how bad are the riots if I may ask? I cant imagine that they are enough to actually matter, I mean it has to be a small minority right?Well the riots vary. Detroit and some other cities have some peaceful protests (I think their still going on). I think it's pretty bad on the west coast. Their attacking cars, shops, and bystanders. There's a video of an old man who voted for trump getting beat and his car stolen. In Philly, a homeless veteran has been beat to death. There has also been cop that has been killed (maybe some more that were wounded). The cops began using riot gear. That's about as far as I know.
Did this get posted yet? One of the best Videos I watched in a while.yea that videos been posted a couple of times. It never gets old
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs
In regards to electoral college, it does come down to states rights and equal representation of the state.
States are different, in economics, culture, laws, etc..
and if the electoral college was dismantled and it went by popular vote/ then more states than the few blue would feel there representation didn't mean anything at all,and that a few states gain full power.
That's why it exists in general, so I don't believe in a full dismantlement but definitely needs to be modified in terms of gerrymandering and other sketchy policies
mfw Donald Trump is only going to take a $1 salary instead of $400k. TOP MEME
mfw Donald Trump is only going to take a $1 salary instead of $400k. TOP MEMEdidnt he say he wasn't going to touch $1 of his salary?
There is no gerrymandering in the Electoral college.
mfw Donald Trump is only going to take a $1 salary instead of $400k. TOP MEMEdidnt he say he wasn't going to touch $1 of his salary?
there have been a couple of presidents who donated their salary to charity. He should just do thatmfw Donald Trump is only going to take a $1 salary instead of $400k. TOP MEMEdidnt he say he wasn't going to touch $1 of his salary?
He said that he might have to lawfully take $1
there have been a couple of presidents who donated their salary to charity. He should just do thatmfw Donald Trump is only going to take a $1 salary instead of $400k. TOP MEMEdidnt he say he wasn't going to touch $1 of his salary?
He said that he might have to lawfully take $1
It is not like Donald Trump is going to help with the debt anyway...hes already doing better than Obama and he's not even in office yet
It is not like Donald Trump is going to help with the debt anyway...hes already doing better than Obama and he's not even in office yet
So? That's sorta the nature of regions. They differ. You also differ from your neighbour, but you don't claim that you are entiteled to four times his voting power.
apoc o no! You revealed trumpsbplan to the EUs!
So? That's sorta the nature of regions. They differ. You also differ from your neighbour, but you don't claim that you are entiteled to four times his voting power.
Your words betray your lack of knowledge of the history of the United States/States' rights.
The founders werent idiots, they aptly realized a federalist system was the best fit for the scope and diversity of the US and with their history with tyranny.
pictured: just "regions"
(https://caliglobetrotter.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/map_compare_united_states_europe.png)
apoc o no! You revealed trumpsbplan to the EUs!
So? That's sorta the nature of regions. They differ. You also differ from your neighbour, but you don't claim that you are entiteled to four times his voting power.
Your words betray your lack of knowledge of the history of the United States/States' rights.
The founders werent idiots, they aptly realized a federalist system was the best fit for the scope and diversity of the US and with their history with tyranny.
pictured: just "regions"
(https://caliglobetrotter.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/map_compare_united_states_europe.png)
fuk there's too many cats xDapoc o no! You revealed trumpsbplan to the EUs!
So? That's sorta the nature of regions. They differ. You also differ from your neighbour, but you don't claim that you are entiteled to four times his voting power.
Your words betray your lack of knowledge of the history of the United States/States' rights.
The founders werent idiots, they aptly realized a federalist system was the best fit for the scope and diversity of the US and with their history with tyranny.
pictured: just "regions"
(https://caliglobetrotter.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/map_compare_united_states_europe.png)
not apoc u pl3b
apoc o no! You revealed trumpsbplan to the EUs!
So? That's sorta the nature of regions. They differ. You also differ from your neighbour, but you don't claim that you are entiteled to four times his voting power.
Your words betray your lack of knowledge of the history of the United States/States' rights.
The founders werent idiots, they aptly realized a federalist system was the best fit for the scope and diversity of the US and with their history with tyranny.
pictured: just "regions"
(https://caliglobetrotter.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/map_compare_united_states_europe.png)
I never argued against a federal system, I argued against the election system of the federal government. You can have a federal system and still have proportional representation, like Germany, Brazil or Switzerland. You are strawmanning my argument.
The least they can do is give out Electoral Votes proportionally per state. I don't think a constitutional change is necessary for that and I don't see why anyone would argue against it. Trump would still have won, if that's what you're afraid of.
You do realize that the Republicans currently control 32 state legislatures, right?and they still lost the popular vote
You do realize that the Republicans currently control 32 state legislatures, right?
But trump just won due to that system, why would he try to change it?
Again not saying we shouldn't change it, but there were over 3000 counties that voted for Trump, comparative to only over 50 for Clinton (which included obviously every major city). Small towns and rural America wanted to be heard, and look at it this way, if the electoral college was fully destroyed; candidates would literally only campaign and care about cities and their votes, there would be no need to care about campaigning in the other thousands of counties; or for that matter give a damn about those constituents.I disagree somewhat, Wining the rural vote or a good chunk of it is key to winning my state. Even Obama said so the other day. That can be similar across the nation. but yes, major cities(not necessarily states) would have a larger effect on the vote count and get more attention. How blue they are is debatable. I would imagine there are a fair amount of people nation wide who don't vote because they feel their vote doesn't mean(or have the chance to) anything in the EC. Even rural counties can go blue, or less red.
I don't know, but to me it just doesn't seem logical. Sure Hillary only had 50 counties, but it happened that in these 50 counties, there are more people than in the 101010 remaining ones. In that sense, Hillary won.
The vote is supposed to (in my opinion) represent the people, and not the counties. More counties does not necessarily mean more people. The people should decide the vote, not a county.
In the end it all comes down that at the moment it makes (more or less) sense to have the system like it is right now. But in my opinion the states are too separated. They act almost like independent countries, but when you look at it closer, they are not. It is very weird.
But in my opinion the states are too separated. They act almost like independent countries, but when you look at it closer, they are not. It is very weird.
The Electoral College works under similar logic, allowing States to decide what best suits their needs
QuoteThe Electoral College works under similar logic, allowing States to decide what best suits their needs
But the 'states' do not decide. The parties do.
Also, gotta love that decentralized structure: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-wesson-immigration-advocate-20161117-story.html
My point is that you either should have a centralized government that governs all of the US, or have it split enough to actually matter. Right now it is both at the same time, which just does not make any sense.
Yes, most of the time. But not all the time.
There is a 7% failure rate. Meaning that the person that got fewer votes actually ends up being elected. The game is being won by the looser. It makes no sense.
Apoc has a 100% failure rate in duel tournaments.
Yes, most of the time. But not all the time.
There is a 7% failure rate. Meaning that the person that got fewer votes actually ends up being elected. The game is being won by the looser. It makes no sense.
It's not a 7% failure rate.
You are defining the game as a direct democracy, its not.
You don't "lose" when you win the presidency
Its about who the states are voting for. The States chose trump. Simple as that.
Apoc has a 100% failure rate in duel tournaments.
Yes, most of the time. But not all the time.
There is a 7% failure rate. Meaning that the person that got fewer votes actually ends up being elected. The game is being won by the looser. It makes no sense.
It's not a 7% failure rate.
You are defining the game as a direct democracy, its not.
You don't "lose" when you win the presidency
Its about who the states are voting for. The States chose trump. Simple as that.
I know it is not. It is not a direct failure obviously. But they get fewer votes yet still win. Something is wrong there. It has happened 4 times in the history of the US, which makes for a 7% failure rate.
Yes, most of the time. But not all the time.
There is a 7% failure rate. Meaning that the person that got fewer votes actually ends up being elected. The game is being won by the looser. It makes no sense.
It's not a 7% failure rate.
You are defining the game as a direct democracy, its not.
You don't "lose" when you win the presidency
Its about who the states are voting for. The States chose trump. Simple as that.
I know it is not. It is not a direct failure obviously. But they get fewer votes yet still win. Something is wrong there. It has happened 4 times in the history of the US, which makes for a 7% failure rate.
I understand what you mean, but a failure rate implies it's doing something it was not designed to do. It is doing exactly what it was designed to do.
Besides, with the EU having so many non-elected officials I think the US having a small "failure rate" when the popular vote gets REALLY close is excusable in the western world.
But the point is that it doesn't benefit the states either.
How does it 'work'? Does it elect the person most Americans want? No. Does it elect the person who wins a majority of the states? No. Does it force candidates to give attention to not just the great cities but to the entire country? No. Hell, no. The USA elects every single position in the legislative, executive or juridicary branches on every level of government by majority vote, except the presidency - then, suddenly, argueing that the most important position should also be elected by the majority becomes ridicious.
Please, enlighten me on how the Electoral College 'works', apart from that it happened to elect your favorite candidate this time.
The USA elects every single position in the legislative, executive or juridicary branches on every level of government by majority vote, except the presidency
A lot of people disagree with the concept of the senate like myself. It used to be worse when senators were appointed by state legislators instead of a direct vote by the people of a state.
Look this whole notion of 'muh states rights' is just bullshit that has stuck around since the fucking 1600s and has little basis in whats actually best for a nation. What even defines a state? Its not cultural, take where i live for example, our culture is that of chicago, not of indiana. Is it political? No, again with myself NW indiana votes democrat while the rest of the state votes republican. Is it geographical? Sometimes but it doesnt explain the often random straight lines. The answer is pretty much that a couple people in congress 200 or so years ago decided what is and isnt a state.
Of course local communities should have autonomy from the fed but the concept of a 'state' within a nation is rather dumb. At least the eurofags have national borders based on geography, culture and politics. We have artificial borders.
federalism
Federalism is a system of government in which entities such as states or provinces share power with a national government. The United States government functions according to the principles of federalism.
A lot of people disagree with the concept of the senate like myself. It used to be worse when senators were appointed by state legislators instead of a direct vote by the people of a state.
Look this whole notion of 'muh states rights' is just bullshit that has stuck around since the fucking 1600s and has little basis in whats actually best for a nation. What even defines a state? Its not cultural, take where i live for example, our culture is that of chicago, not of indiana. Is it political? No, again with myself NW indiana votes democrat while the rest of the state votes republican. Is it geographical? Sometimes but it doesnt explain the often random straight lines. The answer is pretty much that a couple people in congress 200 or so years ago decided what is and isnt a state.
Of course local communities should have autonomy from the fed but the concept of a 'state' within a nation is rather dumb. At least the eurofags have national borders based on geography, culture and politics. We have artificial borders.
Lets just be honest, Michigan is the only state that actually matters
Michigan won a war against Ohio. How many wars did Georgia win?Lets just be honest, Michigan is the only state that actually matters
Not even part of the OG 13. Georgia for the win you pleb.
Michigan won a war against Ohio. How many wars did Georgia win?Lets just be honest, Michigan is the only state that actually matters
Not even part of the OG 13. Georgia for the win you pleb.
Georgia is weakMichigan won a war against Ohio. How many wars did Georgia win?Lets just be honest, Michigan is the only state that actually matters
Not even part of the OG 13. Georgia for the win you pleb.
We rekt Florida
Literally our whole existence was to protect the other colonies from the Spainish in Florida
I assume you've now changed your opinion and the EU Commission should be elected (by majority rule) too right? Its the executive branch of the EU in the same way the presidency is the executive branch of the US.
Actually, if you take a look at how the US system of governance was designed, you will see its functionally more similar to the EU than to an average (parliamentary or otherwise) democracy. Mainly due to the vast expanse of territory and overwhelming regional disparities.
House of Representatives = European Parliament
Senate = European Council with one rep. per state instead of head of state
Executive/Presidency = European Commission - Even featuring an indirectly elected President based on representation of individual states. Fascinating... - designed to focus on national interests whilst allowing individual states to conduct their own affairs otherwise
I assume you've now changed your opinion and the EU Commission should be elected (by majority rule) too right? Its the executive branch of the EU in the same way the presidency is the executive branch of the US.
As the European Commission is already subject to a vote at the start its term and can be forced to resign by a vote of no confidence, I'd argue (as I have always done) that it's already elected in (well, almost) the same way the British or Dutch governments are elected. We do need to expand the powers of the European parliament to be able to fire individual Commissioners.
You can remove them from office by removing the entire commision from office. Yes, we should add the ability to fire individual commissioners, but now you're just saying things which aren't true.
There is also quite a lot of negioations during the approval. It's not a rubber stamp process.
*Snip* Go off topic again and you'll receive a formal warning
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Hold on let me ban him. We cat avatar guys have to stand together.
Hold on let me ban him. We cat avatar guys have to stand together.
jim avatar guys are better than cat avatar guys
Hold on let me ban him. We cat avatar guys have to stand together.
jim avatar guys are better than cat avatar guys
Hold on let me ban him. We cat avatar guys have to stand together.
jim avatar guys are better than cat avatar guys
Not true. It is scientifically proven that cat avatar guys are better.
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/11/why-cat-avatar-guys-are-better-than-jim-avatar-guys/
Are the republican candidates all going to be the justice league now
Are the republican candidates all going to be the justice league now
Poll results:
Should Trump be the President?
37 (88.1%)Yes
5 (11.9%)No
New poll up
Poll results:
Should Trump be the President?
37 (88.1%)Yes
5 (11.9%)No
New poll up
Most Hillary supporters/voters have indeed accepted the results. The few retards who haven't are just a really vocal minority.
Does Penn require ID? I originally checked here and it said it and most other swing states didn't: http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/voter-id.aspx
Can Trumps aides take away his twitter again?This is pure fire atm
is there any proof? Like any at all? No? OkCan Trumps aides take away his twitter again?This is pure fire atm
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Even when he wins, he's still saying that it was rigged xD what the actual fuck. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't but he won so it doesn't matter.
tes he should ignore it unless he has actual proof which he doesn't.Even when he wins, he's still saying that it was rigged xD what the actual fuck. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't but he won so it doesn't matter.
So him winning means he shouldn't point out that there's a potential mass voter fraud issue? Right, he should just ignore it so next time the bloodsucking illegals can double down and vote in their guy in 2020.
I guess I should expect this from the bisexual socialist at this point.
So one person managed to somehow stab 10 guys to death?'We're liberals, we're protecting you and your faith!! don't kill us D:'
HOW?
So one person managed to somehow stab 10 guys to death?he drove a car into a crowd, jumped out and just started stabbing everyone
HOW?
Hillary will be president tbh lads
That or they make some deal with the republicans to find a more suitable candidate. Maybe Pence? Either way they're really making it seem like they're going to challenge it in December. Which will be fucked up no matter the outcome.Still in the denial phase I see.
Speaking of trump being right, another peaceful refugee from the religion of peace stoke again yesterday at osu. Let's not being that up tho. Right?And all the libs care about is the backlash Muslims may or may not receive because of this.
Speaking of trump being right, another peaceful refugee from the religion of peace stoke again yesterday at osu. Let's not being that up tho. Right?
I am going to Florida in december, so please do not start a civil war before I am back home. Thank you.Stay away from the gay clubs and you should be fine
I am going to Florida in december, so please do not start a civil war before I am back home. Thank you.Stay away from the gay clubs and you should be fine
Pretty late but I just ordered my MAGA hat
dont worry i made sure I got the one made in ChinaPretty late but I just ordered my MAGA hat
Not too late to MAGA.
dont worry i made sure I got the one made in ChinaPretty late but I just ordered my MAGA hat
Not too late to MAGA.
Praise the donhallelujah
He just picked a Soros banker for Treasury Secretary#DrainTheSwamp
kek
He hasn't even mentioned the global bankers like Hitler did. Not even a real outsider 0/10.Trump is literally Hitler though
It's kinda funny but I highly doubt it-Justin resembles his brother Michel quite a lot (his other brother Alexandre not so much, maybe there are question marks there), so Margaret Trudeau would have had to have done it with Fidel twice over a long time frame. Then again she regularly cheated on her husband and had loose morals so who knows-Pierre Trudeau is the intellectual godfather of the SJW movement after all, maybe he knew about it and forgave her/encouraged it or whatever. Pierre was also a well known sexual deviant (as a 47 year old man he fell in love with Margaret who was only 18 at the time) so who knows what he got up to.
>Jill Stein starts campaign to raise money for recountHRC trying to get a recount without making it seem like she wants a recount.
>Mysteriously raises several times the amount of money she raised for her entire presidential campaign
nice meme
It's kinda funny but I highly doubt it-Justin resembles his brother Michel quite a lot (his other brother Alexandre not so much, maybe there are question marks there), so Margaret Trudeau would have had to have done it with Fidel twice over a long time frame. Then again she regularly cheated on her husband and had loose morals so who knows-Pierre Trudeau is the intellectual godfather of the SJW movement after all, maybe he knew about it and forgave her/encouraged it or whatever. Pierre was also a well known sexual deviant (as a 47 year old man he fell in love with Margaret who was only 18 at the time) so who knows what he got up to.
SJWs wouldn't use the war measures act to beat up quebec nationalist, they'd puss out and give them independence.
Still wondering why voter I.D. cards aren't issued to Americans yet. It pretty much eliminates the illegal vote and you need an I.D. for everything else. I just don't get how that makes it 'harder' to vote. India has voter I.D. cards and it has over a billion people. Strange.its cuz Americans are racist and don't give ids to minorities
Still wondering why voter I.D. cards aren't issued to Americans yet. It pretty much eliminates the illegal vote and you need an I.D. for everything else. I just don't get how that makes it 'harder' to vote. India has voter I.D. cards and it has over a billion people. Strange.it is not as easy as it sounds.
Valid points. The other way could be the use of a Driver's license or some form of identification such as a military ID, and if you don't have one of those, than you could apply for a voter ID card. My point is to make sure that only legal citizens are voting and that they can only vote once. I'm sick of dead people voting on both sides and the idea that illegal immigrants can sway the election is just mind boggling.Still wondering why voter I.D. cards aren't issued to Americans yet. It pretty much eliminates the illegal vote and you need an I.D. for everything else. I just don't get how that makes it 'harder' to vote. India has voter I.D. cards and it has over a billion people. Strange.it is not as easy as it sounds.
Depending on your PoV, you may or may not think they are necessary in the first place. Anyways, either state by state or the Fed gov would have to make up laws for it,(lots and lots of laws), you would have to make the ID cards which would be hard,(and make sure people cant make illegal copies), and you would have to make it EASILY accessible for everyone to get. The moment it becomes hard for people to get their ID, you start to disenfranchise people. and their are arguments against ID cards as they hurt the *insert group here* more than your average person. They wouldn't have the time, ability to, and possibly other stuff prevents them from ever getting an ID when they normally could and did legally vote in the past.
You cant charge people to pay for the IDs either,(would basically be another poll tax) so either the state or the Fed would have to eat the very expensive cost. some States, for one reason or another have a hard time even having enough polling places due to costs.(so they say anyways) If they cant get enough polling places to allow people to vote in a reasonable amount of time,(no one should have to wait an hour, let alone 3+ hours) how will they afford this expensive change? I already hate going to the DMV, imagine doing this and having to wait even longer.(in some states you have to make an appointment to go to the DMV, possibly the same here)
anyways, these are some of the possible issues. there may be other points i didnt address here. Perhaps you or others would be able to handle the above questions if it came to making voting IDs required. i hope anyways you can at least understand some of the issues above, even if you disagree with them or think they are minor.
Cept then you have states like California where you can get a drivers license without being a citizenValid points. The other way could be the use of a Driver's license or some form of identification such as a military ID, and if you don't have one of those, than you could apply for a voter ID card. My point is to make sure that only legal citizens are voting and that they can only vote once. I'm sick of dead people voting on both sides and the idea that illegal immigrants can sway the election is just mind boggling.Still wondering why voter I.D. cards aren't issued to Americans yet. It pretty much eliminates the illegal vote and you need an I.D. for everything else. I just don't get how that makes it 'harder' to vote. India has voter I.D. cards and it has over a billion people. Strange.it is not as easy as it sounds.
Depending on your PoV, you may or may not think they are necessary in the first place. Anyways, either state by state or the Fed gov would have to make up laws for it,(lots and lots of laws), you would have to make the ID cards which would be hard,(and make sure people cant make illegal copies), and you would have to make it EASILY accessible for everyone to get. The moment it becomes hard for people to get their ID, you start to disenfranchise people. and their are arguments against ID cards as they hurt the *insert group here* more than your average person. They wouldn't have the time, ability to, and possibly other stuff prevents them from ever getting an ID when they normally could and did legally vote in the past.
You cant charge people to pay for the IDs either,(would basically be another poll tax) so either the state or the Fed would have to eat the very expensive cost. some States, for one reason or another have a hard time even having enough polling places due to costs.(so they say anyways) If they cant get enough polling places to allow people to vote in a reasonable amount of time,(no one should have to wait an hour, let alone 3+ hours) how will they afford this expensive change? I already hate going to the DMV, imagine doing this and having to wait even longer.(in some states you have to make an appointment to go to the DMV, possibly the same here)
anyways, these are some of the possible issues. there may be other points i didnt address here. Perhaps you or others would be able to handle the above questions if it came to making voting IDs required. i hope anyways you can at least understand some of the issues above, even if you disagree with them or think they are minor.
Duuring took our avatarsIm going to write a formal complaint to olaf. TO THE DONATER BOARD
Tyranny!
not everyone has a car or knows how to drive. and siwi raised another valid point. you dont need to be a citizen to get a license.Valid points. The other way could be the use of a Driver's license or some form of identification such as a military ID, and if you don't have one of those, than you could apply for a voter ID card. My point is to make sure that only legal citizens are voting and that they can only vote once. I'm sick of dead people voting on both sides and the idea that illegal immigrants can sway the election is just mind boggling.Still wondering why voter I.D. cards aren't issued to Americans yet. It pretty much eliminates the illegal vote and you need an I.D. for everything else. I just don't get how that makes it 'harder' to vote. India has voter I.D. cards and it has over a billion people. Strange.it is not as easy as it sounds.
Depending on your PoV, you may or may not think they are necessary in the first place. Anyways, either state by state or the Fed gov would have to make up laws for it,(lots and lots of laws), you would have to make the ID cards which would be hard,(and make sure people cant make illegal copies), and you would have to make it EASILY accessible for everyone to get. The moment it becomes hard for people to get their ID, you start to disenfranchise people. and their are arguments against ID cards as they hurt the *insert group here* more than your average person. They wouldn't have the time, ability to, and possibly other stuff prevents them from ever getting an ID when they normally could and did legally vote in the past.
You cant charge people to pay for the IDs either,(would basically be another poll tax) so either the state or the Fed would have to eat the very expensive cost. some States, for one reason or another have a hard time even having enough polling places due to costs.(so they say anyways) If they cant get enough polling places to allow people to vote in a reasonable amount of time,(no one should have to wait an hour, let alone 3+ hours) how will they afford this expensive change? I already hate going to the DMV, imagine doing this and having to wait even longer.(in some states you have to make an appointment to go to the DMV, possibly the same here)
anyways, these are some of the possible issues. there may be other points i didnt address here. Perhaps you or others would be able to handle the above questions if it came to making voting IDs required. i hope anyways you can at least understand some of the issues above, even if you disagree with them or think they are minor.
If getting ID was so difficult in the US then you wouldn't have such a big social problem with alcohol. Probably the first thing every adult does in the US as soon as they turn 21 is get/update their ID to buy it. So arguing that a large number of Americans don't have any form of ID is just wrong, and there's nothing difficult in asking people to show it in order to vote.If only we had this national database that includes every legal citizens name and a number that is unique to them and can be used to identify them
So arguing that a large number of Americans don't have any form of ID is just wrong, and there's nothing difficult in asking people to show it in order to vote.
If getting ID was so difficult in the US then you wouldn't have such a big social problem with alcohol. Probably the first thing every adult does in the US as soon as they turn 21 is get/update their ID to buy it. So arguing that a large number of Americans don't have any form of ID is just wrong, and there's nothing difficult in asking people to show it in order to vote.No. you do not need to go and update your ID. All that matters is your age. The ID i have currently was given to me before I was 21 years old.(i am older than 21 now) I am able to go buy alcohol whenever i feel like it.(they may not even bother checking your id. they are suppose to, but sometimes don't.)
Do citizens in america really not have access to photo IDs? In canada you can't do shit unless you have Photo ID, and sometimes you need TWO pieces of ID.not really, no. Some places you will need photo id, but a lot of places dont. and your SS card and birth certificate are needed for some stuff, but not an ID. Sometimes just bringing mail in showing you live at an address is enough proof to say who you are.(speaking generally)
I have lived and worked in three countries, and have personally never met anyone who doesn't have any form of ID. Ever. When I've applied for jobs one of the first things they do is ask for ID. Whenever I have bought alcohol or gone into a club I have had to show ID. Same for when I have applied for a license or accreditation of any kind, opened a bank account, and so on.I had to prove I was who I said I was in three different ways to work at McDonalds in Ontario. Two photo ID's, SS number, birth certificate.
Dunno, maybe there are lots of people in America who have never traveled, never worked, never had to buy or rent a house, never had to learn to drive, never had to open a bank account, etc. Maybe they weren't even issued with a birth certificate when they were born. Who knows, maybe the Amish population of the USA is bigger than I thought?
I have lived and worked in three countries, and have personally never met anyone who doesn't have any form of ID. Ever. When I've applied for jobs one of the first things they do is ask for ID. Whenever I have bought alcohol or gone into a club I have had to show ID. Same for when I have applied for a license or accreditation of any kind, opened a bank account, and so on.lol. The ignorance in this post is great, especially with the dismissive attitude. on top of all that, you ignored what was said above. I would recommend spending some time with the poor,(in the US) or taking a sociology class of some sort. At least that way, you can understand what it is like to be poor.(not to mention various social standards)
Dunno, maybe there are lots of people in America who have never traveled, never worked, never had to buy or rent a house, never had to learn to drive, never had to open a bank account, etc. Maybe they weren't even issued with a birth certificate when they were born. Who knows, maybe the Amish population of the USA is bigger than I thought?
Dunno, maybe there are lots of people in America who have never traveled, never worked, never had to buy or rent a house, never had to learn to drive, never had to open a bank account, etc. Maybe they weren't even issued with a birth certificate when they were born. Who knows, maybe the Amish population of the USA is bigger than I thought?
QuoteDunno, maybe there are lots of people in America who have never traveled, never worked, never had to buy or rent a house, never had to learn to drive, never had to open a bank account, etc. Maybe they weren't even issued with a birth certificate when they were born. Who knows, maybe the Amish population of the USA is bigger than I thought?
Yes, that is how it is in America because unlike Europe we have a working class that makes up like 75% of the population and a government that doesn't give a shit about anything except profit. So there are third world conditions in a lot of the derp south and inner cities. But are you really refusing to believe there are this many people like that after all the zesty news coverage we've been getting?
Btw you don't need an ID for many of those things you listed.
you just have to remember that each state in many ways is their own country. Each state has it's own requirements as to what is acceptable to get a photo ID. Even when people are allowed to drive is different. I could drive at 14(you can actually do so before this and the cops wouldn't really care depending on what you are doing), others it is 16 before you can get a permit.QuoteDunno, maybe there are lots of people in America who have never traveled, never worked, never had to buy or rent a house, never had to learn to drive, never had to open a bank account, etc. Maybe they weren't even issued with a birth certificate when they were born. Who knows, maybe the Amish population of the USA is bigger than I thought?
Yes, that is how it is in America because unlike Europe we have a working class that makes up like 75% of the population and a government that doesn't give a shit about anything except profit. So there are third world conditions in a lot of the derp south and inner cities. But are you really refusing to believe there are this many people like that after all the zesty news coverage we've been getting?
Btw you don't need an ID for many of those things you listed.
Well I guess in america you don't, in Canada all of those require photo ID so most citizens have some form of ID on them by the time they get their first job or become eligible to vote.
uh well idk what world they live in, but if you are 18 and older there is literally no way you can function in the US without some form of ID, unless you are one of the severely impoverished and are not doing anything
Everyone is born with at least one piece of ID, it's called a birth certificate. Nobody is too poor or stupid to get ID, I don't know how you could possibly live in a modern society like the US without it. This video is pretty relevant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llDM-44Zb8w
uh well idk what world they live in, but if you are 18 and older there is literally no way you can function in the US without some form of ID, unless you are one of the severely impoverished and are not doing anythingyes you can. many do.
From the US Citizenship and Immigration Services website:
Every employer in the United States must verify that each newly hired employee can be legally employed in the United States. A U.S. citizen may show a variety of evidence to meet this requirement:
-U.S. passport;
-U.S. birth certificate along with a government-issued photo identification document.
https://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/proof-us-citizenship-and-identification-when-applying-job
They even give you a list of what documentation is required:
https://www.uscis.gov/i-9-central/acceptable-documents/list-documents/form-i-9-acceptable-documents
You have to show some form of photographic ID to get a job, there's no way round that. You cannot physically earn a living without ID it's just not possible, unless you're an illegal migrant who hangs around on curbs getting paid cash in hand for odd jobs here and there (in which case they shouldn't be voting anyway). This is getting silly now just admit you're wrong.
Would you rather we spend billions of dollars bombing them?It's worked so well already.
a little ticked off Trump is calling the President of Pakistan and trying to make peace... does he not realize it's a terrorist state and that there was a guy named Bin Laden who they were protecting?Question for you, do you support the Kurds?
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Once you get checkmate (electoral win) the game is over regardless of how many pieces you have on the board (popular vote). I have no idea why those liberals can't just take the L and wait for the next election to try and get socialism rolling. This special snowflake era wouldn't exist if we just had a war to start the draft or had mandatory military service to give people a chance to grow a backbone. What happened to my generationif you wanted a war, then you supported the wrong candidate
What happened to my generation
I mean, yeah, but we still have to wonder what happened and how can we avoid this next time..What happened to my generation
Shut the fuck up.
You are basically the right wing equivalent of a special snowflake when you say that.
Self-Loathing Millennials are JUST as bad.
Because liberals proclaim to be tolerant, loving, and open to a other beliefs and ideas, then are stunned and offended to learn there are in fact other beliefs and ideas.
Once you get checkmate (electoral win) the game is over regardless of how many pieces you have on the board (popular vote). I have no idea why those liberals can't just take the L and wait for the next election to try and get socialism rolling. This special snowflake era wouldn't exist if we just had a war to start the draft or had mandatory military service to give people a chance to grow a backbone. What happened to my generation
I mean, yeah, but we still have to wonder what happened and how can we avoid this next time..What happened to my generation
Shut the fuck up.
You are basically the right wing equivalent of a special snowflake when you say that.
Self-Loathing Millennials are JUST as bad.
I never thought weak b8 would go this far. Like almost everything I say is usually bullshit/bait and I thought you all would have figured that out by now. I think I've called for crusades, mass incarceration, making the southern border into a DMZ, reintroduction of German Secret Police to stop refugees and more. I guess I better start putting /s at the end of these posts from now on
Thanks you Weather Channeli can't stand breitbart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhdymoRTz6M&t=10s
Thanks you Weather Channeloh my, she looks a lot like my ex, jesus :-X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhdymoRTz6M&t=10s
Because liberals proclaim to be tolerant, loving, and open to a other beliefs and ideas, then are stunned and offended to learn there are in fact other beliefs and ideas.
No? Of course I can't speak for all liberals, but for me, the very notion of tolerance is accepting that there are other beliefs and ideas. The only 'but' is that everyone gives the same level of tolerance to eachother on an individual level.
Though of course strawmanning the entire liberal movement is much easier then actually debating it. ::)
Thanks you Weather Channeloh my, she looks a lot like my ex, jesus :-X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhdymoRTz6M&t=10s
But yea denying climate change is a real thing is like denying that the world isnt flat
Apoc what happened to our generation
Because liberals proclaim to be tolerant, loving, and open to a other beliefs and ideas, then are stunned and offended to learn there are in fact other beliefs and ideas.
No? Of course I can't speak for all liberals, but for me, the very notion of tolerance is accepting that there are other beliefs and ideas. The only 'but' is that everyone gives the same level of tolerance to eachother on an individual level.
Though of course strawmanning the entire liberal movement is much easier then actually debating it. ::)
William, to say that war is something we ought to have had so people wouldn't be so 'soft' is plain retarded. The suffering and traumas that come along with wars are apparantly a better alternative then a few people you find annoying? Ar you twelve or something?
and bannedBecause liberals proclaim to be tolerant, loving, and open to a other beliefs and ideas, then are stunned and offended to learn there are in fact other beliefs and ideas.
No? Of course I can't speak for all liberals, but for me, the very notion of tolerance is accepting that there are other beliefs and ideas. The only 'but' is that everyone gives the same level of tolerance to eachother on an individual level.
Though of course strawmanning the entire liberal movement is much easier then actually debating it. ::)
William, to say that war is something we ought to have had so people wouldn't be so 'soft' is plain retarded. The suffering and traumas that come along with wars are apparantly a better alternative then a few people you find annoying? Ar you twelve or something?
This guy is the biggest hypocrite I have ever met in my life. While debating over on the Alt right thread, which was removed because it hurt duurings feelings, he told me I was no longer free to express my beliefs on "their" forum. I was in the Off topic section, in a thread dedicated to my fellow centipedes, but my ideas were too much for his intolerance.
https://gyazo.com/6e074d1294cae773ce12a02a9906503c
He also muted me several times for calling him out or just discussing my view of the world. And it is a near certainty that I will again be muted for doing exactly that in this post. So do us all a favor duuring, act in accordance with your own message.
If you want some laughs go through the flat earth society forums. Some of the shit there is just as hilariously crazy as you'd expect it to be if not more. From all satellites being balloons to NASA faking every experiment ever confucted anywhere by even the smallest of independant research groups.
I got banned once for saying such reasonable things like thatLiberal tolerance only applies to liberal principles.
Careful
Won't be long before this thread gets updated lol
https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=28036.msg1475251#new
It's true.
I wouldn't exactly say this forum is very tolerant. But if that is what FSE and Duuring want, then so be it. I believe they cited the company/forum's reputation as why they locked that thread. So if they want to be seen as an intolerant forum, then so be it.
I like how the forums have pretty much died since then though. At least NA side, not sure how EU is doing.
aaaand my avatar got stolen again. Because mods love going into my profile and taking away my signatures and avatars without me violating the rules.
I legit just looked at this and was like, Pepper said this, why does your quote say Apoc. Nice memeIt's true.
I wouldn't exactly say this forum is very tolerant. But if that is what FSE and Duuring want, then so be it. I believe they cited the company/forum's reputation as why they locked that thread. So if they want to be seen as an intolerant forum, then so be it.
I like how the forums have pretty much died since then though. At least NA side, not sure how EU is doing.
aaaand my avatar got stolen again. Because mods love going into my profile and taking away my signatures and avatars without me violating the rules.
They can be as intolerant as they want (libs), but to see this guy preaching about love and tolerance while doing the opposite really highlights his own hypocrisy.
Freedom of speech is between you and the state, not you and other private citizens.
Ap0c, I fucking hate you troll. You're confusing the world with your disguises.
Which is fine within a group, but don't copy Admins, because impersonating one (and yes, this counts as impersonating) is forbidden. Next one who does will be, you guessed it, muted.
Stop trying to debate me on forum policy. It's a discussion you will never win, and you know it. You have plenty of room to seriously discuss politics here.
Guess we aren't allowed to debate here, because you'll just delete our posts if you start to lose.
If you have an issue, talk to your CR or duuring.
Now to being on topic.
How many electors do you think will be unfaithful for either candidate when they vote? I can imagine a handful at most due to how intense this election was.
one already said he was going to vote for john Kaisich instead of trumpIf you have an issue, talk to your CR or duuring.
Now to being on topic.
How many electors do you think will be unfaithful for either candidate when they vote? I can imagine a handful at most due to how intense this election was.
Tried that, Duuring doesn't respond on steam.
I doubt any electors will be unfaithful. With the electoral college under so much heat, the quickest way to end the electoral college is to stir up controversy like that.
I doubt any electors will be unfaithful. With the electoral college under so much heat, the quickest way to end the electoral college is to stir up controversy like that.
I come in peace. I didn’t bring artillery. But I’m pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, I’ll kill you all.
James Mattis the absolute legend.F- 35's BE GONEQuoteI come in peace. I didn’t bring artillery. But I’m pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, I’ll kill you all.
F35 is a joke. Extremely expensive, overhyped, and incapable. It's inferior at dogfighting to the point of losing in a mock dogfight with an F16, with the F16 having its external fuel tanks on. The Air Force must be on something crazy to suggest that it can replace the A10 on ground attack roles. At least the F22 can actually dogfight where as the F35 can do nothing except claim that it has stealth. Stealth is not going to protect when the plane cost the price of 5 Russian fighters such as the Su-35. 5 to 1 ratio in a dogfight is suicide. I don't even think ISIS has anything to really shoot down American planes as well so once again conventional planes win out. The bottom line is that as long as we're fighting sand people, which will probably be for the next decade, we're not going to need high end planes for that. Hopefully someone with a brain over at Washington can realize that.
But China is slowly but steadily creeping up and even though large parts of their military are outdated, they are not too far from being not only a threat by size, but also by technology. For example, China has just "recently" developed a new missile that could render any US fleet in the area defenceless.
I could be wrong, but if it went to the House and they didn't go for Trump, I'm pretty sure they'd have to pick someone actually in the bid for Presidency; as far as I know all Republicans dropped after the Primaries."In this event, the House of Representatives is limited to choosing from among the three candidates who received the most electoral votes for president." i don't think anyone outside of trump and clinton got an electoral vote.(off memory)
But that's the thing, he dropped out. As far as I know, you can not re-enter the bid this late in the year.It has nothing to do with re entering the bid, an elector can still put his name down and whoever it is, even if he wrote Vernon Supreme, the third most with highest number of electoral votes will be in contention (again technically yes they should at least have ran like Kasich did)
I wonder why an elector would choose kasich instead of Cruz. I think it would be easier to defend that pick since he did alot better in the primaries while kasich did kinda baddepends on their ideology or what they feel is right. They may feel he is more moderate, and even someone who is a democrat, may feel they are the lesser evil from their POV.
I have to admit that I find it somewhat amusing that there is so much confusion amongst Americans themselves on how their system works.Woah, so you have a perfect understanding of how the EU and Netherlands governments work? Otherwise, you can't say shit
I have to admit that I find it somewhat amusing that there is so much confusion amongst Americans themselves on how their system works.Woah, so you have a perfect understanding of how the EU and Netherlands governments work? Otherwise, you can't say shit
No, but like most of my countrymen, I have a pretty good understanding on how we get our executive government.
That's the weakest defense I've ever heard. Just drop this topic before you lock the thread for "going off topic"
So is there an Electoral Revolt" or not? Can they even bar Trump from being president?Will there be? doubt it. Will there be a protest vote? possibly. can they bar trump, in theory yes, but i doubt it will happen.
Trump got a electoral landslide so it would take quite the electoral revolt to stop him.
Do people here actually listen to Alex jones?yes. (why do I exist)
Damn, reports of a truck crashing through a Christmas market in Germany. Many fatalities etc. Apparently there are no roads nearby so it may be a deliberate Nice style attack.
Yeah but its US fault it happened though.Damn, reports of a truck crashing through a Christmas market in Germany. Many fatalities etc. Apparently there are no roads nearby so it may be a deliberate Nice style attack.
Sounds more like a post that should be on the EU politics thread. Hmm.
or its your fault for being retardedYeah but its US fault it happened though.Damn, reports of a truck crashing through a Christmas market in Germany. Many fatalities etc. Apparently there are no roads nearby so it may be a deliberate Nice style attack.
Sounds more like a post that should be on the EU politics thread. Hmm.
Damn, reports of a truck crashing through a Christmas market in Germany. Many fatalities etc. Apparently there are no roads nearby so it may be a deliberate Nice style attack.
Sounds more like a post that should be on the EU politics thread. Hmm.
Alex Jones gives a bad image for a lot of those who have legitimate support for trump. He's just a fat man who screams at a camera.
Damn, reports of a truck crashing through a Christmas market in Germany. Many fatalities etc. Apparently there are no roads nearby so it may be a deliberate Nice style attack.
Do people here actually listen to Alex jones?
Do people here actually listen to Alex jones?Are there people here who don't listen to alex jones!?
Lol. We will see, questioning some of the military guys he has appointed. Along with his pick for FDA chief being someone who thinks parents should give their children every drug until they find the one that works for them.
This will be interesting 8)
Today our King was crowned EmperorOnly after he's assassinated...
He shall soon ascend to godhood though.
A 19 year old from Washington state. Isn't a teenager a bit too young to fully understand the responsibility of a state elector for a national election? I wonder how that went for her to be a faithless elector.
tbh, i don't think that it's a big deal that some of these electors are quite young. A large population of the voter base are young so it would only make sense that these people are represented in some way.
uninformed is debateable. You have plenty of those among the older population. They have experience over the younger part of the population, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it is a positive all the time. it tends to be younger people who use the internet more for social uses. Odds are, a young person will be more knowledgeable about a new subject or would of learned about it before someone who is older. You would hope schooling would help kids learn something from the experience of the older generations.tbh, i don't think that it's a big deal that some of these electors are quite young. A large population of the voter base are young so it would only make sense that these people are represented in some way.
Well, the voting base is young but it doesn't mean they aren't uninformed or inexperienced in life overall.
People's political views change quite a bit from their uniformed years to their late adult years. And generally their opinions get more sophisticated. The whole point of a republic is to avoid overall mob-rule, having young and naive people with the power of an electoral college seat essentially undermines that.
The irony is that this statement is more naive than the young electors. You undervalue the youth population which you yourself are likely part of.tbh, i don't think that it's a big deal that some of these electors are quite young. A large population of the voter base are young so it would only make sense that these people are represented in some way.
Well, the voting base is young but it doesn't mean they aren't uninformed or inexperienced in life overall.
People's political views change quite a bit from their uniformed years to their late adult years. And generally their opinions get more sophisticated. The whole point of a republic is to avoid overall mob-rule, having young and naive people with the power of an electoral college seat essentially undermines that.
While I would say that it's probably true most youth vote with their feels, I wouldn't say having such a young elector should be disallowed.
The point is that he represents the wall street lobby, which is what Trump claimed to oppose. And I doubt Sachs would choose that guy if they didn't think he would represent them properly.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/sports/blogs/olympics-fourth-place-medal/u-women-hockey-team-scrimmaging-against-high-school-170704740--oly.html?client=safari (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/sports/blogs/olympics-fourth-place-medal/u-women-hockey-team-scrimmaging-against-high-school-170704740--oly.html?client=safari)
I know you guys talk about these civil issues, not saying they don't matter by any means such as with racism, protests, immigration; but at the other spectrum already Trump has talked to Ian reed and other big pharma figureheads who are actively considering staying or relocating to the US, if the tax rate is lower/ providing way more higher paying jobs here. Even Apple is considering it. So M&A activity in big pharma, tech, energy sectors will increase/ which is another reason why Wall Street is looking good.Karth...no...bad karth...you're treading in my domain. For one, more jobs isn't always a good thing. The question is if these jobs are good paying jobs. Take for instance walmart okay, walmart decides to invest in more stores across the country, sounds good right? More jobs, more cheap goods for people to buy, ect. The problem becomes much more evident when you realize that walmart pays shit wages and walmart as a competitor can run many businesses into the ground. Realistically, there will be job loss and the jobs gained will be worse. To make matters even more bad, it hurts local economies because 1. like i said, it runs other businesses into the ground and 2. money spent at walmart does not stay in the area besides the poverty wages given to the employees. More money leaves the area then goes into it. Walmart as a company is an economic drain. This is the reality of economics. Many other companies are just like this, apple is okay (i guess), big pharma is awful, tech & energy is sorta 50/50. One other thing, lower taxes does not necessarily mean higher wages unless the taxes lowered are income taxes, please don't assume this. When papa trump talks about helping the economy, be very skeptical. Who is he helping? The average joe or the CEO?
In regards to electoral college, it does come down to states rights and equal representation of the state. States are different, in economics, culture, laws, etc... and if the electoral college was dismantled and it went by popular vote/ then more states than the few blue would feel there representation didn't mean anything at all, and that a few states gain full power. That's why it exists in general, so I don't believe in a full dismantlement but definitely needs to be modified in terms of gerrymandering and other sketchy policies
This checks outI know you guys talk about these civil issues, not saying they don't matter by any means such as with racism, protests, immigration; but at the other spectrum already Trump has talked to Ian reed and other big pharma figureheads who are actively considering staying or relocating to the US, if the tax rate is lower/ providing way more higher paying jobs here. Even Apple is considering it. So M&A activity in big pharma, tech, energy sectors will increase/ which is another reason why Wall Street is looking good.Karth...no...bad karth...you're treading in my domain. For one, more jobs isn't always a good thing. The question is if these jobs are good paying jobs. Take for instance walmart okay, walmart decides to invest in more stores across the country, sounds good right? More jobs, more cheap goods for people to buy, ect. The problem becomes much more evident when you realize that walmart pays shit wages and walmart as a competitor can run many businesses into the ground. Realistically, there will be job loss and the jobs gained will be worse. To make matters even more bad, it hurts local economies because 1. like i said, it runs other businesses into the ground and 2. money spent at walmart does not stay in the area besides the poverty wages given to the employees. More money leaves the area then goes into it. Walmart as a company is an economic drain. This is the reality of economics. Many other companies are just like this, apple is okay (i guess), big pharma is awful, tech & energy is sorta 50/50. One other thing, lower taxes does not necessarily mean higher wages unless the taxes lowered are income taxes, please don't assume this. When papa trump talks about helping the economy, be very skeptical. Who is he helping? The average joe or the CEO?
In regards to electoral college, it does come down to states rights and equal representation of the state. States are different, in economics, culture, laws, etc... and if the electoral college was dismantled and it went by popular vote/ then more states than the few blue would feel there representation didn't mean anything at all, and that a few states gain full power. That's why it exists in general, so I don't believe in a full dismantlement but definitely needs to be modified in terms of gerrymandering and other sketchy policies
As for the electoral college, it should definitely either be by popular vote or some form of alternative voting system like the euros do. The largest voting block in this country is not democrats, its not republicans, it's people who identify as independents. Right now, these people only matter in states that may flip and are completely irrelevant in either solid blue or solid red states, in addition dems in red states are irrelevant as well as reps in blue states. Essentially there are a whole bunch of people who vote who make zero impact at all in the election. Want to make people feel like their vote means something? Abolish the electoral college because as it stands, independents in swing states matter too much and republicans/democrats in opposing states matter too little. Also gerrymandering has very little effect on the electoral college. Gerrymandering has to do with state/local representatives and senators, not so much the presidential election. I believe that there are districts which can be redrawn for college electors but this really only matters if they intend to be unfaithful electors which barely happens.
Trump's goldman sachs picks are quite funny tbh. Is there anyone who still believes he's an outsider to the political establishment at all now? Literally the exact same people that the Clintons asaociate with.
Good news guys. California is legalizing child prostitution
Trump's goldman sachs picks are quite funny tbh. Is there anyone who still believes he's an outsider to the political establishment at all now? Literally the exact same people that the Clintons asaociate with.
Funny?No.
I can see why someone would think they are a complete opposite of what he promised when he said he would "drain the swamp" but I would disagree. Yes, he has the richest cabinet ever assembled but these wealthy successful individuals and bankers running his economy are not working for the banks anymore they are working on behalf of the United States government and I believe they will bring their deal making skills and overall money making attitude back to the USA again and make our economy great again. The thing is with Trump is that he wants to succeed and be the best President ever and he will do all he can to make that happen. He picked the best cabinet choices he could possibly make, also what did you expect him to hire guys off craigs list for the economy positions? lol.
Surely he picked 'the best cabinet choices he could possibly make'. That's why he made a brain surgeon secretary for Housing and Urban Development. Everyone knows Ben Carson's experience regarding affordable housing and development.I laughed when i read this.
Surely he picked 'the best cabinet choices he could possibly make'. That's why he made a brain surgeon secretary for Housing and Urban Development. Everyone knows Ben Carson's experience regarding affordable housing and development.
Surely he picked 'the best cabinet choices he could possibly make'. That's why he made a brain surgeon secretary for Housing and Urban Development. Everyone knows Ben Carson's experience regarding affordable housing and development.Well I mean considering that Mr. Carson grew up in actual government housing in Detroit he at least knows what can be done to help and fix the system compared to most people who head the position and never actually grew up in government housing or had any idea what it was like..
Well I mean considering that Mr. Carson grew up in actual government housing in Detroit he at least knows what can be done to help and fix the system compared to most people who head the position and never actually grew up in government housing or had any idea what it was like..
I mean Obama's current head of DHS never had 0 experience with anything Homeland Security related and was a lawyer so...t
Surely he picked 'the best cabinet choices he could possibly make'. That's why he made a brain surgeon secretary for Housing and Urban Development. Everyone knows Ben Carson's experience regarding affordable housing and development.
I mean Obama's current head of DHS never had 0 experience with anything Homeland Security related and was a lawyer so...theres many appointees throughout many administrations who had 0 experience in the field they were chosen to lead. Regarding Ben Carson the fact he was also running for President also on top of being a smart ass mofo I think he will have no problem heading Housing and Urban Development...cant get much worse than the bozos running it now and the same can be said with the VA.
Ben Carson even said he wasn't qualified.Carson declined a lot of appointments so it's strange to me that he decided to end up taking this one of all of them. However, nobody has even been sworn in yet with zero actions taken so I'm just going to reserve my judgement
However, nobody has even been sworn in yet with zero actions taken so I'm just going to reserve my judgement
Well I mean considering that Mr. Carson grew up in actual government housing in Detroit he at least knows what can be done to help and fix the system compared to most people who head the position and never actually grew up in government housing or had any idea what it was like..
This argument makes no sense.... do you know what it takes to know about public housing? Zilch. Anyone can just go to one of these section 8 housing commissions and be eligible for a move-in packet through the housing programs. You don't have to understand the system to be a part of it when it comes to public housing. I mean, my job literally revolves around dealing with and understanding separate housing commissions. I actually have more experience on public housing then Ben Carson does LOL.
ALl these people getting salty over Trump nominating people with zero experience in the field turned secretary or director, but no one complains about the putting a General on Defense...
No, it doesn't. I get that it may seem like a logical step, but civilian control over our military is a cornerstone of liberal democracy. The people, trough their elected officials, dictate what our Armed Forces look like and what they do. The military does not and should never decide what its own purpose is. Why? Because the military is incredibly powerful, which we never fully realize because our militaries are so firmly under control of the civilian government.
Government and the militairy should be kept seperated as much as possible. You don't want politicians becoming soldiers due to their political positions - which makes perfect sense. You also do not want soldiers to become politicians due to their military position.
No, it doesn't. I get that it may seem like a logical step, but civilian control over our military is a cornerstone of liberal democracy. The people, trough their elected officials, dictate what our Armed Forces look like and what they do. The military does not and should never decide what its own purpose is. Why? Because the military is incredibly powerful, which we never fully realize because our militaries are so firmly under control of the civilian government.
Government and the militairy should be kept seperated as much as possible. You don't want politicians becoming soldiers due to their political positions - which makes perfect sense. You also do not want soldiers to become politicians due to their military position.
No, it doesn't. I get that it may seem like a logical step, but civilian control over our military is a cornerstone of liberal democracy. The people, trough their elected officials, dictate what our Armed Forces look like and what they do. The military does not and should never decide what its own purpose is. Why? Because the military is incredibly powerful, which we never fully realize because our militaries are so firmly under control of the civilian government.
Government and the militairy should be kept seperated as much as possible. You don't want politicians becoming soldiers due to their political positions - which makes perfect sense. You also do not want soldiers to become politicians due to their military position.
In a functioning liberal democracy the military really isn't that powerful-how many men would obey orders to oppose a democratic government in the Western world? How could you practically get unanimous agreement from all the senior figures in the chain of command to issue those orders?
In the US, can soldiers decide not to obey orders under certain conditions?Depends on the order given, you are allowed to disobey unlawful orders. For example if ordered to execute family members of terrorists, that's obviously unlawful and the people would disobey that. As long as you can prove in court an order is unlawful.
I know in the German Military, if an order is either a suicide mission or against the law (killing civilians and shit like that) they are allowed (or actually asked...) to not obey the order. Can you do that in the US Military?
The actual military decisions are made by high command. The decisions the secretary makes are purely political. To make proper political decisions and naviate the political landscape, it helps being a career politician. Generals (or former Generals), simply do not have the same experience it takes as civilian polticians do... Surely, A General's seat is a political one, but military politics is far different than national politics.
he'll never take a wife... BECAUSE HE'S MARRIED TO WARNo, it doesn't. I get that it may seem like a logical step, but civilian control over our military is a cornerstone of liberal democracy. The people, trough their elected officials, dictate what our Armed Forces look like and what they do. The military does not and should never decide what its own purpose is. Why? Because the military is incredibly powerful, which we never fully realize because our militaries are so firmly under control of the civilian government.
Government and the militairy should be kept seperated as much as possible. You don't want politicians becoming soldiers due to their political positions - which makes perfect sense. You also do not want soldiers to become politicians due to their military position.
zzzzzzzz yeah because civilian nitwits with no field experience or military experience whatsoever should dictate like the DoD? Nah I don't think so lol the whole "muh military is very strong paranoia military state" is some bs......and in this day and age we need some hard dick mofos like Mattis to lead the way and get it done the right way unlike what Obama's administration has been doing for the last 8 years. These Generals are the definition of Patriots and to think they would do anything not in the common interest of the USA and its citizens is also absurd and something some liberal who lives in SF would say. Its these same type of people who think cops have too much armament......
The actual military decisions are made by high command. The decisions the secretary makes are purely political. To make proper political decisions and naviate the political landscape, it helps being a career politician. Generals (or former Generals), simply do not have the same experience it takes as civilian polticians do... Surely, A General's seat is a political one, but military politics is far different than national politics.
Ah yes, a general would be clueless on who to (not) declare war on and how to allocate resources in war. Better give it to a pen pusher who doesn't even know what a gun is.
ITT: lefties exerting themselves to find something to criticize Trump for on every single move he makes think they know shit about the role of SecDef and that Trump's choice is unprecedented/rare/etc., apparently dont actually know fuck all as 15 of the last 21 SecDefs (stretching back 64 years of appointments by both parties) have been ex-military.
There's nothing wrong with someone having served in general. There's something wrong with appointing someone to a political position based solely on his militairy record.(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2FtbOuQ%2F517ab96d2e.jpg&hash=4f599578af26ba4db0740ad7b084c3d370946d56)
There's nothing wrong with someone having served in general. There's something wrong with appointing someone to a political position based solely on his militairy record.
If he has managed to become a General, I would reckon he is at least fairly knowledgeable on who's toes NOT to step on internationally and who's toes he can step on for the sake of national security
Damn, some of Trump's old tweets are even more bizarre than I'd thought. This one's my personal favourite:Spoiler(https://i.gyazo.com/cdbe72ae039bb5c424c252b022e4a9fa.png)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/258966137302315009[close]
The United States Secretary doesn't even have any real individual power it's just another advisior to the president, christ.but but ben carson grew up in a house
Sure it would probably been better to choose someone who have more experience with foregin politics/policies but I wouldn't say he's as bad as appointing Ben Carson as Secretary of Housing and Urban Development.
The United States Secretary doesn't even have any real individual power it's just another advisior to the president, christ.
Sure it would probably been better to choose someone who have more experience with foregin politics/policies but I wouldn't say he's as bad as appointing Ben Carson as Secretary of Housing and Urban Development.
And another terrorist attack....Don't think it's terrorist. Just an Alaskan who was honorably discharged from NG with psych issues. Probably persuaded by those Alaskan aliens
meh mass shootings, terrorist attacks. Their all the sameAnd another terrorist attack....Don't think it's terrorist. Just an Alaskan who was honorably discharged from NG with psych issues. Probably persuaded by those Alaskan aliens
Lol, we get issued the exact same shemaqsSpoilerDare I say it, isn't this the ISS sign? Is this the picture of the shooter? NOT AGAIN! :-\
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Anyways I do hope Trump understands the threat of the bear Vladimir Putin, it's pretty rare to have 4 intelligence heads this confident about Russian hackingThe 80's called; They want their foreign policy back.
Anyways I do hope Trump understands the threat of the bear Vladimir Putin, it's pretty rare to have 4 intelligence heads this confident about Russian hacking
Anyways I do hope Trump understands the threat of the bear Vladimir Putin, it's pretty rare to have 4 intelligence heads this confident about Russian hacking
This video shows why I personally will never ever vote again.ftfy
Anyways I do hope Trump understands the threat of the bear Vladimir Putin, it's pretty rare to have 4 intelligence heads this confident about Russian hackingThe 80's called; They want their foreign policy back.
Honestly, we're talking about potentially getting the two most powerful countries finally restoring diplomatic and economic ties and fight terrorism together
really makes you think...Anyways I do hope Trump understands the threat of the bear Vladimir Putin, it's pretty rare to have 4 intelligence heads this confident about Russian hackingThe 80's called; They want their foreign policy back.
Honestly, we're talking about potentially getting the two most powerful countries finally restoring diplomatic and economic ties and fight terrorism together
Who invaded Ukraine took Crimea unlawfully invaded Georgia not long ago supports Assads terror regime and the list goes on.
Russia have also tried to undermine Nato & the EU for years.
Do you guys remember when mitt Romney said Russia was our number 1 political foe and everyone laughed at him?and than Obama said to take his 80's foreign policy back but proceeded to embark on the most anti-russia foreign policy we've had in decades? Yeah, I 'member
Freedom of Speech in Russia, LGBT rights in Russia.Last time I checked they aren't being raped to death or having multiple terrorist attacks per daySpoiler(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiBKX9UVIAMBKFj.png)[close]
Do you guys remember when mitt Romney said Russia was our number 1 political foe and everyone laughed at him?and than Obama said to take his 80's foreign policy back but proceeded to embark on the most anti-russia foreign policy we've had in decades? Yeah, I 'memberSpoilerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y9oVC-mGW8[close]Freedom of Speech in Russia, LGBT rights in Russia.Last time I checked they aren't being raped to death or having multiple terrorist attacks per daySpoiler(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiBKX9UVIAMBKFj.png)[close]
God blessSpoiler(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/80/29/2c/80292c9ebc42f79ade13faab657dbbae.jpg)[close]
Correction: Multiple terrorist attacks per year, far more than before the migrant situation. I did not mean to say per day, which was a mistake on my part for which I take responsibility for.Do you guys remember when mitt Romney said Russia was our number 1 political foe and everyone laughed at him?and than Obama said to take his 80's foreign policy back but proceeded to embark on the most anti-russia foreign policy we've had in decades? Yeah, I 'memberSpoilerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y9oVC-mGW8[close]Freedom of Speech in Russia, LGBT rights in Russia.Last time I checked they aren't being raped to death or having multiple terrorist attacks per daySpoiler(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiBKX9UVIAMBKFj.png)[close]
God blessSpoiler(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/80/29/2c/80292c9ebc42f79ade13faab657dbbae.jpg)[close]
No westernized country have that lel. What I'm saying is why should any westernized country that values democracy and peace support Putins Russia?
Freedom of Speech in Russia, LGBT rights in Russia.Spoiler(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiBKX9UVIAMBKFj.png)[close]
Correction: Multiple terrorist attacks per year, far more than before the migrant situation. I did not mean to say per day, which was a mistake on my part for which I take responsibility for.Do you guys remember when mitt Romney said Russia was our number 1 political foe and everyone laughed at him?and than Obama said to take his 80's foreign policy back but proceeded to embark on the most anti-russia foreign policy we've had in decades? Yeah, I 'memberSpoilerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y9oVC-mGW8[close]Freedom of Speech in Russia, LGBT rights in Russia.Last time I checked they aren't being raped to death or having multiple terrorist attacks per daySpoiler(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiBKX9UVIAMBKFj.png)[close]
God blessSpoiler(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/80/29/2c/80292c9ebc42f79ade13faab657dbbae.jpg)[close]
No westernized country have that lel. What I'm saying is why should any westernized country that values democracy and peace support Putins Russia?
However, the amount of rapes has increased dramatically with most being attributed to the influx of said migrants, especially in Sweden.
Strange that approximately 4.4% of the population commits 77% of rapes, eh.
If we look at rapes, in 1975, 421 rapes were reported to the police; in 2014, it was 6,620. That is an increase of 1,472%.There is an estimated 250,000 to 350,000 Muslims in Sweden, from 1.8% to 4.4% of the Swedish population of 9 million(https://themuslimissue.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/valdtakt_2011_stor_nyb.png)
Staggering rape and assault rape statistics from Sweden from 1985-89 and 1997-2001. Rape committed by Swedish born rapists (blue) were 22.4%. Foreign rapists represent 77.6% of all figures divided into ‘normal’ representation (pink, red and orange) at 5,070; over representation (red) at 3,752 rape cases; unregistered migrants (orange) at 653 rape cases. Note that the blue bracket of Swedish rapists include foreign born persons with Swedish citizenship as the statistics are only counted on citizenship, and not nationality. This could of course mean that Swedish born Muslims could make up a bulk but we cannot be sure.[close]
Just when you thought it couldn't get any weirder...
https://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinger/these-reports-allege-trump-has-deep-ties-to-russia?utm_term=.ce6Ejd359#.gb7XP2Jy3Spoiler(https://i1.wp.com/order-order.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Screen-Shot-2017-01-10-at-23.45.43.png?resize=540%2C238&ssl=1)(https://i.gyazo.com/8531c39dd4b44cc93035a41808186eb1.png)[close]
Of all states on the European continent, Russia argueably has the biggest issues with radical islamists.
Russia good, komrade. Russia best kountry in world.o fug : DDDD
Of all states on the European continent, Russia argueably has the biggest issues with radical islamists.
Did you just deny Turkey is in Europe? I don't tolerate xenophobia. Reported.
@Furrnox (again), Duuring and Olafson: Ever lived, worked or studied in Russia?
Ben Shapiro is coming to my university next month. #BlessedWhere do you attend?
i go to Ferris StateBen Shapiro is coming to my university next month. #BlessedWhere do you attend?
I don't know how someone so educated could be so dumb. Graduated from Harvard Law...says that sesame street is left-wing propaganda. What the actual fuck?
I don't know how someone so educated could be so dumb. Graduated from Harvard Law...says that sesame street is left-wing propaganda. What the actual fuck?
I dont understand how every modern media medium works
Now going to order his book off amazon.
Good for you? Who cares? Why does this belong here?This is why your community is dead; The discrimination here is absolutely rampant and out of control, especially against a minority such as asexuals. I'm absolutely appalled that someone could say such a rude and defaming statement against a person just trying to be accepted.
Good for you? Who cares? Why does this belong here?im offended
Good for you? Who cares? Why does this belong here?
Could you please keep the offtopic spam out of here? Make a new thread if you want everyone to know your sexual orientation...sexual orientation is actually a hot topic here in the US so it is actually relevant
Could you please keep the offtopic spam out of here? Make a new thread if you want everyone to know your sexual orientation...
Boy, what a pick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF8wEH2ixak
Could you please keep the offtopic spam out of here? Make a new thread if you want everyone to know your sexual orientation...
Trump's trolling the EU hard lel
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-eu-juncker-idUSKBN1522C4
https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/821820204372099073Is the left media trying to stir the fires of violence? That and the CNN designated survivor video.
Kinda disappointed. It sounded like Trump actually wrote and rehearsed his speechIts fine, he included 'Make America Great Again' several times, so he was definitely prepared
At one point like the camarea started to shake a lot and then a bunch of military guys started to walk towards trump. I thought there was an explosion or something. But nope all the military guys just say awkwardly behind trump for a minuteyeah they kept walking back and forth it was weird
What is this women's march even about?obviously lack of women's rights in the US
What is this women's march even about? Like what rights do they want? The right to kill an unborned child?The election, BLM, abortion, LGBT rights, woman's rights, ect. You seem to forget that the president has said in the past that he would grab women by the pussy...
when you say women's rights, what does that mean? It is such a vague term. What rights do they want that they don't already have?What is this women's march even about? Like what rights do they want? The right to kill an unborned child?The election, BLM, abortion, LGBT rights, woman's rights, ect. You seem to forget that the president has said in the past that he would grab women by the pussy...
The rights legally are fine in the U.S., it's just that. especially in the South, LGBT rights are often violated, and MAYBE, just a little maybe a president now sits in the White House who has literally stated in his campaign he doesn't believe in such rights?
The rights legally are fine in the U.S., it's just that. especially in the South, LGBT rights are often violated, and MAYBE, just a little maybe a president now sits in the White House who has literally stated in his campaign he doesn't believe in such rights?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WMnoa8dLw8
The rights legally are fine in the U.S., it's just that. especially in the South, LGBT rights are often violated, and MAYBE, just a little maybe a president now sits in the White House who has literally stated in his campaign he doesn't believe in such rights?trump was actually the most pro LGBT republican that ran
The rights legally are fine in the U.S., it's just that. especially in the South, LGBT rights are often violated, and MAYBE, just a little maybe a president now sits in the White House who has literally stated in his campaign he doesn't believe in such rights?The rights per state are actually very different, some rights still dont even have hate crime laws against LGBT in place. Oh and again the South is not the most hate spewing part of the country anymore (which I think given the recent election sort of shows that), some places up North have had issues against LGBT populaces for more than 50 years. But there is still a lot that needs to be done for each state to be on the same page in regards to rights for LGBT folk. http://www.lgbtmap.org/equality-maps/hate_crime_laws
when you say women's rights, what does that mean? It is such a vague term. What rights do they want that they don't already have?What is this women's march even about? Like what rights do they want? The right to kill an unborned child?The election, BLM, abortion, LGBT rights, woman's rights, ect. You seem to forget that the president has said in the past that he would grab women by the pussy...
Also Madonna wants to blow up the White House. You go girl!
They want to have more rights than men, so that they have the same rights. Ya know, if a male and female apply for the same job, the female is chosen. Thats what they want. BECAUSE THERE ARE TO FEW FEMALES IN HIGH RANKING JOBS! ITS THE FAULT OF THE LAW, NOT THE FAULT OF THE WOMEN! Makes sense, right?When i say women's rights, i basically mean 'protecting and enforcing' women's rights. Again...
You seem to forget that the president has said in the past that he would grab women by the pussy...Fucking hell, you think a man like that cares about protecting women's rights?
One positive thing I am hoping for is an increased Defense budget. But that is just selfish =D
Well, given the Netherlands don't even have tanks there's literally no point in having an army at all. Might as well spend the money on something else.
Well, given the Netherlands don't even have tanks there's literally no point in having an army at all. Might as well spend the money on something else.
That's really bullshit. Just because you have no tanks means that your army has no right to excist?
Surely, you can't operate on every spectrum of violence, but only not on the heaviest. The Dutch army has APCs, so the spectrum right below steel-on-steel can be fought in.
And, as recently found out, the Dutch DO want to partake in the complete spectrum, so one German tank Battalion is incorporated in the 42 Mechanised, and one Dutch tank batallion has been formed a few months ago, with the possibility to expand ones there is budget for it.
"no one has more respect for women than me."-Donald Trumpwhen you say women's rights, what does that mean? It is such a vague term. What rights do they want that they don't already have?What is this women's march even about? Like what rights do they want? The right to kill an unborned child?The election, BLM, abortion, LGBT rights, woman's rights, ect. You seem to forget that the president has said in the past that he would grab women by the pussy...
Also Madonna wants to blow up the White House. You go girl!They want to have more rights than men, so that they have the same rights. Ya know, if a male and female apply for the same job, the female is chosen. Thats what they want. BECAUSE THERE ARE TO FEW FEMALES IN HIGH RANKING JOBS! ITS THE FAULT OF THE LAW, NOT THE FAULT OF THE WOMEN! Makes sense, right?When i say women's rights, i basically mean 'protecting and enforcing' women's rights. Again...QuoteYou seem to forget that the president has said in the past that he would grab women by the pussy...Fucking hell, you think a man like that cares about protecting women's rights?
I'm not saying the Dutch military has no right to exist, I'm saying it's pointless if you don't have tanks. I was taught that without MBTs you can't fight a modern war, and if you can't do that then you might as well do
Lol, so you borrow off the Germans. Now you can't go to war without the consent of Berlin.
you can't perform operations at the highest spectrum of violence (which in conventional land warfare is steel-on-steel tank fighting).
There are many different aspects to modern warfighting than that. For example, fighting in urban(ised) areas. The best way to go about that is with light/mechanised infantry instead of armoured tanks. And since urban warfare is nowadays by far the most common in modern fighting and much less fighting in rural areas, it is not a requirement for an army to have tanks AS LONG as it can make up for that in indirect fire support, such as Howitsers, heavy mortars, CAS, which the Dutch all have to a degree considerable enough to provide for its own troops.
Without tanks you can't fight a modern war? To some degree, yes. But for the Dutch, it is unthinkable to be deployed without allies, most notably Germany primarily and the UK. That doesn't mean the Dutch army means nothing in capability when they don't have tanks.
I see Duuring has brought out his crystal ball again, please predict moar
when you say women's rights, what does that mean? It is such a vague term. What rights do they want that they don't already have?What is this women's march even about? Like what rights do they want? The right to kill an unborned child?The election, BLM, abortion, LGBT rights, woman's rights, ect. You seem to forget that the president has said in the past that he would grab women by the pussy...
Also Madonna wants to blow up the White House. You go girl!They want to have more rights than men, so that they have the same rights. Ya know, if a male and female apply for the same job, the female is chosen. Thats what they want. BECAUSE THERE ARE TO FEW FEMALES IN HIGH RANKING JOBS! ITS THE FAULT OF THE LAW, NOT THE FAULT OF THE WOMEN! Makes sense, right?When i say woman's rights, i basically mean 'protecting and enforcing' women's rights. Again...
F*ck TPP...
The rundown of the meeting today:Business leaders meeting, 23rd Jan(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.512tech.com%2Frf%2Fimage_medium%2FPub%2Fp8%2F512Tech%2F2017%2F01%2F23%2FImages%2FDellTrump.jpg&hash=798f308eeced4643627a541f070207c5eea38312)[close]
Trump stated that he plans on bringing plants and production back to the US. He plans on reducing regulation in terms of construction of plants by around 75% due to it "being impossible to do anything" as it is now, and that he also plans on cutting the current tax of plants and factories (currently around 35-38%) to the best of his ability, making it "practically nothing" if possible. He's going to make it "so easy" for businesses to build in the US, offering complete government support during construction.
In the event that a plant is closed in the US in order for it to move overseas causing great job loss, that product will receive great border tax as a result. I strongly believe all foreign products are going to see a hyped up tax however (Trump used Japan as an example of the current unfair state of trading, citing that he sees Japan bringing cars into the US on "the biggest boats I've ever seen" while it being "practically impossible" for any US factories to do the same).
He's also claimed he's cutting tax for the middle class which is cool I guess.
That being said, it's not unlikely if we'll see our tank units re-instated. Won't be surprised if they announce Tank Officer School at the KMA before the end of the year, Riddlez. Of course,
when you say women's rights, what does that mean? It is such a vague term. What rights do they want that they don't already have?What is this women's march even about? Like what rights do they want? The right to kill an unborned child?The election, BLM, abortion, LGBT rights, woman's rights, ect. You seem to forget that the president has said in the past that he would grab women by the pussy...
Also Madonna wants to blow up the White House. You go girl!They want to have more rights than men, so that they have the same rights. Ya know, if a male and female apply for the same job, the female is chosen. Thats what they want. BECAUSE THERE ARE TO FEW FEMALES IN HIGH RANKING JOBS! ITS THE FAULT OF THE LAW, NOT THE FAULT OF THE WOMEN! Makes sense, right?When i say woman's rights, i basically mean 'protecting and enforcing' women's rights. Again...
Women have full rights in the United States? Trump has not done anything to undermine their rights as a President. If they are so troubled with woman's rights, why don't they just go to the Middle East where women are literally treated as second class citizens and treated poorly by the Muslims.
I saw that video. It's funny when you see women and gays supporting Islam yet women and gays are the one tortured.when you say women's rights, what does that mean? It is such a vague term. What rights do they want that they don't already have?What is this women's march even about? Like what rights do they want? The right to kill an unborned child?The election, BLM, abortion, LGBT rights, woman's rights, ect. You seem to forget that the president has said in the past that he would grab women by the pussy...
Also Madonna wants to blow up the White House. You go girl!They want to have more rights than men, so that they have the same rights. Ya know, if a male and female apply for the same job, the female is chosen. Thats what they want. BECAUSE THERE ARE TO FEW FEMALES IN HIGH RANKING JOBS! ITS THE FAULT OF THE LAW, NOT THE FAULT OF THE WOMEN! Makes sense, right?When i say woman's rights, i basically mean 'protecting and enforcing' women's rights. Again...
Women have full rights in the United States? Trump has not done anything to undermine their rights as a President. If they are so troubled with woman's rights, why don't they just go to the Middle East where women are literally treated as second class citizens and treated poorly by the Muslims.
This march is purely about American Merkel not being elected
http://www.infowars.com/german-feminazis-chant-allahu-akbar-at-islamist-backed-womens-march/
Yeah... women's right... ok, sure
If you actually like Richard Spencer, you need to reevaluate your lifehe gets bitches
Richard spencer should honestly be deported to Canadafalse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELD2AwFN9Nc
So what the fuck is Trump doing at the moment?
So what the fuck is Trump doing at the moment?A shit ton so far lol
So what the fuck is Trump doing at the moment?
Probably enacting executive orders, what most presidents do when they take office.
I hope Trump really does send the feds into Chicago so I can watch some gib me dats get shot on Live Leak
A corrupt mayor and an overwhelmed police force aren't going to be better off with intervention from the feds?
Maybe we should follow the wise Dutch example and just mock the criminals to death
Maybe we should follow the wise Dutch example and just mock the criminals to deathhttp://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Netherlands/United-States/Crime
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm5K0s6W8AEH22Y.jpg)I hope Trump really does send the feds into Chicago so I can watch some gib me dats get shot on Live Leak
As if that's going to solve anything.
Maybe we should follow the wise Dutch example and just mock the criminals to deathhttp://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Netherlands/United-States/Crime
If it ain't broke?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm5K0s6W8AEH22Y.jpg)I hope Trump really does send the feds into Chicago so I can watch some gib me dats get shot on Live Leak
As if that's going to solve anything.
I mean, I get your point. The only reason anyone ever went to the moon, or sent satellites into space, was because the Russians/NATO could have built a military installation there. But this is the wrong idea. We should thrive for scientific advancement, purely for the sake of advancement and not for the sake of being first to build the most powerful weapon.
Is that a serious proposal Olaf?
Reducing the US defense budget by a drastic amount would shock the international security community.
Err yea, I know about the wars, my assistant principal was KIA during the surge (he was a NG reservist). The NG and Reserve troops actually going through the same basic and advanced training (depending on MOS) as active duty soldiers (albeit not as many trainings as they do after they get their stripes). On deployments the paygrade is also the same as active duty, they dont differ from paygrade. During the Iraq invasion, supporting all those active duty components required FOBs to be built continuously and maintained (building defenses, having soldiers occupy them, etc..) to maintain a presence around the country, along with a bunch of specialized logistical MOS's. So you had over 140,000-150,000 troops in just Iraq at that time, along with ongoing operations in Afghanistan, WHILE maintaining numerous bases around the globe (which require active duty presence, or at that instance, reservists would be placed in their stead, in hotspots like Korea, Japan, Germany, Bosnia, Kuwait, etc..)Alright, fair enough. Given you'd know more on the topic then me I'll retract my earlier statement. I was thinking solely in terms of a military victory which, would require less ground troops and rely more on Air and Sea. But I didn't really think about any long term occupations so fair enough.
Main point is: in today's modern age, even to invade and occupy a country like Iraq requires hundreds of thousands of troops, if the invasion wasnt a 'coalition', then the US would have had to double its numbers, again just for a country like Iraq. So think of an Iran or North Korea, that would definitely require way more, and thats how they are justifying the 600,000 active duty or so and wanting to expand that.
The Army is more of a reserve needed when doing large scale invasions or when defending the country on land (which will practically never happen anyway).
Just to come back on the military-industrial complex providing for the country: this is true, though it's actually way less profitable for a country than you'd think. Say, a billion spent op military industry provides way less profit for the country (both in goods, services and provision of jobs), than that same billion would in public sectors as healthcare, education or construction.
What's the main Dutch centre-right party? I assume it's not Wilders.
Oh crap, the left is staging a big coverup! You got a Obama, Hillary, Green Lady and News man working together to coverup rigging the election! That image actually looks like something you'd find posted by RebelMedia.Spoiler(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.whatreallyhappened.com%2FIMAGES%2Fdonotinvestigateriggedelection.jpg&hash=dcf27839d01edfeb5267a790b3537157ec188792)
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Oh crap, the left is staging a big coverup! You got a Obama, Hillary, Green Lady and News man working together to coverup rigging the election! That image actually looks like something you'd find posted by RebelMedia.Spoiler(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.whatreallyhappened.com%2FIMAGES%2Fdonotinvestigateriggedelection.jpg&hash=dcf27839d01edfeb5267a790b3537157ec188792)
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I mean, I think his targeting of the key battleground states by saying he would bring jobs back their along with the general mistrust people had in Hillary is what won him the election - But yea, it was us "liberals" poking fun at bullshit images that brought Trump to victory. Well done RickPerry.Oh crap, the left is staging a big coverup! You got a Obama, Hillary, Green Lady and News man working together to coverup rigging the election! That image actually looks like something you'd find posted by RebelMedia.Spoiler(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.whatreallyhappened.com%2FIMAGES%2Fdonotinvestigateriggedelection.jpg&hash=dcf27839d01edfeb5267a790b3537157ec188792)
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Stuck up liberals speaking like this is exactly why Trump won...
Kevin O'Leary 2019isn't that the guy who told veterans not to be proud or some shit
Stuck up "liberal" who laughed at anyone suggesting Trump will win now trying to lecture on how Trump won (live on forum)I can tell you for certain, that I never claimed he wouldn't become POTUS. Seeing most people (myself included) give zero fucks about PC shit, I really don't think that was a driving force in the election. But then again, anyone who dislikes Trump is just a "SJW Libtard Communist Cuck" amirite?
Yep, and hes currently ahead in the leadership race. He is basically running off of his similarities to Trump. Hopefully the NDP can pull out a stellar candidate to face Trudeau - I have my doubts on that though.Kevin O'Leary 2019isn't that the guy who told veterans not to be proud or some shit
Kevin O'Leary 2019isn't that the guy who told veterans not to be proud or some shit
Kevin O'Leary isn't a good fit with the Canadian Conservatives but he's probably best placed to defeat Justin Trudeau. Not my preferred choice of leader but getting rid of Trudeau is quite vital as he's a moron. I wanted it to have been Jason Kenney but he's gone back to Alberta to try and be the next Premier (which is fair enough as Notley is awful).I'd fucking kill for Danny Williams to comeback and kick the liberals out of NL. I bet if Harper came back he could probably win. But you're right in saying that O'Leary has the best shot.
Kevin O'Leary isn't a good fit with the Canadian Conservatives but he's probably best placed to defeat Justin Trudeau. Not my preferred choice of leader but getting rid of Trudeau is quite vital as he's a moron. I wanted it to have been Jason Kenney but he's gone back to Alberta to try and be the next Premier (which is fair enough as Notley is awful).I'd fucking kill for Danny Williams to comeback and kick the liberals out of NL. I bet if Harper came back he could probably win. But you're right in saying that O'Leary has the best shot.
I think he had the highest approval rating for any federal or provincial leader in the country, ever. Could be wrong on that. He basically made sure we kept our oil and prevented us from going broke for the time being. However what followed him was a shitstorm and so now the Liberal government has to kill us with taxes to pay for what his successors did. We will pretty much be dirt poor until 2041 when Quebec fucks off from our hydro.Kevin O'Leary isn't a good fit with the Canadian Conservatives but he's probably best placed to defeat Justin Trudeau. Not my preferred choice of leader but getting rid of Trudeau is quite vital as he's a moron. I wanted it to have been Jason Kenney but he's gone back to Alberta to try and be the next Premier (which is fair enough as Notley is awful).I'd fucking kill for Danny Williams to comeback and kick the liberals out of NL. I bet if Harper came back he could probably win. But you're right in saying that O'Leary has the best shot.
Not a fan of Williams in terms of his relationship with the rest of Canada, I think he took things too far. Maybe he was good domestically I don't know I'm not from Atlantic Canada.
Aye we might finally be able to invade Mexicoor we can just wall it off and act like they don't exist
but... muh bloodlustAye we might finally be able to invade Mexicoor we can just wall it off and act like they don't exist
Aye we might finally be able to invade Mexico
I hope leftists keep having these violent riots. it just turns more people away from their cause
I hope leftists keep having these violent riots. it just turns more people away from their cause
Nothing wrong with a black bloc every once in a while to keep the bougies and the fascists scared.except they look like the facists for shutting down free speech
Nothing wrong with a black bloc every once in a while to keep the bougies and the fascists scared.
Nothing wrong with a black bloc every once in a while to keep the bougies and the fascists scared.
yeah except fascists advocate genocide which imo isn't a legitimate opinion worth hearing.Nothing wrong with a black bloc every once in a while to keep the bougies and the fascists scared.except they look like the facists for shutting down free speech
Oh, i'll just forget about all those south american countries who were genocided because of american business interests. Never happened...Nothing wrong with a black bloc every once in a while to keep the bougies and the fascists scared.I think the Black Bloc has harmed the Proletariat more than the "bougies"
No one who participates in a black bloc is a liberal. These aren't the folks who voted for Hillary.Nothing wrong with a black bloc every once in a while to keep the bougies and the fascists scared.Nothing like showing the true nature of American liberals
No one who participates in a black bloc is a liberal. These aren't the folks who voted for Hillary.
Literally no idea what you are talking about. No one 'funds' a black bloc, are you stupid? If they need funds, it's from within the bloc.No one who participates in a black bloc is a liberal. These aren't the folks who voted for Hillary.They work towards the same goal though. Funded by the same guy, too.
Literally no idea what you are talking about. No one 'funds' a black bloc, are you stupid? If they need funds, it's from within the bloc.No one who participates in a black bloc is a liberal. These aren't the folks who voted for Hillary.They work towards the same goal though. Funded by the same guy, too.
No one 'funds' a black bloc
"In all, Mr. Soros gave at least $33 million in one year to support already-established groups that emboldened the grass-roots, on-the-ground activists in Ferguson, according to the most recent tax filings of his nonprofit Open Society Foundations."
Buses of activists from the Samuel Dewitt Proctor Conference in Chicago; from the Drug Policy Alliance, Make the Road New York and Equal Justice USA from New York; from Sojourners, the Advancement Project and Center for Community Change in Washington; and networks from the Gamaliel Foundation — all funded in part by Mr. Soros — descended on Ferguson starting in August and later organized protests and gatherings in the city until late last month.
Your stupidity is amazing dude. How you can just spout so much shit about things you know nothing about. A black bloc is not just a simple protest, it's a specific kind of protest, typically used by socialists, anarchists, and ANTIFA. The shit at ferguson was NOT a black bloc, holy fuck dude. Black blocs are self-funded... why would any business in their right mind fund a black bloc? Something that actively tries to dismantle businesses and capitalism in general.Literally no idea what you are talking about. No one 'funds' a black bloc, are you stupid? If they need funds, it's from within the bloc.No one who participates in a black bloc is a liberal. These aren't the folks who voted for Hillary.They work towards the same goal though. Funded by the same guy, too.
Doubt that.No one 'funds' a black bloc
Yeah, let's not count someone paying for signs, transport and literally a pay cheque as "funding".Quote from: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/14/george-soros-funds-ferguson-protests-hopes-to-spur/"In all, Mr. Soros gave at least $33 million in one year to support already-established groups that emboldened the grass-roots, on-the-ground activists in Ferguson, according to the most recent tax filings of his nonprofit Open Society Foundations."QuoteBuses of activists from the Samuel Dewitt Proctor Conference in Chicago; from the Drug Policy Alliance, Make the Road New York and Equal Justice USA from New York; from Sojourners, the Advancement Project and Center for Community Change in Washington; and networks from the Gamaliel Foundation — all funded in part by Mr. Soros — descended on Ferguson starting in August and later organized protests and gatherings in the city until late last month.
And since you cited CNN in a reply to Apoc:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/23/soros-dc-march-partners/
:) :)
Black blocs are self-funded... why would any business in their right mind fund a black bloc?
why would any business in their right mind fund a black bloc? Something that actively tries to dismantle businesses and capitalism in general.
Yes, Soros started the war. Russia's military invasion had nothing to do with it.
Yes, he is responsible for keeping Ukraine in a crisis state. Russia's military invasion has nothing to do with it.
Ukraine has been working at improving her institutions, economy and democracy ever since independence and the role the European Union has played in this, however minor, is something to be proud on
There is no grand regime-change-conspiracy, as much as you'd love there to be.
Like anyone takes you seriously anyway, representing the "black block" and sprouting shit about how they're supposedly intimidating. The rioters are fucking retards who make spelling mistakes in their signs amongst attacking their own ("let's smash fascism by burning this Muslim's limo" lmao). They're are even mocked by Brits.I can guarentee you that George Soros is not funding black blocs. This is from (fucking kill me) breitbart,
Once again you take the high ground with "at least X is actually X". "At least", lol, fuck off back to debate class.Black blocs are self-funded... why would any business in their right mind fund a black bloc?
Because Soros makes power grabs through creating chaos in a nation and generally destabilising the target government. His foundation fund isn't a business; it doesn't make monetary profits you retard. Did you even read into his actions in Ukraine, or do you not read articles that aren't written by CNN? :)why would any business in their right mind fund a black bloc? Something that actively tries to dismantle businesses and capitalism in general.
Destroying a university is dismantling business and capitalism? The fact that you've chosen to represent this gang of utter chromosomes and even FEEL PROUD about their actions is hilarious.
many people not intimately associated with the radical left have the false belief that all protesters are such events as merely paid flunkies funded by a leftist financier like George Soros.Even breitbart isn't that stupid. I applaud you though for the effort.
It’s important that Americans not be lulled into a false sense of security by such an oversimplification. While it’s been proven that funders like Soros and the Democrat party have paid protest organizers and some protesters, groups like the violent Black Bloc typically aren’t motivated by money, but instead come to protests because of their anti-American ideology, base criminal desires and thill seeking.
The rioters are fucking retards who make spelling mistakes in their signs amongst attacking their own ("let's smash fascism by burning this Muslim's limo" lmao). They're are even mocked by Brits.I know it's not technically a spelling mistake but still...It's ironic.
Thanks GlukYou're welcome.
The last Presidential election in Ukraine, before the coup, was won by the pro-Russian candidate. As you can see from how the results looked, Ukraine is a very divided country:Spoiler(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/26/%D0%94%D1%80%D1%83%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%82%D1%83%D1%80_2010_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%BE%D0%BA%D1%80%D1%83%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%85-en.png/1280px-%D0%94%D1%80%D1%83%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%82%D1%83%D1%80_2010_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%BE%D0%BA%D1%80%D1%83%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%85-en.png)[close]
The pro-EU candidate lost. That's democracy. Now I dunno where these 'opinion polls show Ukrainians love the EU' come from but it's not borne out by those election results. And given there's a war in Eastern Ukraine I'd like to know how those people were polled.
Didn't Trump choose a Jew affiliated with Goldman-Sachs and who used to work for Soros as fucking Treasury Secretary?ITS A PLANT
inb4 5th dimensional checkers
#KilltheJews?Spoiler(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi0.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Fnewsfeed%2F001%2F213%2F947%2F222.png&hash=e1bc0998881719eb685d0a4b9c4f974470b11b8a)[close]
Still nothing on why Trump gave an international jewish banker control over hard working white tax dollars
You people are the dumbest folks i've ever had the displeasure of meeting.How much did George Soros pay you to say that? huehuehuehuehuehuehueMAGAhuehuehue
You people are the dumbest folks i've ever had the displeasure of meeting.How much did George Soros pay you to say that? huehuehuehuehuehuehueMAGAhuehuehue
Oh, right. I forgot I like Trudeau. Ye got me. Ye got me reaaaaal good.You people are the dumbest folks i've ever had the displeasure of meeting.How much did George Soros pay you to say that? huehuehuehuehuehuehueMAGAhuehuehue
A fucking leaf ;D ;D ;D
Because it's 2 0 1 6
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They work towards the same goal though. Funded by the same guy, too.
Also I'm not an arab lel
None of your business. Speaking of which, that check came in the mail today.You people are the dumbest folks i've ever had the displeasure of meeting.How much did George Soros pay you to say that? huehuehuehuehuehuehueMAGAhuehuehue
Trump is working with jews.No truth allowed on this forums you vile anti semite
Keep crying faggot.