bagins 93 respectfully since I won 9 tournaments this year and bagins only 2 ?????. get a grip ????????Spoilerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvlAor2ONsc&t=179s&ab_channel=SalsaSauce
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sHype should go up to top 15 at least????? put me 99 and bagins 93 respectfully since I won 9 tournaments this year and bagins only 2 ?????. get a grip ????????Spoilerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvlAor2ONsc&t=179s&ab_channel=SalsaSauce
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Golden 87? Not even kidding This guy shouldn't be top 10!
Golden 87? Not even kidding This guy shouldn't be top 10!
I agree can't think of anyone else that's more overrated. ;D
Golden 87? Not even kidding This guy shouldn't be top 10!
I agree can't think of anyone else that's more overrated. ;D
What about bagins?
Golden 87? Not even kidding This guy shouldn't be top 10!
I agree can't think of anyone else that's more overrated. ;D
What about bagins?
Honestly! This guy thinks he's my level yet he gets clapped by the polish boys.
Another rushed update lol. Legit 0 care taken when trying to rank players. Zenon didn’t even attend ECS or ATS and yet he’s ranked.
You legit updated this in less than a day, I remember when we spent weeks on this list at the start. I spoke to both yourself and Gibby about this Monday evening and even gibby irl that day and both of you told me you’d update it soon and you’d put great care and effort into it, then it comes out Tuesday evening. That’s less than 24 hours put into a update. You didn’t even bother to include myself or hireaper again. If your gonna do a update at-least try to make it seem like you care instead of just ego boosting a certain individual.
you really have to either be blind or paying no attention to any teams but the 'big 2'.
wait wait where pro100pro archangel and SPERMKING ? racism ?who cares
clearly europeans with speedhz should not be on this list 8) 8)wait wait where pro100pro archangel and SPERMKING ? racism ?who cares
Golden 87? Not even kidding This guy shouldn't be top 10!
I agree can't think of anyone else that's more overrated. ;D
Golden 87? Not even kidding This guy shouldn't be top 10!
I agree can't think of anyone else that's more overrated. ;D
Literally in both your top 10s on achilles list lol
@me when your stack is not losing to a tik tok dance team
sHype you're criminally underrated on this list wth gibby ???
still waiting for you and reaps to hit the renegade irlSpoilerGolden 87? Not even kidding This guy shouldn't be top 10!
I agree can't think of anyone else that's more overrated. ;D
Literally in both your top 10s on achilles list lol
@me when your stack is not losing to a tik tok dance team
sHype you're criminally underrated on this list wth gibby ???[close]
still waiting for you and reaps to hit the renegade irlSpoilerGolden 87? Not even kidding This guy shouldn't be top 10!
I agree can't think of anyone else that's more overrated. ;D
Literally in both your top 10s on achilles list lol
@me when your stack is not losing to a tik tok dance team
sHype you're criminally underrated on this list wth gibby ???[close]
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reaper was getting sturdy doh
thanks! :) :) ;) ;) :D ;D
there is no way HiReaper is better than this many players 🤣🤣🤣🤣 taking the piss
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reaper was getting sturdy doh
I don't know how Hypno is even there (no offence Jack but you defo didn't have a better 6v6/role tournament than quite a few people below you).
Can't be, I'd be way lower!I don't know how Hypno is even there (no offence Jack but you defo didn't have a better 6v6/role tournament than quite a few people below you).
I believe it's based on penis size.
renegades after this tournament 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
you forget the polaks beat you last tournament and made it to bronze?renegades after this tournament 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
still a better result than cocotouch ever got before this tournament? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Role tournament?your profile pick is looking sexy vige
is niceRole tournament?your profile pick is looking sexy vige
is hotis niceRole tournament?your profile pick is looking sexy vige
how tf is bodya so low i stg hes cracked
Bodya should be 101p for his dedication to the game
when is updated le cookerwhen you tell you coming back to school